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SWING MUSIC PLAYS | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
I've always been captivated by the sound of swing jazz. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
The fact that you can't hear it without wanting to tap your feet | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
or that glorious, brassy big-band sound that is so evocative | 0:00:22 | 0:00:27 | |
of its era and a moment of dazzling musical freedom. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
Now, in the 21st-century, London is swinging again | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
and a whole new generation of dancers are rediscovering | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
the joys of the jive and the jitterbug. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
We might think of swing as White music for White audiences but | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
beneath that story lies a remarkable tale of race politics in society. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
In the late 1920s, a handful of trailblazing West Indian musicians | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
arrived on these shores and they helped shape the sound of the era. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
I thought it was high time we looked at this neglected | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
chapter in musical history | 0:01:06 | 0:01:07 | |
and rediscovered the Black musicians who really made Britain swing. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
The music that came to define an era in Britain had its roots in Harlem. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
In the 1920s, African-American artists began experimenting | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
with musical ideas and created their own radical new sound. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:38 | |
I think we're looking at a truly revolutionary, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
incendiary moment in human music history and from the earliest | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
examples of freed slaves playing music in | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
Congo Square in New Orleans and the blues and those traditions, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
those things coming together, there was, if you like, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
just an infectious mix of music that was destined to take over the world. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
Every kind of music has its own groove, and swing is that | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
particular groove that is within jazz that makes you want to tap your feet. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
As Duke Ellington famously said, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
"It don't mean a thing if you ain't got that swing." | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
For years, the British had swayed politely to the sound of light music | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
at afternoon tea dances. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
But these were swept aside by the sheer energy of Black American jazz | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
which not only inspired exciting new dances | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
but helped diminish painful memories of the First World War. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
# All aboard | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
# Dead of night express... # | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
British audiences became hungry to experience the sort of music | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
and musicians that were thrilling Harlem, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
and it is this vibrant, transformational moment in history | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
that Stephen Poliakoff explores in his new drama series for BBC Two. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
# ..Wind blows round the steeple | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
# Empty world and... # | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
Dancing On The Edge follows a fictional Black swing band | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
as they dazzle London's high society. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
# ..The midnight train a-whistling... # | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
The Victorian, Edwardian world that had led to this terrible slaughter | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
and tragedy was being, you know, repudiated in all sorts of ways. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
The new was worshipped and this was part of the new - | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
this excitement and rawness and sexual energy was part of it. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
This fascinating moment in time when jazz music became fashionable amongst | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
certain members of the aristocracy, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
the ruling elite and the Royal Family, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
and both visiting American Black jazz musicians and home-grown - | 0:03:53 | 0:03:59 | |
all the people that made their careers here. And I thought that was | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
an extraordinary insight into that time and a different angle on what, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
obviously, is a period famous for racism, anti-Semitism | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
and all sorts of darkness. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
Do you think the fact that these were Black musicians appearing | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
for the first time, was that, how much of that was part of it? | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Did they bring their own inflection to the music or was it just | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
the fact that for that audience to behold an all-Black band | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
was something, as you say, such an exotic spectacle in itself? | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Well, it was unusual at that time in London hotels. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
# My night-time dreams and desire... # | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
The '30s, because of the terrible tragedy of the First World War, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
embraced the new in all sorts of ways. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
# Burning cinders in the midnight sky | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
# My heart is a-pounding and a-pumping and a-thumping... # | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
It's very sexy, that music. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:50 | |
I think we forget, we don't tend to think of that music that way. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
That does bring us full circle. It is very sexy. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
That is precisely why a lot of these people were drawn to it at the time. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
What a gorgeous little singer. I do love this jazz sound, don't you? | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
It was a very vibrant time in the music scene in London. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:13 | |
Dancing On The Edge draws its inspiration from the real | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
Black musicians and entertainers who arrived in London in the 1930s. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
At that time, the sight of Black faces on Britain's streets | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
was still something of a rarity. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
But two men in particular, both from the West Indies although from | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
very different backgrounds, would manage to break through | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
the boundaries and have a profound impact on London's musical culture. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
Leslie Thompson, an innovative musician and celebrated trumpeter | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
and Ken Snakehips Johnson, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
a brilliant dancer and charismatic bandleader. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
When Ken and Leslie joined forces to create Britain's first Black | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
swing band, it was the beginning of both musical and social change. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
The possibilities of that were cut short | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
when their story ended in tragedy at the height of the Blitz but, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
while it lasted, their phenomenal success was an inspiration to | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
others and the birth of a new era where Black musicians | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
could take centre stage for the first time. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
This is the untold tale of two extraordinary men | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
and the legacy of the music he helped create. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
It was like being in heaven, the music like that. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
It lifted one, you know, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
all the people, the dancers, the musicians. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
It lifted you completely, you know. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
You left a club or whatever feeling a different person, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
feeling satisfied and very happy with life, you know. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
It was a renaissance of Black music at that period at that time. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
It was the birth of West Indian Black British music. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:03 | |
Musicians today still find something enticing in the Black British music | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
of the 1930s and are drawn to its infectious swing. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
Musically, how radical was their stuff? | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
Was it coming... Was there a direct through-line from American swing | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
and American jazz, or were they creating their own British sound | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
that also had that Caribbean flavour to it? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
When you hear the ways in which they phrase, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
if you hear at the phrasing within the trumpets, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
there's very subtle, almost calypso-like resonances happening. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
# Dah, bah, bah, doo-dah-bah, bah-doo, bah-dah. # | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
There is a kind of slightly more relaxed | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
