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Hello, friends, and welcome to your Friday One Show, with Alex and

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Chris. Tonight, a brand new double- act on our sofa, hoping that

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opposites attract. One of them is a grisly grumpy guts. The other is a

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fizzy fancy pants. It is Alan Davies and John Barrowman. Good

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evening, gentleman. We said that opposites attract, but if we look

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at this picture of a ten-year-old, I am not sure you can tell if this

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is Alan Lord John. What do you think? -- alone, or John. What do

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the audience thinks? Alan, what do you think? That is me. It is

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actually John. What a haircut! Thank you for not mentioning it,

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but I am wearing my pyjamas today. There is a reason for this. It did

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not deserve a round of applause, but thanks. It is down to little

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Oliver from Huddersfield. Oliver, why am I wearing pyjamas? Because I

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was fund-raising, so you must have to do it because I did it, so you

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must do it. That is right. He came on the radio show and told us what

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he had done and he said, you have to do it as well, Christopher.

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to check, he has come in. What? I thought you said he was coming. He

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is already here. So now we know why Chris is dressed like that, but if

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you are in your pyjamas, what is your excuse? Send a picture of you

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in your pyjamas and the reasons why to the usual address. Would you

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like to see Alex in her pyjamas before the end of the show? Yes.

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would I, but I don't think it is going to happen. What about John?

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Alan does not wear pyjamas, we have been told. Would you like to see

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him like that? It is a new double act, everybody. They are the real

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bananas in pyjamas! All night tonight we are joined by one of the

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world's greatest illusionists. Hans Klok is here with us. You can tell

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he means business. His assistants in the past have included Pamela

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Anderson, but who needs a star of Baywatch when you have a double act

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like Alan and John. Will you help him later? Happy to. As long as we

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do not get cut in half or anything! We are not saying anything. You

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have probably noticed it is pretty cold everywhere at the moment and

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there is snow forecast for the weekend. But as of yet, no sign of

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Very good. The delusions later, huge illusions. We sent Alison

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Craig to a breathtaking part of the country where snow is the star

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attraction. Four of the highest mountains in

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the country, 52 summits over 3000 ft and snow almost as far as the

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eye can see. What an amazing view. The Alps, the Pyrenees, the

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Dolomites? No, it is my home stamping ground, the Cairngorm

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mountains in Scotland. It is tremendous on a good day. It is

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challenging at my level. Cold but amazing. You do not want to go back

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down. You make the most of what you have got. Whilst some of the

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earliest Scottish skiing pioneers, like Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, headed

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abroad for their first foray on to the pistes, the Scottish slopes

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have been attracting a hardier band of outdoor enthusiasts since the

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1930s. But before railways, ski- lifts, etc, you had to climb up

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before you could come down. It has been 50 years since I started to

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ski here. That was walking from the bottom, of course, just a few of us.

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At the end of the day, we had to carry all have our gear up to this

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level and find a spot to ski on. These days, it is busier. Last

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season saw more than 120,000 skiers on these slopes. Some more graceful

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than others. The turning point for this mountain came 50 years ago.

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Prince Philip open Scotland's first mechanised ski-lift right here,

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called the White Lady. For the last 10 years, Bob, his daughter and

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grandchildren have had the luxury of hopping on board Britain's hires

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funicular railway that replaced the chairlift in 2001. -- highest.

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comfortable we are going to the top. It used to be sitting on an old

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fashioned chair, quite cold and frozen solid at the top probably.

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Now we will be ready to ski. You go up in seven minutes instead of half

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an hour. The trains can operate in winds of up to 80 mph, under the

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watchful eye of the Controller. The first female controller. That's me.

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Tell me the number of people you are getting up the hill every day.

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It four or five trains an hour, 120 tops. Talk us through this red

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button. The most important thing on the mountain. A place this item

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over the baton to remind me to do things. I do not know what it

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reminds me to do but I have to do something. I gather this actually

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as a bend in it, which is very rare. It is the only one in the world. It

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has a bend because it has to follow the Contador of the hill. I am

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desperate to press something. It has never been faster or easier

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to get to the top of this mountain range. But now comes the fun part,

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get into the bottom. -- getting to the bottom.

