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Hello thchl is the One Show. We hope you like what we've done with the

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place. Look at it. With Alex Jones And Matt Baker. Direct from Vienna

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these are Maestos Beja and Pluto Briosa. Two very beautiful, highly

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trained and incredibly pampered horses from the world's most famous

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riding school. We will be seeing them in action later. Mesmerising.

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They are go to go through reception and onto the news. We will be with

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you shortly. Looking fabulous. If you are more than a plane person

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than a pony person, we have the story of a daredevil landing that

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will send shivers down your spine this evening. We are also going to

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see how this lot here got on when we asked them to try and land a 737

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when they weren't expecting it. No easy feat at all. We will be

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launching a brand new Children In Need award in the name of the late,

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great, Sir Terry Wogan. A lot happening tonight. It's packed. To

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our guest this is evening. The first one doesn't suffer fools gladly.

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Let's play, The Weakest Link. Which broadcaster and former MP founded

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the teddy bear museum in Stratford-upon-Avon? I don't know.

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He sounds really dull. Brandreth bran. Which former Blue Peter

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Strictly Come Dancing dance was named as the male host of the One

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Show. I know this. It's on the tip of my tongue. It's gone. Sorry.

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Pathetic. Quizzes just aren't our thing, sorry. Do you think you can

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do the One Show? I think we would be better at that. I don't think so.

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How did you manage that? Clever editing. . I'm sure I never saided

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that to either of you. You never came on. . Questions cut together.

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You picked the part where I wasn't nice. You have an hour to make up

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for it. OK. Can you actually give us another question we might know the

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answer. Yes. No rehearse Al. Which fishie foodie and sport-loving Spice

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Girl are currently waiting in the wings? We know this, don't we? We

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doo-doo. -- do. It's Rick Stein and Mel C. Hello. Did you see the

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beautiful health authoritieses on your way in? Yes. We filmed... We

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didn't film the riding stables in Vienna. At the time we thought - do

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they have central heating, air conditioning? They were the most

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fabulous riding stables I have seen anywhere. You are allergic? I am.

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Sadly, yeah. My little girl is a big fan of horses. I think she is

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watching, I should say hello. She would be happy to see them. They are

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gorgeous. Beautiful. Incredible. We were talking about this daredevil

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landing, we are going on to this topic. It's just the most

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extraordinary story. When I take off and I'm up above the clouds I wonder

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if I needed to could I run into the cockpit and land that plane? Do you?

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Yeah. I don't think so. Well... Not judging by the opening. Carol

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Vorderman has met a man who had to keep his composure when disaster hit

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at 1,500 feet. As a trained pilot, I know that flying a plane is about

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technical skill, confidence and perfecting every manoeuvre. I love

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flying I have 350 hours of flying experience as a pilot. Imagine that

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you are a passenger, with no flying experience whatsoever, and the very

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worst thing happens - your pilot becomes unconscious. You have to

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land an aeroplane. That's exactly what happened to John Wyeldie. He

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was forced to take over a flight mid-air when his pilot friend

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slumped unconscious at the controls. I thought maybe he'd fainted. Then I

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tried to find a pulse. I couldn't find one. How were you feeling at

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that point? I was a bit worried. Ice thought - here I am, miles from

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home. What goes next? Mayday, mayday, mayday. John had never flown

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a plane, let alone land one. He had been in a cockpit before. He knew

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how to make contact with Air Traffic Control. These are the actual record

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prosecution that day. That's everybody's worst nightmare.

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John was told to change the planned landing spot and head for the larger

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Humberside Airport which had an illuminated runway to guide him in

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as night was falling. An RAF helicopter was scrambled to help

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him. An emergency call was put in to flight instructor, Roy Murray. I was

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about to sit down for my tea - can you get back to the airport. We have

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a problem. How serious is it? We can't tell you. Get back here as

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quickly as possible. Roy was tasked with talking John down safely.

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Hello, John. How are you? Not in the best of spirits, over.

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For many it would have felt like an impossible job. Flying a plane is

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incredibly complex and landing one is a huge challenge. I tried keeping

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calm and keeping myself calm. When you panic it's over. Roy was trying

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to get John to keep the plane at exactly the right speed and angle

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otherwise it could stall and fall out of the sky. As the plane

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approached the runway, Roy's worst fears were realised. When he stalled

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it, I thought this is not going to go well. The port wing, the left

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hand side, suddenly dropped. I could see this building go round and round

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in front of me. I was worried then that I wasn't going to make it at

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all. Just watch your height a minute John, you are down to 800 feet. We

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would like you up to 1,000 if Sorry about that possible. . Something

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went wrong and it dived to the left. Don't worry about it. I'm a bit

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cheeky. John somehow managed to level the plane. After flying for

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more than an hour and three unsuccessful atvrments at landing,

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time was running ought. At 7.27pm John came in for his fourth attempt.

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-- attempts. I was shaking like a leaf. I couldn't stop myself

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shaking. My mouth was so dry. I would have given ?1 million for a

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drink. You have made it. Well done. Thank God he's on the ground. That's

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what I thought to myself, yep. The paramedics rushed to the scene and

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found John's pilot friend had sadly died from a heart attack.

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Remarkably, this terrible other deal didn't put John off flying. Two

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weeks later he took up lessons. I think I am a lucky person. Being

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optimistic, that is what it probably is. I'm really optimistic. My glass

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is always half full. APPLAUSE.

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Also, Roy, the controller on the ground. I know. How calm was that?

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Amazing. The chief flying instructor you would expect him to be very

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calm. Actually, the guy in the plane, he sounded sort of relaxed.

