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Hello and welcome to your Monday The One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt

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Baker. Tonight's guests do not strike you as the kind of people who

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go out of their way to visit the Shire Horse Museum and the Living

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Museum of the North. But according to them and they almost certainly

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are. Please welcome Steve Punt and Hugh Dennis. Great to see you. What

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is it with this must see list of museums? When you tour you have a

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lot of free time and we pick out museums and go to them during the

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day. They are not the weirdest. What is the weirdest? Barometer world.

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Where is it? I cannot remember where it is. It is in Devon. Also the lawn

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mower Museum. That is good. And the pencil Museum. We will continue this

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conversation as we go through the show. You can suggest one. But now

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as the search of the scene of Friday night's helicopter crash continues,

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messages of support from around the world have poured in. Earlier today

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Glasgow City Council opened its book of condolences.

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For most Glaswegians the events of Friday night have not yet sunk in.

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At the Glasgow city Chambers they have opened a book of condolence and

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it is providing people with a focal point and a way of showing their

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respect. Glasgow is Scotland's greatest city, but it is still a

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village. I, like many others, have been deeply affected by what has

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happened. So many people have already signed the book. Everybody

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cares for everybody else and that was shown by the behaviour of people

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on Friday night. I was struck in the media coverage by how people felt.

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It is to show we are all part of this, really. It has been upsetting

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since I heard the news. I have just come from where people are standing

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paying their respects with great sadness, but a healthy heart. My

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Scottish roots are very deep. I felt it was important to let the Scottish

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people know that people from all over the world are mourning this

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loss as well. Our sympathies go out to not just those directly affected,

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but to all the people of Glasgow and Scotland. Watching television in

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recent days you feel, God help these people who have lost relatives and

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friends. I am thinking of those who have lost relatives and friends. In

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this city you see the true spirit of the people. I was out on Friday

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night and it can touch anybody. It is so sad. We want to let everybody

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know we are thinking of them. Nothing prepares you for a

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catastrophe like this. Not in a million years do you think anything

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like this could happen. I feel like I should do something. When you go

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down you feel the sadness. A police officer was crying. It is one of

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these events where you will remember where you were. In years from now

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when that book is read, it is what people felt at the time. For some of

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us to be able to express what so many want to express, which is

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condolence, for those who were buried, it is pride. Our thoughts

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are with all of those. Lucy joins us now. Do we have any more details as

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to what the helicopter was doing? We know the helicopter and the support

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crew were scrambled to attend a call that came in around 8:20pm off

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trespassers on the railway line. They were only about two miles away

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from their base and they were attending this routine operation

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which tragically turned out to be anything but routine.

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Are we any clearer about the calls? Not really, we have to be careful

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not to speculate. But the Air Accidents Investigation Branch world

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peace through the wreckage and sift through all the eyewitness reports

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to try and work out what has happened. They have confirmed the

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helicopter did not have a flight data recorder, however the

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helicopter has been described as very sophisticated by a number of

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experts, so it is full of modern electronic systems which may contain

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data which they will hopefully be able to piece together. It was a

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twin engine helicopter, so it could have operated on one engine. We also

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know there was no Mayday signal received. That is what we know at

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the moment. This is a very popular model of helicopter. There are about

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1000 in service around the world with ambulance and police services

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around the world. It is very popular and sophisticated. But this

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helicopter has been tested before and has crashed before now? There

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were reports in France in July of a crack in the same model and after

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that this helicopter underwent intensive investigation, but it was

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declared safe for routine operations. There was a crash about

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six years ago in Essex where the pilot and his wife escaped. The

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model before that crashed about a decade ago. It was intensely

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investigated and declared fit. And this helicopter has been taken

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to find borough. Security at home is something most

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people take very seriously. When you leave the house you lock up, put the

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light on and set the alarm. But would you pay so much attention to

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security if you were staying in and expecting visitors. If you are

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selling your house, maybe you should. This ?400,000 home in

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Darlington had been on sale for three months. When the estate agent

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rang to say there were cash buyers interested, the owner Janet Bland

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was very excited. They seemed really keen on the house and they were

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making all the right noises, saying how nice they thought the house

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was. They were here for the day. I felt quite comfortable with them.

