05/04/2012 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker...

...and Alex Jones. Tonight's guest has played some amazingly diverse

roles in his career. In Priscilla Queen of the Desert he dragged up

and travelled across the outback in a lavender bus. In LA Confidential

he fought crime and corruption as a cop in 1950s California. As Edward

VIII he abdicated from the British throne. Not bad for an actor who

started as little old Mike Young from Ramsay Street. He will hate us

for showing this clip. He's not out of the water. You've

Yes! It's Guy Pearce! Good to see you. As that clip shows, actions

speak louder than words. Absolutely. Nice diving style. That scene

launched my Hollywood career. Thafrpblgts was Lucy wasn't it? The

first one. There were a couple of actresses who played Lucy. Do you

still see some of the cast? Jason and I are still mates. Whoever I

happen to come across at the time. We had a great time. Annie Jones

was Plain Jane Superbrain. What is she doing now? She still works as

an actor at home. It is amazing how many stars have come from that cul-

de-sac. Yeah, it was, I guess it was just one of those magical

periods, where people went on to do other stuff. It was a fun time.

will chat to Guy about his new film. It's as far away from Ramsay Street

as it's possible to get. It's our last show before Easter. Just for

fun, we are challenging to you an Easter egg hunt. You might spt a

few during the show. The question is how many? Stay tuned and we will

to the them up at the end. weather might have changed from

last week's heat wave, but that hasn't stopped seven water

authorities imposing hosepipe bans today after the dryest two-year

period on record. It's not just gardens which suffer, as Conor

Woodman found out, actual atakes is one moment of carelessness to turn

our moorlands to ash. Moorland covers some of the most

beautiful parts of Britain, from the hieds of Scotland to Dartmoor

in Devon. And at this time of year, it's particularly vulnerable. In

the recent fine weather, fires made headlines across the country from

South Wales to Surrey, Lancashire and Yorkshire. The results can be

catastrophic. Record temperatures for March meant Scotland has been

particularly badly hit. 40% of the country is covered in moorland so

I'm going out with the Highlands and islands Fire & Rescue Service

to see the problem first hand. have another call for another

wildfire of approximately quarter of a mile which is spreading.

can see immediately behind me what's quite a substantial line of

fire moving across the moorland here. This is one of over 80 fires

they've had in this region just this week. How do fires like this

start? A number of ways. They're usually a human element. Up to 95%

of are started by people, some through arson, also other causes

such as unattended barbeques or discarded cigarettes. It can cost

up to �1 million to put out. If these guys weren't here to put it

out, it would quickly be up into that barn and there's two houses

there. Fighting wildfires here mean firemen can't attend other blazes.

There's a unique difficulties in getting to these burns. There's no

hoses here. One of the difficulties with wildfires is they tend not to

happen beside a roadway so we need specialist transport and we have to

walk a cabl distance. The distance from the fire to the fire engine

means it would be impossible to run hoses that length or distance.

year su equally devastating fires in the spring and summer. The

holidays were the worst time. Around Easter between 18th April

and the 6 May, there were more than 250 maizor blazes in the UK, that's

just the large fires that are easily recordable. The peak

stkriect was among those badly hit. Sean is the ranger for the Peak

District National Park. We have 70% of the planet's reserve of heather

moorland. It's more rare than rainforest. It's important for

ground nesting birds, like Skylark. This is where they nest. This is

their home. What this fire has done is effectively wipe this

generation's happen tat out this year. As well as affecting wildlife,

moorland fires can have an even more dramatic environmental impact.

What happens really is that these plants are taking carbon out of the

system and they're locking it up into these peat soils which are

forming below it. Peat that is organic carbon. It's locked up in

these ecosystems for thousands of years. If this vegetation layer is

destroyed, all that peat is exposed and the carbon will be released

back into the atmosphere. If this happens then the moorlands find it

very difficult to recover. Some parts of the Peak District are

still scarred from blazes anything up to 65 years ago. The Peak

District is trying to restore the moorland. They're spending �16

million on a ten-year project reseeding plants and relaying moss.

The reality of these wildfires is that they're nearly always man made.

They can do untold damage to our environment as well as some of our

most beautiful natural land escapes. Of course, very familiar with bush

fires, being out in Australia. Were you in Melbourne at the time of the

devastating ones three years ago? Yeah, it was horrible. It was

intense. We'd had a long drought for a year or two. There was a

minor draut that -- drought that had been going on for many years,

but then we had a very holt summer. By February 2009, the whole area

was so... Just dry. Yeah, and so something started and there were

horrible winds. It completely wiped out Marysville, it was devastating.