but still very insistent awareness of the groove that is | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
distinct from the African-American tradition and, as I say, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
in a way that predates anything that we have. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
The rhythm is, of course, a really important element of that - | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
the syncopated, offbeat rhythms | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
and that sort of driving pulse that was, of course, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
great for dancing as well. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
# Doo-dah, doo-dah doo-dah, doo-dah. # | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
Everything is played on the up beat. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
And then you can imagine that going on, a kick drum might | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
throw in some syncopated beats on top. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
# Dah, boom, boom, dah-dah, doo, doo | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
# Boom, dah-dah, dah-dah Boom, boom. # | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
SWING MUSIC PLAYS | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
Leslie Thompson first picked up the euphonium | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
at his orphanage in Jamaica. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
From the start, he showed great promise, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
and he continued to play after joining the West India Regiment | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
of the British Army. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
Jamaica was part of the British Empire and the Army gave him | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
an opportunity to escape the economic deprivation of the time, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
come to Britain and get a prestigious music education. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
I've come to the Royal Military School of Music at Kneller Hall | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
in Twickenham to hear about one talented musician without whom | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
Black British swing might never have taken off. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
Leslie arrived here in 1919, aged just 17 and I've heard about | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
a precious school record book that shows just how talented he was. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
Leslie Thompson came here, there's a record. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
The entry from Kneller Hall, we can see the West India regiment | 0:09:36 | 0:09:42 | |
that's two dittos so you have Eccles, Mclean and Thompson, 68. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
68, Thompson. And they joined Kneller Hall on 13th of April 1919. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:55 | |
And left the beginning of December the following year, 1920. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
And Leslie's instrument here was the euphonium and the other two, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
clarinet and cornet. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
And you can see fair, fairly good comes to Leslie Thompson. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
Very high! | 0:10:12 | 0:10:13 | |
Very high. And there isn't another very high. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
There's very good and there's fair but there's no other very high. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
So is it fair to say that Leslie Thompson was | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
pretty exceptional as a musician? | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
Yes. Oh, yes. Yes. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:24 | |
The document here in Twickenham says "euphonium" but I know | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
Leslie had violin lessons. So there's violin before he came to England. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
He played trumpet or cornet. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
I suspect he played the trombone before he came to England. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
By the time he settled in England in 1929, he could play the cello, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
the string bass, trumpet, trombone, clarinet. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
You name it, he'd learnt them all | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
because he was going to be a professional musician. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
In many ways, Kneller Hall was an ideal environment in which | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
Leslie could flourish but this was also a time when | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
racial discrimination was widely accepted in Britain. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
And within the Army, there were strict limits | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
on what he could achieve. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:04 | |
He so much enjoyed his time at Kneller Hall | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
and so much enjoyed the opportunities that had come his way, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
he spoke to his colleagues and said, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
"Oh, I want to go for the Bandmaster Certificate." | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
And he asked around about applying for a Bandmaster, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
about being sent back to Kneller Hall as a bandmaster, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
and it was pointed out to him that bandmasters are officers | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
and the King's regulations, the British Army forbade | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
any Negro or person of colour holding the King's commission. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
If you were Black, you couldn't be an officer in the British Army | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
and it came to Leslie as a big blow. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
His ambition crushed, Leslie returned to Jamaica | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
where he would remain until 1929. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
The man with whom Leslie would eventually form | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
his all-Black swing band, Ken Snakehips Johnson, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
was from an entirely different background. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
The son of a government minister, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:08 | |
he grew up amongst the privileged classes in British Guyana. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
And in 1929 he was sent here, to William Borlase School | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
in the quaint English town of Marlow, Buckinghamshire. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
The plan was for Ken to finish his schooling and then | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
train for a respectable profession, maybe medicine or the law. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
Young Ken, on the other hand, had different ideas. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
Within just a few years of arriving here, Ken would be intoxicating | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
London audiences as a dancer and bandleader but meanwhile, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
he quickly settled into ordinary school life. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
Today he's still remembered fondly | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
and serves as an inspiration for students at the school. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
It's extraordinary to see, 1930, Ken is very much the only | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
Black face here. Do we have a sense of how he reacted to that? | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
Do we have a sense of how he dealt with those challenges? | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
He was a really good student. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
He had enough courage to really participate in school. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
He didn't mind where he was from and what was expected of him. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
He just sort of... He fit in really strangely well. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
I think just by the fact that he felt confident enough to join these teams | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
and his team-mates were so supportive of him, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
I think that he was well accepted. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
MUSIC: "Tuxedo Junction" | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
We'll never know for sure just how accepted Ken felt here | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
but one thing's for sure, nothing held him back. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
It was whilst at school that Ken's interest in music really grew, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
and although he played the violin here, as a young man of his time, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
it wasn't classical music that got him fired up. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
The teenage Ken Johnson loved jazz. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
He had a dream of becoming a dancer and that dream would eventually | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
earn him the name Snakehips and draw him into the swinging London scene. | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
MUSIC: "It Don't Mean a Thing If It Ain't Got That Swing" | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
The fashion for tea dances with set steps had changed. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
Innovation and freedom of expression would define the new jazz era. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
And dancing was more popular than ever. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
Dancing after the First World War became a huge leisure occupation. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
And people were beginning to dance in a much more improvisational way. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
Rather that following strict steps like you'd get for something | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
like the waltz, taking on these new dances, like a foxtrot | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
or a quickstep, and maybe being able to improvise much more | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
and choosing the steps that they would do. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
At the same time, you've got the novelty dances. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Things like the grizzly bear and the turkey trot, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
that had their own little steps associated with them as well. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
