05/07/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker.

Our guests tonight have two of the most distinctive

One has been claiming for years that she can do

an impression of the other - so let's hear it.

Guest number one - say something in the voice

I'm delighted to be on the The One Show, darling. It's Absolutely

Fabulous! OK, guest number two,

your chance to do better, you've never claimed you can do it

but let's hear your impression Oh that's spot on, that sounds

just like Sarah Millican, and if you couldn't work it out

from Sarah's impression, German does! Wonderful. That was

marvellous. I know. Seriously. You've got to keep those voices

going for the next hour. That was lovely. Who was better, do you

think? Joanna was better, I think. Sarah said that you have to do it

very high. You have channelled Joanna's voice as the voice of a

penguin. Yes, on the Wild Side. I Can Only Do This Voice. All The Rest

Of The Cast Could Do Lots Of Accidents. This Is All I Could Do.

This is why I am losing work. I don't know if you've heard about our

One Show plan. We are helping people who spend far too much time locked

in the world of their smartphones. We know, Sarah, that you've had

experience of this at gigs. The audience is in the pitch dark.

Obviously, I need the lights. When somebody checks their phone, their

whole face lines up. Even when they think they been sneaking. Somebody

had a red light on and I thought they were recording. I thought I'd

have deal with it. I went over to the show manager. Better than

stealing your material. I've got a mobile phone because a lot of

parking in London has to be done by phone but I don't use it. I don't

have people my phone number because I will never answer it. So you use

it as a parking meter? That's really it. It's quite a good phone. I

seemed to have a very good one. My husband was hoping that I would be

converted. He's bought me a beautiful one. Sadly, I don't switch

it on. Do you use the camera? That's nice. That's useful. You can take a

photo of where your car is parked. Lots of people love their phones. A

lot of people feel they are spending so much time on them. Suggestions

have been pouring in to help us create a plan. Including sheila from

Stirling's solution. This is her no phone zone. In the house. Quite

frightening. As if the signs aren't direct enough. You are warned off by

knives. There is a lemon zest in the mix, as well. With the help of

Joanna and Sarah, our mobile phone expert and Tommy Sandhu will help

come up with an idea. We met the Farndon family on Monday night and

they are helping us this. Brave people. You can get involved by

e-mailing others or using social media and then put your phone away.

Every year one commando is given the Thomas Durrant Award

in memory of a soldier who - 75 years ago - gave his life

to complete a near impossible World War Two mission

Before we find out more about Thomas's extraordinary bravery

from his own nephew - here's Emma Dabiri

with your briefing on The Greatest Raid Of All.

Here's your mission. You are going to blow up a dock, in the heart of

enemy territory. You will go past their gun posts and searchlights.

They cannot notice you. Because your ship will be disguised as one of

theirs. Brought alive here by Reconstruction and archive, this is

the true story of one of the most ingenious and audacious missions of

World War II. Known as the greatest raid of all. 1942, the British are

completely dependent on convoys from Europe for food and supplies. The

Germans were determined to disrupt this link with their super

battleship, the Tirplitz. She could have severed

their lifeline and forced the British into submission. They needed

somewhere in German controlled France for repairs. This particular

dock in Saint-Nazaire fitted the bill superbly. It was the only dog

of sufficient size. In effect, to stop Tirplitz, they had to destroy

this dock. The British decided that the best way to do this was to ram a

ship full of explosives into the dock. It is six miles down the

oestriol the River Loire. To do this, they would have two sail into

the territory. Pretty much, a suicide mission. They gave them an

inch and World War I destroyer, age must Campbeltown. The British came

up with an audacious plan. To get that far into enemy controlled

waters, they disguised Campbeltown as a German ship by changing its

shape and adding armour plating. When Lord Louis Mountbatten

presented the idea to the war office, he was told it would be

impossible to pull off. Therein, Labour planned's biggest advantage.