Very sad. You weren't actually born in Australia, you were born in Ely

in Cambridgeshire. How.family end up in Australia? My father was a

test pilot. He was offered a job. Initially we went for two years.

After two years mum quite liked the weather and decided to stay.

Surprise! My dad was from New Zealand so he was happy. We just

stayed. There we are. Now then, the Easter weekend starts tomorrow and

amidst the chocolate and bunnies there's significant religious

meaning. Anita Rani has joined the final preparations for those

planning to share that message in some unexpected places.

Don't be surprised at seeing the Messiah, he may pop up near you. An

event that's becoming increasingly popular is the passion play.

It's a story that's almost 2,000 years old, has the blockbuster

elements of love, betrayal and murder and has inspired art, music

and theatre for centuries. In towns and cities, these big event plays

range from the traditional to the down right modern. Some productions

like the one in kendal even have machine gun toting soldiers instead

of Romans. The Passion is the story of Jesus from the time he enters

into Jerusalem a week before he dies to a last supper, where he

eats with his disciples leading to his crucifixion and death. Last

year Welsh author Owen Sheerz adapted it to a modern setting,

starring Michael Sheen, the production featured elements such

as the Last Supper and a suicide bomber. The like modern

interpretations as well, which try to make the passion of Christ

relevant for a modern audience. this story for non-Christian tooz?

It's a message of peace at a time when all around us we seat power of

conflict and the very real threat of violence. For ul after us, in a

world today, that message of peace sin credibly relevant. One of the

biggest productions is taking here in Trafalgar Square.

Last year, it attracted an audience of over 20,000 people. With a cast

of more than 80, including Roman soldiers, horses and a donkey,

pulling this off could take a miracle. This Jesus will make us a

laughing stock. Exactly. This is our third year of doing it. I hope

that it will become a tradition. There were 20,000 people last year

who saw the Passion of Jesus on Good Friday. I'm hoping, indeed I'm

praying, for a big audience. watching the actors rehearse, the

thespian in me had to get involved. Stay here. Stay. I'll go and see.

You remember that I told my disciples that I would be captured?

James is performing as Jesus in three different plays over the

weekend. How long have you played Jesus? 14 years. That's a long time

to play one character. Do you worry about being typecast? There's not

that many actors who get that opportunity to focus and understand

one story and particularly one character. Most actors fear being

crucified and here are you, being crucified five times over the

course of one weekend. I'm lucky. I get to come back to life again

afterwards. It's not all bad. What's it like performing in

Trafalgar Square in front of 20,000 people? I'm able to walk amongst

the people, talk directly to them, some of the audience will be this

close, some will be right up at the National Gallery. It's wonderful. I

love it. There are Passion plays taking place up and down the

country. Most of them are free. Go and see your local one. I'm

planning on seeing my if I can get my ass into gear. Come on Chester,

enough grass now. Good performance by Anita there. If

you can't get out to a passion play, don't worry tomorrow at 12pm you

can see the Preston Passion live here on BBC One. If you didn't have

to commit 14 years of your life it a role would you like to play

something like Jesus? Yes of course. I did neighbours for four years,

still quite a commitment. You like those kind of deep characters.

probably wasn't as spiritual as Jesus perhaps. No! I'm not saying

that. But you know, I could get there. Let's talk about Lockheart.

It's a full on, full throttle action movie. You have done loads

of genres. Why a big action movie now? I like the humour in it. There

was, I had a great discussion with the producer about the style of the

film and the fact that they wanted a leading character that had a

cynical and I guess inappropriate attitude. The way in which he was

written I found really humorous. Soy just felt like I was able to

take that on. I think I've been offered other action stuff before,

but the characters take themselves a bit too seriously I think

sometimes. This was an opportunity to have fun with it. And the story

is set on a prison out in space. Yeah it's in the future. It's on a

prison in outer space. I'm an ex- special operation's guy. The

American President's daughter goes out to this prison to visit on a

welfare mission. Something goes horribly wrong and she's taken

hostage and I'm the guy to rescue her apparently. There is an

underlying love story, it's fair to say - ish. There's clearly some

chemistry. So here's your character and the President's daughter.

sent you? Your old man did. My dad. What did he say? I didn't get to

meet him personally, he kind of delegated your rescue. They had a

corn surplus. You're kidding me. About my father. Yeah I made that

up. Did he have a message for me? Yes, you are adopted. Are you the

only kind of jerk they found for this mission? The only one stupid

enough to say yes. APPLAUSE

Stkpwhri tell you, there's some very jumpy, creepy moments. Like

Alex was saying, full-on action. Due hurt yourself in those scenes?