Whether it was the bumblebee sting or the Charleston, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
everyone was dancing. And to feed the nation's growing obsession, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
huge venues opened up, known as the Palais de Danse. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
These were huge, great, massive venues. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
And they put a band quite often at each end. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
There'd be a stage at each end. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:02 | |
Inspired by American jazz music, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
White British big bands offered an anglicised take on that sound. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
This soon became the popular dance music of its day. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
And meanwhile, exciting new technologies like the wireless | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
and the latest record pressings also allowed some audiences | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
to experience that authentic American sound. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
For the last nine years, Leslie Thompson had been | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
back in his native Jamaica. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
He was making his living playing music in the silent movie theatres. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
But when the talkies arrived in 1929, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
his career was suddenly under threat. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
It was to Britain that he would turn | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
to seek bigger musical opportunities. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
He came here to work as a professional musician. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Which means dance bands, theatre, pit bands, show bands, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:16 | |
perhaps making films, and that's what you could do. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
Leslie hoped to make his living as a trumpeter. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
And like every other jobbing musician in London | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
he headed to Archer Street. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:30 | |
This narrow back street in Soho became a sort of unofficial | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
labour exchange for freelance musicians. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
And with older musical players not suited to the new music, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
which exploded all existing rules, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
it became about the next generation coming through. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
And this is the block on which those new kids gathered. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
The scene was growing, and one musician remembers it well. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:59 | |
It was like this. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:00 | |
You turned up in Archer Street and it was packed from one end to the next. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
And as you walked, you see guys used to put their hands up like that, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
"Got a gig for you." And this tells you how much, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
£5 or £10 or £15 as the case may be, by the hands going, you know. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
And that's the way we used to get our gigs. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
MUSIC: "20th Century Blues" | 0:17:19 | 0:17:20 | |
During the depression of the 1930s, Archer Street was a crucial hub | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
where musicians like Leslie found work, from underground clubs | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
to playing in the orchestra of huge West End musicals. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Leslie Thompson was a great musician. He played several instruments. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
He fit right in to the West End musical, stage musical scene. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
# Why is it that civilised humanity... # | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
They wanted instrumentation that would | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
give the flavour of jazz, of authentic jazz to a stage musical. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
He hooked up with CB Cochran, a great producer, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
did the early Noel Coward smashes on stage. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
So he was very well received. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
In the early 1930s, the finest American sounds were | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
arriving in London, and jazz enthusiasts heard Louis Armstrong | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
and Duke Ellington's pioneering recordings or saw them live | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
when the bands came here on tour. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
MUSIC: "West End Blues" by Louis Armstrong | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
In 1931, Leslie Thompson heard Louis Armstrong for the first time. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:28 | |
Armstrong is, you know, playing all these notes and pulling them | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
out of this and that place of stratosphere and so on. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
I mean, you've got to be dead not to admire Armstrong, you know, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
and he did, he had that, he had that admiration. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
MUSIC: "Tiger Rag" by Louis Armstrong | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
British audiences loved this stuff | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
and wanted more of the authentic jazz sound from America. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
But in the context of the Great Depression and high unemployment, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
the Government passed legislation to safeguard British jobs | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
and restrict visiting musicians. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
Leslie could now play in the White British bands that emerged to | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
fill the gap the Americans had left. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
But he was also increasingly aware of an emerging movement in New York | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
that sought to empower Black people throughout the world. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
In 1914, Marcus Garvey set up | 0:19:38 | 0:19:39 | |
the Universal Negro Improvement Association | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
that encouraged Black people to celebrate their African heritage. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
As his organisation grew in power and influence, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
Garvey came to London to inspire and rally the Black British population. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
It was at Speakers' Corner, here in London's Hyde Park, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
that Leslie Thompson would have seen Marcus Garvey in the flesh | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
and heard his message of Black economic empowerment. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
Leslie was moved by Garvey's words. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
He'd been prevented from becoming a bandleader in his regiment | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
because of his colour, but he saw now that in the world of jazz, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
this could be the key to his success. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
He realised that his opportunity was going to be standing | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
in place of these missing | 0:20:35 | 0:20:36 | |
African-Americans and, in particular, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
as people were beginning to become more acquainted with Louis Armstrong | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
as a performer, that he could stand in for Louis Armstrong. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
People were associating this new music, jazz, with Black people. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
And as Leslie said, there was song called My Face Is My Fortune | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
and he was in the right place at the right time. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
He was a Black guy who played the trumpet in London. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
The teenage Ken Johnson was also drawn to the capital, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
where he was pursuing his dream of becoming a dancer. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
Ken was ambitious and driven, and by 1934 he had even | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
landed role as a nightclub dancer in the British film Oh, Daddy. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
Ken had been learning from the best, and his celebrated dance teacher, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
Buddy Bradley, helped him get the part. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
Buddy Bradley who was an African-American choreographer, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
very, very famous and very popular in England in the 1930s. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
Bradley was choreographing the top West End shows and film musicals. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
And audiences loved them. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
Buddy Bradley also ran a dance school and everybody went to him | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
to learn a few dance steps. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
And Ken would have learnt from him. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:45 | |
So Ken Johnson was making a name for himself as a dancer, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
but he wanted more. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
And this ambition would take him all the way across the Atlantic. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
It's on record that Ken Snakehips Johnson visited New York in 1934, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
at the height of the popularity of the Cotton Club and the Black bands. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:09 | |
MUSIC: "Zaz Zuh Zaz" by Cab Calloway | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Duke Ellington, Cab Calloway, Fletcher Henderson. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
He'd met Fletcher Henderson, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
the most influential swing bandleader of the mid-30s. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
Mr Henderson said, "Ah here, here's a baton, can you conduct the band? | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