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Very nice. John, you lived in Scotland until you were eight. Did

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you go careering down the Cairngorms? No, but I have driven

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that way and I have seen the lifts. It would be nice to try it. Who

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knows, this weekend they might be able to do it. This is a picture of

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John on the way to the studio tonight. Speaking of Scotland, you

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are heading to Edinburgh for a different reason. Yes, I am doing

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stand-up, going to the Edinburgh Festival and then touring the

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country. I love the Edinburgh Festival. It is the first time in a

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while. I have not gone on tour for 13 years, since 99. I have not

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taught this century. But now you are 45. You have a lovely wife and

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a lovely family. You are content. Is that good for comedy? Being 45

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is good because there is more to talk about. However, you cannot

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remember any of your act. I have it taped up in the wings. I cannot

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remember it. I keep going over, pretending that I need a drink. And

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then I am looking at it and I think, I have to go back and do something.

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Have you been practising, doing dummy runs? I did a tour in

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Australia with the show, called Life is pain, a semi- ironic title.

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I loved it. Australia is a fantastic place to visit. The show

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went well, so I thought I would do it at home. I think 20 years ago, I

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saw you at a pub in Tufnell Park doing 20 minutes. It was free to

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get in and you were trying out new staff. Do you still get nervous? Do

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you feel different to when you started off? When I went to

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Australia on the first night at his big theatre in Melbourne I was

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really nervous, but then people started laughing and it felt

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exciting again. You need to feel that you want to get hold of the

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microphone. I had lost the love of it a bit. When I started in comedy

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clubs with other comedians, it was a great way to make a living in

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your twenties when you do not think of anything ahead. For then I

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started touring and there was less enamoured of it, with the motorways

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and the hotels, but now I love it. And now you fancy a motorway and a

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hotel. Yes, because I have two children and they are exhausting.

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You say that, but you have been doing a live tour with QEII, so you

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have been a wave. We went there to do it live, in theatres in

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Melbourne, Perth and Brisbane. Stephen and I went and we had

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Australian comedians on the panel. It is very popular there, shown on

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ABC. They loved Stephen and they tolerate me. The Australians were

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very good about pitching in. I stuck around for a few weeks and

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did stand up after that. It was good. When you do that Show Live,

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do you play music, guitars, what happens? Steve and has an

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interesting opening monologue. I eat chocolate and then I come out

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and steal the show. -- Stephen. John, have you ever tried stand-up

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comedy, naked comedy? Faith in my tour that I do, my entertainment

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show, I actually do stories of comedy in between. But it is not

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stand up. I am totally impressed with stand-up comedians at how you

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rattle it off. Everything has to be funny. For me, between songs it is

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funny and that is done. But everything has to be funny. Well, I

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do funny songs as well. We will be talking about acting later. Did you

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audition for the Hobbit? Yes, very dwarf. I was too tall. What was the

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height restriction? You have to be a dwarf. It was a very quick

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audition because I hit my head on the door on the way in. You have a

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head start over John if you want to be the assistant to Hans, because

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you were a magician's assistant in Jonathan's Creek. We come in, to

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find the table. And... On the night, we can but hope you will be smiling.

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Are you kidding? After that, we are not entirely sure you will be

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replacing Hans Assistance, the Divas of Magic. There they are.

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That is not going to work. He might let you switch on his wind machine.

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If he lets you do that, he has let you into his life. Before we see

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him in action, Angellica Bell looks at a magic trick that back in the

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day was cutting edge. This film is In a building just over there on a

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winter's day, 91 years ago, people were horrified. They watched a man

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cut a woman in half. Buckets of blood were emptied into the gutter.