You're bouncing around all over the shop. I think I hurt myself more

doing mundane things, tripping on a rug or something like that. In the

midst of the action scenes, I manage to get through those OK.

Bang my head on a door frame or something daft. Is it true you had

to bulk up a bit. You're in good shape, but you did bulk up for the

film. I wasn't in the shape that I was in the film when I met the

directors. I was kind of thin and they were both a little nervous

that I wasn't going to appear to be the action hero that they wanted. I

convinced them that I was able to lift some weights. Did you say

"Trust me I'm a former junior minister Victoria." They weren't

quite my words. That is true though. It is, strangely enough. It seems

to be the strangest thing from my past that I did that. I think I was

really enjoying body building when I was young. The gym that I was at

was run by some people who were heavily into the industry and got

me into this competition. Before you know it, you have big biceps..

We have to talk about Prometheus. Another big film out this summer.

Tell us about that then. There's been a trailer, but it's not from

the film on the web already. That's right. Actually we're sworn to

secrecy. There's not a lot I can say. The thing everybody's talking

about is that it's an Alien prequel. But the fact, the philosophy and

the ideas in the film really make it a far grander story than an

alien prequel to. Call it a prequel is limiting. I think people will be

surprised at what a stand alone, amazing, kind of sci-fi it is.

is Ridley Scott. It is. When is that out? I think it's about June,

Well, lock is in the cinemas from the 20th of April. Don't forget we

are hiding Easter eggs in the set tonight as a pre-Easter egg hunt.

Have you seen any yet? Not so many. But keep your eyes peeled.

As John Sergeant now explains it took a British bloke in the bath to

create a banking revolution. The 0s, mini skirts arrived and Sergeant

Pepper on the stereo, we felt we had it all. Unless you needed

access to your readies. Before the hole-in-the-wall if you worked

full-time, getting to the bank to get money out was often difficult.

The banks were only open on weekdays from 9.00am to 3.00pm. On

Saturday from 9.00am until noon. That could be very frustrating! But

one man madeed it his mission to find a solution.

One Saturday lunch time, in 1965, banking security expert, Andrew

Shepherd-Barron, could not get his hands on his own money.

He arrived at the bank just a minute after it closed.

Later that day, in the bath, cursing his timing, he thought

about a High Street chocolate vending machine. Surely you could

access your cash in the same way? But Andrew Shepherd-Barron had to

ensure that the only person who could get your money was you.

The first part of his solution sounds positively dangerous.

Radioactive vouchers! These vouchers were marked with carbon 14.

It gave them a radioactive signature, that the machine could

read it may sound reckless, but it was only mildly radioactive.

He worked out that you would have to eat more than 100,000 of them to

feel any ill effects. I don't think I will try! The next

part is more familiar. You prove to the machine you were

authorisationed to withdraw the money by punching in a personal

indentification number, a PIN. If that PIN corresponded with the

radioactive signature on the voucher, the machine would pay out.

PIN numbers can be any length. The fact we can remember ours is the

result of another Andrew Shepherd- Barron invasion, but not John's.

It was my father who came up with the idea of four digits for a PIN.

He first thought six. That it was not complicated. Then my mother

said, no way, that four was more than enough. That anybody could

usefully remember. She made something simple that

could have been a little more complicated.

Andrew Shepherd-Barron was on to a winner, now he just had to convince

the banks. He was given 90 seconds to sell the concept of an ATM, it

took 85 seconds. Then they celebrated by having a pink gin.

From a pitch over cocktails, to the prestigious address to this -- to

launch this new era, Tokyo? New York? No, it was Enfield.

It was in little old Enfield where this started out, if things went

wrong, they could make fun of it. And a comedian, who would later

star in On The Buses, helped to start it all off, but what if it

did not work? They put a little man in the back of the machine, to give

the money out, so that it would not go wrong.

Now, we use plastic cards, that replaced the radioactive vouchers.

There are 2 million ATMs around the world. They dispense trillions of

cash to the public who need the cash for their daily lives, that

would not have happened were it not for Andrew Shepherd-Barron.

This is where the first cash machine was installed. Ironically,

Andrew Shepherd-Barron did not get any cash out of it. His design was

not patented on security grounds, but eventually he was I awarded an

OBE for changing our lives forever. Well, they literally have? Where

would we be without a Cashpoint these days? It is amazing.

Not that I use it often. I don't carry cash.

Cash is king. You like getting the cash out.

I paid for chewing gum yesterday with a card.