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He needed a drink. I was so thirsty. You had Spice One. We did. If

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anything happened in the cockpit. You three were on board. Picture the

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scene, which one of you would take the controls? I would have a go, I

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think. I thought you might say that, Anne. You would be OK, Rick? Not

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really. Do you remember that ad, ten years ago, it ends with, "can

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anybody fly a plane in." We will take to the skies again because we

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have challenged these lovely people here not to land a light aircraft

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but to have a go at landing a 737 passenger jet. It's a simulator,

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just add that in. It's still really difficulty. That is later. Let us

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talk about your documents, you have Anne Robinson's Britain coming out.

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You ask four very important questions.s tell us what the

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questions are and why you choose them? OK. Are you a good enough

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mother? Are you happily married? What's wrong with being ugly? Body

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image and what's the point of your pet? It's out there. Heckles. The

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one tomorrow night is, are you a good enough mother. You need to

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listen and watch. Most of us think we aren't. It's actually a phrase

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from a psycho analyst in the 50s who said, all you have to be is a good

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enough mother so your children trust you. What happened is parenting has

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become a sort of competitive sport. It has. And so I look at the

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different methods of six families, I think. How they are doing. We won't

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really know the results for about 20 years. You have the high-pressure,

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high-performing family, religious family, home schooling family, the

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no school until seven years old family. Work before kids. Yeah. We

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will have a look at Kristina, mum of three who favours the diplomatic

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approach. Let's look at her in action. Do you want to ask Maxi what

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happened? I was telling you off because what ever you were doing it

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wasn't very good. I didn't want that to be on the TV

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because you might be embarrassed or something. OK. Is that what upset

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you? OK. Could you have used a different tone of voice? It wasn't a

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mean tone of voice. Oh, OK. Is all that negotiation necessary? Fine if

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you are in conflict resolution in Afghanistan, but in Wimbledon, I'm

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not sure it wouldn't be easier just to shut a few doors and go and pour

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herself a stiff drink. APPLAUSE You don't hold back then.

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You never do, do you? With all of these tech niece is there one that

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really kind of disgraced you or really opened your eyes? I think

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they... I didn't know you could home school without any supervision. We

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swapped two sets of parents and one, it's exhausting looking at her, her

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kids are in the gym at 6.00am. She stays with the other mum, they are

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11. Every day they walk to the woods. They haven't had any

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schooling. Every day they go to the woods. They go to the woods every

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day. To play and learn? Who will go to Oxford or any of them? It matters

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what your priority is. What it actually should be - are they happy,

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are they content, I think? The thing is, you are right. You are flooded

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with advice from the minute you announce you are pregnant everybody

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has a snip pet they want to share with you. Did you feel pressure Mel

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before you had your little girl? Yeah, I did. I think there is so

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much more out there now. So many books that everyone seems to be

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following as well. I remember reading stuff and things weren't

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going the way it said it was supposed to go in the books. I was

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giving myself a hard time. One day I thought - she's happy. I'm high

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pressury. Why don't we just enjoy it. There was life for mothers

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before Gina Ford. Rick is younger than me. In my day you had Dr Spock,

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there is nothing to worry about. If you are worried go to the doctor.

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That was it. Now there is this... It is so flooded. It's so important.

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It's almost as if my generation raised the glass ceiling for work

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and somehow we've smothered women when it comes to motherhood.

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Absolutely. I don't know if we have time to open the can of worms of the

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point of your pet. Let's try. Why did you decide to go there? Good

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question. It's a good question because there is that bit in your

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stomach. You have tightened your bottom of you will watch it and

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think - where do I come in this? Is it is an uncomfortable question. I

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have surrounded myself with animals. I love pets. I just love... You do.

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Life without an animal aura is a strange thing for me. Don't you

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think it's inexlickable that people havecrats? -- cats. You come round

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to rabbits a little bit. Stand by on the email inbox everyone. What can

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you talk to a fish about? Why would you have fish? You can find out

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tomorrow. They sing to each other. I love them on a plate. I feel sorry

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for them. Which bit do you feel sorry? When I look into their eyes.

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We knew we would need longer on this item, we knew it. Anne Robinson's

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Britain starts tomorrow at 8.00pm on BBC One.

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We've discussed parenthood and there's one issue

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that plays on the minds of all new mums - breastfeeding.

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We're always told that breast is best, but Britain has lower rates

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of breastfeeding than anywhere else in the world.

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Lisa and Vicky are brand-new mums. And are keeping video diaries of

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their first weeks breast-feeding their babies. Here goes. Finally got

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her to latch. She is now fairly happy about it. So why the interest

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in mums doing what mums do? Well it seems here in the UK, they don't.

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Only one in every 200 children here in the UK is breast fed to the age

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of one. Maybe Vicky and Lisa's experiences can help us understand

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why. Back in February, at a prenatal

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class both were keen to breast-feed. I would like to be able to

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breast-feed for between four to six months ideally. How I don't know if

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this is going to be possible. I would like to breast food for six to

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eight month, preferably, but I am not going to put myself under

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pleasure if it is not possible to do so. How will really match up to the

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theory? It is May and Lisa has just given birth to a baby boy. Arthur

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James is two-and-a-half days old. He is doing well. He didn't though what

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to do, it was a learning process for both of us. Her days and nights

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revolve round breast-feeding Arthur every couple of hours. It is 7.30 at

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night. I have been up since 6.30 in the morning and through the night.