"Go ahead. See, that's easy. When you go back, you should get a band. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
"You could make some money." | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
So that's all the encouragement he needed. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
Ken returned to Britain with a new nickname and a new career. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
He was now Snakehips Johnson - bandleader. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
He's young, handsome and he had aspirations of really making it. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:52 | |
Coming from, what you would call traditional middle class background, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:59 | |
he really wanted to be a posh star, I think. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
The jazz craze spread through London's West End | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
and high demand created more opportunities. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
Many West Indian musicians came to seek their musical fortunes | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
in the UK and a small but thriving artistic community sprang up. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
Earl Cameron, then a budding young actor, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
came over from Bermuda, attracted to the scene. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
The Jig's Club. You ever heard of the Jig's Club? | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
-I have, yes. -That was the real hang-out. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
Tractors, Bateman Street, Soho. La Java club on Old Compton Street. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
Jazz. All jazz music, first class musicians. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
Yorke de Souza. You know York de Souza? He was a pianist. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
I knew them all. I knew them all, yeah. That's what London was like. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
You were in competition, of course, but you were friends. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
You got to know most of them, anyway. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
Or if you didn't get a chance to meet them, | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
because they played within such a band, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
you had a respect for them and you wanted to meet them. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
Among this lively community, Ken Snakehips and Leslie Thompson | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
met and hatched a plan that would | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
put their complementary talents to good use. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
In 1935, drummer Happy Blake put a West Indian band together | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
to play at his Cuba Club. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
And now Ken and Leslie dared to dream of forming | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
an all-Black British swing band that could really make it to the top. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
I think the partnership of Leslie Thompson and Ken Snakehips Johnson | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
was really very dynamic, bringing together the musicianship of Leslie - | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
who was, by all accounts, a brilliant musician, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
highly respected and regarded - and Ken Snakehips who had this | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
enormous star quality, this stage presence | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
which brought the audience to him, wherever he was playing, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
or whoever he was playing to. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:50 | |
Whether it was the upper classes or the working classes, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
it attracted them to him. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
With their own roles clear, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
Ken and Leslie set out to find the finest Black musicians around | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
to form the band and turn a bold dream into reality. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
In 1936 they launched the Emperors of Jazz, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
the first real Black British swing band. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
The 14-piece group included Jamaican trumpeter Leslie Jiver Hutchinson. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
I met up with Jiver's daughter, singer Elaine Delmar, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
who still has the original photograph of the band. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
And this is a picture of Ken Johnson's band. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
I love it because... | 0:25:26 | 0:25:27 | |
Oh, there's my father. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
And there's Leslie Thompson, Yorke de Souza on piano, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:35 | |
Bertie King, and on guitar here was Joe Deniz. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
-They were a very good-looking band, weren't they? -Weren't they? | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
-They're immaculate. -Beautiful. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
The Emperors of Jazz were a disparate mixture of | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
African, Welsh, Jamaican and London-born players, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
all united by their colour. Well, almost. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
I love this picture in particular as well because they've got these | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
two trombonists who are White | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
with their not very good blacked up faces. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
They've put on a little, a little Egyptian on their faces. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
Black trombonists were apparently hard to come by | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
so the initial line-up of the Emperors of Jazz also included | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
two White English boys, who blacked up to fit in with the band. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
White impostors aside, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:17 | |
the Emperors were offering something completely new. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
This was something unique. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
This was something that hadn't happened before. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
This was a Black British/Guyanese, young, charismatic guy | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
fronting a band. And that had never happened. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
The Black musicians and bandleaders that people had been exposed to | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
before had all been African American visitors. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Behind the scenes, Leslie as musical leader | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
put the band to work rehearsing in Soho's Gerrard Street. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
When they were rehearsing this music for the first time, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
all these American charts that they'd managed to bring over, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
musicians would come and sort of huddle round the rehearsal room door | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
and sort of listen to them because it was this new sound. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
It was this new feel to the music. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
He speaks in particular of trying to get the lift and swing | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
in the rhythm section so he would grill the rhythm section | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
to try and get that feel right. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
After nearly two months of tough rehearsals, the band were ready | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
to put themselves out there. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
From London to Liverpool, the band toured the country. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
And by late 1936, audiences were lapping them up. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
Much of their success was due to the sheer thrill of their music, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
but their timing also helped, as White British audiences were now | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
ready to enjoy the talents, and the novelty, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
of an all-Black swing band. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
MUSIC: "Tap Your Feet" | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
The band had got the swing, and the image, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
what they needed now was a residency in one of the swanky London clubs. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
It would have to be a big club. A dancing club | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
had to be big, and that meant dinner, that meant review, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
that meant starting probably at 11.00 and playing until the | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
sun comes up or something, for the very rich who didn't have to get up. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
Within weeks, Ken Johnson had got the fledgling Emperors of Jazz | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
a six week trial at London's oldest swingerie, the Old Florida Club | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
here in what was then South Bruton Mews. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
For the first time, each member of the ten-piece band | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
would have steady work and wages in a high-class London joint, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
without having to scramble for short-term contracts, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
one off gigs, or touring the length of the country. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
The band began their residency on New Year's Eve in 1936, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
and they quickly became a roaring success. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
For the first time, the Emperors of Jazz were bringing | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
a home-grown, infectious, Black, American-style swing | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
to British dance floors and White audiences were enthralled. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
Reports at the time attest that this was just the swingingest band | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
in London, not just because they were Black, but because they played | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
the music with, I guess, positivity and insistence and a belief. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
