05/10/2016 The One Show

Hello thchl is the One Show. We hope you like what we've done with the

place. Look at it. With Alex Jones And Matt Baker. Direct from Vienna

these are Maestos Beja and Pluto Briosa. Two very beautiful, highly

trained and incredibly pampered horses from the world's most famous

riding school. We will be seeing them in action later. Mesmerising.

They are go to go through reception and onto the news. We will be with

you shortly. Looking fabulous. If you are more than a plane person

than a pony person, we have the story of a daredevil landing that

will send shivers down your spine this evening. We are also going to

see how this lot here got on when we asked them to try and land a 737

when they weren't expecting it. No easy feat at all. We will be

launching a brand new Children In Need award in the name of the late,

great, Sir Terry Wogan. A lot happening tonight. It's packed. To

our guest this is evening. The first one doesn't suffer fools gladly.

Let's play, The Weakest Link. Which broadcaster and former MP founded

the teddy bear museum in Stratford-upon-Avon? I don't know.

He sounds really dull. Brandreth bran. Which former Blue Peter

Strictly Come Dancing dance was named as the male host of the One

Show. I know this. It's on the tip of my tongue. It's gone. Sorry.

Pathetic. Quizzes just aren't our thing, sorry. Do you think you can

do the One Show? I think we would be better at that. I don't think so.

How did you manage that? Clever editing. . I'm sure I never saided

that to either of you. You never came on. . Questions cut together.

You picked the part where I wasn't nice. You have an hour to make up

for it. OK. Can you actually give us another question we might know the

answer. Yes. No rehearse Al. Which fishie foodie and sport-loving Spice

Girl are currently waiting in the wings? We know this, don't we? We

doo-doo. -- do. It's Rick Stein and Mel C. Hello. Did you see the

beautiful health authoritieses on your way in? Yes. We filmed... We

didn't film the riding stables in Vienna. At the time we thought - do

they have central heating, air conditioning? They were the most

fabulous riding stables I have seen anywhere. You are allergic? I am.

Sadly, yeah. My little girl is a big fan of horses. I think she is

watching, I should say hello. She would be happy to see them. They are

gorgeous. Beautiful. Incredible. We were talking about this daredevil

landing, we are going on to this topic. It's just the most

extraordinary story. When I take off and I'm up above the clouds I wonder

if I needed to could I run into the cockpit and land that plane? Do you?

Yeah. I don't think so. Well... Not judging by the opening. Carol

Vorderman has met a man who had to keep his composure when disaster hit

at 1,500 feet. As a trained pilot, I know that flying a plane is about

technical skill, confidence and perfecting every manoeuvre. I love

flying I have 350 hours of flying experience as a pilot. Imagine that

you are a passenger, with no flying experience whatsoever, and the very

worst thing happens - your pilot becomes unconscious. You have to

land an aeroplane. That's exactly what happened to John Wyeldie. He

was forced to take over a flight mid-air when his pilot friend

slumped unconscious at the controls. I thought maybe he'd fainted. Then I

tried to find a pulse. I couldn't find one. How were you feeling at

that point? I was a bit worried. Ice thought - here I am, miles from

home. What goes next? Mayday, mayday, mayday. John had never flown

a plane, let alone land one. He had been in a cockpit before. He knew

how to make contact with Air Traffic Control. These are the actual record

prosecution that day. That's everybody's worst nightmare.

John was told to change the planned landing spot and head for the larger

Humberside Airport which had an illuminated runway to guide him in

as night was falling. An RAF helicopter was scrambled to help

him. An emergency call was put in to flight instructor, Roy Murray. I was

about to sit down for my tea - can you get back to the airport. We have

a problem. How serious is it? We can't tell you. Get back here as

quickly as possible. Roy was tasked with talking John down safely.

Hello, John. How are you? Not in the best of spirits, over.

For many it would have felt like an impossible job. Flying a plane is

incredibly complex and landing one is a huge challenge. I tried keeping

calm and keeping myself calm. When you panic it's over. Roy was trying

to get John to keep the plane at exactly the right speed and angle

otherwise it could stall and fall out of the sky. As the plane

approached the runway, Roy's worst fears were realised. When he stalled

it, I thought this is not going to go well. The port wing, the left

hand side, suddenly dropped. I could see this building go round and round

in front of me. I was worried then that I wasn't going to make it at

all. Just watch your height a minute John, you are down to 800 feet. We

would like you up to 1,000 if Sorry about that possible. . Something

went wrong and it dived to the left. Don't worry about it. I'm a bit

cheeky. John somehow managed to level the plane. After flying for

more than an hour and three unsuccessful atvrments at landing,

time was running ought. At 7.27pm John came in for his fourth attempt.

