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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker...

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And it's day two of our One Show Phone Plan -

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thanks to everyone who's been in touch - we've had some great

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suggestions to help us cut down on our mobile phone obsession.

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We have indeed... Alex, we think you've come up trumps with the best

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one so far? I've smashed it today, on the way to work! Your little face

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when you came into the office... I'm devastated!

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He put this sign up on his living room door to stop his daughter Hope

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constantly using her phone - but she doesn't take any notice.

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Karen O'Riordan, she takes the Wi-Fi box to work... Drastic! She takes it

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with her so her children do the chores. And Stuart says he used to

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turn his Wi-Fi off at night but he found out that their daughter,

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Hannah, would sit in the bath connected to the neighbour's Wi-Fi

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in the middle of the night! I'm not sure what the tip is to get you off

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the Internet, maybe a new lock on the bathroom door!

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And proof that this isn't just an issue

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Nigel sent this photo in of his 88-year-old dad Dennis -

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glued to his phone while watching the One Show.

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Look at his bookcase, his house is like Dixons! He doesn't just have

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one landline, he's got two! Keep those photos going in, we love to

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see them. And tonight's guest

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is already signed-up... He's actually banned his teenage

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daughter from getting APPLAUSE

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Hello! It's not exactly all my doing... Her mum was very

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instrumental in it, she's the real enforcer. So not so much... Mean by

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name... Mean by nature! How long will you hold out? How old is she?

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She is 12 years old, not far off... And you are sticking to it? Yeah. My

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wife did a lot of research about when the brain is fully formed, and

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the microwaves from the phone which can damage young brains, explained

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this in graphic detail... To my horrified daughter. She bought into

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it. Good! You should have bought your wife with you! We came up with

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the idea... in new figures given to us

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by Deloitte - 15.5 million people in the UK worry that they use

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their smartphones too much. It's affecting family life,

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how we interact with people around us and sometimes it's

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just downright dangerous. Take this man caught on CCTV

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in a hotel in the States... No doubt left with a few bruises -

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including his pride. Her phone probably wasn't up

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to much after that dunking! The best technique yet to get your

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youngsters off mobile phones! Put paddling pools everywhere you go!

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It's a familiar sight, on the street, in coffee shops, everywhere!

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They even have a name for it. Smartphones zombies! But this

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psychologist thinks the new phenomenon and is a real cause for

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concern. I'm guilty of looking at something on my phone as I'm walking

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one place to the next, I'm trying to save time. Is there any harm?

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Absolutely. You not paying attention to your surroundings. You could miss

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any number of things going on around you. To prove his point, Lee has

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come up with a special the one showed test. We are asking the

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smartphone lovers to search the answer to the same random

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question... How many golf balls are on the moon, and who put them there?

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Text it to their contacts, see who gets the first reply. Ready,

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steady... Go! But what they don't know is while they are busy

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searching and sending, something out the ordinary will join them. Will

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they notice? I have a reply! Well done,

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congratulations. Task complete, but did the volunteers spot anything

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unusual? Did you see anything? Not a thing. I was busy messaging. You

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tuned it is nothing unusual? OK. There was a guy dressed in a gorilla

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suit...? In the experiment, only three of the ten mobile users caught

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sight of a gorilla, going some way to prove the point that many of us

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are easy Lee distracted by our phones. But what kind of effect that

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this have on us? What are the consequences of compulsive

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behaviour? I think we are just starting to understand those

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consequences, so in some research I've done, I've looked into

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cognitive failures. You forget people's names, and maybe where you

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left your keys, or a big one is people being clumsy.