You've got to remember that the West Indies is closer | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
in proximity to America as well, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:27 | |
so a lot of these musicians would have spent time in North America, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
they would have spent time hearing Ellington up close | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
and getting a sense of the source and transmuting that to an audience. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
The band had broken through race, class and societal barriers | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
and were doing better than either of its founders had hoped. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
As bandleader, Ken was growing into the role of showman | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
and drawing in the high class audiences. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
Snakehips, his charisma was a major factor in him fronting the band. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
But he wasn't musical. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
He wasn't a musician. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:07 | |
I've met several, over the years, I've met several of the musicians | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
in that group, and one of them said to me that Ken Johnson | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
couldn't tell B flat from a pig's foot. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
So you're not looking at Ken Johnson as being a musical director. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
But Leslie's musical rigour meant the product | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
was as good as its promise. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
On one level, it appeared a harmonious partnership, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
but the two men were very different characters. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
Leslie the committed, idealistic musician | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
and Ken the shrewd and ambitious charmer. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
Don't forget, a lot of the band leaders then didn't play anything. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
Didn't need to, or even if they could play an instrument, | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
they didn't play it in front of the band. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
Yeah, and he could dance, and very handsome. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
Ken's drive married to Leslie's musicianship had brought them | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
to the verge of huge of success. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
# It ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
# It ain't what you... # | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
But no-one could have predicted what would happen next. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
Leslie Thompson and Snakehips clearly wanted very different things. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
We have no way of knowing the complexities | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
of the relationship between the two men. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
By all accounts, they were trusted friends who worked well together. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
But as fame and fortune beckoned, Ken made a move | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
to legally cut Leslie out of the running of the band. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
He did that because he realised the band wasn't legally incorporated. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:45 | |
It had been done on a handshake, as far as we know. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
So they signed a contract and made the band a formal legal entity. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
-Without Leslie Thompson. -Without Leslie Thompson. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
That's got to hurt if you're Leslie Thompson. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
Yes, a room full of silence here. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
Perhaps looking ahead to the future, for a band of that kind | 0:32:04 | 0:32:10 | |
to sustain itself, it needed a figurehead | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
and Leslie Thompson couldn't be the figurehead. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
It had to be Ken Snakehips. So there the conflict must have started. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
What it was in effect, was that Johnson stole Leslie's band | 0:32:21 | 0:32:27 | |
but it would have been open for negotiation, I think. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
I think it would have been open for negotiation | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
and Thompson chose not to follow that path. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
On paper, Ken was triumphant. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
He had the lucrative contract for a residency at | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
one of London's top venues. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
But he also had one minor problem, there was no band. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
All but two of the line-up had left with Leslie, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
and Ken now urgently needed new musicians. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
He sent word back to the West Indies | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
where he knew the very best players in the business. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
Now he needed these men and he could offer them | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
their big break on the British scene. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
A new line-up, a new band and a new name was born. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
Ken Snakehips Johnson and his West Indian Dance Orchestra. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
They certainly looked the part but without Leslie, the musical leader, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
the question was, would they be good enough? | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
They could hold their own against the American musicians? | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
Oh, absolutely. Oh, no doubt about that. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
Especially the guys from Jamaica. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
They were extremely well-trained musicians. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
Oh, they could hold their own, yes. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
Had they gone to New York instead of London, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
they would have got in the big bands, I think, over there. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
It was just a few days after Snakehips' new recruits stepped | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
off the boat from the West Indies, that Ken's orchestra got their | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
first glowing review from Britain's leading jazz newspaper, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
Melody Maker. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:00 | |
Ken looks not unlike Cab Calloway at the mike, what with his long, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
lean, lanky figure, white, swallow-tailed, evening suit, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
white tie and white shoes. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:13 | |
Ken goes all out to make the Old Florida | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
as much like a New York club as possible. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
The residency at the Old Florida Club | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
really opened doors for the band. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
The public knew where to find them and began seeking them out. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
And the new West Indian group were well and truly on their way. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
SWING MUSIC PLAYS | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
By 1938, the success of the band seemed unstoppable. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
In April 1939, they nabbed and new residency at Willerby's, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
another local high society venue. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
The whole of London was swinging by now | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
but a threat was around the corner. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
'This is the BBC Home Service. Here is a short news bulletin.' | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
'The German Army invaded Holland and Belgium earlier this morning | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
'by land and by landings from parachutes.' | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
On 3rd September, 1939, Britain declared war on Germany. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
As war raged overseas, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:20 | |
many London clubs shut their doors due to fear of bombing. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
In October 1939, Willerby's closed | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
and the band were once again without a home. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
But just when things looked their bleakest, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
they landed the sweetest gig in town. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
The legendary Cafe De Paris was the exclusive, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
high society, cabaret nightspot of the age. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
So famous it had even featured as the Piccadilly Club | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
in a celebrated 1929 film. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
It's a very interesting scene here especially | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
because the club received Royal endorsement. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
You know, the Prince of Wales visited and there were all sorts of | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
aristocratic, high society figures that would come here, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
again as much to be seen to be here as anything else. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
It was a venue that was very much part of that fashionable society. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
This venue had that very sort of special quality about it, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
I think, that really maybe people would aspire to come here | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
and to be on that sort of level of society. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
The Cafe De Paris was also one of the only nightclubs | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
that didn't close during the war. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
Situated 20 feet underground, it was billed as bomb proof, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
