06/06/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

Tonight, we welcome back a worthy adversary, a man who has prompted

the nation's best-known detective as well as masterminding the downfall

of 007. But we have not seen him for a while. Did you miss him? Ladies

and gentlemen, sorry, I'm interrupting? Every fairy tale needs

a villain. I did tell you. Did you miss me? Did you not get the

message? I gave you my number. I thought you might call. Of course we

did. Please welcome Andrew Scott! We have picked up your villainous

pedigree. You are doing your best these days to put that bad boy image

behind you. I am, if I am honest. It's a very colourful past I have,

so I am trying to be more virtuous. You're a nice bloke. It's easier

that way. And it's a real relief, because you are playing Hamlet and

for once, we can actually talk about the project. Every time you come on,

you can't tell us any more. Sangakkara exactly, no spoilers. It

has been around for 400 years, so everybody knows what happens to

Hamlet. But your show is going so well that you are moving it.

Sangakkara yes, we did it at the made at the beginning of the year

and we are bringing to the End. Villa more on Hamlet bit later.

After Saturday's terror attack in London, the Prime Minister said

enough is enough, a comment later echoed by the Muslim Council of

Britain. It's a bold phrase, but what does it mean? Or what should it

mean? We ask people to tell us how they would interpret that message.

Engagement with the right communities around the world is

what we need. We don't need more violence to end violence. People who

call themselves extremists who do these things, that is not religion.

From the time of Genesis to this time, it is always religion causing

most of the wars and fighting. I have had enough of the lack of

police on the streets. It doesn't make us feel safe. Every time

something happens, you then get reports through the press and the

media saying that the police have had people under surveillance, and

nothing was done about it to prevent it. The Christian heritage of this

country is being forgotten. We have to decide what Great Britain was

built on, and stand up for it. I think there are a lot of angry

people around right now. I think if we communicate on a more personal

level... The problem is that the young people have not enough

communication with each other. The Islamic fund a fundamentalists

should be educated into understanding what else goes on in

the world. They should be brought out and educated. I have just had

enough, basically, people blaming the Muslim people that are very

peaceful, that work in this country, that they are terrorists. Hatred

only leads to a path of destruction and violence. We need people to come

together and overcome the hate and bring peace together. Well, the

BBC's home affairs correspondent Dominic is with us here now. What do

you think Theresa May meant by the phrase enough is enough? It is one

of those difficult phases to decode. It is like saying Brexit means

Brexit. We have to wait and see what the Prime Minister means. We did

pick up a couple of things from the statement at Downing Street. She

talks about sentencing. She talks about sending people to jail for

longer. That is difficult, because I was speaking to a senior prosecutor

this morning he was saying to be frank, we have the powers. If

someone commits murder, we can send them to jail for life. If one of the

attackers had survived on Saturday evening, that would have been his

state. But she also hinted that this issue about national identity and

countering extremism in ideology and society. That will be interesting,

because she has talked about this before, as did David Cameron when he

was Prime Minister. Maybe there will be some counter extremism measures

if she wins the general election. One of the boards we saw being held

up in the film was about deportation. How realistic is that?

