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Hello and welcome to

The One Show with Matt Baker.

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And Angela Scanlon.

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And tonight, we're joined

by two guests who've

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hung up their headphones

to explore pastures new.

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From producing beats to producing

books, it is super dope musician and

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tech wizards will.i.am.

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APPLAUSE

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And taking a break from Radio 2

to take on an epic sporting

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challenge, it's DJ and presenter Zoe

Ball!

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APPLAUSE

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Welcome to you both. If you don't

mind me asking, Will, it is a big

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night for my family because my age

old daughter is performing on stage

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with her friends and they are

singing in a big quieter night. I

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was wondering if you might have any

words of wisdom more tips on

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performing for an eight-year-old?

Performing for an eight-year-old?

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Yeah.

Doing The Voice for kids,

eight-year-olds are much braver than

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we give them credit for.

True.

The

12-year-olds get emotional.

OK.

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Eight years old, go for gold.

Stay

with it.

The more you encourage

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them, "You're going to do great

today and so is your whole squad of

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age old".

There you go.

Squad!

On

behalf of Molly and her friends,

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thank you.

Her squad! We have lots

to talk about with our wonderful

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guests so let's crack on.

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Because tomorrow is

Safer Internet Day -

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a day designed to promote

the positive use of digital

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technology by children

and young people.

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Zoe, you have two children -

what have you said to them

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Zoe, you have two children.

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We were talking about it on the way

up, how we feel like dinosaurs.

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There's a lot of positives but how

do you address the negative side,

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your concerns and their reactions?

Keeping them safe, I had it more

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with Woody because as Nell grows up,

we're getting the hang of it -- hang

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of it. I'm a technophobe, I like a

typewriter and a notepad and vinyl.

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We'll could teach me a thing or two.

It is quite hard to know you are

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keeping them safe, like what is it?

A firewall? Now all my son wants to

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do is Snapchat when I'm looking

terrible, making pasta and doing be

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hoovering. I'm more worried about my

safety!

You are embracing it. Maggie

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Lieu I am but it is worrying as a

parent, how to keep them safe. --

I

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am but it is worrying as a parent,

how to keep them safe.

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In a moment we're going to be

showing you a short film

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which highlights a few of the best -

and the nastiest -

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comments children have

read on social media,

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and some of it is hard to hear.

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We will get your thoughts on this in

a moment.

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This piece was made

to launch "Own It" -

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the BBC's new website aimed

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at helping young people stay happy,

healthy and safe online.

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And this will give you an idea

why it's needed...

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A few of them are just pretty nasty.

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"I like your hair".

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Oh, thanks!

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I have a new haircut now.

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Your brows are literally goals.

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Hashtag on fleek.

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It's a really nice comment

for a girl to have so if someone

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tells you you have goals eyebrows,

it is like, wow.

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"I love you, you

brighten up my day".

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"Your YouTube channel is rubbish

and you should delete it".

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"Literally no one wants

you around or loves you".

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Hmm, that's not nice.

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"You have no friends

and nobody cares about you.

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You're just annoying".

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"Do you know what?

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Nobody likes you,

nobody even needs you.

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Nobody even cares about

what you think what you want

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and you care about".

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That one's probably

the worst one I've read.

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"Do the world a favour

and kill yourself".

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"Kill yourself, gay boy.

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You are worthless".

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They are just...

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Such horrible things

to have and to receive.

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"You're ugly.

Everyone hates you".

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That's...

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I don't know what to say to that.

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It's important to, like,

focus on the good things in life.

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Bad things will always be

there to push us down but we have

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to get up and we have

to keep on going.

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"I'll be there.

Don't worry".

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That one gives you a boost,

that someone is looking out

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for you and for you.

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for you and caring for you.

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"You're so beautiful and strong.

Keep your chin up, honey".

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You should use social media to be

nice to people, to be kind,

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to have a bit of a laugh,

to have banter with your friends

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but never anything hurtful

like the messages in there.

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Very difficult to watch for everyone

I'm sure at home as well. Will, when

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technology is something you love,

that you are passionate about, that

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can do a lot of good but when you

see and hear stories about people

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using it for harmful reasons, what

do you think about that? What do you

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think about those people?

You know

when you watch films like Wild Wild

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West and you see things like bar

fights and people doing mean things

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to women and behaving in an

civilised way, that is where we are

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with social media and technology. We

are not civilised. We say the most

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harmful things, we are inhumane. And

it's just adolescents, right? So if

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you think of the stage that we are

in with the Internet, it is not 30

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years old, it is not 20 years old,

especially the iPhone and social

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media as we know it is not... It is

teenagers. Me being an optimist, I

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know that we are going to see a

different form of this.