"London's gayest, safest nightspot." | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
What about dancing? | 0:36:39 | 0:36:40 | |
This is really the first era | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
in which people go to a swing club and swing, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
did that have an impact on what was happening socially at time? | 0:36:44 | 0:36:49 | |
Yes, it did, because England at that time, you know, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
we've always been a very conservative country, conservative with a small C. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
So to let your inhibitions down what best place to go | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
but the Cafe De Paris or some West End nightclub | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
and shed your inhibitions. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
Just as working class people would have gone to the pub | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
on a Friday night and had a singsong round the piano. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
During the war, clubs like the Cafe de Paris were more popular than ever | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
as thousands of Londoners danced on. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
The uniform was a great social leveller, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
and for those who could afford it, this once exclusive nightclub | 0:37:24 | 0:37:29 | |
now welcomed a far broader clientele. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
Everyone wanted the same thing, to escape the dreary everyday hardships | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
of the war and to live every day as if was your last. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
At the Cafe De Paris, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:49 | |
Snakehips' orchestra could rule the society dance floor. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
But there was another huge advantage to the club. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
In the 1930s, BBC Radio exposure had become a crucial step up | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
in any serious dance band's career. The next generation of producers | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
were now picking up on the new jazz sounds | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
and had the power to turn a band into a household name. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
The Cafe De Paris was one of the few venues where bands | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
could record directly for BBC Radio broadcast. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
Now, people across the land could hear the swingingest music | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
in the comfort of their own homes. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
RADIO TUNES | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
MUSIC: "It Was A Lover And His Lass" | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
People had to let down their guard and shed their inhibitions. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
Certainly during the war, people like Ken Snakehips Johnson | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
would have encouraged that with his music on the wireless. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
And that must have been wonderful for people to listen to. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
# It was a lover and his lass | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
# With a hey and a ho and a hey nonny no... # | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
To escape from the war when that came about | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
and the bombing and the air raids. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
What a wonderful way to escape from that reality. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
Ken Snakehips Johnson's orchestra were in solid rotation | 0:39:08 | 0:39:13 | |
in the late night slot on the airwaves, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
reaching a peak audience of over 3.5 million listeners in April 1940. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:20 | |
And the band even managed to get on an early television recording. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
He became a huge personality and associated with radio. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
Even before the war, his radio career is really important | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
because it did bring him to that mass audience. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
Snakehips may have stepped on a few toes along the way, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
but he was fast becoming a celebrity. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
By 1940, his group had been voted number one swing band in Britain. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:49 | |
Snakehips was interviewed by radio journalist Una Marson for her series | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
Calling the West Indies on the BBC's Empire, now World, Service. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
UNA: 'So, you left London a tap dancer and returned a band conductor? | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
-KEN: -'Well, Una, I first had to convince London that | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
'I could conduct as well as I could dance. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
'How did you set about it? | 0:40:07 | 0:40:08 | |
'When I got over here, I got a band together, nearly all Jamaicans. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
'We were billed as The Jamaican Emperors of Jazz and we got | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
-'stage engagements in various cinemas in the country. -Yes? | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
'Then after a year, I reorganised the band with West Indians | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
'from all the important islands in the West Indies, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
'a real West Indian band. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:28 | |
'And this new venture led you where? | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
'Well, again we were very lucky. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
'We got a contract to play at a smart West End club, the Florida. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
'We stayed there for two years and made some very good contacts. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
'And of course you started broadcasting. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
'Yes, at the end of those two years in 1938. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
'And so, then, you really felt established? | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
'I'm glad to say we did.' | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
PACEY SWING MUSIC | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
Thanks to the reach of the BBC broadcasts, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
news of Ken's fame spread far and wide. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
Back in Guyana, he had this big name. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
He had done very, very well so therefore he was to me | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
an inspiration, you know, and I thought, "Well, one day." | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
I used to say to myself, I said, "Well, one day I'm going to | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
"go to Britain and I'm going to be like Ken Snakehips Johnson." | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
And the audience used to say to me, "Oh, shut up, boy." You know. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
I said, "No." | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
What sort of impact do you think he had | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
on the British swing scene in general? | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
Oh, I can't tell you. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
It... He had a great, great impact because, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
if you imagine in those days, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
here was this guy and he stood, dapperly dressed, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
in front of them and conducted. And he was a one-off. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
And this was the thing that inspired not only the British people here | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
but a lot of us in the West Indies or wherever we were. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
And so that is what inspired me no end to try | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
and come to this country and see if I could do similarly. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
The young Ken Johnson had worshipped great African-American bandleaders | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
like Cab Calloway and Duke Ellington. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
But now Britain now had its own bandleader who could stand | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
shoulder to shoulder with his heroes. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
You can't underestimate the importance | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
of a front man like Ken Johnson. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
I mean, looking at someone like James Brown you can say, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
although he didn't compose in terms of the dots, compose the music, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
he knew exactly what he wanted and he'd ask the musicians | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
to emphasise specific things. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:38 | |
And in terms of being able to translate the complexity, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
the intricacy of that music to an audience in a way that would | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
make them want to dance, you really can't undervalue that. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
# Sometimes I wonder... # | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
Ken the front man was also a shrewd manipulator of his own brand, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
and posed as the star on the front cover of | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
the most popular sheet music of the era. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
# ..The melody | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
# Puts my reverie... # | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
Elaine Delmar still has some of the original publicity shots. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
This is a wonderful one. Ken Snakehips again. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
-Yes, yes. -Clearly Ken is the star. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
-Yes. -1936. -Had a great deal of style, didn't he? -Certainly did. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:25 | |
-Look at that. -Yeah. And this one's "To my pal, Leslie". -Wow. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:30 | |
At the height of their success, the orchestra's elegant, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