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My days are merging into one. Arthur's three weeks old today so we

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have managed to do it. I am happy. Like most new mums lice is a's life

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is tears and tiredness It is emotional today. Today. Hormones are

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everywhere. Tutting Vicky gives birth to Olivia. This is her first

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feed, at just over 11 hours old. But after three days at home, a worrying

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development for Vicky and Olivia. Had a few complications in relation

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to Olivia's weight. She dropped quite a lot of weight after being

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born, and has not had enough breast fed milk, which has meant we are

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back in, back in hospital. I caught up with Lisa and Arthur,

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who is now 15 weeks old. So Lisa, it has been a rocky road for you, when

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it has come to breast-feeding? Yes. We thought it was going to be he

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would though what to do and I would. We didn't think it would be lots of

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trial and errors. One day we are up and doing well then something

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changes and we go back down again. Five weeks on from their early scare

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I meet up with Olivia and Vicky. We were readmitted to hospital because

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she lost 14% of birth weight. Describe what that is like to not be

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able to breast-feed your own baby. You can feel you are not bonding. I

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understand how some mothers go through postnatal depression, they

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can't provide the milk. I must be understand that is traumatising and

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it was for me a bit. Former midwife turned baby feeding specialist Clare

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Byam-Cook isn't surprised by our low breast-feeding rates and think the

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expert advice hasn't been entirely helpful. I think in recent years we

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have concentrated too much on telling mothers why they should

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breast-feed, and not nearly enough on examining why they are finding it

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so difficult. They all know it is best and it is best, but only if it

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is working well. It real I will do the babies no harm to be given

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formula. They will still grow up healthy and happy. Have their

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experiences changed our mum's plans to carry on breast-feeding. Are you

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considering breast-feeding after a year? No I want my life back. I

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understand the nutritional value but it is more the fact that I don't

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know if I want to. I don't know. I can't think beyond the few months we

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are doing now. I think I want to get myself back. I know my work

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pressures when I go back mean I may not be home in time to do that.

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Views echoed by working mums at the local breast-feeding support group

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It is hard for women to express, running a household, going back to

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work. It wasn't easy to get him on a bottle. When I go back to worker

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needs to take milk from someone else. There is one thing all new

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mums agree on: I love being a mummy but it is hard, the hardest job I

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have ever done. And the expert from the film Clare Byam-Cook joins us

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now. Welcome clear, we know that we are -- women find it hard to feed

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but that problem is universal. Why are less women here in the UK doing

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it than in any other country? I think, my real view is they are not

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as well prepared. So, at the moment, I feel there is far too much

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emphasis on why mothers should be breast-feed and not nearly enough on

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teaching them how. Everyone glosses over the potential problems, now, my

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daughter has just had a baby in Singapore, she got given a great big

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booklet about breast-feeding and to my amazingment many pages was

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devoted to common breast-feeding problems and listing all the common

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problems and what do if it happened. We don't do that here we don't like

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to mention any potential problems in case it frightens mothers. What if

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you can't breast-feed? You are left feeling really rough about it.

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Absolutely right. Funnily enough what the title of my book is and

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What If You Can't because I think lots of mothers can't, and that is

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why there is so much pressure saying you must do it. If the mother is

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failing, she is made the feel a failure rather than the experts

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recognising they are teaching her the wrong thing, which is why she

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can't do it, or she can't, in which case stop making her feel a failure.

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What would be a profile, I am taking over... Do I I have to answer this

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question correctly. The profile of somebody who would give up with and

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don't try any more.. The two main problems that can't always be sorted

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is mothers not having enough milk, so lots don't even though they are

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doing everything right and some babies can't suck properly, and

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people say that breast-feeding is natural, so everyone can do it,

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well, if you ask any farmer why he bottle-feeds some lambs it is

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because they can't breast-feed. And when you speak to a darely

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farmer he will tell you that not all his cows produce the same amount of

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milk. Some o prize dairy cows and others aren't. This is what I find

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with mothers and babies. One of the problems is as well, as a desperate

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mum is looking on internet sand seeing forums and kind of self

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diagnosing as well, which is, it can be a real issue. The forums can be

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helpful as support but in many cases they are dangerous, because you get

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these mothers, you know, like the other day I saw a mother had posted

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her baby had lost loads of weight and she was under a lot of pressure

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from the health professionals to give formula, and up pops a replay

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saying no, whatever you do don't give formula, that is the wrong

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thing, when my supply is low I ate a bit more. You think, how can you

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give this medical advice? Because your milk supply improved when you

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ate more, doesn't mean every mother in the world's world improve. Somes

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advice puts pressure and is dangerous. It comes at you from

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every angle from the off. And conflicting advice, if you ask any

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mother, one of the fist things they say is they didn't expect it to be

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as hard as it is. They feel a failure if they can't get past

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square one, which is getting the baby to latch on and they get

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conflicting advice. We will have to leave it there. Thank you.

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Last week as we covered here on The One Show the friends and family of

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Sir Terry Wogan came together at Westminster Abbey to celebrate the

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life of a remarkable man. The tonight we have the privilege of

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launching an award in his nape. The Sir Terry Wogan Fundraiser of the

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Year Award. Recognising those who have in their own way fund-raised

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for BBC Children In Need. And inspired others do the same. More on

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that in a second. A word from Sir Terry himself first.