-- attempts. I was shaking like a leaf. I couldn't stop myself

shaking. My mouth was so dry. I would have given ?1 million for a

drink. You have made it. Well done. Thank God he's on the ground. That's

what I thought to myself, yep. The paramedics rushed to the scene and

found John's pilot friend had sadly died from a heart attack.

Remarkably, this terrible other deal didn't put John off flying. Two

weeks later he took up lessons. I think I am a lucky person. Being

optimistic, that is what it probably is. I'm really optimistic. My glass

is always half full. APPLAUSE.

Also, Roy, the controller on the ground. I know. How calm was that?

Amazing. The chief flying instructor you would expect him to be very

calm. Actually, the guy in the plane, he sounded sort of relaxed.

He needed a drink. I was so thirsty. You had Spice One. We did. If

anything happened in the cockpit. You three were on board. Picture the

scene, which one of you would take the controls? I would have a go, I

think. I thought you might say that, Anne. You would be OK, Rick? Not

really. Do you remember that ad, ten years ago, it ends with, "can

anybody fly a plane in." We will take to the skies again because we

have challenged these lovely people here not to land a light aircraft

but to have a go at landing a 737 passenger jet. It's a simulator,

just add that in. It's still really difficulty. That is later. Let us

talk about your documents, you have Anne Robinson's Britain coming out.

You ask four very important questions.s tell us what the

questions are and why you choose them? OK. Are you a good enough

mother? Are you happily married? What's wrong with being ugly? Body

image and what's the point of your pet? It's out there. Heckles. The

one tomorrow night is, are you a good enough mother. You need to

listen and watch. Most of us think we aren't. It's actually a phrase

from a psycho analyst in the 50s who said, all you have to be is a good

enough mother so your children trust you. What happened is parenting has

become a sort of competitive sport. It has. And so I look at the

different methods of six families, I think. How they are doing. We won't

really know the results for about 20 years. You have the high-pressure,

high-performing family, religious family, home schooling family, the

no school until seven years old family. Work before kids. Yeah. We

will have a look at Kristina, mum of three who favours the diplomatic

approach. Let's look at her in action. Do you want to ask Maxi what

happened? I was telling you off because what ever you were doing it

wasn't very good. I didn't want that to be on the TV

because you might be embarrassed or something. OK. Is that what upset

you? OK. Could you have used a different tone of voice? It wasn't a

mean tone of voice. Oh, OK. Is all that negotiation necessary? Fine if

you are in conflict resolution in Afghanistan, but in Wimbledon, I'm

not sure it wouldn't be easier just to shut a few doors and go and pour

herself a stiff drink. APPLAUSE You don't hold back then.

You never do, do you? With all of these tech niece is there one that

really kind of disgraced you or really opened your eyes? I think

they... I didn't know you could home school without any supervision. We

swapped two sets of parents and one, it's exhausting looking at her, her

kids are in the gym at 6.00am. She stays with the other mum, they are

11. Every day they walk to the woods. They haven't had any

schooling. Every day they go to the woods. They go to the woods every

day. To play and learn? Who will go to Oxford or any of them? It matters

what your priority is. What it actually should be - are they happy,

are they content, I think? The thing is, you are right. You are flooded

with advice from the minute you announce you are pregnant everybody

has a snip pet they want to share with you. Did you feel pressure Mel

before you had your little girl? Yeah, I did. I think there is so

much more out there now. So many books that everyone seems to be

following as well. I remember reading stuff and things weren't

going the way it said it was supposed to go in the books. I was

giving myself a hard time. One day I thought - she's happy. I'm high

pressury. Why don't we just enjoy it. There was life for mothers

before Gina Ford. Rick is younger than me. In my day you had Dr Spock,

there is nothing to worry about. If you are worried go to the doctor.

That was it. Now there is this... It is so flooded. It's so important.

It's almost as if my generation raised the glass ceiling for work

and somehow we've smothered women when it comes to motherhood.

Absolutely. I don't know if we have time to open the can of worms of the

point of your pet. Let's try. Why did you decide to go there? Good

question. It's a good question because there is that bit in your

stomach. You have tightened your bottom of you will watch it and

think - where do I come in this? Is it is an uncomfortable question. I

have surrounded myself with animals. I love pets. I just love... You do.

Life without an animal aura is a strange thing for me. Don't you

think it's inexlickable that people havecrats? -- cats. You come round

to rabbits a little bit. Stand by on the email inbox everyone. What can

you talk to a fish about? Why would you have fish? You can find out

tomorrow. They sing to each other. I love them on a plate. I feel sorry

for them. Which bit do you feel sorry? When I look into their eyes.

We knew we would need longer on this item, we knew it. Anne Robinson's

Britain starts tomorrow at 8.00pm on BBC One.

We've discussed parenthood and there's one issue

that plays on the minds of all new mums - breastfeeding.

