06/02/2018 The One Show

Hello and welcome to

The One Show with Alex Jones.

And Matt Baker.

On the day that marks 100 years

since the first women in the UK

won the right to vote,

we're lucky enough to have

with us three women,

truly at the top of their game.

Our first guest is quite simply one

of the most powerful

businesswomen in the UK today.

She was the first woman to top

the 'Powerlist 100',

is Chairwoman of Britain's biggest

media agency and received an OBE

in the 2014 for services

to media communications.

Welcome Karen Blackett!

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We're also joined by two stars

of the latest British film,

'Finding Your Feet'.

Who first worked together 40 years

ago, and here's the proof...

It's Celia Imrie

and Imelda Staunton.

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You were shocked when you saw that.

Yes, I didn't know you have that.

Who were those men? Nobody was

looking at them, not on today of all

days.

What kind of images does that

conjure up for you?

Cream teas.

We

used to have a cream tea at 11:30am

before the matinee. Felt sick as

parrots. Thought, we are never doing

that again, then the following

Wednesday, cream tea.

We have got some anti-suffrage

pictures for you to look at. This is

the first one. A suffragette's home.

The man has come home, it is in

disarray, the baby is on the floor.

It is a mess, no gas in the lamp and

it has gone pear shaped.

it has gone pear shaped.

Karen, as

somebody involved in the advertising

industry, what do you make of this?

Technically, it's not great. Forget

the message, you normally have a

rule of thumb that you have four

seconds to convey a message on a

poster.

There is a lot going on

here.

Maybe this one will work

better for you? Mummy is a

suffragette. Look the pain.

How dare

they. She could have been a

suffragette and I am the collar.

Multitasking.

The last one.

This is

quite shocking. We want the vote.

Demonising suffragettes, and if you

want to look at this, I can hold

that one of.

My goodness me.

Those images might be extreme

but the words used by politicians

of the day who opposed votes

for women were pretty

extraordinary too.

We asked today's women

to read some out.

Men of England, your interests,

those of your family and the welfare

of this country are in danger.

Rally

to prevent it. Women are known as a

sex class with a temperament and

balance of mind.

The vote is not

desired by the vast majority of

women. Don't make yourselves and

your country the laughing stocks of

the world.

I think it is the most

ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

What?

We are not amused.

It is

scarcely possible to imagine a woman

being Minister for war.

It is really

sexist.

The mental equilibrium of

the female sex is not as stable as

the mantle aqua Librium of the male

sex.

That argument has very strong

scientific backing.

It makes you

really angry.

It is rubbish.

If you

allow women to vote, it will mean

the loss of social structure.

Women

are represented by their fathers,

brothers and husbands.

I find it

incredible that 100 years ago, it

seems like it should have been 400

years ago.

Pass legislation in

Parliament shows the interests of

women are perfectly safe in the

hands of men.

No way!

Good gracious.

We respect them, we give way to

them, we help them and we make

things easy for them. How

patronising is this? Once we give

them the votes, a certain amount of

that will disappear.

I don't think

so. It leaves you speechless.

They

call it justice and equality, it is

nothing of the kind.

It is hard not

to use rude words when you look at

the comments of some of these men.

It is ridiculous.

I agree.

I am amazed it is Great Britain,

that is what took me by surprise.

When those women went through so

much to get the vote, killing

themselves and making themselves so

ill, they will be turning in their

graves, it is appalling.

He is the

first woman to vote in your family,

Karen?

Probably my mum, who came

here in 1961 when she was 19 so

whenever the nearest general

election was after that, it was

probably my month.

probably my month.

You have a budget

of brilliance, thousands of staff,

was that always the plan?

My first

love was athletics. I grew up in

Redding which is known as mini

Barbados because there were so many

people from Barbados who descended

on Redding in the 60s and I had a

love of sport. I was part of reading

athletic club so I am here as a

failed athlete. I wasn't good

enough.

But all that drive and

determination?

I did use that in my

working life. From the earliest

stage I had a love of advertising, I

loved the ads as much as the

programmes. We had a good room where

you were allowed to go in and watch

the TV when I was little. In the

good room I literally consumed all

the ads and I had an idea of who

they were trying to talk to and I

would come up with better ideas. I

always wanted to get into

advertising but didn't know how to

navigate a part in, because it was

alien to my mum and dad. My mum and

dad wanted myself and my sister to

have a profession which would be

seen as high standing back it in

Barbados.

It was quite a man's

world, advertising?