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Tonight we can all make it count. Really count for the children. The

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late Sir Terry Wogan was a tireless fund-raiser. For over 30 years he

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inspired thousands to donate their time and energy, to raising money

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for Children In Need. That wasn't worth a donation, I will

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fall down again! Fund-raisers have found drive, bold,

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and some might say plain silly ways to raise cash. What is going to

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happen? How much is coming off. Everything. Two people raised money

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by sitting in a bath of jelly. From the weird to the wacky. You mad

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demented fools. Dedoesn't do it without you. Every penny has helped

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to change a young life. Raising over ?840 million to date.

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And just when we think we have seen it all... The ideas just keep on

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coming. I am thunder struck, astounded and

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just astonished at the generosity of the British public.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE We do know that lots of you are

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already busy planning what you are going to do for Children In Need, so

:25:30.:25:34.

if you know of a person or a group that has shown creativity,

:25:35.:25:37.

commitment and inspiration while raising money for BBC Children In

:25:38.:25:42.

Need this year, do nominate them for the Sir Terry Wogan Fundraiser of

:25:43.:25:45.

the Year Award. You can nominate yourself. It is all about how you

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raised the money. So you can pick up a nomination form at your local post

:25:51.:25:58.

office branch and nominations close at midnight on 19th October.

:25:59.:26:07.

For full terms and conditions, they can be found on the Children In Need

:26:08.:26:14.

website. We have had a message from Sir Terry's son Mark.

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We hope this award continues to encourage the great work of the

:26:23.:26:27.

public and they do on behalf of Children In Need. We would like to

:26:28.:26:30.

thank, Matt Baker, for coming up with the idea, and help to create a

:26:31.:26:35.

real legacy of which we as a family are proud. Well that is very nice to

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here. -- hear. APPLAUSE

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It is a way of keeping his legacy going. Let us talk about long

:26:50.:26:53.

weekend. We have loved looking through this book, we have planned a

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weekend from start to finish. Friday to Sunday. So it's a television

:26:58.:27:02.

series and a book that cones sizing together. Yes, when I started it I

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was thinking this is a bit difficult to make that book, right. It went on

:27:09.:27:14.

to fantastic Bordeaux, you name it, places of fabulous food and you

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think, well, I am going to get some unbelievably good recipes, which of

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course, but they are making it into a book that people want to buy, what

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is that? Then I suddenly started thinking about my youth, right, when

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I was in my 20s and 30s we had the restaurant in Padstow, we shut in

:27:37.:27:41.

the, at the end of September, and we didn't open again, my and my first

:27:42.:27:46.

wife Gill, till March. Every winter, we would go away, we would go way to

:27:47.:27:51.

places like Australia and India and all that, but also, we would invite

:27:52.:27:56.

friends down for a long weekend. We would start, I would cook and it was

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a good opportunity for me to practise things I didn't, that

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weren't fish, really. We used to start cooking on a Friday fight and

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they would come down, they would be a bit frazzled because they had been

:28:10.:28:12.

driving down Cornwall from London, so I would make something quick and

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easy, on Saturday nobody got up particularly early so I would make a

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brunchy thing, then we might have a bit of lunch but the thing that

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mattered was Saturday night. That was the big one. And in the book I

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wrote Saturday night's all right for fighting, right? But it wasn't, and

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I put, about Friday night, the easy beats, Monday got Friday on my mind,

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so, what I meant was that Saturday night you are so bowled up, it is

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like a restaurant, it is about doing something big. Sunday, you are

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starting to run down a bit, Sunday lunch is a family thing so all the

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recipe in the books are all for family things you share as a family,

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then Saturday, Sunday night, is comfort, it is food you make,

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because you have week ahead and you don't want to think about it. You

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want something nice, plus I think people tend to cook more and cook

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more elaborate things at the weekend because they have time to I got the

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idea from when I was little, in my house in the holiday house we had in

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Cornwall, they had a book called The Weekend Book, and it was, it was...

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It was your mum's book. Yes, it was what you did before there was TV, it

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was full of puzzles and singalong songs and recipes, and that is the

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sort of idea in my mind, it is the weekend, it is special.

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It's a travelogue as well. Yes. You have taken the recipes from all over

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the place, off the beaten track? The thing about the programme, it's not

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just about the food, it's about enjoying where you are. Food is the

:30:03.:30:08.

way into it. Local food, that's in any particular area, it's a good way

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of understanding what people are all about. We will have a look at how

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much you enjoyed Iceland. Iceland! What! I will summon up courage as

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the smell coming off it is actually revolting. OK, here we go. Crikey!

:30:28.:30:35.

You have tasted it before? No I haven't. Relaxed your face. Enjoy

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it. Breathe in. I can't breathe in, it's coming out of my nose. It's the

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most disgusting thing I've ever tasted. What was that then, Rick?

:30:46.:30:55.

Nice sweater. Very nice jumper. I love the range of emotions you go

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through in 15 seconds. It's fun doing it. It's only ammonia. You

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know... Shark, what was that? Skate. The member of a shark family. What

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was great, I said to the crew, right, anything I taste, you've got

:31:20.:31:24.

to taste. We set it up a bit. The next shot is them sort of... Come

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on. There you go! They can't get out quick enough. That's the bit I love.

:31:32.:31:42.

Pete really tripped up. I know him. You know he's a bit clumsy. He

:31:43.:31:47.

tripped up on the wire. It wasn't set up. That is your perfect

:31:48.:31:54.