Yeah.

It is

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a phase.

It is like the generation

that we are our guinea pigs with it

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and it will, for us it is tough but

it will change for those in the

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future.

Finding the boundaries.

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BBC Own It is a new service

for nine-to-12-year-olds,

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packed with tips, videos and quizzes

to help keep them safe online.

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For more info, take a look

at bbc.co.uk/ownit.

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We'll's new novel, Wizards And

Robots, is out now, aimed at the

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audience we have been talking about.

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Let's bring your writing partner

Brian David Johnson in to join us.

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APPLAUSE

You have put this together,

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together, and you've kind of

described it as Harry Potter meets

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the terminator but how do you want

to sell this? Who wants to start?

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Terminator is harsh.

But good!

It is

Harry Potter meets robotics. But not

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a bad robot.

That was the idea, to

make a young adult novel that is

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action packed, that has a female

engineer at the centre. It's about

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an epic battle between wizards and

robots but it's always about people

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and very optimistic because we're

both optimists.

How did you meet

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because your day job is a futurist?

First, what is that?

I don't make

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predictions, there is no crystal

ball or anything like that, I worked

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ten years out with organisations to

look ten years out and model the

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positive and negative features and

then work with out what you need to

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do today, tomorrow, five years from

now to go towards the positive and

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away from the negative.

And in

music, we work years out, writing

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songs, anticipating how people will

react to them. Brian and I were

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working at Intel, and sat in think

tanks on how they can bring

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technology to culture and while we

were having brainstorming sessions,

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I went off in imagination and and

came back with, "Brian, I got a

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phone call, I have this idea...

Wizard and robots can imagine

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there's a robot civilisation that

has problems they can't solve and

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when we can't solve problems, we

pray so if robots had to break, it

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would be to us and if they had time

travel, which version of humanity

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would they go to? They would go to

the version where they could

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manipulate particles, which is

wizards"

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manipulate particles, which is

wizards". Let's write this!

How did

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that relationship work with the

writing? Set the scene for the

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writing side.

What would happen is,

we got the phone call saying, "We

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need to do this". I got the plane

and went down and we basically sat

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in Will's living room on Halloween

and mapped the thing out so as we

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went through and do the writing, we

would either hang out at his house

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or we were travelling in different

cities, like Las Vegas or Seoul and

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we would work together I was

reminding you today, I have a

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picture where we were thinking about

the particle physics and how it

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might work because the magic is

based on particle physics and I have

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pictures of Will working out spells

using pistachio shells. You can just

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see his hands. It was mad, from a

collaboration standpoint, it would

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not have been more fun.

And it is

six years in the making, we started

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the project six years ago, we had

different iterations from it -- of

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it, we went to ComicCon in 2014

because we have this object that has

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all of the science on spells, the

science on robotics and time travel,

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and, you know, the lingua franca.

We

made up languages for the book.

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Pretty deep.

So six years is pretty

decent in the grand scheme of

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things.

Most people don't have

patience to see things through for a

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week let alone six years!

Basically

looking ahead into the future, do

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people like it?

Yes!

It's a

bestseller.

They love the third

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version. We have not even past the

second version, it is amazing.

I

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remember doing the voice when I was

on the phone, I was writing with

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Brian.

Two jobs! And AI features

heavily in it but you have spoken

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about the kind of threat of

artificial intelligence.

Know,

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people have spoken on the threat of

artificial intelligence.

You don't

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think it is a threat?

I have a

company that created an AI so I

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would not have started the company

if I thought it was a thread.

So we

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are good to go with AI?

Artificial

intelligence is a very Bay, broad...

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Spell-check is a version of

artificial intelligence, your phone

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making doggies with a selfie is some

form of artificial intelligence but

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our AI is a conversational voice

operating system and it is used in

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Germany for customer service, to

augment a customer service agent to

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make their job easier.

Robots going

to kill us is the answer I want you

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to give. Are we safe?

I know the

answer but you can go first.

When

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you fly in an aeroplane, it is

really a robot.

OK. Maggie Lieu nine

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times out of ten, the pilot is

not... Autopilot and all the

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gyroscopes and things helping them

to fly, and when you get in a Uber

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five years from now that is

automated, that is a robot.

My

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question is do you want the robots

do not kill you?

Ideally not.

So

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let's design them that way, they

don't get to decide, we do and that

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is the idea of the future in the

book, giving people turn to future

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is where we can have a good Russian

ship and robots are designed to help

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take care of us.