white-tailcoat-suited bandleader was living a charmed life. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
Ken was making good money in some part on the backs of | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
some of his musicians. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
That's the way it was then. And he lived in the West End. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
He could walk to work. He dressed well. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
He could dine at the Embassy Club | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
and then walk on over to the Cafe De Paris and lead the band. | 0:43:56 | 0:44:01 | |
MUSIC: "Tuxedo Junction" | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
UNA MARSON: 'Tell me, Ken, | 0:44:11 | 0:44:12 | |
'what would you say is the secret of your successes? | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
-KEN: -'Now you're asking a rather difficult question. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
'Let me see, I myself am all for swing music | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
'and I have a fine lot of musicians, young fellows who don't merely | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
'play for pay, but who enjoy every minute of their work. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:29 | |
'Their enthusiasm is infectious and has stamped the style of the band.' | 0:44:34 | 0:44:39 | |
Snakehips was now a household name, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
but what had become of his former partner Leslie Thompson? | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
Well, Leslie would never again lead his own band. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
but he was a respected musician, in high demand on the London scene. | 0:44:55 | 0:45:00 | |
LATIN AMERICAN MUSIC | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
Leslie was playing the double bass with Edmundo Ross. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
They played sambas and rumbas | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
and what we now like to call Latin American music. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
The band would play and there would be the rattles on the flared shirts | 0:45:15 | 0:45:19 | |
and stuff like that. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:20 | |
Taking dogs for a walk, I think it would be, musically. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
But, you know, they earned a living out of it and had a lot of fun. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
Ross was very, very successful. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
War was under way in Europe but in early 1940 | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
it was yet to be felt on London's streets. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
In the capital, people were taking their fun where they could find it. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
In this heady atmosphere, the disagreements of the past were | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
left behind and Ken and Leslie were forging their own paths. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
Edmundo, Leslie and the band were soon broadcasting at least | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
once a week from The Criterion Theatre, here in Piccadilly Circus. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
While just around the corner, Ken Johnson and his orchestra | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
were playing at the Cafe De Paris. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
The two bands continued to play, and broadcast, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
just streets away from each other. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
Until the Blitz shook London's nightlife to its core. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
On September 7th, 1940, Hitler launched the first night | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
of bombing raids on British cities. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
The plan was to demoralise the population into submission. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
One became very philosophical about the war. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
You had no choice, the war was on. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
You go to sleep, you might wake up the next morning, you might not. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:33 | |
Just depends where the bombs will drop. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
But London refused to be demoralised, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
and its gayest, safest nightclub kept on swinging. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
Around 9.30pm on the 8th March, 1941, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
Snakehips was having drinks with friends | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
at the Embassy Club on Regent Street | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
before his show at the Cafe De Paris. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
An air raid was raging, and his friends urged him to stay, | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
but Snakehips was determined to get to the Cafe for his show. | 0:46:56 | 0:47:00 | |
He dashed through London streets as the bombs were falling, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
and made it just in time for his set. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
That night, one of the Luftwaffe's targets of attack was the busy | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
area between Piccadilly Circus and Leicester Square, | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
right in the heart of London's West End. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
At 10.00 the band began to play. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
They started with their signature tune Oh, Johnny. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
But just moments later, they were interrupted. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
Two high explosive German bombs had hit the Rialto Cinema | 0:47:26 | 0:47:31 | |
directly above the Cafe De Paris. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
And although this famous nightclub was supposed to be bomb proof, | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
being so far underground, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
one bomb landed directly in front of the stage. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
I was in the Corner House in Tottenham Court Road, Oxford Street. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:48 | |
You're on the Corner House, Lyons Corner House. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
It was a place myself and a couple of guys used to hang out | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
almost every evening, got there about 11.00. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
We heard the bomb drop. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
The whole of London shook like that, the West End anyhow. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
And while we were sitting there we said, "Well, somebody's been hit." | 0:48:02 | 0:48:07 | |
And a girl, I always forget her name, | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
I think her name was June or Joan. She was from Tiger Bay. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
She used to sing in front of the band. And she came in crying. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:18 | |
And she said, and she was in absolute tears, shaking, said, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:23 | |
"Ken's dead, Ken's dead. The bomb came in." | 0:48:23 | 0:48:28 | |
She told me this night, the bomb hit this dance floor right here. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
It came right through from the roof, this rocket. Did you know about that? | 0:48:31 | 0:48:36 | |
Through the cinema. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:37 | |
It came all the way down and then hit the... | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
It exploded on the dance floor. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
Standing at the front of the stage, | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
Ken Snakehips Johnson was killed instantly. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
Like so many thousands of innocent Britons, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
Johnson lost his life in the Blitz, his ambitions destroyed. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
The bomb left the Cafe De Paris in ruins, and devastation in its wake. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
At least 34 people died in the night club that night, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
with over 80 injured. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:12 | |
It was chaos and a lot of people died. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
Ken died, of course, and one of his band members died, | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
Baba Williams, a tenor sax player. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
But Elaine Delmar's father Jiver Hutchinson was | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
one of the luckier ones who escaped unscathed. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
Your dad was here. How does that make you feel? | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
Well, I'm so thrilled that he survived it. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
It's kind of weird, isn't it? | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
SHE LAUGHS Weird. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
He talked vaguely about the bombing here in the Cafe De Paris | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
and I think he was one of the few to survive that. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
He was very, very lucky. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
Apparently, he was found playing in another club. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
He got out of here and was playing somewhere else. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
So I imagine he might have been in shock. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
I don't know. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:03 | |
The aftermath was just dreadful and what happened was awful but | 0:50:03 | 0:50:08 | |
the loss of lives was terrible but the loss of Ken was just really | 0:50:08 | 0:50:13 | |
unbearable because no Black British bandleader had got as far as | 0:50:13 | 0:50:18 | |
he had and he was immensely popular and loved by the British public. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:23 | |
But the British public didn't really have time to mourn. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
As Hitler's Luftwaffe pounded London, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
more men were called to fight for King and country. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
In 1942, Leslie Thompson was conscripted and served | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
as a gunner in the Royal Artillery, defending Britain's South coast. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
Back in London, Ken was gone | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
but in his short career his band had really shown Britain how to swing. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