Saturday night dish then. Rick Stein's Long Weekends comes out

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tomorrow and the series, you saw the footage there, continues on BBC Two

:31:59.:32:06.

later this autumn. It's almost time to join the magnificent horses of

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Vienna. They're the royalty of the riding

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world and they each travel Before that we sent our own grooming

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guru, Michael Douglas, to a very different kind

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of equestrian event. Welcome to the Stow Horse Fair

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here in the heart of the Cotswolds. For Romany gypsies this 540-year-old

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event is a regular It's a mud-spattered world of horse

:32:27.:32:28.

trading, deals, bridles and whips. Just like a normal day

:32:29.:32:37.

in the salon for me. But it's not just horses that need

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grooming round here. The fair is a huge social gathering

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where old friends meet and everybody First up is Ryalla Duffy,

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who's been coming here for 30 years. I wash it once a week,

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usually with horse I was brought up in a bowtop wagon,

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very much like this. Mum and dad would sleep in a bed

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at the back and the younger children And then the older boys would sleep

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underneath the wagon, again on a bed of straw,

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with the sheep round. They were very hardy

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people in those days. Bad weather aside, another element

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that the Romany Gypsies can Shops close, businesses

:33:32.:33:34.

close, pubs close. I think they feel that we are

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invading their little It's sad because the people that

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grew up on the land and that lived with the land and worked

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with the land, they have moved off and gone and we have sort of got

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the yuppies and guppies here now. And they are the ones

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that complain, bitterly. Let me take this off and I'll show

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you the goods. Over the four days of the fair,

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horses are bought, sold So next up is horse

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trader, John Doe. What kind of things are people

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looking for when they A good horse man will be able to age

:34:19.:34:20.

a horse by his teeth and What is this horse going

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by here, this is a beauty. That would be a heavy

:34:26.:34:32.

hunter-cum-wagon horse. All these horses seem to look very

:34:33.:34:33.

similar to me. They are all kind

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of black and white. They would be your standard

:34:37.:34:38.

gypsy cobs. Designed for pulling

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wagons in new trolleys. Whereabouts do you live,

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John? So you travel around

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with a horse-drawn caravan? All right, so it's like

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proper old school? I mean, this now would be

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like your full transit or your 7.5 This is the equivalent

:34:55.:35:04.

of a transit van? As much as the people,

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it's important that the horses Aaron Nicklin is a horse trader,

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too, and knows every Baby oil, that we put

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through there. Stow Horse Fair used to stand out

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from the rest, too, There's a lot of sales,

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you can advertise online, so you don't have to

:35:45.:35:47.

come to these places. People actually come out

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to your own home, try the horse. So you don't have all

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the travelling or anything. So what is the future for you,

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if that is the case? I think we just have to go

:35:55.:35:57.

along with it, really. And if it is the case if we have

:35:58.:36:00.

to advertise on the internet, It would be a shame to see this

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fair, this glance back But the Romany Gypsies have been

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adapting for over 500 years. And as Aaron attests,

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they will continue to do so. Give it to me straight

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from the horse's Did you hear that lady's secret to

:36:18.:36:38.

her hair? Horsham piano. I'm going to try it. I got you some. Mane and

:36:39.:36:44.

tail. Let me have a smell. It's lovely. There you are. Have a sniff.

:36:45.:36:51.

It's nice, isn't it. Very nice. These are the horses of the span

:36:52.:36:56.

beish riding school of Vienna. They travel with a full-time groomer.

:36:57.:36:59.

Thank you for bringing the horses and joining us this evening. Lovely

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to see you. The school has been going for an incredible 450 years,

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hasn't it? Why is the school so famous and so important in the

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riding world? It's the only school that correct the classical art of

:37:14.:37:17.

riding alive for these 450 years that you just said. This dates back

:37:18.:37:23.

the classical art of riding before Christ. We still train the horses

:37:24.:37:32.

after their principles. You have hopped off your horse for us. The

:37:33.:37:37.

important thing is the breed, this is lipizzaner. Yp are they well

:37:38.:37:41.

suited to this riding you talk about? The breed that comes out of

:37:42.:37:51.

Spanish blood lines is so good for the Spanish... Oh, yes. He wants you

:37:52.:37:58.

back. No, it's because it suits the whole performance, the jumps, the

:37:59.:38:04.

drills. Some horses have enough gaits for solo performance and

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movement. The whole performance we have with the Spanish Riding School

:38:10.:38:12.

we can do with these horses. You absolutely adore the job. You have

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been there since you were 15 riding, haven't you? Yes. How do you travel

:38:17.:38:20.

the horses? You tour all over the world. You are very careful of them.

:38:21.:38:25.

What does the process involve when you take them from one country to

:38:26.:38:30.

another. We take care with who transport the horses and the grooms.

:38:31.:38:33.

The grooms who come with the horses know them already. We have to take

:38:34.:38:39.

care of them. Are they divas? Some of them. I thought they might be.

:38:40.:38:44.

This is a first for you, isn't it, to be in a situation with this floor

:38:45.:38:48.

and everything and arena. It's wonderful you have done this. It's a

:38:49.:38:52.

real treat. It took the horses some minutes to warm-up and get used to

:38:53.:38:55.

the environment here. Which is so unusual. We are located in the

:38:56.:39:00.

middle of Vienna, the Spanish Riding School. This is still different.

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Absolutely. They are fine. She's broken the mould, hasn't she.

:39:08.:39:11.

Explain why? In 2008 we changed the rules, the traditions of the

:39:12.:39:15.

Spanishish riding school. It used to be a boys club. Since 2008 we take

:39:16.:39:21.

on women riders. Only since 2008. Come on, really? We tried to do it

:39:22.:39:25.

earlier. It took some time. Absolutely. Everybody loves to see a

:39:26.:39:32.

photograph of a foal. The interesting thing is about the foals

:39:33.:39:36.

of the lipizzaner is they are born black? They change twice a year

:39:37.:39:41.

their coat. Every time they change a little bit more, white hairs in.