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People bump into random objects and we've all seen examples of it

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happening on the street, people walking and texting walking into

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lamp posts, someone else... You engage in something quite demanding

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and you need to pay a lot of attention. Your attention is devoted

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here, so everything else receives less attention. That all sounds a

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little too familiar, but surely I'm not the only one with these

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symptoms? She's too busy, she's on the phone! Does being on the phone

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all the time affect your memory? I think you have a shorter attention

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span. You do not exercise your brain muscles as much as you should. You

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don't have to retain your information as it's on your phone

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constantly. First thing in the morning you pick it up and check

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what's happening in the world. Before you know it, 20 minutes have

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and you are late! So we admit that we are getting more easily

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distracted and forgetful, and this could all be because of our mobile

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phones. But this is supposed to make our lives easier! The good news is,

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we are not entirely to blame. James Williams is the co-founder of Time

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Well Spent, an organisation encouraging people to take control

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of their technology. Previously he spent ten years at Google and knows

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how hard big technology companies work to keep us glued to our

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screens... What tricks do they use to capture our attention? One thing

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you see in a lot of different apps is the infinite scrolling news feed.

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The psychology of this is the same psychology as slot machines, when

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you pull down to refresh the news feed, you pull down on an

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informational slot machine, in a sense. You now see autoplay videos,

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it grabs your attention more than a static image would. A common

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persuasive technique is a notification, you see the red pop-up

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of how many messages you have. And what happens to your brain when that

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happens? What happens physiologically? It is ultimately

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training us to watch the notification for the next red dot,

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or the e-mail inbox for the next message or the little noise. It's

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turned our lives into a continuous flow of rewards. When computers were

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at our desks and we could walk away, it was manageable. Now it is

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literally the first thing we look at when we wake up and the last thing

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before we sleep. We need to move from a world where technology

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maximises time spent with it to Time Well Spent. Only now do we've

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realise some of the negative consequences of our mobile phones.

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If technology companies get their way, this could just be the tip of

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the iceberg... STUDIO: James Williams, the

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co-founder of Time Well Spent, as you saw in the film, is with us now.

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And if you want to know the answer to the question "how many golf balls

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are there on the moon" - it's two!

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Yes, it is to! It's easy to blame these companies but, to be honest,

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nobody forces everyone to go onto their phones, and in a lot of

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respects, they help a lot of people. But do the companies have a sense of

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responsibility, that what they are creating is very addictive?

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??FORCEDBLUE sure, no person is ultimately to blame for this

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situation we are in. The system makes it valuable for companies to

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capture as much of our attention as they can, they call it an attention

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economy. It is the primary business model of the Internet now. Our

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phones are designed to be the most interesting things in our lives. By

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no surprise we find ourselves gravitating towards that rather than

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deeper human interactions that we value. You are a guru though, how do

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we spend less time on our phones. We need tips! I think one way is by

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managing the notification is that we get. We all get tonnes of

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notifications every day. Not all of them are as valuable as others, what

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we recommend in the Time Well Spent campaign, only accept notifications

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from people and not machines. If somebody messages or e-mails you, as

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opposed to your Twitter, saying, follow this person... Set those

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notifications right. Another is hiding apps that distract you

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personally. You could put them a fuse swipes away on your phone, give

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yourself a nudge to not use them. And search by typing in the text bar

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to navigate, you can cut down that way. One problem a lot of people

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have with phones is using them late at night. The blue light of the

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phone tells our brains that it is daytime. One thing we recommend is

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charging your phone in a room other than the bedroom, and get a

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stand-alone alarm clock. A stand-alone alarm clock?! I think

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they still make them... Do they? What is your personal motivation for

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doing this? You seem into technology, to me? My motivation is

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when I was working in the USA in the technology industry, I felt there

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was more technology in my life than ever, but it was getting harder to

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do what I wanted to do. I have been researching these issues on

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attention and persuasion over the last few years at Oxford, and I

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think it's a big moral and political question. To do anything worthwhile

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in life, we need to give attention to what matters but what is

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happening is these devices are taking away our ability to give

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attention to what matters. I hope we can steer it into the right

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direction and align the design with deeper human needs. And I think we

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need to put etiquette and manners into our plan. In a social situation

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the last thing you want is someone looking down at a phone. It is

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manners. You wouldn't put your elbows on the table, why put your

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phone? Yes Axel James, thank you. I understood about 10% of what you

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said... I'm completely out of the loop with that. The notifications, I

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get very few of them. You don't sign up to the apps in the first place,

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that is the best thing. What are they for? But some are brilliant.