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Onlookers passed out. What a terrible claim to fame for Finsbury

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Park in north London. But it was all fake. One of the goriest stumps

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ever by one of Britain's favourite stunt magicians. It is said he was

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the first person in the world to dream up this extraordinary idea of

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soaring a woman in half. His glamour as a system, Betty, emerged

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serene and unscathed. The audience could not believe what they were

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seeing. He wanted to scare the audience, so when the stage hands

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came out before the start of each show with buckets of pretend blood,

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they told people, don't worry, it is just a rehearsal. Ambulances had

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been waiting outside, and he even hired stooges to sit in the stalls

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and faint. Finsbury Park Empire has long since been demolished, but all

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is not lost. This is the oldest surviving music-hall in the world.

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I have come here to meet Scott Penrose from the Inner Magic Circle.

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We will tire her by the wrists and ankles. He created many tricks,

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walking through a brick wall, and a trip where a lady travels from one

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barrel to another through a metal plate. He created so many tricks,

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and this was the one. He did something scandalous. Magicians

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always used men as assistance, but he was using a woman. In the year

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of the suffragettes, that was very mischievous. In fact, he went

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further. He cheekily invited Christabel Pankhurst to be his

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victim, with an offer of �20 per week. She saw this as silly

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Selbitt made the trip last ages. 40 minutes. -- the trick. He took his

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time, milking the fact that he was going through the body and the

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spine, and of course the lady comes out at the end completely unscathed.

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But how did he do it? I can't tell you, no, it is against the rules of

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the Magic Circle's. I would get thrown out. One man with a special

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interest in Percy sell it is his second cousin. He came from a long

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line of dairy meant and he was an apprentice to a silversmiths. They

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had rented out their basement to a magician and the person used to go

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down during their lunch times and watched the conjuror and learn

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tricks from him. When Percy decided to become a magician, he thought

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his real name did not sound good enough so he reversed the letters

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of his surname. He was very important in a timeline of magic.

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We are still performing the trick 90 years later. He created this

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trick and hit jackpot. He was so celebrated. Even George V came to

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watch him saw a lady in half, but there was a setback. He took that

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Act to America, where he discovered to his horror that another magician

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had worked out his own version. Percy suited, lost, and had to come

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home, but for audiences, the illusion still remains a mystery.

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You can't quite see it. I can see exactly how the audience would have

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found that astonishing and it is an incredible thing, that this is my

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cousin. I am very happy about this. He died at the age of 57. Twice

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married with four children and a single legacy: A wooden box that

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continues to mystify audiences around the world. A claim to fame

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for Finsbury Park that really is a piece of magic.

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Great film but more importantly, that the tie-up would be great for

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you. I am looking for somewhere to live. She is always flat hunting!

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Hans has got something pretty special for us and remember this is

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 72 seconds

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an illusion, not anything scary. # You only see what your eyes want

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 72 seconds

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Chris: Is there more? Where did He is the best! He is the best! Big

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No! No! No! That was amazing! That was amazing! That was amazing!

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No way! He gets the girl again! APPLAUSE. Do you want more Hans

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later? Yes! Yes! More later. The Harry Potter books have become the

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biggest selling series in history. They encouraged a generation to

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read and even inspired a few to have a go at writing. And that is

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It is a bitterly cold afternoon. I let my dog off the lead but now I

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cannot see the direction he went in. I look ahead and step closer and

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see a motionless two headed creature. Am I shaking with fear or

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the cold? Out of 30,000 children who entered the 500 words short-

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story competition last year, "winter woodland monster" made it

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into the top five. Alex, where did you get the inspiration? Well,

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normally I quite like writing about animals and the adventures of the

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animals, and I quite like having a twist in a story. The boy sees the

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monster and then what happens? comes closer and closer and

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realises that it is actually just an old man in a chair with a cat

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asleep around his shoulders. What was it like having your story read

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out on stage at the Hay-on-Wye literary festival? Incredible!

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Especially because it was read by the man from Horrible Histories, my

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favourite programme! Has he always written stories? Yes, since he was

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small, but the creative writing has been in the last three years.