We're always told that breast is best, but Britain has lower rates

of breastfeeding than anywhere else in the world.

Lisa and Vicky are brand-new mums. And are keeping video diaries of

their first weeks breast-feeding their babies. Here goes. Finally got

her to latch. She is now fairly happy about it. So why the interest

in mums doing what mums do? Well it seems here in the UK, they don't.

Only one in every 200 children here in the UK is breast fed to the age

of one. Maybe Vicky and Lisa's experiences can help us understand

why. Back in February, at a prenatal

class both were keen to breast-feed. I would like to be able to

breast-feed for between four to six months ideally. How I don't know if

this is going to be possible. I would like to breast food for six to

eight month, preferably, but I am not going to put myself under

pleasure if it is not possible to do so. How will really match up to the

theory? It is May and Lisa has just given birth to a baby boy. Arthur

James is two-and-a-half days old. He is doing well. He didn't though what

to do, it was a learning process for both of us. Her days and nights

revolve round breast-feeding Arthur every couple of hours. It is 7.30 at

night. I have been up since 6.30 in the morning and through the night.

My days are merging into one. Arthur's three weeks old today so we

have managed to do it. I am happy. Like most new mums lice is a's life

is tears and tiredness It is emotional today. Today. Hormones are

everywhere. Tutting Vicky gives birth to Olivia. This is her first

feed, at just over 11 hours old. But after three days at home, a worrying

development for Vicky and Olivia. Had a few complications in relation

to Olivia's weight. She dropped quite a lot of weight after being

born, and has not had enough breast fed milk, which has meant we are

back in, back in hospital. I caught up with Lisa and Arthur,

who is now 15 weeks old. So Lisa, it has been a rocky road for you, when

it has come to breast-feeding? Yes. We thought it was going to be he

would though what to do and I would. We didn't think it would be lots of

trial and errors. One day we are up and doing well then something

changes and we go back down again. Five weeks on from their early scare

I meet up with Olivia and Vicky. We were readmitted to hospital because

she lost 14% of birth weight. Describe what that is like to not be

able to breast-feed your own baby. You can feel you are not bonding. I

understand how some mothers go through postnatal depression, they

can't provide the milk. I must be understand that is traumatising and

it was for me a bit. Former midwife turned baby feeding specialist Clare

Byam-Cook isn't surprised by our low breast-feeding rates and think the

expert advice hasn't been entirely helpful. I think in recent years we

have concentrated too much on telling mothers why they should

breast-feed, and not nearly enough on examining why they are finding it

so difficult. They all know it is best and it is best, but only if it

is working well. It real I will do the babies no harm to be given

formula. They will still grow up healthy and happy. Have their

experiences changed our mum's plans to carry on breast-feeding. Are you

considering breast-feeding after a year? No I want my life back. I

understand the nutritional value but it is more the fact that I don't

know if I want to. I don't know. I can't think beyond the few months we

are doing now. I think I want to get myself back. I know my work

pressures when I go back mean I may not be home in time to do that.

Views echoed by working mums at the local breast-feeding support group

It is hard for women to express, running a household, going back to

work. It wasn't easy to get him on a bottle. When I go back to worker

needs to take milk from someone else. There is one thing all new

mums agree on: I love being a mummy but it is hard, the hardest job I

have ever done. And the expert from the film Clare Byam-Cook joins us

now. Welcome clear, we know that we are -- women find it hard to feed

but that problem is universal. Why are less women here in the UK doing

it than in any other country? I think, my real view is they are not

as well prepared. So, at the moment, I feel there is far too much

emphasis on why mothers should be breast-feed and not nearly enough on

teaching them how. Everyone glosses over the potential problems, now, my

daughter has just had a baby in Singapore, she got given a great big

booklet about breast-feeding and to my amazingment many pages was

devoted to common breast-feeding problems and listing all the common

problems and what do if it happened. We don't do that here we don't like

to mention any potential problems in case it frightens mothers. What if

you can't breast-feed? You are left feeling really rough about it.

Absolutely right. Funnily enough what the title of my book is and

What If You Can't because I think lots of mothers can't, and that is

why there is so much pressure saying you must do it. If the mother is

failing, she is made the feel a failure rather than the experts

recognising they are teaching her the wrong thing, which is why she

can't do it, or she can't, in which case stop making her feel a failure.