The fact that it is regarded as impossible makes it impossible. The

Germans will think we'd never attempted. The Navy needed help. It

came from and a special forces unit set up by Churchill two years

earlier, the army commanders. In March 1940 621 men left Britain for

Saint-Nazaire. The impossible mission had begun. As they got just

outside the estuary, they adopted the formation with age must

Campbeltown in the lead. Columns of small motor launches with commandos

on board following on either side. As they approached the first German

gunpoint, anxiety reached fever pitch. This was when they would know

if their deception had worked. These were the most potent. They could

have destroyed the whole fleet from here. But the Germans didn't open

fire. Incredibly, the Campbeltown continued for milestone yesterday

before the Germans realised something was wrong. When they did,

all hell broke loose. Searchlights, Tracer, everything. You've somehow

got to get yourself on the right course. Identifying a gate that

stuck up but much on a black night. That was next to a lighthouse which

incredibly they managed to reach. Victory was within their grasp when

the crew made a sickening discovery. The captain of Campbeltown mistook

these lighthouses for the lighthouse at the end. They had come to the

wrong part of the dock. Outgunned, outnumbered and exposed. The

impossible mission was about to become just that. Such bravery. You

can't imagine what it's like. Part two is coming up later and Dan Snow

is briefing is on some other impossible missions. Staying with

World War II. We are talking about another mission. We've got this

photograph of Joanna's father. This is him in the vest. On the right in

the hat. This was in Burma. He was a Chindit fighting behind enemy lines

against the Japanese. Daddy wouldn't talk about it. It was a terrible

campaign. Like the Saint-Nazaire raid, even in this very small

battle, to VC for were awarded. One of them posthumously. They were

tough times. When he came back, my mother didn't recognise him because

he weighed six stone. He had dysentery, malaria, yellow fever.

They were all skeletons by the time they came back. Extraordinarily

brave. A lot of people won't know that you were born in India. Daddy

was with that regiment and a lot of those crack soldiers were with

Gurkha soldiers. He was with the Indian armour. He was born in Lahore

which is now in Pakistan. My family had connections back generations to

India on both sides. They met in Kashmir and fell in love and I was

born there. This is the premise of the programme that is going out

tonight at nine o'clock. I revisit India any time I get a chance. I was

doubtful about making a programme. We've only got three episodes.

Anybody who knows India, it is the size and complexity of Europe. Every

region and every part has a different language, culture, food,

everything. How'd you cover that in three programmes? I thought I better

not. They, said just do it. I said, of course, sorry. I'm so thrilled

that we did go back and did it. I particularly didn't want to go to

the India that people know. We haven't gone to the Taj Mahal.

Trying to do things that people who have gone there, who go to Jaipur

or, Agra, places like this might not have seen. Places like Rajasthan,

Tamil Nadu. I fell in love all over again. You may have been reluctant

to go in the first place but once you were there, you really got stuck

in. Look what's coming! Trumpets are starting. Here it comes. I can't be

sure which way it's going to turn. You can just see in the middle, the

god Shiva. The crowd just following on behind. So strange. I feel I am

back in pre-mediaeval days. This has been going on since before any other

religion began. So, come on. What was happening there? The most

extraordinary ceremony, the god every single night was paraded

through this fast, exquisite temple. The God Shiva is taken to his bed

chamber and his consort goes with him. They are put to bed. I love

that! The gods are put to bed every single night. It was stunning. There

are 36 million gods in the Hindu religion. That's a lot. That is

Joanna Lumley's India. Where would you go? I'd stay at home. I'm not a

traveller. It's just me going to the studio and the gym. Just the one

episode. You've been abroad, though. Going on holiday is different to

travelling. I had a friend who walked across Spain, I asked her

why. She is a traveller. She likes to travel. I like to go somewhere,

read some books and go home. I go to exotic places on tour, like Hull.

Manchester. Which we'll get to shortly. You met the as well. You're

not the first of your family to do The 13th Dalai Lama, his

predecessor. Included believe in reincarnation. When the old one

dies, there is a period of hunting out who his spirit may have gone

into and the 14th was identified when he was two years old. The 13th

is when my grandfather was a diplomat and his remit was in good

time and Tibet, so he got to know the 13th Dalai Lama. The 13th Dalai

Lama gave him the most wonderful book, a Tibetan book, a Foley story

which has been in my family for ever. When I first saw the Dalai

Lama when my mother was a live, they said that Tibet has been desecrated,

take the book back and give it to his Holiness. I wrapped it up and I

made a presentation to him. He took it out and he was so touched and

thrilled. Oh, he said, this is clean, I will get you something. He

said, keep the outside bits, which are wooden, they are valuable. One

of his monks came back and presented a treaty is an emptiness, which is

terribly valuable. It went somewhere and I have it wrapped up, it is

double treasure, to give something back to the Dalai Lama and he gave

something to me. I phoned up the office of Tibet in London and said,

what should I give him and they said, maybe some biscuits, some tea.