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you planning to write a story this year? Yes. This time from the

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animal perspective rather than a human perspective. This year's

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judges are a collection of our finest children's authors,

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including a lady who has written for every age group, Dame

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Jacqueline Wilson. Children are brilliant at bringing emotion into

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their strawberries. I remember Alexander's story, I thought it was

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wonderful. -- their stories. What tips would you give to children

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thinking of entering the competition? It is fun so relax and

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enjoy yourself. Write the sort of story you would like to read. Try

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very hard not to copy anyone at all. We are interested in your original

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idea. Charlie Higson agrees. best ideas come to you when you are

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not trying, when you are not expecting it. You might be talking

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to someone and they face something or you see something on the TV or

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you are playing with your friends and something will come to you.

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Your friend is your magic wand and you can just make up anything.

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Today I am off to my three sisters busy creating their own imaginary

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worlds in 500 words or last. Is it a bomb? Did you ever wonder why

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bats have such big ears? Hallowed. Can you explain to me what you like

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the most about writing stories? like letting my imagination go wild.

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You can write about things that would never happen in real life,

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like magical things. Is there a way that I could perhaps appear in your

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story? Could I be a character? could be a prince. Sophie, have you

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got a character I could be? could be the naughty that and you

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could keep listening in to other people's conversations. Rosie?

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really fat and spotty and smelly, ugly troll. I think handsome prince

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is more of my street. Please yourself.

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Thanks. The competition was launched on my breakfast show on

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Radio 2 this week and the prize is my height in books. If you come

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second, it is Alex is's height in books, and if you come third, it is

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your height in books! -- Alex's height. For more details, go to the

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Click on 500 words of stock John's sister Carole is here. Apparently

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you have written a book together. We have, it is called Hollow Earth.

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It was out yesterday and today it was our first big thing for kids at

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Thomas Becket's school and we talked about the book and the

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history of it and the characters to get them interested in reading.

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they by any? Yes, they bought 300! It is very like lords of the Rings.

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-- Lord Of the Rings. That is wonderful to say that. I was not a

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big fan of JRR Tolkien. I preferred the Lion, the Witch And the

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wardrobe. I love your voice? De you like it in American or Scottish?

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she does Scottish, I will have to go Scottish! That is magic! You are

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a professor of English. Yes! you do the work and he phoned you

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up and said, have you finished yet? Carole does all the physical

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writing. I am not gifted in that way. But when we are doing

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characters am talking about it, wherever it happens, we get

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everything together and when she rides a chapter she will send it to

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me and say, is this what we had in mind? -- when she writes. I will

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not claim I can write. When we came up with the idea, we were driving

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from London to Cardiff and we had a lot of Percy pigs to eat. We

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started to come up with ideas and the imagination was coming... Dot

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dot! A amazing. He can't do that, of course. He could not go into

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weird characters, of course. have never seen that from him at

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all! Have you always got on well? He is a nightmare. Dish the dirt!

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locked him in the closet one time. No! At least I didn't have hair

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like that! Or Pants like that! was the 70s! That was in the

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extension that my dad built. would dress up like that. Can you

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see the little shot glass? That was my microphone. That is very early

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fake tan! Is it? When did you first realise you were into showbiz? Was

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it when you wore this bikini? is us getting ready to move to

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America. There he is! All I will say is that is my dad's fault! My

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dad dressed me like that because we were on a cruise and he said, go

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into this competition, and I dressed up in my sister's bikini.

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Put on the bikini, there is a cash prize! I won first place. All of

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the women in bikinis were livid! course I won. It is usually sisters

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who share clothes, not brother and sister. It was a sign of things to

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come. Speaking of authors, Alan, your wife is a successful

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children's author. Waterstones children's book of the year. She

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has a new one out in the summer. John, you are busy acting, because

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you are on TV tonight. Yes, I am in Hustle his evening playing a

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I had a gift, and it was my duty to share that gift and bring wellbeing,

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healing and happiness to others. That is when you joined the CIA?