And now, that music was needed more than ever, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
as Londoners sought escape from the grim realities of war. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:54 | |
Give me Harry Parry! | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
Harry Parry was already a household name | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
but when he snapped up Ken's Black musicians, pianist Yorke de Souza, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
guitarist Joe Deniz, and trumpeter Dave Wilkins | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
for his Radio Rhythm Sextet, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
they would become one of Britain's great wartime swing bands. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
It was the Radio Rhythm Club. And they were on all the time. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
They did very well. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:16 | |
They had Yorke de Souza on piano but, of course, | 0:51:16 | 0:51:20 | |
mainly the star was Dave Wilkins on trumpet. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
As the war intensified, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
Ken's musicians helped keep the swing dream alive. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
Clarinettist Carl Barriteau started his own | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
mixed swing orchestra in 1942. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
But Ken and Leslie had had an empowering vision of | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
an all-Black band, and one man wasn't ready to let that dream die. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
'Leslie Jiver Hutchinson and his orchestra | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
'will open their programme with Dr Heckle and Mr Jibe.' | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
Jiver Hutchinson had been playing for | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
some of the biggest White swing bands | 0:52:01 | 0:52:02 | |
but in 1944 he gathered up some of his old band-mates | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
to form his own, all-coloured orchestra. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
Leslie (Jiver) Hutchinson and his All-Star Coloured Orchestra. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
One of their first engagements. The RAF Benevolent Fund. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:17 | |
He worked with many other bands | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
-but I suppose that was a great selling point. -Yeah. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
And people, it was, it was quite a heavy, heavy weight to carry | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
because people were always saying, "Leslie, get an all-Black band | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
"because that will sell, that'll really sell." | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
And that's what he did. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
And I guess this music was just so delightful to people that | 0:52:34 | 0:52:39 | |
-people just wanted to dance and let... -Lift the people's spirits. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
Lift their people's spirits, exactly. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
MUSIC: "1945 Swing" | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
Post-war Britain was very different place. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
Swing had kept the nation's chin up and toes tapping | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
through tough times. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
But now people were retreating into their homes to rebuild their lives | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
and in there was a very appealing new kind of entertainment. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
Hello, Radio Olympia. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
This is direct television from the studios at Alexandra Palace. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
# Just looking at you... # | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
In the 1950s, the way we lived our lives changed. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
New technologies in a freer, more aspirational society meant | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
far greater choice both inside and outside the home. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
New musical styles were jostling for attention | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
and rock'n'roll was just around the corner. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
The nation was now hooked on popular dance music | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
and swing had started it all. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:39 | |
MUSIC: "Rock Around The Clock" by Bill Haley | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
And what of the trailblazing duo | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
who had brought Black British swing to the masses? | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
Well, Ken's life may have been tragically cut short. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
But after the war, Leslie found himself back on Archer Street | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
hustling for work. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:00 | |
By the 1950s though, as he struck middle age, | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
he'd fallen out of love with the music business. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
I think when he decided to pack up playing music, which was in 1954, | 0:54:09 | 0:54:15 | |
30 years before he died, he had realised that the music industry, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
the entertainment industry is superficial | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
and he wanted more than that. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
He was influenced by really two forces. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:32 | |
One was the Garveyite, which was an inspiration to | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
make something of himself and his...for his community. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
But also it must have been religious because he allied himself | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
with the Anglican Church. But he worked with immigrants. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
That's what he wanted to do. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
He eventually became a parole officer | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
and worked out of Pentonville. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
And he never again tried to create an all-Black British swing band? | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
No, he... That was past, a different life. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
And his life was one of inspired service to others. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
In his later years, Leslie found peace in God | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
and reward in his social work. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
But Ken Snakehips Johnson would never have a chance to | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
look back and reflect on that heady swing age. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
Dead by 26, he was just one of many | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
whose lives and promise were cut short. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:37 | |
In the music press, Snakehips was mourned as a tragic loss. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:41 | |
After his death, Ken's ashes were returned | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
to his school chapel in Marlow, where they still rest. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
Although he enjoyed a meteoric rise to fame, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
delighting London audiences | 0:55:54 | 0:55:55 | |
and garnering critical acclaim | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
from the likes of the BBC and Melody Maker, | 0:55:57 | 0:55:59 | |
Snakehips was never able to realise the full potential | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
of his talent and ambition. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
If he hadn't been killed in a heavy night of bombing during | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
the London Blitz, who knows what | 0:56:07 | 0:56:08 | |
Snakehips might have gone on to achieve. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
'It certainly struck me his death, right here at Cafe De Paris | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
'in the Blitz, connected to such a pivotal moment in British history.' | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
And again, not necessarily being celebrated as such, | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
I felt it was important to honour that story, the tragedy of it | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
and the triumph that his music lives on, you know, | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
through writing a song dedicated to him. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
One thing's for sure, Black British swing changed our musical landscape. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:29 | |
And the remarkable individuals behind it, deserve to be celebrated. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:34 | |
If people think of the '30s, they think of Jessie Matthews or | 0:57:34 | 0:57:38 | |
Noel Coward or George Formby and obviously Gracie Fields eventually. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:43 | |
And so it's a very, very different landscape to these | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
incredibly arresting Black performers. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
So I think it's very important that we reclaim them. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:53 | |
The rise to fame was meteoric and they really hit their peak | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
at the point at which the band was destroyed. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
It's amazing when I think where they came from, and they came from | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
the Caribbean and came to London, to the heart of Mayfair here, you know. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:14 | |
And how they climbed up that ladder. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
It had a tremendous influence on me as a musician | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
just to see a sense of lineage. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:25 | |
It's quite difficult sometimes to contextualise yourself | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
as a Black British musician | 0:58:28 | 0:58:30 | |
and feel like you're either one or the other. | 0:58:30 | 0:58:32 | |
To be aware that there was this trajectory of musicians | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 | |
playing the music well, way back in the '30s. | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 | |
If you have something to offer, | 0:58:39 | 0:58:42 | |
and you go out with belief and it's genuine, | 0:58:42 | 0:58:45 | |
you know, it's all there for us. | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
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