You can't give the Dalai Lama tea and biscuits! We decided to give him

a drone. We presented him with a drone. LAUGHTER

Because he is so interested in gadgets, we thought he may quite

like it. Brilliant, I love that. Joanna Lumley's India begins tonight

at 9pm on ITV. Back to the phone plan and a topic of a better phone

at life balance. Many of you have been worried about the amount of

time that children spend on smartphones so we tried turning a

phone shop into a playground for a day. 15.5 million of us are worried

that we are on smartphones too much but what about the next generation,

who are two steps ahead when it comes to mobiles? Today they will do

something that most kids dream about, we're letting them loose on

the latest smartphone technology. OK, let them in. Today isn't simply

about causing mindless carnage and matching up expensive gadgets, it is

observing the habits of a generation that have grown up around

smartphones. These boys coming straight in and within ten seconds,

phone in hand, unlocked, onto some recognisable games. David McLellan

is a tech journalist and like me he is a proud but slightly concerned

parent. We must put ourselves into our children's mindsets to

understand what the future looks like. Shutting technology away is

going to cause more harm than good. The kids here are aged between six

months and 13 years and even the youngest seems to have an intuitive

understanding of how this guff works. Does she go on touchscreens

at home? Yes, certain adverts she will watch again and again. What is

she looking at? Kids programmes. She is in the back of the car, we get

her a tablet and she will sit and watch it happily. These parents

aren't alone, according to a survey most children have browsed the

Internet by the age of five and only smartphone by the age of ten. You

must open up your kids' eyes and they must be familiar with it

because it is the future whether we like it or not. It is healthy in

moderation. When does it become a problem? Smartphones and tablets are

new and we are learning how children's development plays

intimate but research shows that children of two, three, they are

learning motor skills. It is seeing something, moving their hands and

picking things up, so research suggests that too much time with

smartphones isn't good for them. When they start to develop motor

skills from the age of three we see a difference in how they use these

phones. As they get older they start to explore the world around them, so

cameras on phones, we saw that today, people taking pictures of

adults and themselves and as we get older we can get lazier, we sit back

and want to watch things rather than interact. That is true of the 8-9

-year-olds here today. Before you know it, the smartphone is a gateway

into the world of Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat, something

many parents dread. More than three quarters of children aged 10-12 have

social media accounts even though they are below the age limit. Social

media terrifies me. You have to exist online as a teenager. Why are

you so interested in Facebook? What fascinates you about it? All my

other friends have it. It is an easier way to share pictures and

things on Instagram. We have conversations, don't we, about

understanding who is online, things have to be run past mummy and daddy.

It is like teaching them to cross the road these days, isn't it? Who

is on the phone? Ooh! It isn't all bad news, phones can be a valuable

research tool. They are called smart for a reason. Who is the best

presenter on the One Show? It's got a picture of Alex. Yes, it's me.

Don't look at the screen. So, smartphones are here to stay and it

is up to us grown-ups to get on top of it. We must be aware that kids

are aspiring to the behaviour of adults around them, so they must be

conscious of what they are doing. My top piece of advice is not to use a

smartphone as a baby-sitter, sit down with them, open up a line of

Kimi Nikesh because in the first ten years of their life you are setting

the habits and behaviour that they will have for the rest of their

lives. Good advice, we just must get them off these phones and tablets

first. We are in our own One Show phone shop because our smartphone

panel is now in session. Psychologist Doctor Lee Hadlington

from De Montfort University and technical Tommy as well. That's me.

Lee, you have done some interesting research on children and

smartphones. What we are trying to do is focus on how children are

using smart devices and smartphones in their daily lives and what impact

that is having on then and how it is affecting their general function and

what kind of things they are coming into contact with online and how it

is affecting their behaviour and aspects of cyber security. It is

early days when you are thinking of long-term impact. Yeah. But what are

you noticing? We did some research with 8-9 -year-olds, some focus

groups, we asked them what things they use their phones for and also

their eye pads and interestingly, some of them talked about isolation,

aspects of social isolation, to escape from the environment around

them. They were talking about mum and dad, when they are on their

phone and iPad, they don't talk to them and it is their shut-off. We

are seeing it happening increasingly with young children. Tommy has been

going through the suggestions we have received for the One Show phone

plan. Some extreme examples, Kevin from Yorkshire says the problem is

smartphones, not phones. We use them as a diary and a clock. Denny 's in

Essex suggests locking the phones away if the kids are not sticking to

their limit, by a little safe and put the phones inside it. She

recommends it and maybe she is selling them! I don't know. Sounds

extreme. Sonia suggests we learned a new skill, rather than playing on a

phone, why not start a family band? There is a really good app for that.

