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Hello, welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker... And Alex Jones.

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Tonight we are joined by an actress who has starred in the greatest

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films of all time. Silence Of The Lambs. The Lord Of The Rings.

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Star Wars! Any excuse for a bit of dressing up. Dawn French! Brilliant.

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Ultimate comedy. You just have to look at that, and you start

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laughing. I like The Hobbit. with her make-up right and that is

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half of the battle. Do you miss dressing up? I still do it, but

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only for my own pleasure. I absolutely loved it. It was like

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being in your dressing up box as a kid, having that as your job.

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and Jennifer have so many great characters. Any favourites?

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Probably when we did the fat men. Those were my favourite. We could

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abuse people on our staff, in an unpleasant manner, and get away

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with it. Visually, I have to say, it reminds me of my daughter. Two

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years old, dressed up for sledging, four coats. A waterproof suit on

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the outside. She was like a double ball with a face. She couldn't go

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sledging at all after that. She was so restricted. Just shove her down

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the hill! I couldn't do my shoes up, I had so many layers on. Send your

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pictures of you wrapped up at the weekend and we will show some at

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the end of the show. The full cost of cleaning the Dale Farm

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travellers' site in Essex has just been officially announced. It is

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more than �7 million. And the saga may still not be over. Attention

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has switched to another site. But it is the residents protesting

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against the gypsies that are facing eviction.

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Meriden is Middle England, geographically speaking. Right now

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they are also slap-bang in the middle of a dispute. The two sides

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of the argument are quite literally split into two camps. The first one

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is Romany gypsies. And there is this one, a camps set up by village

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residents opposing the gipsy site. The council has said that both of

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them have to go. But this one has to go first. Tell me, what is your

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problem with this development? is a designated wildlife site, in

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the green bath, -- green belt, and it is part of a famous walk. We

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have been in touch with 50 villages around the country that have had

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the same experience. It is a three- step process. Step one, by the man

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secretly. Step two, send in the bulldozers, followed by the

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barristers. Step three, dead a council and the Government to get

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rid of you. Noah Burton is landowner of the site and the

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spokesperson for the gypsies. are not defying the council, we are

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here pending an appeal and an addiction appeal. We are fighting

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it legally. -- eviction appeal. Tooth and nail, as hard as we can

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fight it, and legally. But you are not, this is an illegal

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development? We have nowhere else to go. I have spent everything I

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have got on this piece of land, for somewhere to live. They are not

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interested in that Bush or the hedge, they just don't want the

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caravans. They don't want gypsies here. Some people will look at the

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camp and say, well, that is classic Middle England. Some of them will

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even say it is racism. We have had gypsies and travellers in the area

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for hundreds of years. The last thing we want to do is poison

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relations with those people. If you are given an acceptable site

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somewhere else, that everybody has had a democratic voice and a chance

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to agree on, they said they would be happy. They said they have

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always been gypsies here. Have there? Every time the council

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trying, they say, we don't want that site there. They don't care

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where it is. Its gypsies, we don't want it. That is not green belt, it

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is anti-gypsy. Both camps are facing eviction. What happens next?

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In the High Court, the law moves very slowly sometimes. We have

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moved as quickly as we can within our legal powers. As a council, you

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have a responsibility to provide an allocation for the gypsy community.

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Is that there? It is. We have a number of long-established sites.

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We are currently going through a further assessment to see if more

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are needed. This is land grab that we are looking at? It is a

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situation that is being replicated across the country on different

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sites. That seems to be the way in which it has been done, very often

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over a bank holiday weekend. reality is that you're camp will be

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gone long before that development over there. Even though this

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temporary structure might come down, our campaign is not going away. We

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will stay until we see the enforcement of the decisions that

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we have won. They do not care about us. It's not green belt, they just

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Now, it you are back with a brand new series of Roger And Val Just

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For people that have not seen it, it is a married couple and it

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follows then in real time after they have got in from work. When

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lots of people get home, The One Show is on. But we did have a look

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and there was no sign of it. don't have the television on in the

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background in this show. We always blame the writers. If you had

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written it, it would have been used. But it was your idea? Yes. I wanted

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to do with a show about a happily married couple. You have seen it

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too often before, when couples are arguing. I wanted to see one that

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were battling something, but not each other. In the first series, we

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found out that there was a bit... Not a secret, exactly, but

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something very difficult inside that house, the tragic death of

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their child 18 years before. This is a couple that are trying to live

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through it, get on and distract themselves. They love each other

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very much. They kind of play, really, in order to have a happy

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life. They are just trying to be nice human beings and love each

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other. What is on the cards for them this time? This time there is

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a secret. This time it comes from outside the house. It comes inside.