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When we download, do we ask them? The motivation to get out will be

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that book called The Circle. It's great. You need to talk to Matt, you

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are both on the same page... I think it is important to look at the

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important things in life. Good pointers from James.

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But we want to hear what works for you.

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So do get in touch in the usual ways.

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We'll put them altogether into our One Show phone plan and ask

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the Farnworth family - who we met last night -

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to try them out over the summer and report back to us.

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We'll be talking about Colm's new play in a minute -

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but away from the West End stage - his CV's littered with

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all-action blockbusters like Con Air and Under Siege.

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So he knows better than most how important a good

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Unfortunately - getting the professionals in doesn't

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guarantee things will run smoothly...

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I have two main passions in life, motocross and martial arts. That's

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pretty much how I got into the film industry. My name is Olivia Jackson

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and I've worked as a stunt double for loads of lead actresses, like

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Rosie Huntington-Whiteley, Karen Gillan, and Lizzie Olsen, on Mad

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Max: Fury Road, the avengers, and a lot of other films. I worked for

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Guardians of the Galaxy in 2013. Me and my husband Dave, he is also a

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stunt man. I doubled for a character with a shaved head, she wasn't very

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attractive, but they must have liked my personality! We were living the

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dream, sharing common interests, working on amazing films. Everything

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was perfect, really. After we got married, I took on a film shooting

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in South Africa at the time. Resident Evil, it was supposed to be

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a really fun job but it ended up changing my life. On the first day

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of filming, I had to do a motorbike stunt, where you drive in a straight

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line towards an oncoming camera vehicle. It was supposed to lift the

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camera up and over me, but it didn't. It did not lift in time, so

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it slammed into my head. I was working in Malta at the time on

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Assassin's Read, I was out the night before, it was my birthday. It all

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changed in an instant. My heart stopped. It's a phone call as a

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stunt performer that you never expect. The left-hand side of my

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face was completely torn away. My shoulder, on the left-hand side, was

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pulled back and all of the nerves were ripped out of my spinal-cord. I

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dropped to my knees and was devastated because of what happened

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to her. I was in a coma for nearly three weeks, and when I woke up from

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it, the first person I saw was Dave. We had only been married four

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months, and it was a very intense situation, thinking I was going to

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lose her before our lives had even started together. I could not walk,

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I can look in The Mirror so I had no idea how my face looked. But what I

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could see was my arm, I could not move it. They told me it was

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paralysed. The amount of operations she had, the production company's

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insurance ran out very quickly. Since then we have had to self fund,

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luckily the film community have got behind us. When you don't have the

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support committee have people who understand and help along the way.

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Obviously, paralysis of the arm and intense pain that she is in...

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Living with the armour, the dead weight, it's really hard. I had a

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really big decision to make. I was so badly injured that I decided to

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amputate the arm. She has an incredible attitude. If it's not

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going to work, I don't want it. So I have to cut all the sleeves off

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all my tops off, even my jackets, I have had to cut the sleeves off. I

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have had to learn to do things in a new, inventive way. One day Dave

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came home and I was trying to cook. I asked her to make sure she

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actually cleaned her feet, that was all! I haven't really had time to be

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angry or too depressed about it, I have been focussed on trying to get

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better. Everything's changed. We had dreams of riding our motorbikes, but

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we do cruise driving. My car has been adapted to drive with one arm,

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it gives me independence and confidence. So I have been able to

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go back and to martial arts. The hardest part was to make my brain

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work together with my body again. On this bit of paper is an invite to a

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martial arts tournament. We are going to enter you into that

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tournament. Against able-bodied people, I think it will be fantastic

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for to you do. Despite obviously the challenges that she faces every day,

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she attacks it the same as she attacked everything before.

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Ultimately, it's about creating our new future together, I am sure

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whatever it is it will be amazing. So, we will get through it.