She wouldn't know about it! There are some sensible suggestions. Mark

says that they turn off their phones, and he can recommend that,

before bed. Chloe said that she used to have trouble sleeping but since

she turned off her phone one hour before she goes to bed she sleeps

better. Some people say that Wi-Fi can be a problem. They have told

their family that the Wi-Fi doesn't work after 8pm until 8am and that is

a rule set by the government. From a psychological perspective you are

going to get a better night of sleep without looking at your phone.

Definitely, it is the same as drinking caffeine before bed, don't

use your tablet or smartphone before you go to bed. It excites your brain

and you're constantly thinking about how you might be missing out on

things. It isn't just the missing out element but also the blue light,

which can disrupt sleep. Tricks you into thinking it's daytime.

Absolutely. Last night you may have heard Stewart and Hannah's story.

Basically, Stuart told us that your daughter sat in the bath to be able

to connect to next-door's Wi-Fi! That's correct! That's true, yeah?

What did you think when your story was on the One Show? I was

completely shocked! What is your top tip? If you can get a contract for

your child or aids card, sure that the data is low. Very sneaky. She's

turned on her own! What else can you tell us? We talk about etiquette

around phone use, dinner time is a big thing. A lot of people with

dinner table suggestions, one person said that the family should put

their phones in the middle of the table and whoever checks their phone

first will have it banned for 24 hours. When you are going to dinner,

whoever checks their phone must pick up the bill. Finally, place your

phones in a bowl, this is from Steve, put your phones in a bowl and

you will find out that when it is out of sight it is out of mind. We

know that this has got a lot of people talking. Get in contact with

your ideas. Three weeks on from the fire at Grenfell Tower, today,

Theresa May announced a new task force to take over part of

Kensington and Chelsea 's after criticism of their response to the

disaster. We sent Anita to see if things are improving after weeks of

chaos. It has been three weeks since the tragic Grenfell Tower disaster

and there are so many unanswered questions by the main one has to be,

are the families who were left homeless and destitute receiving the

help that they need? Many survivors of the fire expected to be re-homed

by now. That isn't the case. This is where Omar is staying. He escaped

the 14th floor of Grenfell. His brother didn't get out and died.

Omar is a serious refugee who had made a new life for himself in

Britain, a life that he must rebuild once more. When I came here I didn't

have anything, I started to learn everything about this country, I

started learning English. We got a job, started studying at university.

We felt like everything was then destroyed and we have to start

again. Even harder than when I came here. My brother was the most

important one I lost in the tower, which I didn't expect at all. Even

my country, during the war, we didn't expect that. Omar, this is

home for you now, the Hilton. How is it? People might think it is the

Hilton, a nice hotel, but it is nice if you come here for a holiday. We

used to live in a quiet flat. Sitting in a quiet place, talking to

each other. Every day we must go outside and bring our food, they

don't allow us to eat here. We can't wash our clothes, it is expensive to

send them to the laundry. We can't cook our food, there is no kitchen.

What financial support have you got? ?5,000 for the household. Five

members of the house, they will get 5000, that's all we get. Are you

getting the support? The council have called to get information but

they don't tell you where you are going to be, when you will be

rehoused. They extended our booking for one more month. Michael is one

of the many people in the Kameni de helping displaced families. He is

the director of a youth and community centre close to Grenfell.

Are people getting the help they need? Unfortunately not, people are

still coming out of shock, coming back from holidays. People coming

through the doors and saying they have been away, no information about

where to get support from this and literally coming to our doorstep, we

can offer them some kind of relief and support. Three weeks later,

you'd hope that people are settling into to wear their lives may be

going. Is that not the case? It isn't because there are people

displaced, people who haven't got the support that they need. What

about these donations? They are going out but unfortunately people

are falling through the net and we are picking them up. Michael

introduced me to his team of volunteers. Hannah has been working

15 hours a day for the last three weeks. She told me there has been

little improvement in the desperate situation faced by the displaced

families. And you are in contact with the families, are they getting

the support they need? Some, some are not. Others are going out and

looking for the help they need, some of them are in hotels and that's why

we go to them. These are from families, order forms. This one says

Cardigan 's, skirts, pyjamas, everything. They have got nothing.