What would be a profile, I am taking over... Do I I have to answer this

question correctly. The profile of somebody who would give up with and

don't try any more.. The two main problems that can't always be sorted

is mothers not having enough milk, so lots don't even though they are

doing everything right and some babies can't suck properly, and

people say that breast-feeding is natural, so everyone can do it,

well, if you ask any farmer why he bottle-feeds some lambs it is

because they can't breast-feed. And when you speak to a darely

farmer he will tell you that not all his cows produce the same amount of

milk. Some o prize dairy cows and others aren't. This is what I find

with mothers and babies. One of the problems is as well, as a desperate

mum is looking on internet sand seeing forums and kind of self

diagnosing as well, which is, it can be a real issue. The forums can be

helpful as support but in many cases they are dangerous, because you get

these mothers, you know, like the other day I saw a mother had posted

her baby had lost loads of weight and she was under a lot of pressure

from the health professionals to give formula, and up pops a replay

saying no, whatever you do don't give formula, that is the wrong

thing, when my supply is low I ate a bit more. You think, how can you

give this medical advice? Because your milk supply improved when you

ate more, doesn't mean every mother in the world's world improve. Somes

advice puts pressure and is dangerous. It comes at you from

every angle from the off. And conflicting advice, if you ask any

mother, one of the fist things they say is they didn't expect it to be

as hard as it is. They feel a failure if they can't get past

square one, which is getting the baby to latch on and they get

conflicting advice. We will have to leave it there. Thank you.

Last week as we covered here on The One Show the friends and family of

Sir Terry Wogan came together at Westminster Abbey to celebrate the

life of a remarkable man. The tonight we have the privilege of

launching an award in his nape. The Sir Terry Wogan Fundraiser of the

Year Award. Recognising those who have in their own way fund-raised

for BBC Children In Need. And inspired others do the same. More on

that in a second. A word from Sir Terry himself first.

Tonight we can all make it count. Really count for the children. The

late Sir Terry Wogan was a tireless fund-raiser. For over 30 years he

inspired thousands to donate their time and energy, to raising money

for Children In Need. That wasn't worth a donation, I will

fall down again! Fund-raisers have found drive, bold,

and some might say plain silly ways to raise cash. What is going to

happen? How much is coming off. Everything. Two people raised money

by sitting in a bath of jelly. From the weird to the wacky. You mad

demented fools. Dedoesn't do it without you. Every penny has helped

to change a young life. Raising over ?840 million to date.

And just when we think we have seen it all... The ideas just keep on

coming. I am thunder struck, astounded and

just astonished at the generosity of the British public.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE We do know that lots of you are

already busy planning what you are going to do for Children In Need, so

if you know of a person or a group that has shown creativity,

commitment and inspiration while raising money for BBC Children In

Need this year, do nominate them for the Sir Terry Wogan Fundraiser of

the Year Award. You can nominate yourself. It is all about how you

raised the money. So you can pick up a nomination form at your local post

office branch and nominations close at midnight on 19th October.

For full terms and conditions, they can be found on the Children In Need

website. We have had a message from Sir Terry's son Mark.

We hope this award continues to encourage the great work of the

public and they do on behalf of Children In Need. We would like to

thank, Matt Baker, for coming up with the idea, and help to create a

real legacy of which we as a family are proud. Well that is very nice to

here. -- hear. APPLAUSE

It is a way of keeping his legacy going. Let us talk about long

weekend. We have loved looking through this book, we have planned a

weekend from start to finish. Friday to Sunday. So it's a television

series and a book that cones sizing together. Yes, when I started it I

was thinking this is a bit difficult to make that book, right. It went on

to fantastic Bordeaux, you name it, places of fabulous food and you

think, well, I am going to get some unbelievably good recipes, which of

course, but they are making it into a book that people want to buy, what

is that? Then I suddenly started thinking about my youth, right, when

I was in my 20s and 30s we had the restaurant in Padstow, we shut in

the, at the end of September, and we didn't open again, my and my first

wife Gill, till March. Every winter, we would go away, we would go way to

places like Australia and India and all that, but also, we would invite

friends down for a long weekend. We would start, I would cook and it was

a good opportunity for me to practise things I didn't, that

weren't fish, really. We used to start cooking on a Friday fight and

they would come down, they would be a bit frazzled because they had been

driving down Cornwall from London, so I would make something quick and

easy, on Saturday nobody got up particularly early so I would make a

brunchy thing, then we might have a bit of lunch but the thing that

mattered was Saturday night. That was the big one. And in the book I

wrote Saturday night's all right for fighting, right? But it wasn't, and

I put, about Friday night, the easy beats, Monday got Friday on my mind,

so, what I meant was that Saturday night you are so bowled up, it is

like a restaurant, it is about doing something big. Sunday, you are

starting to run down a bit, Sunday lunch is a family thing so all the

recipe in the books are all for family things you share as a family,

then Saturday, Sunday night, is comfort, it is food you make,

because you have week ahead and you don't want to think about it. You

want something nice, plus I think people tend to cook more and cook

more elaborate things at the weekend because they have time to I got the

idea from when I was little, in my house in the holiday house we had in

Cornwall, they had a book called The Weekend Book, and it was, it was...