Well, you can deport someone if they commit a serious crime and they are

a foreign national. That law exists. It is difficult to do if you are

deporting them to a regime which is going to torture them. You can't

deport British nationals. You can strip them of their nationality if

they have another nationality, but it is difficult. On the theme of

enough is enough, what worries me is the constant news footage. You worry

that they are doing these attacks to get on the newswire, and you don't

worry that the media are doing the job of spreading the terror for

them. This is a big issue. We have been talking about this for years. I

have been covering terrorism for ten years and I remember these

conversations after 7/7 happened in London. I got home last night after

a very hard day for my colleagues, trying to work out how we were

reporting this, and I turned off the television. I had had enough

personally. I am professionally paid to do this kind of thing. There are

certain things you have to broadcast. We have to put out that

the accurate information about what has happened. I think people learn

from that. There were incredible tales of bravery and we saw that in

the pictures from around London Bridge and Borough Market and the

people want to see that. There are certain things people will never

see. There are pictures which come into news organisations which we

will never broadcast, because they are too harrowing. But it is a

difficult balancing act. Thanks, Dominic. Coming up, we will meet the

daughter of one of the world's most famous musicians. But can you guess

who her rhinestone wearing father might be? All will be revealed

shortly. Now, let's talk Hamlet. We have had Olivier. We have had

Kenneth Branagh. We had Mark Rylance. We had Benedict

Cumberbatch. So how would you like people to describe this Andrew Scott

Hamlet? Unbelievably brilliant. I suppose what marks this one is

unique is that we wanted it to be quite conversational. Sometimes, the

way Shakespeare is taught in schools is that we learn it like this. He

does say in the play, just speak it. He says that in his advice to the

players. He says speak it on the tongue, the way we are having a

conversation. So it is accessible in that sense and it is a modern

version of Hamlet. Is it still in Shakespearean language? Absolutely,

but all writers have a certain rhythm you have to adhere to,

particularly Shakespeare. We had a weak at the Almeida theatre where we

first did it for people under 25, free. We had a week where we invited

people who were under 25 and they got in for free for the whole week.

What is extraordinary is that it is really accessible. I am not one of

those people who says you have to force young people to come to the

theatre. If it is good, they will come. If they find it boring, they

won't. It is three and a half hours. That is massive for you. Well, we

live in the box that generation now, where people watch five hours of

television because they are gripped. So we have two intervals, so it is

only three hours of acting. People are totally gripped by it, which has

been amazing. You have said in the past that any acting without humour

in it, you would find mind numbingly boring. So how do you find the

humour in Hamlet? Well, if there is no lightness, there is no tragedy.

That is the way life is. He is a very witty character. He's a

student, so he is sarcastic. Not all students are sarcastic. You have to

have the lightness in it, or there is no darkness. There is a

surprising amount of comedy in it. When you think about those big lines

in Hamlet, every night, do you worry about them? Or do you just throw

them out there in conversation? We had this thing in rehearsal called

the famous play buzzer. You have the B or not to be and all these famous

lines. You have to go, what are they saying? And not be too reverent

about them. You do get a sense sometimes when you say to be or not

to be... How many times did you get buzzed in rehearsal? I can imagine

that you couldn't do it casually. No danger of being typecast, because

you are doing still country, a big Hollywood film. And you have said

you would like to dip your little toe into musicals? I would love to

be in a musical. I don't know if I have the pipes for it. Sherlock and

James Bond and staff were very colourful characters, antagonists.

So it is fair to say I'm trying to do things that are little to myself.

What would be your ultimate musical role? Hamlet, the musical. Something

where I could act. I can't really sing properly. Well, you did mention

Sherlock. I know you can't talk about a lot of stuff, but what do

you think is more likely to happen, another general election after the

one on Thursday or another series of Sherlock? I don't think there is

another series of Sherlock coming soon. Which would come first? The

general election! While not doing it for another couple of years.

Everybody got quite busy. And you want to keep it fresh. And even if

there was, you wouldn't tell us. You could see Andrew in Hamlet at the

Harold Pinter theatre here in London from Friday. Now, we are going to

take you back to your roots now, Andrew. Is it right that when our

team called you up and you heard that there was a constable film on

tonight, you said that when you were a kid, you had a jigsaw? I did. You

know how you remember things as a kid? We had a jigsaw of the hay

when, so I know that image well. That must have been many joyful

hours spent. You are in good company, because our reporter is a

big fan too. It is not everyday you find out that

famous lived in your house but that is exactly what happened to a One

Show viewer here in Brighton. I am on a sort of pilgrimage, because

this street was once home to one of Britain pulls my greatest artists, a

real hero of mine. When Peter bought this house in 2010, he had no idea

about its surprising history. After we have been here six months, my

neighbour said do you realise this may be the house that John Constable

lived in? Born in 1776, John Constable is one of the most iconic

landscape painters in history. Works like the leaping horse and his most

famous painting, the Haywain, perfectly captured the beauty of the

English countryside. Between 1824 and 1828, Constable and his family

rented a house in Brighton but the years, its location remained a

mystery. You can't just say somebody famous lived here, you have to prove

it. As a painter himself, Peter was desperate to find out the truth, but

his search didn't start well. He found a letter in the Tate Gallery

that suggested Constable lived at a different address. This is John

Constable, Brighton. It seemed he had drawn a blank until further

research revealed that both his street name and house number had

changed since Constable's time. It was a real revelation. It made the

hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. Peter's kids love living in

a famous building, but it would have been crowded when the Constables

were here, because they had seven children and staff to fit in. So

while Peter has a dedicated studio, John Constable had to share. So why

did Constable come to Brighton? Because his wife was unwell with

tuberculosis. So while she was recuperating, he was out painting.