If you were in charge, how would you sort out the situation? They should

receive a five star service, the paperwork should be coming to them,

lawyers, health visitors, they should have a workshop running from

the hotel. The council know who is on the register, they know who the

housing people are, they need to find them. They house them, so why

not take the service to them? If it wasn't for us, they would say OK,

here is your money, said there and wait for us to give you

accommodation. You are doing a great job. This is where I find comfort.

We saw that night. This is what makes us continue. I

was there all night. This is what makes us go on. We have to pull

together. Amazing work by the community. Here's hoping they get

the support they need. Straight after hours on BBC One, it's

Watchdog. Here is Matt and Steph. Yes - we're back with

Watchdog Live right Thanks to all the One Show viewers

who got in touch with us We hope you'll do the same again

tonight - because we've got some cracking stories we've been

investigating on your behalf. For starters -

we'll be asking why Virgin Media is promising new customers broadband

speeds that our tests prove And if you're someone

who reckons you'd never fall for a scam

- think again. Nick Hewer - yes nice Nick Hewer

from The Apprentice and Countdown - has been looking at the devastating

consequences of one that ANY of us When did you first think, I might

not be talking to my bank? I didn't. It was only until I received a phone

call to explain that all the money had been transferred out of my

account. I was shocked and felt sick. The people we meet ended up

losing thousands of pounds. But how sympathetic will the banks be if it

happens to you? And Nikki Fox is back -

along with her swab mob. Yes last week we tested

cleanliness at the big high Tonight we're looking at some

of the big name hotels. Get ready for some more surprises

when we reveal what we found. Don't forget you can get in touch

with the researchers You can email us at

[email protected] or we're It's another packed show -

we cant wait to get started. And we're looking forward to having

you with us back here at 8. Anything that you would like sorted

out for you? I'm nervous about the cleanliness of hotels given that I

stay in hotels a lot of the time. Something I'd like them to sort out.

You know, crisps. You know grab bags, they say "To share". Is that a

legal thing? You mention hotels. You are starting a year-long tour.

Adele, I don't know if you've heard, has just had to pull the last few

dates of her tour. Do you have any tricks up your sleeve to keep the

pipes in working order? I'm not going to say. I took quite a bit but

I don't do what she does. She's incredible. I think she might have

been looking after herself too much. She needs to eat more chips and

chocolate. I find that helps. When you are a singer or actor, everybody

expects you to do all the exercises. When you are a comic just telling

rude jokes, people don't think that you do that. I have to steam my

voice, I have to do exercises. They are the only exercises I do. Joanna,

do you do anything for your voice? I do. Before I do voice-overs or

anything like that. There was a exercise that Noel Coward had. It

gets all of your lips and tongue muscles working. It stops you

blurring. I have another one. I could have yours on to nod off to on

a night-time. It's so soothing. Your show is called Control Enthusiast.

What does that mean? I've been called a control freak. I don't

think it's very positive. I changed it to Control Enthusiast. I'm

enthusiastic about control. It makes absolute sense. My friend pointed

out that I'm in control of my own insults now. Being in control is a

good thing but being a control freak is a bad thing. In your family

group, there's always one person who books all the tables and sorts out

when everybody is meeting. Everybody else just turns up. I am that

person. While you might hate me, you can't live without me! You wouldn't

do anything. You'd just be in the house. Because of me, you'll be

somewhere at 7pm eating your dinner. It's not just big things. You are

quite pernickety. Is that the right word? I wasn't aware that there is a

wrong way to eat a biscuit? There is. I've done a lot of extensive

research. The wrong way to eat a biscuit, I don't know if you even do

this, I don't know if everybody does this. Some people bite them and they

go back and have another bite. I don't get it. You just dunk and it's

in. Have you always been like this? Like this? You know... In later

life, when you say, you've always been that person, have you always

been that person in the family has it developed? My sister is the

person that organises her works do and friendship things, my dad was,

as well. We are a family of control enthusiast is. If you don't organise

something, it doesn't happen. Or, they are all going out without you.