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But what Janet did not realise is this couple had no intention of

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buying the house. They called themselves Mr and Mrs Bent and they

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were not there to buy, they were there to steal. She steered me

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towards the lounge to discuss the fire and she took me away and he

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could then go and wander around the house on his own without me knowing.

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Somebody is looking at your house and you let them, don't you? You

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think you are going to get a sale, so you want them to look around. And

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in Janet's house look around they did and they hit the jackpot getting

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away with precious jewellery worth ?5,000. My diamond ring and a

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necklace had been taken. It was things my late husband had bought

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for me which I was keeping for my daughter. It was of sentimental

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value and could not be replaced. It seems Janet's house was not the only

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one being targeted. There were other victims with very similar stories

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about a couple of suspicious house-buyers. My initial thought was

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it was the same people who had done this. We needed to find out who they

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were. The other victims were able to help even though the couple gave

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false names. One thing was consistent, the description of their

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van. It was a crucial league for the police who started looking back at

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CCTV. There are lots of cameras around and we were able to identify

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the registration number of the vehicle. The van had been registered

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in their real names. The police finally knew who they were. Karen

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Coombs and James Patterson. Now the couple had been identified

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detectives needed to find them and the next breakthrough, they used the

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same mobile telephone to call the estate agents. The use of the

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telephone was vital because we have the Trail of the call data from the

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mobile phone providers showing the calls to a particular estate agent.

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Checking the telephone led police to this CCTV showing James Patterson

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topping up the mobile in a shop in Darlington. The evidence was

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mounting and the police were closing in. The crooks were finally caught

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when they were spotted by traffic officers. When police searched the

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van they found this, the couple's that naff, and on it they found the

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addresses of the homes that had been burgled and the true scale of their

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crimes was uncovered. And they had been on some road trip. They had

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travelled the length and breadth of England, targeting 38 homes and

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stealing ?20,000 worth of jewellery. They were eventually found guilty of

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conspiracy to commit burglary. It was a massive breach of trust. It

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was a callous way to click their way into people's houses. They still

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items of sentimental value that were not replaceable. The good news is

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they now have somewhere to call home, prison. Between them they were

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sentenced to six years and eight months for their crimes.

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So brazen. Unbelievable. I cannot believe they called themselves Mr

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and Mrs Bent. You said you were burgled 13 times. Looe I lived in a

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vicarage, my dad was a vicar, and they attract burglars. It was ten

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times in 13 years or 13 times in ten years, but we had nothing worth

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stealing. The last time we were burgled, when I was 12, the day

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before I got a new school uniform and all they stole was about six

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pairs of my pants. They went through the entire house. What was missing?

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My pants. Weren't a nice? They were white. They are important for PE. It

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is time to look back at the financial news of the 3rd of

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October, 1990, as presented by you in your very first TV outing

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together. What happened in the market today? I got some dodgy

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assets for ?1 99. Wolseley and British Gas is a late kick-off.

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Shares slipped back when supply figures were released. It was

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because of the menu in the canteen. Dealers were sent into panic

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selling. Nothing has really changed. I am doing an impression of Eric

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idle and he is doing an impression of Ronnie Barker. That was from

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1990, but today's financial news is that people are spending ?900,000

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online shopping up to Christmas. Are you buying each other stuff? I am

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not sure we have bought each other anything. I have bought is six pairs

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of pants. That happened when I was 12. Not even a coffee at the

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barometer museum? I bought him a bottle of champagne once. We do not

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do Christmas. We are blokes. You are back on tour and it is Ploughing On

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Regardless. What are you Ploughing On Regardless of? Fashion, style,

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age, love. Is this a standard tour, and idea sketches? Byes, but we have

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not finished writing it yet. You looked a bit vague. I hope we have a

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finished show. We do not start until January. You can only really develop

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comedy in front of an audience. You cannot do a show sitting down. You

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do not know what works. You have to go in freestyle for the first show?