Over the four years he spent here, Constable painted 150 landscape

views, and Peter's new discovery gave him an idea - to reunite these

extraordinary paintings in the town where they were created.

Working from the pictures, Peter discovered that Constable made some

regular walks and armed with reproductions of his paintings, we

will follow in his footsteps. Our first stop is to try and find a

viewpoint for one of his most famous paintings. That is the Royal Albion.

That is that building. Then you have the sweep of Kemptown. The painting

was further away, halfway between here and the marina. That was

intended to take people to France. I can see what he must have seen but

it has changed massively. With his wife critically ill, Constable's

time in Brighton was difficult and this painting, rainstorm over the

sea shows Constable experimenting, making spontaneous paintings that

perhaps reflected his mood. This little bit there... It is Shoreham

Harbour. I think it is one of the most dynamic pictures I have seen.

Simple brushstrokes, he really captured the mood on this day. After

four productive years, Constable's time in Brighton ended when his wife

passed away in 1828 but the paintings he created here have given

us a real insight into the way that he worked and for our final image, I

am going to create something of my own by updating his picture of the

beach. You can see the kill. That stood in the middle of Brunswick

Square. We are in the right spot. Constable would often paint pictures

in a couple of hours and I am setting myself the same time limit

as a challenge. The colour, the weather, the mood, atmosphere,

everything and that would chill right in his work. Nearly 200 years

after he died, we are still learning about one of Britain's best loved

painters and I just hope my own effort does him justice. And there

you have it, my tribute to my artistic hero, John Constable. Not

bad in a few minutes. APPLAUSE. And if you would like to

see more of Constable's paintings, they are on display at the Brighton

Museum until the 8th of October. Now, Andrew, interestingly, you have

studied a lot and mother was an art teacher. Yes. Got into art school,

but show business took be the other way. Why? What was that change for

you? You thought Hamlet was in the offing. I would love to go back to

it at some point. That suggests that you do not do it at all. I do a

little bit, I draw people sometimes on the tube. Weirdly, our reporter

said he does that as well. I give people the drawing. What do people

make of it? I don't know, I just get off. It is just a nice way of being

able to look out. As a Shakespearean actor, what is your pencil choice?

To be or not to be? That hurt. I told you cannot do it casually. That

is where you do it these days. We are known for being a nation of

music lovers but the country music, not so much which is why Glen

Campbell's success and the side of the Atlantic is all the more

impressive. He started playing guitar for the likes of Elvis and

Frank Sinatra and ended up being one of the biggest country stars of

time. # Galveston, Paul Belverstone.

# I am so crazy. Lyrics -- # And the Wichita Lineman.

# Is still on the line... # Southern nights.

# Have you ever felt the Southern nights?

# Like Rhinestone Cowboy. # Riding out on a horse in a

star-spangled rodeo. And Glen's youngest daughter Ashley is here

with us now. APPLAUSE. How proud you must be of

your dad to see that and to hear that? Absolutely. It is amazing to

see him back in the 1970s and 1960s and how amazing he was. He is still

just crashing it today. His new album is just beautiful. A lot of

people may not know that he is suffering from Alzheimer's and that

is why he cannot be here tonight, he is not well enough at the moment.

How is he doing? He is in the late stages of Alzheimer 's, so it is

very sad to see him like that and he is not able to communicate any more.