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Really inspiring attitude there. Olivia went into hospital today for

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another operation on her collar bone. We wish her all the best with

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her continued recovery. Colm, with the world you work in stunt

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performers are there all the time and make films look so great. What

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are your experiences with stunt doubles or performers or risky

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moments on set? Yeah, you are reliant on a really good stunt

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co-ordinator to say what the level of risk is. Some things are beyond,

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you know, I mean the danger level is so high that you shouldn't be doing

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it. That's happened on a number of occasions. Anything other than a

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walk across the room to me is a stunt. Absolutely. No, no, I am not

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one of these guys who does, I do my own stunts, you know. Not at all. I

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am always happy to bring the stunt person in. But I do remember one -

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it wasn't considered a stunt but on the film Con Air, with John Cusack,

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we were in the helicopter with two marine pilots, and we were doing

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this, at Salt Lake City airport, doing this take-off and going very

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close to a building. Oh! And then, I remember, I said to the pilot at one

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stage, are we going close to the building? He said, yeah, actually,

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yeah, I am glad my flight instructor is not here to see that because he

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would not allow that at all. LAUGHTER

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Why are you doing it? And I mean... Sure, yeah. But directors will want

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to get... They push it. Get closer into that and we actually when we

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got back down to the ground, we said we are not going that close ever

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again ever. No stunts in Cat On A Hot Tin Roof. It's at the Apollo

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Theatre in London. You have been rehearsing and today you did the

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second run-through. How is it shaping up? Well, you know, usually

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you have four to six weeks rehearsal before you open a show, this is a

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big play. It's a classic. Tennessee Williams at his best. And we are -

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this is our 4th week of rehearsal, going into the 5th. We are at that

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terrifying point where you are just off the book, you think you know the

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lines and you start running the play. It's sort of just it really

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is, they're nerve-racking moments, you suddenly think, because you have

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been rehearsing the play in pieces for weeks, you know, this five pages

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there and whatever. Now you take a deep breath and do the whole thing,

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which is like 70-odd pages. It's terrifying. We had our second

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run-through today. Did it go well? Yesterday, the first run-through was

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terrific. Today was, for me, particularly, was a bit more... A

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bit rocky. Because I had to come to see you guys, I got out of the

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rehearsal room quick, I haven't spoke to the director yet, I am sure

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I will get notes in the morning. The role that you are playing, it kind

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of revolves around you. You are playing Big Daddy. How does he

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compare to the other characters that you played? Hollywood, gangster,

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comedy, you have done the lot. Yeah, I haven't done a play for ten years

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either, by the way, which is a long time not to do a play. There is a

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sort of a tradition in the theatre, if you go seven years, you never do

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a play again. Right. Are you entering into this with tredpidation

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then? What seems to happen is every ten years or so, because you get

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offered a few place, but a play comes along that you can't resist,

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you know. It's like the last one was with Kevin Spacey at the Old Vic, it

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was a classic of the American theatre. This comes along, you know,

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you can't dodge it. To play Big Daddy is probably every character

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actor's ambition in his career. It's an offer I couldn't refuse. Some

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people won't know the story, it's set in the deep south in the 1950s

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but it's got really up to date themes. Very much so. People may be

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familiar, older audiences, with the original with Paul Newman and

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Elizabeth Taylor and then there's been many TV versions made. Loads of

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adaptations. And over the years, but the play itself, it's always, I

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think, been a bit sort of muted when it's been brought to the screen. The

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play is very, very raw. When it was written in the early 50s, I mean, it

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was way ahead of its time. It deals with this, I play the character Big

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Daddy and Jack oh conplays my son who is drinking his life away

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because of some disappointment we can't quite get at and his wife is

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trying to get him off the bottle and trying to get him to have a kid. And

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his wife is played by Sienna Miller and their relationship is the

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central relationship of the play really. But to find out why is this

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guy drinking himself to death, what is going on here, it's really, the

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play wades into that. It's to do with his friendship with his college

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friend and it's to do with the fact that some people thought it was

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maybe a homosexual relationship. All that is the suppression of all of

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that. That may seem to make the play dated but despite the fact that we

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have gay marriage and equality, there's still a lot of people who

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repress. This is about, not just sexual repression, but repression of

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so many levels and dysfunctional families. It's a brilliant play. It

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really is. It's at the Apollo Theatre, it's only on for 12 weeks,

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get your tickets quick. If you had to pick out a leading

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actor from the natural world - you'd probably choose the great ape

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or maybe the brown bear - which hopefully you'll be coming

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face to face with this summer, But if it's depth and range you're

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after, there's no better character Here is the proof.