Which is possible. I didn't realise... That's a thing, isn't it?

I just like things being right. One thing I'm delighted about is the

fact that you've moved out to the countryside recently. Here you are,

pointing out, your first problem. Here we go. One of the main

differences I noticed having moved to the countryside is that power

cuts last a lot longer. The first one lasted 26 hours. I've never

experienced that before. We prepared for a night without it. Luckily, my

husband is quite the Bear Grylls. He went foraging for curry. APPLAUSE

You are few years into country life. You still foraging? Foraging for

curry. Do you feel like a bona fides country person? Yes, of course. In

the past, if I walk the dog, I felt something from a branch going in my

hair, like a creepy Crawley, I would scream and need something like a nit

comb. Now, I'm just like that and carry on walking. That's what makes

you a proper countryside person. If you just kill it and move on. I

don't even wash my hair when I get in. We will get you an country file

before long! Earlier in the show, we were left with a huge cliffhanger.

What happened? The now discovered crew of HMS Campbeltown, heading in

the wrong direction. What happened to them? France 1942, British army

commanders taking on a mission impossible. With the Navy, sailing

deep into enemy water on a boat disguised to look like a German

warship. Their target was this dock at Saint-Nazaire in German occupied

France. One of the commanders on the mission was Sergeant Tom Durante. I

am joining his nephew to revisit the mission. He was in the Royal Corps

of engineers and in his early 20s he volunteered. They wanted physically

fit people. The training was quite intense. I imagine the commanders

weren't able to tell the families what they were up to. They were

allowed to write the last letter home. Which I have here. My dear

Mum, I have enclosed ?20 two shillings as I won't be needing it

where I'm going. I can't tell you where I am but if anything happens,

you will be notified. Lots of love. Ever yours, your loving son, Tom.

Tom and all of the other raiders were given the chance to withdraw

from the mission before it began. Not one bit. As shown in this

reconstruction, the disguised HMS Campbeltown got four miles down the

estuary against all odds before cover was blown. As the Campbeltown

headed for the dock gate, Tom was in a tiny wooden launch boat about to

engage in a massive battle with the German destroyer. He had blood

pouring from his arm. You start up. You couldn't make yourself an easier

target. Constant fire from the Germans. Despite being hopelessly

outgunned, Tom continued to fight. He just kept firing until he passed

out through lack of blood. The cars of commandos like Tom, Campbeltown

was getting through but at the last minute, the crew realised they'd

been heading to the wrong part of the dock. The destroyer had to

swerve to starboard. Try to get everything on line to hit the dog

ate exactly in the middle. Packed with massive charges, the ship

battle forward and smashed into the dock gate. But the explosives didn't

go off. After a fierce battle on land, the Germans boarded the boat,

unaware it was a ticking time bomb. They thought they were completely

safe. The sun keeps going up. At 10:30am. Boom! The dock was

destroyed. But the triumph came at a cost. Of the 621 British raiders,

169 died, including Tom. Some escaped whilst others became

prisoners of war. Their sacrifice meant that the impossible mission

had succeeded. Thomas Durrant whose bravery led to that success is

buried here at Saint-Nazaire. But Tom's death wasn't the end of his

story. His parents received notification that he was to be

awarded a posthumous Victoria Cross. Who recommended him for the Victoria

Cross? The German commander of the vessel visited the leader of the

commandos in prison at the time and he said to him that whoever that

person was he was fighting against deserve the highest award. So the

German commander was the person who recommended him? That's amazing. I

would imagine it's very emotional. How do you feel being here?

Extremely proud but the emotions do run very high. It's an honour to be

here. Every year, a member of 24 Army engineers is given the Thomas

Durrant award. A reminder of the impossible mission and the men who

made it a reality. Dan Snow is here to tell us what happened next. He

wasn't the only soldier honoured. It's not known as the greatest Raid

for nothing. For more people got the Victoria Cross. The commander of

Campbeltown itself, Sam Beattie. The left-hand kernel who jumped out and

fought the Germans, Agusta 's Newman. Robert Ryder and William

Savage who stayed at his gun in extreme danger when he was killed.

