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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

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Our guest tonight has only been in EastEnders since November and is

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already looking like he could be the biggest villain the Square has

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ever seen. He's 20% dirtier than Dirty Den. 40% Nastier than Nasty

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Nick. And 99% more frightening than Dot Cotton after half a bottle of

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sherry. No-one's more frightening than Dot! Please welcome the newest

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Walford wiseguy, Jamie Foreman! mentioned Dirty Den and Nasty Nick.

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Was there a lot of pressure when you started to be a good bad guy?

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I've done a few before, but no, I didn't feel any pressure before. It

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was such an interesting character, and I had a lot of input into it

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before we went into the show. I thought it was very important,

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because it is such an immediate show in people's living rooms, it

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was really important to hit the floor running with him. I had some

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great actors around me. I'm wall to wall with good actors. Pam St

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Clement gave me the best entrance I could ask for with her reaction to

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me. I was lucky. The rest of it, just let it out, go somewhere new.

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We mentioned other villains, Nasty Nick and Dirty Den. Do you have a

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nickname? Dark, dangerous and sexy. Is that your own! Bruiser Branning.

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Yeah. We'll be talking blags, scals, rackets and "faaaaaamly". Do that

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again. "Faaaaaamly". You won't be ringing me any time soon.

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Let's talk about car insurance. Car insurance costs have rocketed

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recently, particularly for young drivers. For example, if you're a

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bloke aged 22 and under, the average fully comprehensive policy

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now costs �3,163. But beware, if you are looking for

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a cheaper deal, because some policies are as fake as a pint of

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Queen Vic lager. For many young people turning 17 is all about one

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thing - learning to drive. You've passed your driving test, bought

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yourself a little run-around but then there is the small matter of

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insurance. Apprentice chef Nathan Jones couldn't wait to get behind

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the wheel after his 17th birthday. He had saved up and bought himself

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a car but the insurance quote were astronomical. To start with I was

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getting quotes of around �3,000. Obviously that's a lot for someone

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my age, but it is not surprising. But mum, Karen, got wind of a

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company called astast. Their website targeted young drivers --

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called Aston Midshires. Their website targeted young drivers.

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looked at their page and decided to give them a call. What was their

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quote? A lot less. �1, 800. And the salesmen were very convincing.

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went through the normal questions. They gave me the normal advice. No,

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I had no reason to believe that they were dodgy in anyway. Nathan

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paid �549 up front and the rest was to be paid by Standing Order. Days

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later a professional-looking cover note arrived, but he was in for a

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nasty surprise. My friend texted me and said that Aston Midshires

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aren't an insurance company, so I wouldn't sure if it was a joke or

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not. Nathan had been driving for four weeks and had never been

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ensured. It was all a con. Despite the reassuring paperwork the

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company, Aston Midshires, is not allowed to sell insurance. Why?

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Because they are not members of the MIB, the Motor Insurance Bureau.

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And if a company wants to sell insurance, they have to be

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registered with them by law. He was absolutely mortified. Tears coming

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down his face. In a way your son's been the lucky one, because

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anything could have happened behind the wheel of a car. I dread to

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think if he had an accident or anything. I just can't believe how

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lucky he's been. Unfortunately, Nathan was so choughed with the

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deal he told his friends about it. That's exactly what companies like

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Aston Midshires rely on. When Nathan's friend Scott heard about

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the deal he signed up for �1,800 and was driving for three weeks

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before he realised he might have been conned. I went on to the

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internet and tried to get hold of the insurance condition. I asked

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the police to do some checks for me. The police said his car was ensured

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but not in his name. It was ensured to a rand online man in Leeds.

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was all part of the scam to. Avoid police detection, insurance is

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sometimes taken out but key details are changed. Such as the age of the

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driver, so that the company pace much less for the cover and the car

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shows up as ensured on the police's systems. This kind of scam is on

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the rise. There are an estimated 20 ,000 drivers on the road with

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fraudulent policies. That's quite a frightening number. City of London

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Police are so concerned about the growing problem of illegal

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insurance advisers across the UK that a unit has been set up to deal

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with insurance fraud. The victims in this scam appear to be young

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people. Again because they are high risk and attract high premiums they

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are the ones that are sucked into these slightly cheaper deals. The

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net effect dozens of them are driving around with vehicles that

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are effectively uninsured. They've got a policy, so they think, but

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that document isn't valid. It is bogus and it doesn't cover them.