He cannot really use language and he has trouble receiving and

understanding language. It could be a lot worse. He is doing so well for

someone in his stage of the disease, he is happy most of the time and he

is enjoying everyday and enjoys eating desert! Which the opposite

could be, he could be confused and scared most of the time and we are

thankful that he is very happy. And the album that you mentioned, it

makes it all the more special, there are 16 tracks on it and it has been

four years in the making. Give us an idea of what you have decided to put

on the album and why? The songs on the album, the new ones are songs

that he has always loved and they have been in his heart and they are

the songs that if he is sitting down at home and playing for friends and

family, those are the songs they would play. What is interesting is

that even after he was diagnosed with Alzheimer

's and he started to lose a lot of present memories and things like

that, these are the songs that stuck with them and they sat down with a

guitar, even if they could not hold a conversation, he would play one of

these songs. When he was diagnosed, you made the decision as a family to

allow the cameras to follow the tour and some people criticised it, but

why did you feel it was right? What did you hope you would get out of

it? He wanted to two and keep singing because that is what he

loved to do. Imagine if you got diagnosed with the disease and you

knew you would lose your memory is eventually, but I am not going to

let you perform. It would be like, wait a minute, I can still do this

and that is what he said. Also, we thought, it turned into this

beautiful therapy and I think it kept him mentally with us for

longer. I guess, the band is made up of so many family members, what was

it like as an experience to go out on to? Parts of you must have been

concerned about what was going to happen? Our first show, after

announcing that he had Alzheimer 's, we were terrified wondering if

anyone would be show up and if they would judge him. But it was amazing

and it sold out and the second he came on stage, everyone in the

audience started cheering and we knew it was going to be OK. You said

that his memory was quite bad, but that when he picked up the guitar,

he would absolutely nail it. We have got this lovely clip that really

sums that up. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. You say in

the documentary, which is so engaging to watch, that because the

music was so rooted deep within him, that is why you believe that that

was the last thing to leave him, if you like. Definitely. It is amazing

the change that we would see from backstage to onstage. My dad's bus

driver is a dear friend and he tells the story of the squirting my dad

onto the stage and he was, having a rambling mood and not making any

sense and the guards were like, OK and then he went on stage and

started singing. At the guards looked at him and went, what was

that! Was it your Father who taught you how to play the banjo? I learned

from watching him. I did it on my own, I have some teachers and after

I got to a certain level, he was one of those people, you would ask to

teach you, and he would just start playing and ask you to try and then

want to record you. Ashley, it is a pleasure to meet you. Thank you for

being on the show. The album, Adios, is released on Friday. It is a joy

to listen to. Ahead of Thursday but a good general election we have

given party leaders the opportunity to speak in their own words about

their political roots. Tonight Tim Farron from the Liberal Democrats

takes us back to Preston. Becoming leader is not that I started off

intending to do. You do not join the Liberals as a fast-track career

move. This is my old house and I grew up here with my mother and my

sister and various cats over the years. One of them is buried right

there! Was a great family time. I remember being with their lads

watching the 1990 penalty shoot out. We were upstairs to my tiny room,

just enough space to fit the Subbuteo final and we re-enacted the

semifinal. There was a field behind there. I got paid for hay bailing

and we used to play on the farm. A little bit smarter. Policy does not

smell of cigarettes any more. This seat here, I was with my friend

David in the autumn of 1998, I actually began to work up the

courage to ask Rosie to marry me. We met at work, my first proper job

after leaving university was at the university of Lancaster. I have got

four lovely kids. There is no more important job than being a father

and a husband. Everything has happened here, I revise for an exam,

wrote songs for my mates, round the corner, I was dumped. You do not

realise you live in poverty until many years later. My parents split

up when I was young, my dad inspired my love of music, he worked in a

building company, but at the weekend, he was a DJ. The band had

various names. The only write-up we had was that we were a fourth rate

new order, but that was not a bad then to be a fourth rate version of!

I remember many rows, because I was the only person here who wanted to

listen to prefab Sprout. Adi Baglan, Britain's greatest poet. I support

Blackburn Rovers. I managed not to get my head kicked in. I want to

apologise to everyone in Preston, but if you get the bug early, you're

saddled with your team for life. I was very moved by what I saw around

me watching the repeat of Cathy Come Home At. It made me cry. That tale

of homelessness and desperation was deeply distressing, particularly

when I could link it to the lives of people around me. It sounds corny...

I think what drew me to the Liberals, was that we were an

outsider party and I felt like an outsider. Half of my mates parents

were out of work a lot of the time. They began to feel that our

community was overlooked and taken for granted. The perfect day for me

with would-be me with my kids and the dog running up a hill, it is

that sense of distance, space, utterly beautiful. When I go running

up the hill, I might not be first, but I never fail to get to the top

even if I am on my hands and knees. I am the worst person to describe

myself. Other people can do that for me. But I think, I am not a quitter.

Not a quitter. And that rounds off our interviews with the party

leaders. We did invite Paul Nuttall to take part but he declined. That

is it for tonight, thank you to our gas, and risk's hamlet opens on

Friday. -- thank you to our guests, and Andrew's Hamlet