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I can't tell you too much. As it unravels, it is a massive threat to

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the kind of very loving marriage. It is something neither of them

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expected and it could totally shake them. This is what starts to

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unravel at the end? A little clue! When I walk into that room, I will

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not be alone. I will, in fact, be accompanied by three remarkable

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women. By Martina Navratilova... By Hillary Clinton... And by Margaret,

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that used to be on The Apprentice. I know it looks odd. I know that.

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But it's the only way I can think We should as you were going into an

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interview, naming three people that you would like to take with you.

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thought we would have a go ourselves. You are completely mad!

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I have chosen Stephen Fry, extra intelligent. Alan Carr, in case it

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gets awkward so. He has always has a joke. And Kate Middleton, always

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stylish and behaves. You don't want to behave! Well, if it is a job

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interview. I went for Albert Einstein, so I can answer any

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question. Usain Bolt, if it is going badly I can get out of there

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fast. And Tim Vine. He has a line for anything. Well done! Excellent

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box work. Who would you have in real life? Well, I would have the

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actual Queen. I would have the queen of comedy, Jennifer Saunders.

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I have to say that, otherwise I will be killed. And the Queen of

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the world, Russell Grant. Good choice! You can take that off now.

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I have to say, it does suit you. Thanks. We can rock a box. Anyway,

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Cumbria starts on Wednesday night, 10pm on BBC Two. Now it time for a

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bit of history, as we once again examined the customs surrounding

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British life. Today it is the traditional funeral, and how it has

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its roots in Georgian pomp and ceremony.

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The 18th and 19th centuries were the height of decadence and

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extravagant living in Britain. That was matched in death. At no other

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time in history were funerals such a huge event as in Georgian Britain.

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George and entrepreneurial skills were keen to get into this mortal

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market. Dr Mark Jane Eyre is an expert on the cult surrounding

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death in Georgian times. Funerals were all -- always a way of saying

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how important she were. When they buried Admiral Nelson, there was

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this massive procession from the Admiralty to St Paul's. It is so

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long that when the front reached St Paul's, the back had not started

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moving! His funeral was part of this entire funeral culture, in

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which how you were buried said so much about who you had been. There

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must have been people making money out of it. Oh, yes. In fact, the

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18th century is when you see the undertaker really taking off. This

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was a period of growing funeral bling. The population of England

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and Wales in the Georgian period more than doubled, from 6 million

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to over 15 million. Tiny metal plots like this found themselves

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with more than 70,000 bodies in them. Each year, another 40,000

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were being directed their way. Such numbers meant churchyards quickly

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became fall. Julie is from the cemetery research group at York

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University and is a world expert and government adviser on burial

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history. The demand for space was rapidly overcoming any ability of

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the churchyard to accommodate it. Around that time, a local man wrote

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a report and said the churchyards were sodden with human flesh.

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People had ceremonies and there were bones sticking out of the

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ground. Very grim places. answer to the overcrowded

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churchyards was this, the SEN -- cemetery, which started appearing

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in the 1830s. You could buy a perpetual grave there. In the

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churchyard, people were disturbed within weeks. Here, people could

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say you were here forever. Quite luxurious? When it first opened,

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special trains came to look at it because it was so crammed. You

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could see the promenade, not just for the funeral but for people to

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visit. Into the Victorian period, these super cemeteries opened

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across Britain. It wasn't just where you were buried, it was how.

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There was a strict code of conduct. I have come to one of England's

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finest Georgian homes, in Ripon, to meet Gillian Stapleton, who has

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studied the do's and don'ts of Georgian mourning. You have some

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tiny things. What are they? These are mourning approaches from the

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Regency. That particular one is from about 1820. Him at the centre

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is some hair. That would be given to somebody as a gift. The pills

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around the edge signified a widow's tears. What was the normal

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procedure following a death? were expected to be in mourning for

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a close relative for between one and two years. The widow would be

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expected to stay in black for six months. Then it would be back with

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touches of Wight for six months. Then she could go into half

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mourning. Caroline, show us what you are wearing. This would be

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respectable half mourning for about 1800. It is very subtle colours.

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You get dark brown stripes and a sash of black around the waist.