Very unusual. And what eventually happened to the German ship? It

couldn't go out into the Atlantic because it had nowhere to repair. It

stayed stuck up in Norway. The Raid worked perfectly and, eventually,

after nine attempts by brave young men it was finally sunk by the

dambusters. The same squadron that broke the dams. They finally sank

the tablets. -- Tirplitz. Churchill had a place not far from here where

he generated ideas. Some insane ideas, some leading to,

like limpet mines, inventions used on the battlefield. Developed right

here. There were other impossible missions. Yes, Joanna, you and your

Father know about this. Some amazing missions. We have a few ones here.

Mantle be those. These guys, in scuba-diving gear, strapped to a

torpedo. A midget submarine, but it is a torpedo. You would strap a mind

to the underside of a ship and then it would blow up -- eight mine. It

only works accessible against two Chinese ships. The idea of using the

icebergs as well. You needed a base in the Atlantic to fight the German

U-boats, you could land planes on it, protect the merchant ships. Very

expensive to build aircraft carriers, someone had the idea that

you could create ice. You could have a floating fridge freezer. It is a

ship and floating using ice rather than metal and steel. The grey bit

is ice, 30 feet deep, you can't sink it, it will freeze up again and then

you have aircraft. Incredible idea. Did it happen? No! The idea was far

better than the reality. Unbelievably expensive. Too

ambitious. Maybe another time. A giant exploding Catherine wheel.

They launch it from a ship, a landing craft, this is D-Day stuff.

A man getting out of the way, not surprised. There it is, under its

own power, supposedly aimed at the German defences, the idea is it

would blow up when it hit a concrete wall. It didn't really get used. We

had a robot like that on Robot Wars. Quite destructive. You may be

surprised to hear that the contactless credit and debit cards

are almost ten years old. Can't believe that. The tap and go action

is being blamed for making it too easy for us to run up large debts

without thinking. ?8 90, please. How convenient is that? Gifts, coffee,

tap, tap and away. In its half yearly report the Bank of England

has claimed contactless cards are helping to help fuel a rise in

household debt. We spent ?4 billion on them in April, a 150% rise on the

same time last year. So are these cards making it too easy to rack up

debt? I think they are easier to spend, maybe, it is just a click.

You just walk up and press the machine. I use it very frequently.

Then again I'd still be buying the same stuff. I guess I don't think so

much about making payments because it is so easy. Why do you think it

is different spending money when it is contactless? You don't have the

money in your hand. Psychologically it isn't like you are spending the

money. I don't think as much about the amounts until I checked on the

phone to see what it was. Lemonade was ?3 the other day, unbelievable.

It was contactless. Apparently we are spending 150% more than a year

ago. They are putting it down to contactless. I hope I'm not spending

150% more but I might be! It depends on your personality. I keep a log of

check on my money. Would you say that there are changes in your

spending money? You're not thinking about the price you are paying. My

impression is not that things have gone up, it is the consumer

behaviour. You don't have as much thought process to go through. It is

nice when you are out, you don't have to carry so much cash. You got

to be careful because you just tap it on the machine. Do you see people

doing that? I see myself doing it! Technical Tommy is here with more of

your suggestions. Still coming in. So many suggestions. Sue suggests,

why don't you all just moved to Wales where the Mobile signal is

rubbish? You won't have any problem. Suzanne has a brilliant suggestion

for beating Wi-Fi, saying to change the password every night and then

you set the kids tasks and if they don't finish them, they don't get

the pass code. We should say that we are not against mobile phones here.

It is just helping people to calm down. To limit it and see it is part

of life, it is not everything. Tom in Suffolk says no mobile phones in

his world, he and his friends will only have it and the end of the

night for a quick selfie! LAUGHTER It is getting worse, Tommy! Olive

says that her daughter insists that her son leave his phone downstairs

at night but when she checked, he was just charging up the phone

cover, he had put the lead in to make it look like it. Sneaky! Phones

aren't all bad. As Kevin has pointed out from Manchester, if you didn't

have it, how would you get a picture with your favourite celebrity? Do

you mind when people get their mobile phones out and start taking

photos? Not really, not at all. It's when your people it is a bit

awkward. It is quicker than autographs. People suggest that

other people get in the photograph as well. I like it when there is a

real camera. They will never develop that picture. Doctor Haddington,

what are your thoughts, people suggesting turning off

notifications, the sounds. The interesting thing about Wi-Fi, that

is OK if you know how to turn it off in the house, because a lot of

people that know how to do it. It is a box that no one touches. What do I

do with it? The other thing which notifications, if you turn off that

is great because we respond to them in 3-5 seconds on average. That is

interacting with your phone as well. Keep your suggestions coming in and

we are going to whittle them down and set the rules. Let's just call

them suggestions, for the family to follow and you can see what happens.