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Enough of you. The guest is a busy man, so let's cut to the chase.

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Hustle, tonight on BBC One at 9pm. And their book is out now. Time for

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Alex to get to no one about guests better. Let's get in the mood. I

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will light the candle. Come and sit Stop right there. Surrey, it is not

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Before Christmas, we asked you at home to send us your spag bog all

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recipes, and you did not disappoint. All of York entries were gratefully

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received and we have whittled it down to three finalists who are

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battling it out for the title of Super spag Balfe. You cannot be to

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bowl of spaghetti bolognese, lots of pasta in a rich, meaty sauce.

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Done badly, it is the thing of nightmares, but done well it is

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simply gorgeous. Bolognese is actually the British take on an

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Italian dish, and on average we eat it once a week. We have sifted

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through your applications looking for taste and originality and we

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are down to three finalists. Meet Richard from Doncaster, Lynn from

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Sussex and Stephen from Cheltenham. Now they have to convince me and my

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fellow Judge Angela Gray. What are we looking for in a bolognese

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sauce? Something full-bodied, rich and full-on meaty and gorgeous.

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There is no agreed recipe for this, is there? No. It is one of those

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dishes that are born out of Italian ingredients and the Brits have put

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them together with our own interpretation. Let's get down to

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it. Richard has been making his bolognese since his student days.

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It takes 40 minutes to cook but it is full of surprises. Crushed

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chillies. In a spaghetti bolognese. And it does not stop there. That is

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mango chutney. OK! A bit of red tomato pesto. This is a complete

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mongrel, isn't it? You could put it that way. This spag ball does not

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have any mince. I am using cue-bid beef. Where did you get that?

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its elite last year. What other interesting ingredients do you

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have? The rind of Parmesan. Parmesan is a source of sodium

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glutamate, all of that savoury flavour. So I can see the point of

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throwing matin. With Stephen, it is mince all the way, and sausages.

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Pork, beef and pork sausage. No herbs and garlic whatsoever. This

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recipe belongs to my wife's grandmother. She is Italian.

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have the recipe from a real old Italian grandmother. I do, yes.

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are taking this on without using spaghetti. I am using rigatoni, the

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Tube pastor. That is because you think a lot of the sauce gets stuck

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down the middle. Yes. No spaghetti, but we did ask for originality.

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Time is up on the challenge, and on to the best bit, the tasting. I

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picked a bad week to give up eating pastor. Shall we start over here

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with Richard's. That meet needs to be cooked quite a bit longer. If

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you are using mins, it needs to be. But what is really hitting me is

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that he may have said that Chile was only there for a bit of flavour,

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but that is close to a chilli con Carny. There is mango chutney in

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there. What do you think it has brought to the party? It is overly

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sweet for me. If you serve that to some Italian mothers? Oh, dear.

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quite like the texture of this one. It is a nice dish of pasta. It has

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full flavour, and the meat is cooked beautifully. It is a good

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all-round flavour. There is something compelling about the

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lumps of beef. You are liking them. This is the rigatoni with the three

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meet bolognese source. You are unlikely to use spaghetti with this

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sort of sauce. For me, it has a nice complexity to it. Despite not

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having any wine in it. It is a very simple construction, this. OK,

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Angela, time to make a decision. Do you think you are up to it? I think

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so. We sit you're a really difficult challenge. They are so

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many recipes, twists and turns, that wars have been fought over

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less. Getting you to complete his a gladiatorial battle, but there has

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to be a winner. And the winner of Congratulations. And he did not

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even use spaghetti. But we agreed that the mix of pork, beef and

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sausage was the superior bolognese. A big round of applause for Stephen.

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Well done. We would like to reward you with a ginormous pepper mill.

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Thrilled to bits, look at him! Stephen, no garlic, no herbs, no

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red wine. Where does the taste come from? The cooking process.

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let's get Claudia Bar back. He is How good does this taste, without

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any of the things normally found in spaghetti bolognese? It was

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fantastic. We would not have given its first prize if it had not been

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deep and rich. He was cooking it for hours which gave it the flavour.