Absolutely. Even

now, only 30% of the people running

the industry are female. But the

intake is 50-50.

On your way up,

Karen, did you face any obstacles

because you were a woman?

I have

been fortunate I worked for a

company, MediaCom and WPP who wanted

to focus on talent. I am a single

mum and ten months after having my

child be promoted me to CEO. There

has always been a focus on talent.

But I did come across difficulties

and it was mostly behind my back

rather than to my face.

Do you have

any examples?

Yes, probably about

ten years ago, maybe longer, I was

business director in my agency at

the time. My role was to try and

find an pitch for new clients. So we

did a pitch for a well-known

breakfast cereal and we didn't win

and is a small industry. I sort of

knew the person who was going to be

the business director at the winning

agency. The winning agency did

exactly what I would do, they took

out the clients to thank them for

the business and used it as an

opportunity to get it into some

competitive insights to see what

everybody else who had pitched, did.

The two decision-makers for the

pitch were two middle-aged white

men. One was South African and the

other was Scottish. They said to the

person he was going to my equivalent

at the agency who won the bid, and

they asked about the agency I was at

and they said, yes they were very

good, but there was no way we would

have had a female business director,

let alone a black one. That is

hurtful because it is personal and

nothing to do with my work. I would

have preferred to have got it wrong

in terms of the work, but that was

about me. I have no intention of

changing my gender or my ethnicity.

I really don't want to.

It was good

that you heard that, you have

something to fight against.

It is

appalling. But it is personal. The

immediate reaction is I felt really

guilty because I felt I had lost the

agency business. And then I got

angry.

We are all trying to guess

which breakfast cereal.

It was the

individuals, not the brand and I do

believe in karma because less than

15 months later, those two

individuals left the organisation,

not of their own doing.

Looking at

business and as far as women in

Power are concerned, the statistics

said it has only increased 2% in the

last decade. It only stands at 8% at

the moment.

That is women in

influential positions.

Yes, what do

you think needs to be done, Karen?

The message needs to be got across

in schools, nobody would say girls

and boys cannot do anything

differently so at level I am sure

the work is getting through, but

from an advertising perspective,

what do you think?

I am privileged

to be a member of an organisation in

the advertising agency which has

been going since 1923, which is the

most senior women in the advertising

and communications industry. Its aim

is to basically fight for gender

equality in our industry. That is

through support so we do lots of

training programmes and there is a

programme coming up where we have

Doctor Helen Pankhurst, a training

programme, for young women in the

industry to give them support and

confidence.

Do you also support men?

That is important because I think

bringing men with us on the journey,

because talking to the converted, we

need to bring smart man. I always

say it is the smart men who want to

win because it is about making sure

you have an assemble of talent, no

matter what the gender or ethnicity

is and if there are men leading

organisations, they can increase

performance and profitability. So

you have to bring men with us.

If you'd like to tell us

about a woman who's inspired you,

whether it's your teacher,

boss, maybe a neighbour,

please do get in touch.

It can be anyone at all,

but avoid your mum -

we'll take that as a given!

Send them in to the

usual email address.

In their new film,

'Finding Your Feet' Celia and Imelda

play two women who've led

very different lives,

sisters Sandra and Bif.

But a nasty shock means well-to-do

Sandra has turned up uninvited

on her sister's doorstep.

Elisabeth, it is Sandro.

Sandro?

What are you doing here?

Mark has

been having an affair with Pamela

Harper so I have left him. I tried

to ring your landline, but you have

changed your number.

Years ago.

You

might have let me know. I can only

imagine what everybody is saying

back home. It turns out he has been

bonking her behind my back for over

five years.

This is one of those classic films

where everybody says, I want to go

and see this.

We have only had clips

and I want to see the whole thing.

What Cassandra learns from Bif, is

key to the whole story?

Yes, life

after a broken down marriage. He

goes off with someone else and she

decides to leave. My character has

quite a veneer and goes to her

sister, and they haven't seen each

other for ten years. There is a free

spirit here and this is a woman who

is completely locked. Spent her own

marriage saying I will serve your

life up, but I won't have one. But

she has enjoyed that light. Goes to

her sister, who is very bohemian and

says, just relax. But she is so

uptight. So the journey this

character has to make, and it takes

her time, which is why the script is

so good. They don't come together

immediately and say, it has been so

long since we have been together.

You have to chip away at me and I

won't be drawn into this life. She

is helpless and it is lovely to have

this sort of spirit that really

unlocks my character.