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And hopefully you get rid of some bits and it tightens. You are not

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doing a DVD. Are you nuts? Who told you that? If you do, you can come

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back. Maybe we should. You have worked together for so long and you

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can just go with the flow, but did it always used to be like that? We

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had a reputation for not changing our material enough. David Baddiel

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once had a go at us. To be fair, he was right. When we started, we

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started in clubs. We used to do the comedy clubs. If you did the

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midnight show you did not get on until two o'clock in the morning. We

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tried to develop a heckle proof show which left no gaps at all. I had a

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big bag of hats. Steve would do a story and I played all the

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characters and I had to dive in and do this. It was very structured. We

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used to add little bits now and then. Since then we have learnt that

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actually, you can write stuff about almost anything. When the news

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throws stuff at you for you find yourself writing things a couple of

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days before you would have thought, we cannot do that, but you can't

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talk about almost anything. Lester wants to keep him but others

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say the City of York should Richard III. He is looking good! While at

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legal wrangle carries on, Cerys Matthews uncovers the tragic story

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behind the painting of his nephews. Innocent, angelic and afraid. When

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melee created the painting, he was telling a tragic story of two young

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royals and the enigmatic figure, Richard III. When King Edward IV

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died in 1483 he left behind two young sons. The errors to the throne

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were placed under the protection of their uncle, Richard, and brought to

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the tower of London. Soon after they were declared illegitimate, Richard

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became king and the boys disappeared. Rumours spread that

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they had been murdered Richard's orders. Art historian Laura

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McCulloch has studied the painting which shows boys waiting in fear for

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their assassin to arrive. Millais deliberately chooses the most magic

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moment, when we know the boys are going to be murdered but they do

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not. They are just waiting, knowing something bad is about to happen.

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Now we are not sure if they were killed. The Victorians certainly

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believed that their villainous uncle had had their murdered. I love the

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fact that their hands are clasp together. Almost 200 years after the

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Princes' disappearance, work men made a discovery of the skeletons of

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two children. We do not know for certain if the remains are the two

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princes but it was widely believed they were at Millais used the

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details of the discovery in his painting. He shows them a black

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velvet. They believed when the bones were dug up the velvet was clinging

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to it. Who is this shadowy figure coming down the staircase? We think

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it is one of Richard's men. That is what the Victorians believed. He is

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faceless. That is part of the psychological drama. It is

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incredible that one painting can tell this story. Are they a true

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likeness to the Princes? Millais would not have known what they look

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like. He was painting 400 years afterwards. Like many artists,

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Millais used models. Who were these two boys who posed as the Princes?

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Peter Davies has carried out lots of research and he believes they were

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his great uncle Eddie and his grandad, Percy. He wants to compare

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photographs of his relatives with the original painting at Royal

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Holloway University of London. You have not seen the original before?

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Element I have not seen it ever. -- I have not seen it ever. , that is

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fantastic. It is so much bigger and brighter and more alive than I

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thought it would be. That is my grandfather, Percy. Do you break it

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may seem? I do, the facial features are striking. That is a painting of

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my family. That is Percy on the left. You can really see the nose,

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can't you? And that is Edward, a cheeky chap. You can see the nose.

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Millais's son told a story about how my great grandmother took the boys

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to Millais and he was struck by them, and he immediately started

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painting them the next day. The story was he could never look at it

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afterwards without feeling annoyed because he was always reminded of

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the crunch of sweets under his feet. The boys were constantly eating them

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during the painting. In contrast to the Royals, Peter's relatives lived

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long, fulfilling lives, both becoming headmasters. Whatever

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happened to the last princes, in Millais's painting they remain

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frozen in time, clinging to each other as the shadowy figure of the

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assassin approaches. Similar hairdo to mine! Rumours are

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rife about what happened? We do not know much, which is why it is one of

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the greatest mysteries in our history. While the young princes

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were still around, they were a threat so Richard III put them in

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the Tower. After the summer of 1483, they were not seen again. If

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you put two comedians in a tower and they disappeared there would be

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rumours, but when it is princes, rumours abounded. Have the rumours

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become fact? After Richard III was defeated, Henry Tudor took to the

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throne. There was lots of rumour and it then became accepted fact.