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I was surprised there was no garlic, no herbs, no red wine, but there is

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a lot going on. Secret recipe, from Britain or elsewhere? Really, it is

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from Italy. Who is the influence? My wife's grandmother. Trying to

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get recipes from grandmothers is so difficult. I was nagging her for

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many years. By the way, Alan, we have some garlic bread because we

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know you are vegetarian. One of the interesting things about this was,

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you will have noticed, not spaghetti but rigatoni, which is

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the way that it should be in Italy. They would never serve bolognese

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with spaghetti because you want pastor that the sauce will cling to.

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It became part of the history here, we think, because British

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servicemen coming back from Italy wanted to drive a dish and the only

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pasta we had here was spaghetti. -- they wanted to drive a dish. We

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have your Italian wife, Jessica, here in the audience. We got a

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message from your grandmother in law, which hilariously Alan is

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going to read in Italian while John translates.

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TRANSLATION: I am very proud of you both. For the commitment that you

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put into a projects, and you're beautiful son, Jamie. Well done. I

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am extremely flattered to hear that I was welcomed to be on the One

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Show on Friday. And you are all invited to have dinner at my aim. -

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- at my house. To all Italians, I am very sorry. You had a go at

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cooking vegetarian spaghetti bolognese for us and Jews sent a

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photo. I did. It was delicious. Professional judge, Angela Gray,

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she tasted it and gave you a bit of a judgment. Are you ready? I am

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sorry, I am eating garlic bread. She said she was not sure about

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that chunks of carrot and the bolognese and was worried the

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amount of liquid would mean that you would need to wear a beard to

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eat it, but you got eight out of nine. If you cook it for so long,

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how does the meat not get kind of funky tasting? Did you have a funky

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tasting meat Ball? No, it was delicious but I thought it would be

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overcooked. We have never had a guest finish anything. Listen, if

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it is free, I am not passing it up. Was there something in the food

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department that your granny made? What did your grandmother make?

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Deep-fried Mars bars. Spam. Spam fritters. Those are still warm.

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Nothing beats that! He is a vegetarian! Does any one on the

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crew want a deep-fried Spam fritter. You can find Stephen's recipe on

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our website. I think in a few weeks we should have another competition,

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and I think it should be shepherd's pie. The next item is right up your

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street, because we know you are a huge fan of the Stranglers. In my

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teenage years, very much so. I have all the records. I saw them in 1981

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and again in 2006. Can you play editor of the Stranglers? -- a bit

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of. And now, Carrie Grant has the story behind another of the

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Stranglers hits. The year was 1977, and what a

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turbulent year it was. Britain bounced between street parties for

:42:37.:42:43.

the Queen's silver jubilee and bitter strikes. Music fans would

:42:43.:42:46.

mourn Elvis and would groove to old-style disco while being knocked

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out by a completely new sound topping the charts. It was the age

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of punk, and write out front were the Stranglers. Their first two

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albums went top 10 and today they have sold over 20 million records

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worldwide. But in 1977, their anthem, No More heroes, summed up

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what punk was about, the rejection of the past, from politics and

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people to fashion and pop. title of the song is a bit of a

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slogan. I think there was a certain feeling that all of the new bands

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were a kind of anti-heroes, and that if you're going to do anything

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you were going to do it yourself, Be Your Own Hero, don't look up to

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anyone else. It was a chance for people who were not hugely

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proficient at music just to make a bit of noise. What was the

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quintessential punk sound? As far as I'm concerned, the

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quintessential punk sound did not exist. Some had keyboards, some had

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a metal field to their guitar- playing. It was kind of anarchic.

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People started using terms like New Wave, as well, punk, New Wave,

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whatever. It just described something which happened

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spontaneously all through the nation. It was just provocative.