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That definitely signify is you are in mourning. In Georgian Britain,

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if you wanted to die a respectable death there was only one way to go,

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the very best way that money could buy. From princesses to paupers,

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fantastic funerals were high fashion in Georgian Britain. Many

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people would agree that you should A slightly morbid subject. But

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lovely to see you, none the less. But it wasn't just the rich that

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were worried about their terminal resting-place? It was everybody. It

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meant so much to people. In some ways, a big send-off was the last

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thing you could do. It was a show of love, that you could do for

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whoever you had lost. People really believed in that time that you

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needed your whole body intact if you were to be resurrected. None of

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this organ donor stuff that we feel much happier with. People were

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really minded about how you went into the earth because that was how

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you were going to rise up afterwards. Even after we were

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buried, they couldn't necessarily rest in peace, could they? It is

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also the time of the body snatcher. You know, Burke and Hare and all of

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that. The doctors work desperately trying to get hold of corpses for

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doing teaching, to learn to be better at doctors. Traditionally,

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only criminals that had been hung, only they were allowed to be cut up.

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There were not enough of them about. You get a trade in digging up

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corpses and selling them. I can't I can't see a problem with that,

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can you? But the lengths that one went to protect them was

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extraordinary? Amazing. It was like an arms race. You start with people

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digging up bodies, so then they put a great slab on tonne.

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That is fair enough. So the grave diggers go in around

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the side and drag the body out. Next are these things, coffin

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colours, so they go around the neck of a person in their coffin.

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That is grim. It is, isn't it sn.

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Still it did not stop. Then the cages were introduced? Yes,

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mortstone. That sinks into the ground and prevents anyone from

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breaking in, digging in. I'm going in a firework! I have told my

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family already. Thank you very much, Ruth.

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Now, from the end of life to the beginning. On the 25th of July,

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1978, the world's first IVF baby, Louis Joy Brown was born in Greater

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Manchester at Oldham District Hospital.

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Fast forward and although thousands of couples have received IVF, not

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everyone who wants treatment can get it free.

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This doctor under stands the true cost of some trying to become

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parents. Every child is precious. There come as point in many

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people's lives when starting a family is one of the most important

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things to do, but as many as one in seven couples experience

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difficulties when conceiving. One of the most effective ways of

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helping nature along is in vitro fertilisation, IVF.

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Eggs are harvested from a woman and fertilised with sperm in a lab. If

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the process is successful, the embryos are returned to the womb.

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If all goes to plan, nine months later a babe is born, but it is --

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a baby is born, but it is an expensive process. The 2004

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National Institute for Clinical Excellence recommends that coups

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are offered three cycles of IVF, that all depends where you live.

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Some Primary Care Trusts offer two cycles, some one, and some none.

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Although the Department of Health encourages Primary Care Trusts to

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take account of the guidelines, it is up to them how much funding they

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allocate to fertility treatments. Last year over 70% of PCTs in the

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UK offered less than the recommended three cycles. In North

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Staffordshire, where Melanie and David live, their prift has not

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funded any cycles since 2006. -- Primary Care Trust.

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We had been trying for six years for a baby. We had no success. We

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went to the doctor, she said because of the time we had been

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trying that IVF was the next option for us.

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That if we were to go for it, we would have to pay privately.

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After scraping together �5,000, they paid for their first cycle of

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IVF. When it didn't work the first time

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it's horrendous. I could cry now. Sorry.

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Couples pay a high price financially and emotionally. Mr Sim

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kins, runs a private fertility clinic in London.

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Why is it so ebgsz pensive? There are enormous overheads. One has to

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run a building, complicated machinery and medical equipment and

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a very large amount of staff are needed and the drugs that we use,

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they themselves cost at least �1,500.

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Do you think that the NHS should be offering more? Absolutely.

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Infertility is not an illness, but it causes an enormous amount of

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illness. Sadly, many authorities consider it a low priority.

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NHS resources are stretched, some question whether the service should

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be offering IVF at all, especially when patients with cancer are being

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refused drugs to prolong their lives as it is too expensive.

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This man is an NHS fertility consultant who works for Guy's in

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south London. Before he can decide whether to offer IVF he has to

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check their postcode. I help to achieve people to have a

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healthy baby. I would love ideally to focus on what should be done

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medically and being able to offer it successfully, in a caring and

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consideriate way, rather than spending time on discussing the

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finances. Costs for IVF varies on the

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complexity of the treatment required.

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Justine has spent �20,000 trying to have a baby. She is considering

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going abroad to say money on her treatment. The Infertility Network

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UK say that the numbers are growing. Our last psyche until London cost

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about �10,000 with special treatments that I needed added in.

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In Greece, I think that I can have the same, including the drugs for

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about �30,700-ish. When do you think you might decide

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that enough is enough? I think that I might just try one more time. I

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don't know if that is denial. How many times have you said that?

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Never. For Melanie and Christian after two cycles of I've and

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spending �10,000, they were successful. Here is the result,

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two-year-old Jack. To find out we were pregnant was

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the best day. It is like winning the lottery ten fold. I would have

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paid anything to get the little man that we have got now. He is amazing.

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I would not put a price on his head at all.