It was your mum's book. Yes, it was what you did before there was TV, it

was full of puzzles and singalong songs and recipes, and that is the

sort of idea in my mind, it is the weekend, it is special.

It's a travelogue as well. Yes. You have taken the recipes from all over

the place, off the beaten track? The thing about the programme, it's not

just about the food, it's about enjoying where you are. Food is the

way into it. Local food, that's in any particular area, it's a good way

of understanding what people are all about. We will have a look at how

much you enjoyed Iceland. Iceland! What! I will summon up courage as

the smell coming off it is actually revolting. OK, here we go. Crikey!

You have tasted it before? No I haven't. Relaxed your face. Enjoy

it. Breathe in. I can't breathe in, it's coming out of my nose. It's the

most disgusting thing I've ever tasted. What was that then, Rick?

Nice sweater. Very nice jumper. I love the range of emotions you go

through in 15 seconds. It's fun doing it. It's only ammonia. You

know... Shark, what was that? Skate. The member of a shark family. What

was great, I said to the crew, right, anything I taste, you've got

to taste. We set it up a bit. The next shot is them sort of... Come

on. There you go! They can't get out quick enough. That's the bit I love.

Pete really tripped up. I know him. You know he's a bit clumsy. He

tripped up on the wire. It wasn't set up. That is your perfect

Saturday night dish then. Rick Stein's Long Weekends comes out

tomorrow and the series, you saw the footage there, continues on BBC Two

later this autumn. It's almost time to join the magnificent horses of

Vienna. They're the royalty of the riding

world and they each travel Before that we sent our own grooming

guru, Michael Douglas, to a very different kind

of equestrian event. Welcome to the Stow Horse Fair

here in the heart of the Cotswolds. For Romany gypsies this 540-year-old

event is a regular It's a mud-spattered world of horse

trading, deals, bridles and whips. Just like a normal day

in the salon for me. But it's not just horses that need

grooming round here. The fair is a huge social gathering

where old friends meet and everybody First up is Ryalla Duffy,

who's been coming here for 30 years. I wash it once a week,

usually with horse I was brought up in a bowtop wagon,

very much like this. Mum and dad would sleep in a bed

at the back and the younger children And then the older boys would sleep

underneath the wagon, again on a bed of straw,

with the sheep round. They were very hardy

people in those days. Bad weather aside, another element

that the Romany Gypsies can Shops close, businesses

close, pubs close. I think they feel that we are

invading their little It's sad because the people that

grew up on the land and that lived with the land and worked

with the land, they have moved off and gone and we have sort of got

the yuppies and guppies here now. And they are the ones

that complain, bitterly. Let me take this off and I'll show

you the goods. Over the four days of the fair,

horses are bought, sold So next up is horse

trader, John Doe. What kind of things are people

looking for when they A good horse man will be able to age

a horse by his teeth and What is this horse going

by here, this is a beauty. That would be a heavy

hunter-cum-wagon horse. All these horses seem to look very

similar to me. They are all kind

of black and white. They would be your standard

gypsy cobs. Designed for pulling

wagons in new trolleys. Whereabouts do you live,

John? So you travel around

with a horse-drawn caravan? All right, so it's like

proper old school? I mean, this now would be

like your full transit or your 7.5 This is the equivalent

of a transit van? As much as the people,

it's important that the horses Aaron Nicklin is a horse trader,

too, and knows every Baby oil, that we put

through there. Stow Horse Fair used to stand out

from the rest, too, There's a lot of sales,

you can advertise online, so you don't have to

come to these places. People actually come out

to your own home, try the horse. So you don't have all

the travelling or anything. So what is the future for you,

if that is the case? I think we just have to go

along with it, really. And if it is the case if we have

to advertise on the internet, It would be a shame to see this

fair, this glance back But the Romany Gypsies have been

adapting for over 500 years. And as Aaron attests,

they will continue to do so. Give it to me straight

from the horse's Did you hear that lady's secret to

her hair? Horsham piano. I'm going to try it. I got you some. Mane and

tail. Let me have a smell. It's lovely. There you are. Have a sniff.

It's nice, isn't it. Very nice. These are the horses of the span

beish riding school of Vienna. They travel with a full-time groomer.

Thank you for bringing the horses and joining us this evening. Lovely

to see you. The school has been going for an incredible 450 years,

hasn't it? Why is the school so famous and so important in the

riding world? It's the only school that correct the classical art of

riding alive for these 450 years that you just said. This dates back

the classical art of riding before Christ. We still train the horses

after their principles. You have hopped off your horse for us. The

important thing is the breed, this is lipizzaner. Yp are they well

suited to this riding you talk about? The breed that comes out of

Spanish blood lines is so good for the Spanish... Oh, yes. He wants you

back. No, it's because it suits the whole performance, the jumps, the

drills. Some horses have enough gaits for solo performance and

movement. The whole performance we have with the Spanish Riding School

we can do with these horses. You absolutely adore the job. You have

been there since you were 15 riding, haven't you? Yes. How do you travel

the horses? You tour all over the world. You are very careful of them.