But not

telling you what to do, just

encouraging you. Join in.

The

character, Bif was written

specifically for you, Celia?

Somebody told that.

Are there

similarities?

I am as untidy as Bif.

I love to dance. Imelda and I have

known each other, we had our

children together and we have always

been in and out of each other's

lives along the way which meant we

didn't have to play familiarity. It

was just there. And with Timothy as

well.

He studied with Timothy?

Timothy Spall, we are talking about?

That is the layer underneath which

doesn't need any work, it is just

there. We have such respect for each

other's work. If it was just fun all

the time, we know we are there to do

a job and we respect each other's

space if they need it.

You know how

to get the best out of each other.

So the familiarity may get a better

project. Who is the joker?

You are

and Richard, the director. You never

get a serious work out of him.

Tim

could read a telephone directory and

be funny. That is nice. You have

people who are quite witty around

and that is good. But also you have

a witty script. We have all done

jobs where we think, that's not very

good but I am doing it. But to do a

script where you think, this doesn't

need any work. All we need to do is

say this and hopefully it will come

across. Director who wants to make a

good film. None of us want to make

rubbish, but I think in this case,

you just say it and it is done.

It's called Finding Your Feet feet.

You eluded to the dancing. Did you

not want to be a ballet dancer?

I

wanted to be a ballerina and marry

Rudolf -

It's not too late. Part of

it.

There is something really true

about that. That is the statue

because I was born on a Tuesday.

Monday's child is fair of face.

Tuesday's child fair of grace. Aged

about three I looked at that and

think - that's my statue, maybe I

should do that. Get into the

position and fall over and things

like that. I do think it was an

influence on my love of dance. It's

never left me, actually. But now I

dance around the kitchen table if a

waltz comes on or a Scottish reel,

actually. I dance by myself. I don't

look in the window because I would

probably fall over. I still love it.

We do the same, really.

Really?

Only

after one!

Finding Your Feet is in

cinemas from the 23rd February. Go

and enjoy it.

Yes.

When it comes to architecture, one

man's palace is another man's hovel,

but should this building

be seen as an important work of art?

Lucy Siegle's been to find out why

a leading museum wants

it for its collection.

For some Robin Hood Gardens council

estate in Popular is a 70s

architecture masterpiece.

This

building kind of stands for a high

point in British social housing.

But

for others the reality is very

different.

We live in a kind of

prison.

But love or loathe this

estate, the flats here are all

coming down. That's not the end of

the story for a chunk of this

building way up here. The world's

leading museum of art and design

want a slice of this estate for

their permanent collection. They

have taken the interior, logging

every item. Today they are preparing

to remove some of the outside. Dr

Neil Bingham decided this concrete

estate is worth preserving.

Three

stories through the whole building.

Then the concrete Exeterors on the

outside.

Why is this building

important

It was brutalist

architecture by famous architects.

The architects are the inventors of

brutalism.

They felt their design

could improve the lives of its

residents.

To the people who live in

it, it offers a place with a special

character, capable of being lived in

generation after generation.

This is

known as a street in the sky. The

way it, works is that there's these

sky walks on every third level so

that he can enter flats side by

side. It's not uncommon in a lot of

social housing to have this, but

this is a nicely done piece.

A lot

of people will think - it's a pile

of old concrete?

Yes. Well it is a

pile of concrete. That's for sure.

That's true.

Yes, it is indeed. It's

a beautifully put together piece of

concrete. I should point out the

concrete is Dmitry Medvedev in

Sweden. It's from the country of

Ikea. It was made like a flat back.

-- made. It's an architectural

showpiece.

While part of the estate

is being demolished residents are

living in another start. Do they

share the doctor's enthusiasm. How

long have you been here for?

More

than ten years.

This is the living

room?

Yes. Come in.

This building is

famous for as a masterpiece of

brutalist architecture.

I don't know

anything about architect oar, but

this is water.

This is water damage.

Somebody's bathroom.

You were

flooded...

Yes a leak. All the time.

You are ready to leave?

Ready to

leave. I'm praying if they can knock

down this building very quick.

That's going to be good.

It's broken

easily. You see all types of people

here. Street gangsters. Whatever you

want to call them. From that angle

it's quite scary.

All residents in

social housing here will be offered

a new flat on the same site when

it's reblilt. Such is the love for

this estate in design circles there

has been a decade long campaign to

get it listed and save it. Some

people have fond memories of growing

up on the estate.

We were running

around these gardens and the

playground and the football pitch.