:39:42.:39:45.

Eventually they look like that. Very nice. Can you explain some of the

:39:46.:39:50.

moves. Is Hannah doing anything specific. She is going for it. Can

:39:51.:39:55.

you explain. That is the most collected exercise on the schools on

:39:56.:39:59.

the ground. The horse needs to take more weight on the behind end, carry

:40:00.:40:05.

itself. Has to be very balanced. So this is a very high-level exercise

:40:06.:40:10.

that she just does. It's beautiful. It's so Majestic the way they move.

:40:11.:40:14.

Wonderful. A big thank you to Hannah. Do you want to give a name

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check to your horses. I would hate to get them wrong. They are Maestos

:40:19.:40:24.

Beja and Pluto Briosa. Thank you to all from the Spanish Riding School

:40:25.:40:28.

of Vienna for making it happen. You will be performing live, going

:40:29.:40:31.

on a tour, London and Birmingham next month. Thanks for stopping by.

:40:32.:40:37.

Much appreciated. You're very welcome.

:40:38.:40:40.

Earlier we saw John Wyeldie successfully take the reigns

:40:41.:40:43.

of a light aircraft when its pilot collapsed.

:40:44.:40:45.

Now it's time to take to the skies once more.

:40:46.:40:47.

Carol Vorderman has set four non-pilots an even bigger challenge.

:40:48.:40:57.

John Wyeldie showed extraordinary courage when his pilot fell ill and

:40:58.:41:03.

had to land a light aircraft having never flown before in his life Co a

:41:04.:41:07.

person with no piloting experience go a step further and land a

:41:08.:41:12.

passenger jet? To find out I've brought four unsuspecting members of

:41:13.:41:16.

the public to this state-of-the-art aviation facility. These hi-tech

:41:17.:41:22.

simulators cost around about ?10 million each. Once you are inside

:41:23.:41:27.

they emulate an airliner in almost every single way. Our volunteers

:41:28.:41:33.

think they are here for a One Show science test, but they have no idea

:41:34.:41:39.

what that will be. In a few moments they will be thirst into the pilot

:41:40.:41:43.

seat of of a passenger jet in a mid-air emergency as if they have

:41:44.:41:47.

been summoned economy to land the plane. No pressure. No pressure,

:41:48.:41:51.

darling. How are you feeling right now? Terrified. Are you? To become

:41:52.:42:01.

an airline pilot takes years of intensive training. Our novices have

:42:02.:42:04.

minutes to get to grips with the controls. No pressure. The man

:42:05.:42:09.

talking them down is mergs instruct -- instructor. This

:42:10.:42:28.

is Joe. This is Andy. Who am I talking to. Joe. I will help you

:42:29.:42:34.

land this aircraft safely. With an arare of dials and controls, clear

:42:35.:42:38.

instructions from Andy will be vital. Lower the yoke. Which one,

:42:39.:42:49.

the steering wheel? Yes. Stressful. The yoke controls up, down, left and

:42:50.:42:55.

right and the throttle is the power. Both are critical to keeping the

:42:56.:42:59.

plane airborne and need careful handling. Emily, who has a fear of

:43:00.:43:08.

flying, struggles to keep control. If the plane tilts too far it could

:43:09.:43:17.

lose lift and plummet to the ground. She is banking hard. Look out of the

:43:18.:43:21.

window and roll the aeroplane level. Push forward on the stick. Keep

:43:22.:43:27.

pushing forward. Excellent. Well done. You are back in controlled and

:43:28.:43:31.

you're climbing. It could have gone badly wrong at that point. We were

:43:32.:43:35.

close to either stalling or spinning as well. Incredibly, all our pilots

:43:36.:43:41.

managed to keep the plane airborne. Flying is the easy bit. It's the

:43:42.:43:46.

landing that's the real challenge. Can you see lights in front of you?

:43:47.:43:55.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the airfield. The key to a good landing is getting the

:43:56.:44:02.

speed an approach angle right. Jess makes her first attempt. Hold

:44:03.:44:05.

everything as it is. You're doing really, really well. Nothing bad is

:44:06.:44:11.

going to happen here. Jess is coming in much too low. This is good. If

:44:12.:44:22.

you can just increase your pitch. Ah That's a crash. Yes. It's all over

:44:23.:44:29.

for Jess. Can operations manager, John, do any better? Aim at the

:44:30.:44:35.

runway. That's it. This is going to be quite steep. Flippin heck. Turn

:44:36.:44:44.

left. Oh, oh, oh... OK. Pitch up. Right, put full power on the engines

:44:45.:44:48.

and pitchup. That's it. Hold everything there. Level the wings.

:44:49.:44:54.

Oh, bloody hell, sorry. It's clear he is not going to make a safe

:44:55.:45:00.

landing. He has to aport. Emily makes her fine Al approach. Hold

:45:01.:45:02.

everything there. Hold everything there. And, so just keep it straight

:45:03.:45:10.

in the centre line. Excellent. You're down. Ha-ha. Yeah! Go girl!

:45:11.:45:18.

That was brilliant. Very well done, Emily. You did it.

:45:19.:45:24.

It turns out it isn't that easy to land an airliner, it shows why

:45:25.:45:32.

airline pilots go through years of training.

:45:33.:45:34.

APPLAUSE Joining us now we have

:45:35.:45:37.

simulator instructor, Andy Grunwell, and volunteers Joe,

:45:38.:45:39.