What does the process involve when you take them from one country to

another. We take care with who transport the horses and the grooms.

The grooms who come with the horses know them already. We have to take

care of them. Are they divas? Some of them. I thought they might be.

This is a first for you, isn't it, to be in a situation with this floor

and everything and arena. It's wonderful you have done this. It's a

real treat. It took the horses some minutes to warm-up and get used to

the environment here. Which is so unusual. We are located in the

middle of Vienna, the Spanish Riding School. This is still different.

Absolutely. They are fine. She's broken the mould, hasn't she.

Explain why? In 2008 we changed the rules, the traditions of the

Spanishish riding school. It used to be a boys club. Since 2008 we take

on women riders. Only since 2008. Come on, really? We tried to do it

earlier. It took some time. Absolutely. Everybody loves to see a

photograph of a foal. The interesting thing is about the foals

of the lipizzaner is they are born black? They change twice a year

their coat. Every time they change a little bit more, white hairs in.

Eventually they look like that. Very nice. Can you explain some of the

moves. Is Hannah doing anything specific. She is going for it. Can

you explain. That is the most collected exercise on the schools on

the ground. The horse needs to take more weight on the behind end, carry

itself. Has to be very balanced. So this is a very high-level exercise

that she just does. It's beautiful. It's so Majestic the way they move.

Wonderful. A big thank you to Hannah. Do you want to give a name

check to your horses. I would hate to get them wrong. They are Maestos

Beja and Pluto Briosa. Thank you to all from the Spanish Riding School

of Vienna for making it happen. You will be performing live, going

on a tour, London and Birmingham next month. Thanks for stopping by.

Much appreciated. You're very welcome.

Earlier we saw John Wyeldie successfully take the reigns

of a light aircraft when its pilot collapsed.

Now it's time to take to the skies once more.

Carol Vorderman has set four non-pilots an even bigger challenge.

John Wyeldie showed extraordinary courage when his pilot fell ill and

had to land a light aircraft having never flown before in his life Co a

person with no piloting experience go a step further and land a

passenger jet? To find out I've brought four unsuspecting members of

the public to this state-of-the-art aviation facility. These hi-tech

simulators cost around about ?10 million each. Once you are inside

they emulate an airliner in almost every single way. Our volunteers

think they are here for a One Show science test, but they have no idea

what that will be. In a few moments they will be thirst into the pilot

seat of of a passenger jet in a mid-air emergency as if they have

been summoned economy to land the plane. No pressure. No pressure,

darling. How are you feeling right now? Terrified. Are you? To become

an airline pilot takes years of intensive training. Our novices have

minutes to get to grips with the controls. No pressure. The man

talking them down is mergs instruct -- instructor. This

is Joe. This is Andy. Who am I talking to. Joe. I will help you

land this aircraft safely. With an arare of dials and controls, clear

instructions from Andy will be vital. Lower the yoke. Which one,

the steering wheel? Yes. Stressful. The yoke controls up, down, left and

right and the throttle is the power. Both are critical to keeping the

plane airborne and need careful handling. Emily, who has a fear of

flying, struggles to keep control. If the plane tilts too far it could

lose lift and plummet to the ground. She is banking hard. Look out of the

window and roll the aeroplane level. Push forward on the stick. Keep

pushing forward. Excellent. Well done. You are back in controlled and

you're climbing. It could have gone badly wrong at that point. We were

close to either stalling or spinning as well. Incredibly, all our pilots

managed to keep the plane airborne. Flying is the easy bit. It's the

landing that's the real challenge. Can you see lights in front of you?

Yeah. Yeah. That's the airfield. The key to a good landing is getting the

speed an approach angle right. Jess makes her first attempt. Hold

everything as it is. You're doing really, really well. Nothing bad is

going to happen here. Jess is coming in much too low. This is good. If

you can just increase your pitch. Ah That's a crash. Yes. It's all over

for Jess. Can operations manager, John, do any better? Aim at the

runway. That's it. This is going to be quite steep. Flippin heck. Turn

left. Oh, oh, oh... OK. Pitch up. Right, put full power on the engines

and pitchup. That's it. Hold everything there. Level the wings.

Oh, bloody hell, sorry. It's clear he is not going to make a safe

landing. He has to aport. Emily makes her fine Al approach. Hold

everything there. Hold everything there. And, so just keep it straight

in the centre line. Excellent. You're down. Ha-ha. Yeah! Go girl!