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Were you ever banned? Yes, all the time. We were banned from countries,

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we were banned from London by what was then the Greater London Council,

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for wearing a provocative T-shirt. What was it that you stood for that

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was so offensive to people? tell me. I don't know. I suspect we

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stood for freedom and something which was questioning the status

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quo at the time. It was not safe # Whatever happened to the heroes?

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It was Co written by John Jack Burnell and Hugh Cornwell. Hugh

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Cornwell wrote most of the lyrics and he sang it. Because it was

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quite competitive, the riff at the beginning is me showing off, that

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In every way, The Stranglers refused to sit the stereotypical

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# Whatever happened to dear old Lenny?

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# The great Elmyra. # And Sancho Panza? What did those

:45:48.:45:57.

people you were writing about mean to you? Sancho Pantsil is the real

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hero in Don Quijote, but he is his sidekick, and the other one is an

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art hero, like an anti-hero, and Trotsky as well. These were people

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who would not be obvious he rose and we considered ourselves more to

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be like that, we questioned everything -- would not be obvious

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he wrotes. Intellectually that is the important part of being in a

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democracy, isn't it? What do you think about when you hear the song

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now? I enjoy playing it because I like the reaction to it. The great

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thing about music is it is a medium to express yourself. It should not

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be a bland and soporific wallpaper. There is so much to write about in

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the world anyway. The Stranglers. Huge fan of The

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Stranglers. You wrote a book about your heroes? Yes, and The

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Stranglers with definitely a part of that time. You love one thing

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one year and then another band and another band at that age, but The

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Stranglers will always there, my number three favourite banned for

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life. I had a big Christina Aguilera phrase! Really?! We were

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looking through the archives and we found a clip of you and it is safe

:47:26.:47:36.
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to say it is a million miles away # If you like it, then you should

:47:37.:47:47.
:47:47.:47:54.

Explain! That was between takes on my show and I was mucking about.

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Are you sure? I am positive! Aggregated that by me just being

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silly one afternoon -- I created that. Honest! The trousers are part

:48:05.:48:13.

of the suit. Do you wear it? No! you take it out for a walk? It is

:48:13.:48:23.
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in my closet! I think it is plastic leather. No, it is silver satin. I

:48:24.:48:29.

don't know what you call it! made it up! Speaking of trousers

:48:29.:48:38.

and pyjamas, you have sent us lots I have got Claire and Maria from

:48:38.:48:48.
:48:48.:48:48.

Belfast. I have Alison and her sister from Devon. Every Friday is

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a fun Friday at their house. Clare week aged three from Ripley,

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Derbyshire. Her mum said it is very cold and that the snow is coming.

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This is visible and Emily from This is Emily from Featherstone.

:49:15.:49:23.

She is watching us. Nice! This 10- year-old is getting ready to go to

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a pyjama party in Enfield. That is William and Ethan from Chester.

:49:29.:49:35.

These are inspired by Oliver who said the challenge on the radio,

:49:35.:49:39.

from Huddersfield. The ladies went Mad For Your hair on Jonathan Creek

:49:39.:49:44.

and then you cut them off and the producers went even more mad!

:49:44.:49:50.

I had to have extensions. Those are not extensions. OK, we were told

:49:50.:49:55.

they were... Talking of dodgy hairpieces, we found another

:49:55.:50:02.

picture of John. Are they extensions? I am wearing a week! I

:50:02.:50:08.

am standing next to Robert de Niro. Maybe he liked it! I was doing the

:50:08.:50:17.

musical Hair. He came backstage. He was very good friends with the

:50:17.:50:21.

writers of the show and he came back and wanted to meet everybody.

:50:21.:50:25.