More of all of

that. Wizards And Robots is out now.

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Brian, I'm going to have to get your

number because that is

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number because that is the first

time I have felt safe about the

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future!

He's afraid of Twitter.

The

same thing happened with

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electricity, " is it going to fry

us? We are happy with candles!"

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We're taking you right

back to the future now.

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According to Nasa, the amount of CO2

in our atmosphere is the highest

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it's been in the last 400,000 years

and it's expected to get a whole

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lot worse.

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Which is where futuristic forests

like this one come in...

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I'm walking through an old oak

forest but not everything is as it

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seems because the air I'm breathing

is an exact replica of the air my

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grandchildren will be breathing when

they are my age. This isn't a

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forest. It is a living laboratory of

the future.

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In this 50 acre woodland in

Staffordshire, scientists are

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pumping waste carbon dioxide

harvested from nearby factories

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through these huge steel structures

to replicate the levels predicted to

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be in the atmosphere in 50-70 years'

time. We are four months into this

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ground-breaking ten year study which

will allow scientists like Rob

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Mackenzie to understand how

increased emissions will affect the

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kind of forests we have in the UK.

Rob, like me, I'm sure you think

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that woodlands and forests are the

most important habitats on the

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planet.

I couldn't agree more,

George, they are fantastic. About

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one in every three molecules of

carbon dioxide we release into the

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atmosphere from fossil fuel burning

and from land-use change is drawn

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down into forested landscapes like

this. What a fantastic free gift the

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forests are giving us.

With carbon

dioxide levels rising at about 40%

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since the Industrial Revolution, and

predicted to continue to rise, Rob's

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experiment is designed to see if the

gift can keep on giving. By

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increasing levels of carbon dioxide,

Rob has turned this forest into a

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study site. To fully appreciate the

ecosystem of an oak tree, you have

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to get to the canopy. So we've

brought a specialist rope access

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team with us. It's at times like

this when you wish you had lost a

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bit of weight! Ready to rock.

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After just four months, we aren't

expecting much to have changed. But

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for Rob, it is the first view of his

project from the sharp end.

I'm

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absolutely astonished and bowled

over.

I am of course very keen on

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insects, as I'm sure everybody knows

and thereafter an thing like 425

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different species of insect who call

oak trees home. -- there are

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something like. Either for food or

shelter. So I can't resist getting

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out my net to see what is here. Oh,

well, OK, that is not bad. Let's

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have a look. Oh, that is a nice

weevil. Masses of spiders. Lots of

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spiders.

Yes.

We have about 25

species in here, just in that little

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tiny sweet, flies, plant hoppers, a

rather nice sap sucking bug which

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like lots of bugs, uses a very

slender beak to suck fluids out of

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the tree. Everything that lives on

or in an oak tree like this creates

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a stable ecosystem. Increased levels

of carbon dioxide could upset the

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balance and even affect how much the

tree can absorb. It is something

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computer modelling can't tell us but

Rob's experiment will come up to 50

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years before it happened surreal. --

will, up to 50 years. George pushing

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himself to the limit for science!

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It's time to talk Sport Relief now -

because the countdown is on!

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The week-long extravaganza kicks off

on the 17th of March,

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so not long for you to get training,

Zoe?!

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Clammy palms at the very mention of

sport!

Other clammy areas by the

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time you get off...

You have been in

training for something and for those

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that were not listening to the radio

this morning, enlighten us.

I've

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been talked into taking part in a

challenge for Sport Relief this

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year, from the 17th-23rd, which is

when it runs and it involves a

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bicycle. I'm doing the BT Sport

relief cycle challenge. I've been on

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a shopping bike and the BMX and the

beach cruiser. I've never been on a

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bicycle with cleats and if you've

never done it, it is terrifying!

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What are cleats for people who don't

know what they are?

When you see

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cyclist zooming past and you like,

"What are you wearing?" It is the

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attachment which puts your feet

against the pedals so it helps you

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with speed.

It helps you pull up and

pushed down.

These are the things

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I'm learning and it is terrifying

when you stop in traffic and you

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can't get them off as I did the

other day in the middle of Ditchling

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Village, having done 22 miles, got

in, could not get them off and I

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fell slowly onto the ground and a

very nice postman helped me up. It

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was so embarrassing and I've had a

few of those.

This is not just about

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keeping your feet in the pedals

because you've got miles to do so

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how far will you be going?

I can't

tell you at the moment because I

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think they are afraid to tell me, it

is over days.

Over days? Oh, wow.

Do

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you cycle?