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Therefore they are liable to be stopped and have their vehicle

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seized. Nathan and Scott were lucky they had no major accidents but

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don't think this is a victimless crime. For those driving

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unknowingly without insurance the consequences could be life changing,

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and they are also committing a criminal offence, which could

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result in a minimum of six months, a fine of up to �5 ,000, and even a

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ban. And Nathan and Scott, their cars are still off the road. They

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are fighting to get their money refunded and are back on the hunt

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for affordable insurance. Anita is here. You mentioned that Nathan and

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Scott are fighting to get their money back. What are their chances

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of seeing their money again? Good news. Their parents will get their

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money refunded from it's bank, because they didn't get the

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insurance they paid for. We tried to contact Aston Midshires. Their

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website doesn't exist and the phone numbers we've been ring having been

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going to either a dead line or answerphone message. The police

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have said they've identified 170 other people caught out by this

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scam. It is terrible. If they are watching, get in contact. We are

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here until 7.30pm. I would be shocked if they do. It is mostly

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common sense but how can we avoid falling nor these insurance scasms?

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If you are look for insurance, they have to be registered with the MIB,

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the Motor Insurance Bureau, and the Financial Services Authority. You

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can go to the MIB website. It is called AskMID.com. They have to be

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registered with the both. You have got to do your checks. And if you

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are in that unfortunate position and you realise they've not been

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registered? You have to report it to A Fraud. And if it is that cheap

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in the first place? You say that, but there were still paying �1,800

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a year. Compared to what it used to be it is crazy money. And speaking

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of scams, the Olympics. They are not free of scams are they? No, the

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Olympics organisers have identified 103 e-mail scams which are prize

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draws and lot ris. If you are worried or something has dropped

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into your inbox you can go to the official Olympics website. All of

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the scams are listed. One of them is called the BBC Olympic Prize. It

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would say you could win �18 million if you just enter all your personal

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details. In another life. So just be really careful. There's a lots

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of scams around at this time. And 500,000 people a day will be

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visiting the Olympics site, and a lot of people need accommodation.

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There's a lot of fraudsters out there saying they've got properties

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to rent which don't exist or don't belong to the people advertising

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them, so be careful. And if you are worried or are a potential

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fraudster, the police have a special unit to deal with all

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serious crimes to do with it's Olympics called Operation Podium.

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They run around wearing trainers and all that stuff. Thank you.

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It is a well-known fact that car tyres and small animals don't mix.

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To try to start a motoring migration massacre, Miranda

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Krestovnikoff has been helping a few slimey pedestrians with their

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"Green Cross Toad". Every February and March there's a

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massive hidden migration across Britain. All under cover of

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darkness. In early spring thousands of frogs, newts and toads make

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their way out of the fields and woodlands back into the lakes and

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ponds to breed. In this area of Bath, amphibians have been making

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their annual pilgrimage from these fields for decades, getting to this

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lake half a mile away. An increase in traffic has meant this journey

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has been quite hazardous and has been the demise of many of them.

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Soer for years a band of dedicated, trained volunteers have been

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helping them out, and Anna Ferguson is one of the passionate recruits.

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I started about four years ago. Every year I have seen in the press

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people come here to help the toads over the road. I thought yes, I

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would do that. Stupidly I thought the toads would get together in one

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little line and cross in one place. I couldn't believe when I came up

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here there were hundreds of toads everywhere, all over the road.

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your nose studs? I have a piercing here and a tattoo of a crested

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Newcastle United. Despite their reputation as pond dwellers toads

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prefer to spend most of their time on land. During the colder months

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they burrow deep into the ground and under compost, sheltering until

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the spring. But when they wake up there is just one thing on their

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mind. And that's making more toads. Toads

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can potentially live for up to 40 years and are very particular about

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where they spawn. Every year they come back to breed and the toads

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always come back to the pond they were born in. The frogs aren't

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particularly bothered but the toads always come back. There is quite a

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few here. Lots down here. Everyone is counciling into the pond, trying

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to find themselves a mate, and off they go. Quite a bit of a going on.

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Lots of action. They all come back. They want one thing and one thing

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only and they go into the lake straight away to get it. There are

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just two types of native toad in this country - the natterjack,

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which is extremely rare, and the common toad, which are the ones

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heading this way tonight. But despite being called common their

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numbers are in decline, so protecting them is all important.

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Preparations have been put in place. The road's been closed to traffic,

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and a small Army of volunteers are ready, armed with buckets and

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torches. The problem is the road is still open to local traffic.