The streets and the landings. So

many people in the landings, adults

chatting, kids running around and

bikes on the It was like landings.

A

combined family.

Tell me about some

of the issues of living here?

I

remember in the early days we came

into the kitchen and the whole place

was completely black. We realised

was completely black. We realised it

was full ofcockroaches.

A concrete

rib is to be removed from outside

the block for the V & A. It's a

painstaking task that will take

three months in total.

Good job.

We

are used to bringing things down

quickly. This is unusual to take our

time and really thinking about it

piece by piece.

A lot of people who

love this building weren't those who

lived in. It

That is true. People

will discuss whether it's been a

success or a failure. By preserving

a piece of this, we'll keep this

conversation going.

Actually, we

will keep that conversation going

for you right now. Brutalism, is it

beautiful, do you think?

Do you know

what, I studied, I did a geography

degree at the University of

Portsmouth. We did a lot about how

architecture can actually influence

crime in certain areas. That is

quite brutal, in terms of I imagine

the influence of that architecture

in terms of the criminal activity

that would happen. You can throughly

see how that would be the case.

Brutal we should absolutely have a

look at it and preserve to see where

we should not go back to.

You are

pleased it's going in the museum?

I

am.

Into the V & A, which have a

lovely gift shop!

Over to Mike Dilger now whose

travelled to a beautiful part

of the UK where visitors have been

flocking from as far as Canada

and Arctic Russia to get a taste

of British delicacies.

For Tollesbury Salt Marshes in Essex

are twisting waterways. They make

look barren but they support a huge

variety of wildlife and are a vital

pitstop for migrating birds coming

up to 5,000 miles away to feed here.

Most of the marshland is

inaccessible by foot and off limits

to people. Today I will explore this

huge expanse with this, a kayak. For

over 1,000 years, salt deposited

from the Black Water River and the

ebbing and flowing of the tide has

sculpted this landscape. Jonathan

Smith from the Essex Wildlife Trust

is going to help me navigate this

maze of channels. This really is the

most dynamic of habitats. It's

dominate bide one things of course -

tide.

It is. That tide is coming in

twice a day and often covers the

salt marsh completely, as we saw

earlier.

On top the salt loving

plants, down be below it's the mud.

It's the most enormous bird table,

isn't it in

Incredible. It holds

fantastic amount of invertebrates

which they feed on.

Bird populations

in the winter months explode with

visitors come as far away as Arctic

Circle Russia and Canada. Essex is

popular in the winter?

It is.

It's

not long before they put on a

display. A huge flock of birds here.

They flew straight past us. A huge

flock flying past. So many birds

around. This is my best ever

experience. Everywhere I look it's

wonderful. So many species in one

place. One of the reasons is the

different length of each beak.

It's an all you can eat Buffay. They

are co-existing. Next door is

another reserve where the land has

been

been reclaimed giving wildfowl

somewhere to roost.

It's hand in

hand with the salt marsh. Birds move

over here during the high tides and

they can wait for the tide to go

down again.

It's the perfect place

for birds of prey?

Yeah, it is.

Within minutes we spot a barn owl.

It has flown in what it looks like a

vole.

It's caught behind that

hedgerow. Oh, that's lovely.

We were

lucky to spot one of the UK's finest

birds of prey. We picked up a female

marshes had harrier.

marshes had harrier. Harriet and a

peregrine. They are in the air at

the same time. What a great end to

the day. This quiet corner of Essex

with the salt marsh, creeks and

estuary is stunningly beautiful and

internationally important be for the

wildlife. For any bird arriving from

across the northern hem fear, this

is as good as it gets. He always

delivers, doesn't he, our Mike. A

barn owl and a marsh harrier - what

more do you want. Celia from Mike

paddling away there it takes us on

to your new novel. Sail Away.

I

thought, just by chance, I have two

heroines in this book. They meet by

chance. They don't know each other,

on a voyage, long voyage, on a huge

great big liner they only meet at

the very end when all sorts of bad

things are happening. Then they find

each other. Two heroines.

Would that

be a film, Celia, do you think?

You

have the friends to get involved.

That is all I have to say.

That's it for tonight.

Thanks to Karen, Imelda and Celia.

'Finding Your Feet' is in cinemas

from Friday, 23rd February.

Round of applause for our guests.

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Tomorrow we'll also be joined

by Maureen Lipman and Martin Shaw

and Rudimental will be performing

with Jess Glynne.

See you tomorrow.

Have a good night.