That was brilliant. Very well done, Emily. You did it.

It turns out it isn't that easy to land an airliner, it shows why

airline pilots go through years of training.

APPLAUSE Joining us now we have

simulator instructor, Andy Grunwell, and volunteers Joe,

Jono and Jessica. Flipping heck! We had to beep a lot

06 what you said? I know, I'm embarrassed! In all fairness, that

was a big challenge, how realise tick was that in comparison to what

the pilots go through? It is huge, it is equivalent to me taking Mel

C's bit in the wannabe video. It is a good chance it might not turn out

as well as it might have. For guys coming in off the streets like they

did, to absorb that amount of information, startle factor in raw

flying, was huge. My expectations would be we would be lucky to keep

it in the air. In a normal situation how many instruments aid with that

landing they won't have had there? The instruments are the same. It is

the lack of automatics, the automatic pilots, which is how we

fly, and again, to have them do that, stick rudder and throttle raw,

it was immense. You said to me when we were watching that, there was so

many buttons and controls, I mean, if fingers crossed, it shouldn't

happen again, if that, the situation did occur would you be happy? If

there was no other pilots I would maybe go up there and try and get

everyone safe. And Jessica, I mean, I don't know about the landing but

you are good at parking. Landing in that car park was something. What

did it feel like to have the power of that? It was daunting. I felt so

responsible for everybody on my plane. It was scary knowing I had

that power. The interesting thing is you work at an airport. Yes I have

interacted with flight deck, so it was great to be in their seat, and

thanks for helping me it was a great experience. One more time, well

done. Super effort. APPLAUSE

All Matt has been saying was how much he would like toe have a go, so

for his next birthday we know what to get him. A boy is is a boy. Mel,

your new album. It is out on the 2 #1st. It is called Version of Me

your single has had loads of radio play. Let us have a listen

# It's not working # I hear the music

# But I can't dance # I should be moving but I'm stuck

# And I need to fight this feeling # So I stay here on the floor

# I'm not supposed to love you # Not supposed to love you any more.

# APPLAUSE

It is your first album in five years, isn't it I know, it is amaze,

this is the biggest gap I have had between albums and I think it has

been a good thing. It has helped to make a stronger record. So much has

happened, there has been loss of inspiration. E, is that what has

driven the new album? Yes, partly, I think everything that happens to me,

it kind of comes out through you know my music and lyric, it is a

nice way to express yourself, as a performer it is nice when you have

written your own words and you have the true emotion. It makes it more

satisfying. Is there one song in particular that is very special to

you? Do you know, I have to say I have been ruthless with this record

for and taking my time, I was like there is not going, because

sometimes you might have a song that slips on an words and you have the

true emotion. It makes it more satisfying. Is there one song in

particular that is very special to you? Do you know, I have to say I

have been ruthless with this record for and taking my time, I was like

there is not going, because sometimes you might have a song that

slips on an album and words and you have the true emotion. It makes it

more satisfying. Is there one song in particular that is very special

to you? Do you know, I have to say I have been ruthless with this record

for and taking my time, I was like there is not going, because

sometimes you might have a song that slips on an album and you are like

"I'm not sure about that one" or the record company like it. This one I

have gone, no, if it is not good enough, it is not going on, so every

song means a lot to me.? There is no instruments at all. On this album.

There is. There is but electronically. It is a very

different sound. In the past I have been lucky, I experimented with lots

of different genre, I always being pop but this time I wanted to go

more electronic, and it coincided really well with what is happening,

there is lots of younger artists and you know, mainstream sounds, pop mew

circumstances, EDM, there is lots of electronic stuff happening. Is it

right that vibe came do you in a yoga class? Yes. As it does. It does

sound as pop star as it is. I was in LA in a yoga class, I was a bit

lost, didn't really foe what direction I wanted to go in, I knew

I wanted to make a record and I was becoming a bit frustrated, because

often in music, in pop music, people try to put you in a direction of

what is popular at the time, and you know, I am a more mature artist now,

I can't compete with artists that I love like arena or Katy Perry, or

the younger girls out there, and I just thing lyrically I have to be

different, and I was getting frustrated with people maybe

thinking that is the way I should go, and I just thought, I have

wanted do this, why don't I just do it. I have nothing to lose. Yeah. We

have to talk about the Spice Girl reunion. Do we? Yes. You don't want

to know any more. Three of them have said yes, we will go for it.