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Although amphibians prefer to move about on wet nights, tonight has

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been mainly dry. But that hasn't stopped a few of them migrating. Do

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you have newts this there? Yes. They are so cute. They have an even

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harder job than the toads, because they have tiny legs. And they are

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Hart to see on the road. What have you got? Lovely. You found that in

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the road. Where are you going to put it? I found this one where I

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can easily put it across the road, so it can carry on down to the lake.

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I'm going to gently take it out and pop it there. And here we go.

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It is my first toad. Can I pick it up? Of course. Beautiful. Look at

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that lovely colouring And there's a car coming so I have savered that

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one from certain death. Last year the group of volunteers saved an

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estimated 4,500 amphibians and year on year they are saving more.

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What have you got in your bucket? What we cowl a down ler. That's one

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on top of the year. So there is the male on the back of the female. He

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is extraditely smaller. Is he going to hang on and get a free ride all

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the way down to the lake? He will, yes. Lazy. I know. I'm going to put

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them over here. And off they will go. The volunteers will usually

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stay to around midnight, when although there are still animals

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crossing, fewer cars are around. Anna and the rest of the team will

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be out here tomorrow night and the night after that. In fact every

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night for the next few weeks, Wonderful. It is not likely to win

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us see your character picking up toads and helping them across the

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road? He is very misunderstood. He is my hero. I always approach these

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characters as he is the hero of his own existence and to play them

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truthfully. Otherwise you become a cardboard cut-out. Last night he

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was interrupted before a cable crime. Tomorrow things get even

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nastier? We have an exclusive. Somebody grass, so I am doing a job

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on the cables. He thinks it is Christmas. We did not grass. He is

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watching me like a hawk. I am going to have to suspend activities.

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Whoever told on me is costing me a lot of money. Are you deaf? It was

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not us. You to never showed up. So I can be forgiven for assuming you

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are guilty. This what ever happens to those

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boys in the next couple of nights, I love them dearly. And for all of

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the young girls out there, I am only acting. Do you get hassle from

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the public? I'd get some wonderful reactions, I get told every day I

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am nasty and horrible. I just say thanks! It shows you are doing your

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job properly. You did play Bill Sykes in Roman Polanski's film.

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There you are. His Derrick brining and modern-day version of Bill

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Sykes? I have had some lines way you can bring that quality to it.

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You had Simon Callow on, and I listen to the radio and they are

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doing all these wonderful things about Dickens. I draw a lot on that.

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Talking about growing up, your dad, Freddie Foreman, and notorious

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criminal associated with the Krays. How much of his past the brink to

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your acting? It is more about the men, the way they move, the

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presence they have. That is what I draw on the most. Each one of them

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where individuals and they were difference. But for me it is about

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the physicality of the men. I love that side of them. My father is the

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real presence, even at his age. Has that kind of bearing about him.

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That is what I wanted to bring to my character. People have picked up

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on it and I am pleased with that. You never wanted to be a gangster,

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you always wanted to be an actor. And it was a former member of the

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cast who helped you? Lovely Barbara. I went to speak to my father about

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being an actor. He said go and see Barbara and get her advice. I went

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to see her, she was doing a pantomime. I stayed for the second

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showing and she said, he is hooked. She has been brilliant. My only

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regret of joining Eastenders is a time when she was not in it. We are

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having dinner next week. It is a different world, Eastenders to the

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actual films? I will be like anybody who thinks about Eastenders

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and they would be disparaging. It is the hardest work. It is a real

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learning curve. You are never to all to learn. Walford may be a

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hotbed of crime and double-dealing, but they have never found a

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emissions by, not yet. But they do have Dot Cotton! Yes, in the

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launderette. Gyles Brandreth has a story about the sweetest suburban

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spy who gave away most of our secrets.

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Suburbia, the embodiment of law of riding Britain, with the twitching

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net curtains on this street in Bexley Heath failed to notice the

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KGB's longer serving and perhaps most successful agent in the UK. In

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1999, Melita Norwood, and 87-year- old great-grandmother was revealed

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to the world's press as a Russian spy. She may have looked unassuming,

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but she was said to have played an important role in the cold war, and

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her eventual on asking was to show the British secret service in a

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very unfavourable light. Brought up in a communist household, she was

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recruited as a spy in the early 1930s by a friend of her mother's.