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A happy ending for Melanie and Christian. Well, Dr Sarah Jarvis is

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with us us, but first, Dawn, this is a subject that is close to your

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heart. You went through IVF 20 years ago? I did.

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Where do you think that the NHS should be drawing the line with the

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amount of treatment that should be allowed? I think that each person

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should have at least 84 goes, frankly. You should be able to keep

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doing it until you can conceive. It is heartbreaking when you can't.

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Why don't all of the trusts have to follow the NICE guidelines?

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would think it would be obvious. That we would have medicines, but

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then NICE says no. The bizarre thing is if they say yes, then it

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is a clinical thing, there is a guideline. I think it is really sad.

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This is national. Then there the postcode lottery.

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Good luck to all of the couples going through IVF at the moment.

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Thank you. Time now for our bug man Dr George

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McGavin to start digging through his wardrobe. He is in search of a

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hungry household invader that enjoys nothing more than dining out

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on our clothes. Now this is something that we don't

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want to see in our clothes, tiny holes. You think it is normal wear

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and tear, but it's been eaten, in fact, by this. The clothes moth.

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Contrary to what you may think it is not the adults that eat your

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clothes it is the larvae. Whereas most caterpillars are

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vegetarian, this family of moths has become the scourge of mankind.

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They've evolved to digest fibre, wool and even dead animals. It

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seems that they are becoming more common. One Show viewer Stuart,

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noticed that his wardrobe had unwelcome visitors.

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A couple of years ago we started to see a lot of moths flying around.

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Then in the back of the wardrobe we zis covered that old cardigan we

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had bought it a few years ago. There! Yes, there may abmoth about

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to come out. That is proib -- probably one that has hatched

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already. That is an obvious sign there is an infestation. When they

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have fed enough, they are about to pupate they normally migrate to

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where they are eating to the edge of the area, so when they emerge as

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adults they can fly off easily. This truly is the lost land of the

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clothes moth! To understand how to tackle this modern scourge, we have

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to go back to its roots. Before they began devouring our

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clothes they lived somewhere quite different.

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In fact, their home would have originally been in a nest of wild

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birds. In particular... Barn owls. Today the barn owl network here are

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removing the chicks from their nests to be ringed.

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That is very, very cute. It has two legs, I usually specialise in

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things with a lot more legs. As a -- adorable as they are, it is

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not the chicks that I have come to see. It is beautiful.

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It is actually their leftovers that I have more interest in.

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This is why I am here, what I have come to find. It is an owl pellet.

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It is not what you think, this rather large lump is regurgitated

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by the owl as it contains all of the bits that they cannot digest,

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like fur, teeth, bones. Things that the cloth moth has no problem to

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tackle into. If you break open the pellets, you find what the owls

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have been eating, but also, the larvae of the clothes moth. There

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is one right there. The larvae have evolved powerful enzymes that make

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the undigestable, digestable. The adult clothes moth will lay its

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eggs on the pellets so that the young can pupate and then the young

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can have something to eat when they enerpblg. -- emerge, but how did it

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get from the owl to our wardrobes? Well it may not look like, but to a

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clothes moth, the owl's nest and the wardrobe are similar. They are

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dark, warm, safe from enemies and there is lots of food. So, we have

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to make our homes not feel like a barn out nest. Good house keeping

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is key. Moths hate disturbance. Lavender seems to keep the adults

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away. But the most important thing is to

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keep the moths from getting in the first place. The best tips come

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from the museum, dedicated to preserving precious fabrics. They

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have discovered that cloths moths cannot survive a deep freeze. So

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before you add that vintage jumper to your collection, try sticking it

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in the freezer for a couple of weeks. By keeping the house as moth

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unfriendly as possible, you may stand a fighting chance. Of course,

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put the jumper in your freezer! Sorry if you were eating your tea.

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We watched it this afternoon, I had trouble getting through a fruit

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salad. Thank you very much for all of the photosow have been sending

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-- photos you have been sending in. This is Ruby from Yorkshire.

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She has cold hand syndrome, woollen gloves in the snow, never a good

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idea. And Dawn? I have twinss Ruby and

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Rose. I have to say, the massively talented woman who write my show

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are twins. They look exactly like that! This is from Emily, who is

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eight. This is her brother, Michael, going down the hill by himself for

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the first time. A big day. This is Karen on the top

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of a lovely hill in the Lake District. That is on Friday,

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looking nice and cold there. Lovely stuff. Before we go, you

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have another novel out? I have yes. Finishing it off.

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In pencil. I found that amazing? do. I have never written on a

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computer ever. Never used a computer.

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Come back and see us in October. I will do.

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Thank you very much for coming on the show, Roger and Val starts on

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