I think he was more interested in my girls and he was in anything

:50:25.:50:34.

else. You did your best. I am not interested in him! That would have

:50:34.:50:37.

sent our street barber into a spin but he has been dealing with

:50:37.:50:47.
:50:47.:50:50.

flyaway hair anyhow at an airbase Today I have come to RAF Marham,

:50:50.:50:54.

one of the busiest and largest RAF bases in the country and it is home

:50:54.:51:04.
:51:04.:51:06.

to three squadrons. Tornado. How ace was that! It must play havoc

:51:06.:51:12.

with their hairstyles? Pilots on his serve all over the world. Keith

:51:12.:51:22.
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is a flight lieutenant in 31 This is Keef. Woody to everyone

:51:25.:51:32.

else. You have just come back from Afghanistan? A week ago. Have you

:51:32.:51:37.

ever been sick into your mouthpiece? Thankfully, no. But I

:51:37.:51:44.

can drop some names. How fast does it go? 420 mph, which is seven

:51:44.:51:52.

miles a minute. I can push it up to 600 mph. To take a look! Good stuff.

:51:52.:52:02.
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This is the shop. Not a tornado in sight. A teddy bear! With Woody

:52:02.:52:07.

smartened up, I might try and find someone with a bit more head to

:52:07.:52:17.
:52:17.:52:21.

This is the senior aircraft person at the RAF. Aircraft woman! What do

:52:21.:52:26.

you do? I am a member of the tactical Wing. I analyse the

:52:26.:52:32.

imagery when it comes back from the aircraft. I do not want a bop!

:52:32.:52:39.

is my speciality, everybody knows that. It is all I can do. These go

:52:39.:52:43.

past all the time? Yeah, especially when you are trying to watch

:52:43.:52:50.

EastEnders. Have you been up in a fighter jet? Can I go up? If you do

:52:50.:52:57.

a good job. It feels like a proper job you do. It is! Unlike the one I

:52:57.:53:02.

am doing. In the grand scheme of things, my job is all fluff. Do you

:53:02.:53:11.

know the pilot? Like Tom Cruise in Top Gun? Unfortunately not! Take a

:53:11.:53:21.
:53:21.:53:28.

Hair Force! I wonder if I am qualified. What do you do? I am

:53:28.:53:37.

eight traffic controller. -- a traffic controller. Matt and I did

:53:37.:53:40.

you nothing to get that and we went on to win the British Championships

:53:40.:53:47.

in the 90s. -- and did gymnastics together. I have never Moore felt

:53:47.:53:55.

like the look Skywalker! I meet a cigar! Carey has been with the aria

:53:55.:54:02.

for eight years. When did you last get a haircut? Two months ago.

:54:02.:54:08.

Presumably you get to deal with weapons? Yes, small rifles, pistols,

:54:08.:54:17.

machine guns. Sniper rifle, 0.5 calibre rifle. You enjoy your job?

:54:17.:54:24.

Definitely. What were you doing previously? Pensions! My big

:54:24.:54:31.

problem is the hair restriction! you go back in history... Would you

:54:31.:54:41.
:54:41.:54:45.

not rather do something more This place is great but it is a bit

:54:46.:54:52.

too far away from home. By my calculations, at 600 mph, one of

:54:52.:54:56.

these will get me back home in 10 minutes.

:54:56.:55:06.
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Do you get flyaway hair? I do now, thank God! We have lots of e-mails

:55:06.:55:11.

asking about torch would. Russell T Davies has some personal issues and

:55:11.:55:17.

we are taking a break so I do not have any news. But if they want it

:55:17.:55:21.

back and want me back, I love it and I would do it at a drop of a

:55:21.:55:27.

hat. I am captain Jack! Hans is about to perform some more magic.

:55:28.:55:32.

He was brilliant earlier on. Apparently this one is even better.

:55:32.:55:39.

A lot of magic on Jonathan Creek. We had an adviser. We tried to make

:55:39.:55:45.

all of the tricks work. And then we found that some of them didn't work.

:55:45.:55:53.

So we cheated. But because you are not a member of the Magic Circle,

:55:53.:55:58.

were there the rules about how far you could go? The only trick I

:55:58.:56:03.

learnt was the very first one, to go like that! We like that one!

:56:03.:56:08.

Shall we have some more? Let's go to Hans for more magic. Remember,

:56:08.:56:14.

this is an illusion, so don't try this at home. It is expensive so

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:56:24.:56:24.

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