I do but not over days.

I

think I get to sleep in a hotel but

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maybe at the sight of a road in a

tent, who knows? I will be stopping

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at some point.

Actually, make sure

you have got a bath wherever you are

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staying.

Does it have to be a cold

bath?

No.

Thank God.

You had other

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tips.

I've got lots, and honestly,

face creams are lots are available

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at Elizabeth Arden eight hour cream

for the bottom.

Is it chaffing?

That

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stuff is amazing.

I've been

recommended, Louise said Vaseline,

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you are telling me something

different.

Do you have to wear the

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shorts with the...?

Yes, you put

them on and you feel like you're

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wearing a nappy initially and it is

strange but I am grateful the

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padding! There is nothing on me,

believe me!

In all seriousness, you

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are putting the effort in for a very

good cause.

I am, one of the issues

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Sport Relief is supporting this year

is mental health which is something

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very close to my heart because I

think a lot of people know actually

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that my boyfriend struggled with

depression and he died last year,

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Billy, he worked on this show and I

know you dedicated the programme to

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him when he died. After he died I

was left with lots of questions and

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I do believe that it is one in four

of us in the UK are living with

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mental illness. Those figures are

huge. Most people you meet will have

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been touched by this subject. It is

interesting listening to Brian

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talking about the future you know,

mental health resources are under

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huge pressure and I think a lot of

people are not necessarily getting

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the right help as quickly as they

could. We are making a documentary

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as well as doing the challenge. I'm

going to visit some projects that

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are funded by Comic Relief that are

helping people find a way to move

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forward and hopefully meet some

families who have gone through what

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myself and Billy's family have gone

through and ask the questions about

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what we are doing, how we are

helping and where can we turn for

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help and what should loved ones be

doing if they are trying to look

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after someone who is living with

mental health, and when we talk

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about mental health, it's

depression, anxiety, cellphone,

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bullying, we saw those children

talking earlier about online

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bullying, bereavement. There's a lot

of subjects here. I'm hoping I can

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go out and visit the projects and

see the work that is being done and

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encourage people to get involved and

that is why I'm doing it.

There's no

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doubt about it, everyone is right

behind you. APPLAUSE

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Alex will be doing what she calls

the mother of all challenges and she

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will tell us about that when she

comes back.

And the wonderful Greg

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is trying to do five triathlons in

five days or something like that. I

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saw him in cycling shorts being

stretched out on a mass ash bed, a

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long massage bed! And he was giving

me some top tips -- ma

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massage bed. We are encouraging

people at home to get involved and a

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big thing is we want the nation to

help beat 1 billion steps per day

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for the week of Sport

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for the week of Sport Relief, so you

can get involved.

Brilliant, thank

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you. Good luck with the rest of the

training. And everyone will be right

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with you, Zoe.

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Tomorrow marks 100 years

since the first women in the UK

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were given the vote.

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It wasn't across

the board of course.

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It took another ten years

for all women to be afforded

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that democratic right.

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But it was a huge victory -

and a hard fought one at that.

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In just a moment

journalist Anita Anand will be

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here with the story of India's

trailblazing suffragette princess.

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First, though, we wanted to gauge

how far our understanding of gender

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inequality has come...

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Where does the UK ranked in the

world for parliamentary gender

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equality?

Top ten, seven?

Two.

57.

The world's a big place, isn't it?

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Wow! That is shocking, it needs to

be improved.

It is just a

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discrimination that has gone on

throughout the ages.

What percentage

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of banknotes around the world

feature women's faces?

60.

That is

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appalling. We need to get some more

money printed, that's what I'd say!

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What percentage of registered GP

doctors are women?

68.

28%.

Well,

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that's brilliant.

I know, you know,

a lot of women are training in that

0:23:580:24:05

direction...

Why don't you think it

is equal?

That is so great.

There

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has was been a tendency for women to

go into the caring professions.

34%.

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15%.

It should be about 40%, 40-50,

shouldn't it?

Wow. You have to be a

0:24:230:24:31

certain type of women to try to beat

that, a stereotype mould, that

0:24:310:24:36

identity thing.

I think it is

perhaps a stereotypical attitude in

0:24:360:24:41

certain jobs and what your

expectation should be.

What

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percentage of main streets in major

cities are named after women?

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cities are named after women?

55%,

10%,

10%.

I wonder where they all

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are!

I think we all know the women

have not been recognised for a lot

0:24:540:25:00

of things they have done.

Things

that are worth a

0:25:000:25:09

that are worth a plaque.

I think

there are a lot of women who should

0:25:090:25:13

be celebrated.