Jono and Jessica. Flipping heck! We had to beep a lot

:45:40.:45:48.

06 what you said? I know, I'm embarrassed! In all fairness, that

:45:49.:45:53.

was a big challenge, how realise tick was that in comparison to what

:45:54.:45:58.

the pilots go through? It is huge, it is equivalent to me taking Mel

:45:59.:46:03.

C's bit in the wannabe video. It is a good chance it might not turn out

:46:04.:46:07.

as well as it might have. For guys coming in off the streets like they

:46:08.:46:12.

did, to absorb that amount of information, startle factor in raw

:46:13.:46:18.

flying, was huge. My expectations would be we would be lucky to keep

:46:19.:46:23.

it in the air. In a normal situation how many instruments aid with that

:46:24.:46:28.

landing they won't have had there? The instruments are the same. It is

:46:29.:46:33.

the lack of automatics, the automatic pilots, which is how we

:46:34.:46:39.

fly, and again, to have them do that, stick rudder and throttle raw,

:46:40.:46:44.

it was immense. You said to me when we were watching that, there was so

:46:45.:46:50.

many buttons and controls, I mean, if fingers crossed, it shouldn't

:46:51.:46:54.

happen again, if that, the situation did occur would you be happy? If

:46:55.:46:59.

there was no other pilots I would maybe go up there and try and get

:47:00.:47:04.

everyone safe. And Jessica, I mean, I don't know about the landing but

:47:05.:47:09.

you are good at parking. Landing in that car park was something. What

:47:10.:47:13.

did it feel like to have the power of that? It was daunting. I felt so

:47:14.:47:18.

responsible for everybody on my plane. It was scary knowing I had

:47:19.:47:22.

that power. The interesting thing is you work at an airport. Yes I have

:47:23.:47:27.

interacted with flight deck, so it was great to be in their seat, and

:47:28.:47:32.

thanks for helping me it was a great experience. One more time, well

:47:33.:47:36.

done. Super effort. APPLAUSE

:47:37.:47:44.

All Matt has been saying was how much he would like toe have a go, so

:47:45.:47:48.

for his next birthday we know what to get him. A boy is is a boy. Mel,

:47:49.:47:55.

your new album. It is out on the 2 #1st. It is called Version of Me

:47:56.:48:00.

your single has had loads of radio play. Let us have a listen

:48:01.:48:05.

# It's not working # I hear the music

:48:06.:48:10.

# But I can't dance # I should be moving but I'm stuck

:48:11.:48:14.

# And I need to fight this feeling # So I stay here on the floor

:48:15.:48:20.

# I'm not supposed to love you # Not supposed to love you any more.

:48:21.:48:25.

# APPLAUSE

:48:26.:48:32.

It is your first album in five years, isn't it I know, it is amaze,

:48:33.:48:37.

this is the biggest gap I have had between albums and I think it has

:48:38.:48:40.

been a good thing. It has helped to make a stronger record. So much has

:48:41.:48:45.

happened, there has been loss of inspiration. E, is that what has

:48:46.:48:52.

driven the new album? Yes, partly, I think everything that happens to me,

:48:53.:48:58.

it kind of comes out through you know my music and lyric, it is a

:48:59.:49:02.

nice way to express yourself, as a performer it is nice when you have

:49:03.:49:06.

written your own words and you have the true emotion. It makes it more

:49:07.:49:10.

satisfying. Is there one song in particular that is very special to

:49:11.:49:14.

you? Do you know, I have to say I have been ruthless with this record

:49:15.:49:18.

for and taking my time, I was like there is not going, because

:49:19.:49:22.

sometimes you might have a song that slips on an words and you have the

:49:23.:49:25.

true emotion. It makes it more satisfying. Is there one song in

:49:26.:49:27.

particular that is very special to you? Do you know, I have to say I

:49:28.:49:30.

have been ruthless with this record for and taking my time, I was like

:49:31.:49:33.

there is not going, because sometimes you might have a song that

:49:34.:49:36.

slips on an album and words and you have the true emotion. It makes it

:49:37.:49:39.

more satisfying. Is there one song in particular that is very special

:49:40.:49:42.

to you? Do you know, I have to say I have been ruthless with this record

:49:43.:49:45.

for and taking my time, I was like there is not going, because

:49:46.:49:47.

sometimes you might have a song that slips on an album and you are like

:49:48.:49:50.

"I'm not sure about that one" or the record company like it. This one I

:49:51.:49:53.

have gone, no, if it is not good enough, it is not going on, so every

:49:54.:49:57.

song means a lot to me.? There is no instruments at all. On this album.

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There is. There is but electronically. It is a very

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different sound. In the past I have been lucky, I experimented with lots

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of different genre, I always being pop but this time I wanted to go

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more electronic, and it coincided really well with what is happening,

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there is lots of younger artists and you know, mainstream sounds, pop mew

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circumstances, EDM, there is lots of electronic stuff happening. Is it

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right that vibe came do you in a yoga class? Yes. As it does. It does

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sound as pop star as it is. I was in LA in a yoga class, I was a bit

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lost, didn't really foe what direction I wanted to go in, I knew

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I wanted to make a record and I was becoming a bit frustrated, because

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often in music, in pop music, people try to put you in a direction of

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what is popular at the time, and you know, I am a more mature artist now,

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I can't compete with artists that I love like arena or Katy Perry, or

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the younger girls out there, and I just thing lyrically I have to be

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different, and I was getting frustrated with people maybe

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thinking that is the way I should go, and I just thought, I have

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wanted do this, why don't I just do it. I have nothing to lose. Yeah. We

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have to talk about the Spice Girl reunion. Do we? Yes. You don't want

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to know any more. Three of them have said yes, we will go for it.