Well, more and more people are aing -- paying with cards. About half of

the transactions now are with cash. The rest are with plastic and debit

cards and credit cards. We have heard of all of those, but this

year has been a change, these cards come with the sign, that sign on

the top, that means that they are contactless. So instead of putting

it in the machines, how we normally do with a debit card here and then

the PIN number. If it is up to �15, you can put it on the top. So that

is up to �156789 And some of the mobile phones,

again, with this logo that does it, you put it there and that's it.

Millions of those cards have come out. There is even an idea that

there will be watches. So you would put a microchip into the watch. So

you put the watch over there if you want to buy something.

How very James Bond! Do you have to wear a pink one? It is a beacon.

Are you a fan of this I think it is fascinating. I was going to ask

whether or not there would be a push to eliminate cash? I think

that some people want to be crooked so they will use cash, but some

like the security, thinking that is what they will do, that is their

money. They may not like the electronic stuff, but still it will

go down and down. There is no doubt about that.

Thank you very much. If you don't want the watch, I will have it.

John is buying us a drink after this? Is he? Well, now on to

butterflies. They may look delicate, but a number of them are have hardy

to survive a long winter. Contrary to popular belief, some

butterflies live longer than a few days. We even have ones that

survive throughout the cold months of winter.

Here in the Aisle of Purbeck, these Second World War defences are seen

as ugly, as a blotten the lan scape. Yet for half of the year, they are

important refugees for insects. One such insect is the beautiful

Peacock Butterfly. Not the common species it once was.

On the roof here are two eoverwintering Peacocks. They will

hibernate from March to the following year. 50 years ago there

would have been more that this, there are only two here that is

evidence of the decline. It will not be long before the days get

longer and warmer. These two will emerge, fly outside, mate and lay

eggs. So I think it is time that I left them in peace. In the past ten

years, Peacock numbers have fallen by 25%. The charity conservation

are keeping a close eye on diminishing numbers, but they are

not the only ones in trouble. Matthew Oates researches the

butterflies in the forest in Wiltshire.

What do you have here? Here is a hibernating caterpillar. I want you

to find him. That is unbelievable! Have you got

him? No! It is less than a centimetre long.

This is embarrassing, I can't see it! If I were a hungry bird...

going to have to help? You are, I'm sorry.

The point is that he is late winter, but this caterpillar has survived.

He is there. Any bird and found that andate it

is doing really -- and ate it, is doing well.

Everyone thinks that winter, that things are dead, but it is all

there, hibernating. As an egg, caterpillar, a pupa, but somewhere

they are waiting for the spring. They are, but not just waiting for

the spring, but avoiding the predators. The only defence

mechanism that they have got is camouflage. They are master of

these arts. Two thirds of the hibernating

Purple Emperors here will be eaten by birds during the winter, but the

effects have been felt keenly in recent years as wet, cold weather

in the summer months has affected their rates of reproduction.

Obviously the insects have to hibernate as there is time of year

where there is less food. Some hibernate as adults, some hibernate

as eggs, why? It depends on the food in your system. If you are an

adult you are fed up on Nectar. If you are a caterpillar, you have to

have fed on something to sustain the long winter sleep. If you are

clever and spend the winter as an egg, you just sit tight.

Let me show you an egg. Here? Yes, up in the oak tree.

Bring that branch down. There we go. Oh! Have you got it? That was

marginally easier to see than the Purple Emperor caterpillar.

For a good reason, he is not so camouflaged.

At the moment, the number of some of these species of cater --

butterflies are fairly stable, but three quarters of our species have

shown a ten-year decline. However, climate change may be having a

positive effect for some species. Tell me a good news story? There is

a Comma Butterfly. 100 years ago this was a top national rarity. It

is actually now spreading well for about 90-odd years. You can see why

he is called a Comma? Yes, there is a wee comma under the wing. That is

spectacular. As the warm days take hold, gorgeous butterflys like the

Comma will continue to come out of hibernation. Let's hope we get more

of these magnificent creatures recovering all over the country.

What a beautiful sight. Thank goodness Matthew Oates was there

otherwise we would not have seen anything. Any way it is time to see

if you have spotted our Easter eggs, shall we count them.

There is one there with Anita Rani. One with John in the lab. Number

four was the top shelf... There is number five. In the trees.

And the sixth one is e just up there on the -- and the sixth one

is just up there on the Second World War defensive. Now, before we

go if there is someone you have not seen for a long time, friends,

school mates or colleagues, even Neighbourss! Nice, Matt. Well if

you want us to help you find them, here is -- send us an e-mail.

But before we go, we would like you to have that.

Happy Easter! That is all for tonight. Thank you very much to Guy