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Shakespeare then cements the story. Let's assume he is a nice guy for a

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moment. What if they east gate? -- escaped. There is no proof. There is

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a bricklayer theory. There is one that Edward dies quite young but

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Richard escapes, goes to live with his mother and has to keep his head

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down so becomes a bricklayer. There was a Richard Plantagenet in Essex

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who could speak and read Latin, which is intriguing, so there might

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be something in it. Is that not all that he had the same name and date

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with his mother? I guess it was a double bluff. There is also a doctor

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who claimed that both were smuggled out and that Richard became a

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doctor. -- there are also a story which claims that. Also, there is

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the impersonator story. One guy claimed to be a few different

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people, so he probably had form. Another guy called Perkin wore back

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could have been. The boy's aren't said it was him but Henry VII hanged

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him. -- the boy's aren't. There is a Scottish loch with

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something stored beneath its -- something strange beneath its

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surface. Loch Creran on the West coast of Scotland hides a beautiful

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secret. Beneath these chilly waters lies the spectacular and colourful

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reef. It is one of the most important habitats in Europe. The

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living reef below these waters is not made up of coral, but

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circulates, which are a type of Chiba. -- chewed worm. They are

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widely distributed. There are some localised spots where damage has

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been caused by fishing. Now it is a special area of conservation. So the

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future is right? -- right? Yes. The reefs can only survive in certain

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areas and they have to have the right environmental conditions.

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Fresh water pours in from the mountains, but just behind me at the

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entrance, it is sea water. The sea water rushing backwards and forwards

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brings plenty of plankton. The abundance of food makes this spot

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the best place to get in, dive down and see them. Cerpulids are not

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plans so they do not need like to survive but the food they eat does.

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I am only heading down ten metres. These worms need a solid base and

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most of the sea bed is covered in a muddy bottom. That is not what they

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need. If you go a few metres you have got this always is. And then

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they disappear. This is a reaction to movements in the water around

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them. This quick reaction is their defence from predators. Each of

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these has a little trapdoor. They are so successful they do not have

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any predators in the lock, that is why they are thriving. If I wait

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patiently, hopefully they will come out. For the worm, this is home. But

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whilst inside they cannot eat so I am hoping the hunger will entice

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them to appear. Here they come. That is beautiful. The colours are

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exquisite. They may look like flowers bursting from their buds but

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actually, they are animals coming out to feed. It is thought that each

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individual worm can detect when its neighbour has come back out. Speeded

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up, it is easy to see them appearing in a chain reaction. This one has

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really caught my eye. It is a lot higher than its neighbours. They are

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filter feeders, they will feed on anything floating past. They are in

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competition with each other so there is a real incentive to grow taller

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and higher than the rest. Not only are these creatures stunningly

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beautiful, but these reefs are crucial to the lock's -- to the

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loch's biodiversity. They provide a unique habitat in a featureless

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loch. These worms only grow at about three centimetres a year. It will

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take them time to regain ground they have lost due to man's inadvertent

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activities. I hope now that the area is protected these beautiful

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creatures and the habitat they produce has at least got a chance.

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Gorgeous, isn't it? Barometer World have been in contact. It is

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north-west of Okehampton. Listen to this, this is wonderful. We went to

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Chainsaw World. Then we went to Simon World -- Salmon World, where

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we did not take photos. Is there a new series of Outnumbered? Its start

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in January. -- it starts in January. You have got a busy month, get

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writing! No, we have already filmed it. 10th January. -- 10th January.

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