Victoria and yourself have said no. So big, hard decision or for you was

it something in you went absolutely not right for me now. It was really

difficult. After the Olympics in 2012, closing ceremony. Wonderful

life. Victoria said this is amazing but I think that is it for me. We

totally respect that, and the other four, we had a great time, we were,

let's leave the door open, let us stay in touch and talk about it in

the future, and as time went on and it got closer to the anniversary and

we were having meetings, I was feeling a bit uneasy about it. And,

it took me a long time to come to the decision and it was really

really hard, because I love the girls dearly, and you know, of

course, you know the girls are going to go on and do something, I know

they would like to have me there and makes life more difficult, so, I

felt like I was letting them down, and it is still an incredible fan

base and I felt terrible for letting them down but I had to make the

decision based on what I felt? Why didn't you do it? There is a number

of reasons, I don't want to go into too much detail, no, when we did the

Olympics, there was five of us, when we reunited in 2007 there was five

of us, it felt like it was such a celebration of everything we

achieved in the '90s, I think to go out as a four piece, for me, I

didn't feel like it was, you know, I didn't feel like it was doing

justice to the band for the fans. Do you think your voices are the same

now? Do you think singing together... Singing wise. I don't

know. I have continued to sing. But the others haven't. Everybody sang,

in varying degree, they have done different thing, but yes, you know

when we got together in 2007 it was like the old days. If you have been

there and done it and felt what it feels like to be that big, do you

want to go there again, do you need to go there again? It is

complicated. It puts you in a different place, you know, in the

media, in the spotlight, there is a lot o consider. Sometimes bands can

be be remembered as the fantastic bands they were, you don't have to

keep doing it. I have to be careful, because the girls have respected my

decision to go on and continue with my solo career and I respect their

decision to continue, so I don't want to say anything derogatory

because I wish them all the luck in the world. The good news is they

will be looking for two new members. Members. That's it. We are in! Good

luck with the new album it is brilliant. We spoke about it for a

while. We were talking about Rick's long weekend, Mike has been on the

hunt for a bird that decided to take a break of its own.

Very exciting wildlife new, we have had tantalising reports of a bird

that has never been seen in Britain before. It goes by the wonderful

title of western purple swamphen. This is normally a bird that should

be sunbathing in the Mediterranean. It first turned up a couple of weeks

ago in Suffolk at RSPB Minsmere and just as we were about to go for it,

it disappeared. Now, it has reappeared so we thought fortune

favours the brave. We are going to go for it. We are on a One Show

twitch. I have come to Lincolnshire, to meet

one of the first people to Spotlight the bird here. The purple swamphen,

have you seen it this morning? No. Right. So far, not great news. But

it has been very elusive over the last four day, it has been in the

area of water in front of us there. That rectangle, it's a very very

long way away. Presuming if this bird has left it will have left at

night, that is when they tend to move. So, do you think it is still

here? I think it will be. I think it was not a very good day yesterday, a

lot of rain, windy and wet last night. So I doubt if it has left. I

have to stay positive as it might just have gone into the reeds.

It is a mystery why the purple swamphen has ventured so far from

home. But it could be down to weather patterns.

There has been a severe drought in parts of Spain and France. So maybe

it flew north, and kept going all the way to the UK.

The flats is gorgeous and there are amazing birds here, like spoon

bills. And black tailed birds from Iceland.

Sadly, though, no sign of a purple swamphen.

But eventually, and after weeks of chasing around the country, a

strange shape appears in the reeds. Hang on. I see a purple Bluebird

coming out of the reed bed. It is immediately identifiable.

Particularly with a colour that is a purple, green, bluey sheen all over

the plumage, it is the size that is the most revealing thing of all.

This is a big robust bird. It is like a moor hen on steroids.

The reed at the back is this plant that grows by the rhizomes. I think

it is eating then. It is grabbing the food with its big red feet.

That is nice, there is a little green that has just gone right up to

it, and doesn't really like the swamphen being there. It looks tiny

in comparison. There is a bit of a territorial dispute. Can't believe

we have got it. That is really good news. The word is out and before

long, I am joined by a whole host of expectant twitchers from all over

the country. So what do they make of this peculiar bird? It is a cracking

bird, to see one here, it is a delight. We made this attempt to see

it earlier, at Minsmere in Suffolk and failed by one day. That has to

be the youngest bird here today. And worth a journey? Yes. It is an

astonishing fact this is only western known purple swamphen in the

British Isles. It has chosen a great place to stay. There is plenty of

food here and safe locations to roost f. If it decides to hang round

who knows it may be joined by one or two more if. It the fly back to the

Mediterranean then bon voyage and thank you for stopping by. Wonderful

turn out for a purple swamphen. Staying on the animal theme. We have

had an e-mail. -Mail. Anne has missed the point, people don't keep

cat, cats keep people. Very good. That is all for tonight,

thank you to Anne, to Rick and to Mel. Mel's new album Version of Me

is released on 23 October. Anne Robinson's Britain starts tomorrow

on BBC One. We will be back tomorrow. I should have kept this

shirt! See you tomorrow. Hello, I'm Tina Daheley

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