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Victoria and yourself have said no. So big, hard decision or for you was

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it something in you went absolutely not right for me now. It was really

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difficult. After the Olympics in 2012, closing ceremony. Wonderful

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life. Victoria said this is amazing but I think that is it for me. We

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totally respect that, and the other four, we had a great time, we were,

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let's leave the door open, let us stay in touch and talk about it in

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the future, and as time went on and it got closer to the anniversary and

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we were having meetings, I was feeling a bit uneasy about it. And,

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it took me a long time to come to the decision and it was really

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really hard, because I love the girls dearly, and you know, of

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course, you know the girls are going to go on and do something, I know

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they would like to have me there and makes life more difficult, so, I

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felt like I was letting them down, and it is still an incredible fan

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base and I felt terrible for letting them down but I had to make the

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decision based on what I felt? Why didn't you do it? There is a number

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of reasons, I don't want to go into too much detail, no, when we did the

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Olympics, there was five of us, when we reunited in 2007 there was five

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of us, it felt like it was such a celebration of everything we

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achieved in the '90s, I think to go out as a four piece, for me, I

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didn't feel like it was, you know, I didn't feel like it was doing

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justice to the band for the fans. Do you think your voices are the same

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now? Do you think singing together... Singing wise. I don't

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know. I have continued to sing. But the others haven't. Everybody sang,

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in varying degree, they have done different thing, but yes, you know

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when we got together in 2007 it was like the old days. If you have been

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there and done it and felt what it feels like to be that big, do you

:53:19.:53:23.

want to go there again, do you need to go there again? It is

:53:24.:53:28.

complicated. It puts you in a different place, you know, in the

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media, in the spotlight, there is a lot o consider. Sometimes bands can

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be be remembered as the fantastic bands they were, you don't have to

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keep doing it. I have to be careful, because the girls have respected my

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decision to go on and continue with my solo career and I respect their

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decision to continue, so I don't want to say anything derogatory

:53:51.:53:52.

because I wish them all the luck in the world. The good news is they

:53:53.:53:57.

will be looking for two new members. Members. That's it. We are in! Good

:53:58.:54:03.

luck with the new album it is brilliant. We spoke about it for a

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while. We were talking about Rick's long weekend, Mike has been on the

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hunt for a bird that decided to take a break of its own.

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Very exciting wildlife new, we have had tantalising reports of a bird

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that has never been seen in Britain before. It goes by the wonderful

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title of western purple swamphen. This is normally a bird that should

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be sunbathing in the Mediterranean. It first turned up a couple of weeks

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ago in Suffolk at RSPB Minsmere and just as we were about to go for it,

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it disappeared. Now, it has reappeared so we thought fortune

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favours the brave. We are going to go for it. We are on a One Show

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twitch. I have come to Lincolnshire, to meet

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one of the first people to Spotlight the bird here. The purple swamphen,

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have you seen it this morning? No. Right. So far, not great news. But

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it has been very elusive over the last four day, it has been in the

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area of water in front of us there. That rectangle, it's a very very

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long way away. Presuming if this bird has left it will have left at

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night, that is when they tend to move. So, do you think it is still

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here? I think it will be. I think it was not a very good day yesterday, a

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lot of rain, windy and wet last night. So I doubt if it has left. I

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have to stay positive as it might just have gone into the reeds.

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It is a mystery why the purple swamphen has ventured so far from

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home. But it could be down to weather patterns.

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There has been a severe drought in parts of Spain and France. So maybe

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it flew north, and kept going all the way to the UK.

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The flats is gorgeous and there are amazing birds here, like spoon

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bills. And black tailed birds from Iceland.

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Sadly, though, no sign of a purple swamphen.

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But eventually, and after weeks of chasing around the country, a

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strange shape appears in the reeds. Hang on. I see a purple Bluebird

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coming out of the reed bed. It is immediately identifiable.

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Particularly with a colour that is a purple, green, bluey sheen all over

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the plumage, it is the size that is the most revealing thing of all.

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This is a big robust bird. It is like a moor hen on steroids.

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The reed at the back is this plant that grows by the rhizomes. I think

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it is eating then. It is grabbing the food with its big red feet.

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That is nice, there is a little green that has just gone right up to

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it, and doesn't really like the swamphen being there. It looks tiny

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in comparison. There is a bit of a territorial dispute. Can't believe

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we have got it. That is really good news. The word is out and before

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long, I am joined by a whole host of expectant twitchers from all over

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the country. So what do they make of this peculiar bird? It is a cracking

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bird, to see one here, it is a delight. We made this attempt to see

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it earlier, at Minsmere in Suffolk and failed by one day. That has to

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be the youngest bird here today. And worth a journey? Yes. It is an

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astonishing fact this is only western known purple swamphen in the

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British Isles. It has chosen a great place to stay. There is plenty of

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food here and safe locations to roost f. If it decides to hang round

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who knows it may be joined by one or two more if. It the fly back to the

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Mediterranean then bon voyage and thank you for stopping by. Wonderful

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turn out for a purple swamphen. Staying on the animal theme. We have

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had an e-mail. -Mail. Anne has missed the point, people don't keep

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cat, cats keep people. Very good. That is all for tonight,

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thank you to Anne, to Rick and to Mel. Mel's new album Version of Me

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is released on 23 October. Anne Robinson's Britain starts tomorrow

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on BBC One. We will be back tomorrow. I should have kept this

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