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She was just 21. At the time, she was working as a secretary for a

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Research Association, which from the end of the Second World War was

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at the forefront of developing Britain's nuclear deterrent and

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where she had access to sensitive documents. It was this access which

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was to make her one of the most important KGB operatives ever, in

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the UK. David Burke knew her well and interviewed her extensively

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after she was revealed as a spy. She was an ideological spy. She was

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an idealist. She did not do it for money. She did believe the Soviet

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Union had created a better society for ordinary people. She felt she

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was defending her ideals. What was her impact? She passed on

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information on the atomic bomb project we were working on with the

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Americans, which shortens the Soviet bomb project by at least

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five years. As a result, the Russians were able to catch up with

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the West's nuclear programme earlier than expected and detonated

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their first atomic bomb in 1949. America was no longer the nuclear

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power on the planet and the stalemate was created. I think her

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main contribution to history would be in preventing the Cold War from

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becoming a hot one. So this nondescript woman from Bexleyheath

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changed the course of world history? She certainly did.

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first time she came to the attention of the security services

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was in 1938. She was investigated several times, subsequently, but no

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evidence was found. In 1992, MI5's suspicions were confirmed when a

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KGB archivists defected. He brought with him six chunks of documents

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and buried within them was concrete proof of her spying. But still,

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nothing happened. It was after a further seven years when she was

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publicly revealed as a spy when the Freedom of Information Act brought

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the proved into the public domain. It was only then a prosecution was

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considered. All charges were dropped and many thought it was a

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cover up for the security services mistakes. Parliament, Intelligence

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and Security Committee investigated how the case was handled, looking

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at why nothing had handle -- happens when the information came

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to light. This MP sat on the committee. How did this woman get

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away with it was so long? Someone inside the security service,

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without consulting the Attorney- General, decided not to take the

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matter any further. When it got to 1999, and the matter became public,

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the then Attorney General concluded a court would regard this as an

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abuse of process to mount a case then, not taking contemporary as

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evidence which allowed a traitor to get away with it for half a century.

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So it was a cock-up, rather than conspiracy? Yes, more of a cock-up

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than conspiracy, it you will forgive the expression. Melita

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Norwood was the unassuming woman the papers dubbed, the Spy Who came

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In From the Kellock. And after the secret services miss their chance

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to prosecute, she remained free until her death in 2005.

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Come on Giles, but the paper down. Here I am. I am shaken, I am

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stirred, I am here. I am amazed to find spying is still going on. It

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did not end with the end of the Cold War. I have learned from MI5

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in this country, there are 20 foreign operations against his

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country, foreign espionage groups operating in this country. And the

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Russian and Chinese are principal among these. There are as many

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Russian spies working in the UK today as there were apparently, at

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the height of the Cold War. It is all going on. From all walks of

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life. Some look difference to our Melita Norwood? That is not

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necessarily the look nowadays. Anna Chapman, was discovered in America,

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a British citizen. She turns out to have been a real, a Russian spy.

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Married to a British citizen. She was on earth in a coffee shop in

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Manhattan. And with nine other sleeper spires from Russia, found

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all over the East Coast, she was what, only two years ago with four

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Western spies at work in Russia. It is all still going on. You don't

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know who you are sitting next to. It is interesting because that is

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the way they were recruited, tapping them on the shoulder?

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I worked in Oxford, the way they recruited spies... Were you ever

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approached? I cannot tell you. The teacher would tap you on the

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shoulder and say, "have you considered going into spying"? Now

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you can go on to the MI5 website! This afternoon they are potentially

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two new recruits. We did go through it, and we will put in a disclaimer.

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We were rushing through it. were rushing through its! It is a

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15 minute exercise, and you took it a real question mark I have the

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results. Out of a possible eight points, Alex you got for macro

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point. Not bad. Matthew, you also got four points. Possibly because

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you're looking over her shoulder. This is what MI5 absurd to make,

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makes you both the middle of the ground people. He made some good

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choices and should consider applying! The key is to appear

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average. This week, a bus company warned its drivers against using

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the words love, Darling and Babe to passengers. It seems a term of

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endearing can be an endearing. Matt Albright has been calling people

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names in the street.This, baby. Risley, don't call me baby.

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How are you my darling? Are you my lover? I just call and you Darling,

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sweetheart, do you mind that? mind that? I would rather have it

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than Madam. He did not swear, look up or anything. Can you cope with

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that? Yes. Would you like to be called Baby? You would actively

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liked it? You can call me they beat any time you like. You are happy if

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somebody uses those terms, Even if you have never met them? It is

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welcoming, someone is trying to get your attention. They are pleasantly

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calling you. Over your side, if I, the driver should call you or could

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call you that. And this side, is not acceptable. I shouldn't use

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that to you? It is OK? I will put that in the middle. Any don't like?

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I am not too keen on the word they'd all love. Love. Not

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These are inappropriate by a bus driver? Yes. You have turned my

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world upside down, literally. I am confused.

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