Joanne and Sarah have the makings of a great 88 but we have one that can

match them. Christine Walkden and Nadiya Hussein. We have seen them

visiting an allotment and cooking a meal with springtime produce. Now,

some are. These are some of the lovely growers

at these allotments in Birmingham. We have rhubarb and a bit of mint.

What can we expect to find? Wait and see. We start on an impressive note.

What a fantastic plot you have got, it is the poshest I have seen. It is

fancy. As it always been like this? Oh, God, no. How long have you been

here? 12 months. It is the nominal? Thank you, we are proud of its -- it

is phenomenal. You have a lot of herbs here. Chocolate mint. It's

good, isn't it? Smell it. That is like chocolate and mint. I don't

have to read it, I just love the leaves. I need some of that. I've

been so excited about catching up with my fellow foodie from the last

visit. Hello, Jazz. Last week we saw some unusual Asian veg and someone

is very pleased with himself. Look in my tunnel. Wow, it is all

happening. Yes, look at these tomatoes. They are as tall as you.

That's a bit much! There are different varieties, it this Chinese

one I got from the Internet, no one has it in the UK. We are trying it

to see how they come up. Do you know what they are? You're going to tell

me. It is like spinach that they have in the West Indies. They are

quite small but they will come up nice. This is low maintenance. By

the time you come here again we should have a good crop for you to

look at and maybe cook. That one over there, another chrysanthemum.

It looks like Christine may have met her match in another lady who is

from Cyprus. They call them bell flowers. We would call that cobra

lily. It is looking lovely. I love it. That's it. Look at that. That's

lovely. You don't get ingredients any fresher than this. I am making a

frittata, spring onions are perfect because they are fresh and they have

a mild flavour. These are perfect. Brian and his daughter Yasmin are

harvesting some beauties. It isn't cabbage we are after, we want to see

if the potatoes we planted last time are ready. With the fork. People

don't do it properly. Keep the fork away from the crop, right down and

then lift it. The trouble with potatoes is... You never know what

you've got until you dig them up. Are these disappearing potatoes?

Where are you? They are there somewhere. There they are. Here you

go. These are for you, a present from me. Thank you. See you later.

The key to this one, very fresh potatoes, spring onions and some

unusual herbs. What do I do when I get to the end? I give you another

potato, whatever keeps you quiet! Note shells. -- note shells.

Christine, what's going on? They are the crunchy bit! It is in the

eating. There you go. It is like an omelette. It is. From the dirt to a

dish within a matter of minutes and it is only right that the growers

get the first taste. What do you think? That's gorgeous, it's got a

beautiful flavour. Fantastic. Really good. Can I have some seconds?

The recipe is available on our website. Perfect film for the

pairing. You are both keen growers. Sarah, how are your tomatoes? They

are... Fine, thanks! Is doing quite well. Surprised that they don't come

back, every year I wake and I think I've got to do this again, haven't

I? Doing quite well. My strawberries haven't bothered coming back and I

feel offended! So I don't know. But I try. Mostly I have lots of clubs

with tweaks. As long as you care for them. I'm not concentrating on

anything. The squirrels and Fox's plant potatoes in my compost heap

every year so every year I go out and I have potatoes again, I have

about two kilos. I've never planted them. I have figs and plums and I

just picked them. Low maintenance. Apples and pears. We have fruit

trees but the birds eat everything before they grow, they don't wait

for the cherries to go red. Sometimes they get a plum and two

cherries and a strawberry and I'm like, look, let's have a fruit

salad! I love it, I would secretly like to have an allotment of my own

because there is something precise about it, it is just a square, you

don't need vistas and statues, you just have a lovely thing and I would

turn it into a vegetable garden and give up acting and be there every

day. I love a watering can. Who's going to be looking after it on the

tour? That's why I have got loads of twigs. Sometimes my husband does it.

We need to train the animals. You need to take control of that. Thank

you for your company. APPLAUSE

. That's pretty much all we got time for. Joanne Lumley's India begins

tonight at nine o'clock on ITV and tickets for Sarah's tour, control

enthusiasts are available now. Tomorrow we'll be joined by Michael

Sheen. Hello, I'm Colleen Harris

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