Women have been

marginalised.

So many women have

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done powerful things throughout

history to change things, for women,

0:25:170:25:20

and we should celebrate that.

Personally I have never come across

0:25:200:25:23

a female name, and I have lived here

my whole life.

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STUDIO:

Over the next few days,

we're going to be meeting a whole

0:25:320:25:35

raft of inspirational women -

women with extraordinary stories

0:25:350:25:38

who've paved the way

for the rest of us.

0:25:380:25:40

And here with the story of someone

who was instrumental in changing

0:25:400:25:43

attitudes towards equality back

in the early 1900s is journalist

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and author Anita Anand.

0:25:450:25:46

Welcome, Anita.

Thank you for being

here.

0:25:460:25:47

Anita, you've worked hard to bring

Sophia Duleep Singh's story

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to a wider audience.

0:25:500:25:55

I am the accidental author, you can

call me. I never meant to write a

0:25:550:25:59

book. I just came across this image,

which you can see, and it just

0:25:590:26:12

which you can see, and it just said

Suffragette selling newspaper

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outside Hampton Court, and I

wondered why I didn't know about

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her, and I thought, is she Asian?

I'm Asian. It became a five-year

0:26:170:26:27

obsession to uncover one of the most

extraordinary lives I have come

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across. A princess, a Maharaja,

goddaughter to Queen Victoria, the

0:26:300:26:37

Kim Kardashian of her day, fighting

with police for the vote, for women.

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Why did she do that? Should put a

lot on the line, didn't she? Because

0:26:430:26:49

she was incredibly privileged.

She

was so privileged. All the doors of

0:26:490:26:53

aristocracy were open to her. She

had such high status. For the first

0:26:530:26:57

half of her life I think she was

pretty pointless, she just loved a

0:26:570:27:00

good party. But she goes on this

banned visit to India and her father

0:27:000:27:07

was the last Maharaja of the Punjab,

had his Kingdom seized as a small

0:27:070:27:14

boy by the British, and she is a

British Asian, and she goes to India

0:27:140:27:19

on this banned trip and for the

first time she sees racism and

0:27:190:27:22

poverty, and for the first time

through her sister she explains the

0:27:220:27:25

terrible inequality of women. She

was safe from it but her sister was

0:27:250:27:29

a medical student in Chicago and one

year before she qualifies to be a

0:27:290:27:33

doctor if they decide women are too

hysterical so they pull the course,

0:27:330:27:36

and her other sister is in love with

her governess, living this sort of

0:27:360:27:41

lesbian lifestyle, in Germany,

0:27:410:27:52

because she can't do it here, and

she comes back from this trip filled

0:27:540:27:57

with rage, this has got to change.

This voice going on in India, the

0:27:570:27:59

Nationalists they are seeing, give

us a voice, and she comes to

0:27:590:28:02

England. She sees and hears that

coming out of the mouths of the

0:28:020:28:04

suffragettes, give us a voice, and

she dedicates everything to the

0:28:040:28:06

cause.

Everybody at the moment is

looking into their own work as far

0:28:060:28:09

as inequality is concerned. How do

you feel about the music industry at

0:28:090:28:12

the moment and where that is sitting

as far as inequality is concerned?

0:28:120:28:15

For me, you would get some of these

music videos, and you think, you

0:28:150:28:18

know, my eight -year-old, I don't

know if I necessarily want her to be

0:28:180:28:23

watching them!

That has been going

on for ever, from speak easy is,

0:28:230:28:33

cotton clubs, sex, drugs and rock

and roll, and it is just a

0:28:330:28:37

reflection of society. To see the

music industry is the culprit,

0:28:370:28:41

really the music industry is a

mirror and it reflects, you know,

0:28:410:28:46

the ills of the world. You have good

and bad music, optimistic and

0:28:460:28:51

pessimistic music, music for

self-help, music for intoxication

0:28:510:28:55

and indulging and, you know,

behaviour we shouldn't do, so the

0:28:550:29:01

music industry is just a mirror on

society.

OK, well, the good news is

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she is on a stamp!

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And so thrilled to be doing this.

This woman who through herself at

0:29:130:29:18

the Prime Minister's car, led a

riot, thought physically, wouldn't

0:29:180:29:20

pay the taxes, she is on a stamp,

and King George V hated her, Winston

0:29:200:29:26

Churchill hated her, and this is the

queen of England looking on her.

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Well, we will put a stamp on that

because that is all we have time

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for. Big thank you to our guests!

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That's it for tonight -

thanks to all of our guests.

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