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Dartmoor in Devon. 368 quash smiles of rolling hills. Wooded valleys and

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rugged Moorland. This dramatic landscape is also home

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to a true master of disguise. Hidden somewhere in this picturesque meadow

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is a species that manages to hide in an ingeneral outside way. It's

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evolved to look like something else and John Walters has been studying

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it for the last 21 years. To film this elusive insect the cameraman is

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using specialist camera equipment. At first glance, the insect we are

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after looks like a bee but don't be fooled. It's a moth. A narrow

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boreded bee hawk-moth to be precise. It's having a rest. It's warm at the

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moment. It's actually too warm for them, they often sit around for a

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while and as it cools they'll start to feed again.

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Unlike most moths, this species only flies in the daytime. They're able

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to beat their wings 100 times a second, twice as fast as some

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hummingbirds. Our footage has been slowed down by

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more than 50 times to show the wing beats. These moths are able to hover

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whilst feeding so they can make a hasty retreat from predators and the

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nectar they feed on is particularly important. They have a high octane

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lifestyle, they need a lot of energy. It's a fat body there and

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they have to power that body around the meadow. Not only do bee

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hawk-moth bear a striking resemblance to their namesake but

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they even fly quickly like a bee making their less vulnerable to

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predators whilst on the wing. And they're so convincing, even the most

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experienced naturalist can become confused. This is perfected, so much

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so, that people watch this moth for 21 years, I still get fooled by it.

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The open grass land here peppered with flowers is the perfect habitat

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for these nectar hungry bee impersonators. For the few weeks

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they're active they'll scour the meadow for most of the day. In the

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spring the males will be looking for a mate. They can pick up the scent

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of a female from around 50 metres away.

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They'll make a beeline straight for her, and once located, they'll mate

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for around 30 minutes, which isn't unusual for a moth.

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In a few days' time, the female will lay her eggs. Her work is now done.

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She makes way for the next generation of bumblebee imitators.

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In a few weeks' time the eggs will hatch, the caterpillars emerge, and

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the whole thing will have come full sieshgle. -- circle.

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Thank you, Miranda. Many surprising facts in that. What are you

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referring to? Something different. Let's have a word on The Journey.

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You are playing Martin McGuinness with Timothy Spall playing Ian

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Paisley. The likeness is incredible with you and Martin McGuinness.

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Yeah. The film is out at the moment, it was an extraordinary experience.

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Often you don't get a family am where you have two actors just

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basically in a car talking to each other for quite a large chunk of the

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film. Working with Tim, he is a brilliant actor and we are very

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proud of the film. It's not so very - it's also funny. There is a lot of

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humour. These two guys became known as The Chuckle Brothers. There is

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actually a lot of and I was relieved when I read the script there was a

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lot of humour. To lighten it a bit. It's set at the time when McGuinness

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made his move into politics and it's based around a fictional car journey

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where they begrudgingly took together. Let's look at a clip.

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OK. I do know your face. Who are you really? This is Dr Ian Paisley.

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Leader of the Democratic Unionist Party, founder and moderator of the

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Free Presbyterian Church. Cool. And you, Sir? This is Martin McGuinness,

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former Chief of Staff of the Irish Republican Army. Allegedly. There is

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an interesting story about the earpiece. Yeah, the earpiece,

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Freddie playing the driver, he is actually an MI5 plant in the story.

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He is driving us to the airport and they also have video surveillance on

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us, as well. They've sort of set this up hoping that we will talk to

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each other. Back at base you have Tony Blair and the Irish Prime

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Minister Bertie Ahern and MI5's top man played by John Hurt. That's

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where we will leave it. It's out now.

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Tomorrow Angela and I will be joined by Sarah Millican and Joanna Lumley.

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