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Hello and welcome to The One Show
with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker. Do | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
were joined a Hollywood superstar
who for almost 50 years has been | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
showing us she is not a woman to be
messed with. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:36 | |
messed with. Let's have a little
talk. What do you think? Darling! | 0:00:39 | 0:00:48 | |
Where do you get off behaving like
that with women? | 0:00:48 | 0:00:55 | |
that with women? Do you have a
problem with this? Please welcome | 0:00:55 | 0:01:01 | |
Susan Sarandon! | 0:01:01 | 0:01:08 | |
Susan Sarandon! Wow. You have
starred in over 80 movies. That was | 0:01:08 | 0:01:14 | |
a lot of hair acting. All sorts was
going on. I learned that from Cher. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:21 | |
She figures out her hair first and
goes for the character after. You | 0:01:21 | 0:01:26 | |
think I'm kidding. I can believe
that of Cher. She has a lot of hair | 0:01:26 | 0:01:32 | |
in a lots of films. But is it right
that all this acting was never | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
really on the cards for you and you
ended up acting because you turned | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
up at a boyfriend's audition?
Husband. I married him in my senior | 0:01:39 | 0:01:45 | |
year of college. Chris Sarandon went
on to do dog day afternoon and get | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
an academy award nomination. He
still acts. He needed someone to | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
read a scene, and I did. It was for
an agent, not a part. And she said, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:58 | |
why don't you come back too, and I
came back. Then I kept working, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:04 | |
which seemed hilarious, because I
had never studied acting. It just | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
shows you don't have to know
anything. You just have to figure | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
out how to survive, but the acting
part is not complicated. What were | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
you focusing on? Just getting out of
New Jersey. I wanted to go to | 0:02:14 | 0:02:21 | |
college. I was very interested in
literature and theatre. But the | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
school that I went to was more about
an academic approach. And I was | 0:02:25 | 0:02:32 | |
working my way through, so I had
tonnes of jobs. I was cutting hair, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
ironing, cumin apartments. There are
still people who owe me money. I | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
loved you before, but I found out
today that you came to the UK in | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
2006 to discover whether or not you
had Welsh roots in Tondu, near | 0:02:46 | 0:02:51 | |
Bridgend. I was like, what? That is
a match made in heaven. So how Welsh | 0:02:51 | 0:02:58 | |
are you? Well, it's on my dad's side
and I am Welsh, thank God, because | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
they spent all that money to bring
me in and all my siblings came with | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
me, which is eight siblings. I am
the eldest of nine. They don't want | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
to tell you too much because they
are hoping you will cry and be | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
emotional. So they said, do you know
who Dylan Thomas is? I said, oh, my | 0:03:14 | 0:03:21 | |
God, yes, I do! And they said, no.
Your great-uncle drank with him, or | 0:03:21 | 0:03:30 | |
something. That's all right, that's
a connection. And I had already | 0:03:30 | 0:03:37 | |
spent some Christmases in Swansea,
actually. And then Catherine | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
Zeta-Jones was in Feud, and she is
Welsh. And I had a boyfriend who | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
went to high school with her. We are
basically related. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:56 | |
basically related. Well, for your
latest project, you talked about | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
your love of literature and now it
is very much documentaries. You have | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
looked into the secret life of this
remarkable lady. It is the 1940s | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
actress Hedy Lamarr. We will be
finding out more about her and her | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
story in a little while. She's so
beautiful. They said she was the | 0:04:11 | 0:04:17 | |
most beautiful woman in the world.
Snow-white was apparently based on | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
her. Now, the Home Secretary, Amber
Rudd, says she wants to change the | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
way we as a country think about
domestic abuse. The statistics are | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
striking. Nearly 2 million people a
year are subjected to violence and | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
intimidation in their homes. 100
calls are made every hour to the | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
police and two women are killed
every week in England and Wales. The | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
Home Secretary is with us tonight
and we will be asking her what the | 0:04:41 | 0:04:48 | |
government will be doing to reduce
those numbers. First, Anita has been | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
to see a radical new project in
action. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:56 | |
OK, guys, we are going to be looking
at emotional abuse. Everyone in this | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
room has their own tale to tell
about domestic violence and abuse. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
Don't want to put up with it no
more. You go through it all, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:12 | |
violence, anxiety, depression.
People can only take so much. Treats | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
on the way you want to be treated.
None of them are the victims. When | 0:05:16 | 0:05:23 | |
you were swearing and calling her
bad names, you thought that was OK? | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
This session is part of a pilot
project being run by Northumbria | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
Police. It's been designed to
identify abusers or those at risk of | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
abuse in who it is believed will
respond positively to therapy. The | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
scheme has been championed by police
and crime commission Dame Vera | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
Baird. What is the purpose of this
initiative? People go into prison | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
and come out again and carry on
behaving the way they did. These | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
courses can bring change. At what
point do you identify the | 0:05:52 | 0:05:58 | |
perpetrator and say, you are going
to have this course? We have to find | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
the perpetrator. It comes from a
number of sources. Once it is clear | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
that somebody has made a valid
referral, the police will say, you | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
have been picked out as a domestic
abuse perpetrator. Will you go on | 0:06:10 | 0:06:16 | |
this course? Does it mean that
because you have witnessed domestic | 0:06:16 | 0:06:22 | |
abuse of a child, you will go on to
do that? If you have seen it, you | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
think it is normal. But it is still
a choice you make. From May, tougher | 0:06:26 | 0:06:33 | |
sentencing guidelines will mean
people convicted of domestic abuse | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
in England and Wales are more likely
to go to prison. These participants | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
are working hard to ensure that
doesn't happen to them. For those | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
guys who were here a few weeks ago,
we looked at the effect that abuse | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
has on our partners. It's massive. I
have just stepped out of the session | 0:06:47 | 0:06:53 | |
and it's really powerful stuff. When
I first came here, I wasn't thinking | 0:06:53 | 0:06:59 | |
I should be here. But after this
session, I think I should. They are | 0:06:59 | 0:07:07 | |
being made to think about their
actions and the consequences, and | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
join the dots together. But who is
responsible for your behaviour? But | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
can sessions like this really work?
I have arranged to meet a man who | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
says they can. He has a history of
violence against his wife, the most | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
recent of which led him to become
involved in the project. I got very | 0:07:24 | 0:07:31 | |
abusive and I got the point of
physically pushing her against the | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
wall. She you need help. -- she
said, you need help. What did the | 0:07:34 | 0:07:43 | |
course teach you? They teach you
these things called time-outs. It is | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
a controlling mechanism. You can do
role-playing, which shows you the | 0:07:47 | 0:07:55 | |
way it escalates. Do you think it
has taught you to control your rage? | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
Yes. So you can stop yourself before
it escalates? That is what the | 0:07:59 | 0:08:07 | |
intention is. And you couldn't do
that before? Never had the skill. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:13 | |
Are you a reformed man? Yes. I do
have the occasional argument with my | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
wife, but it doesn't escalate. That
is the difference. The Home Office | 0:08:18 | 0:08:25 | |
is the perpetrator project has
proved so successful that it has | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
invested £1 million to roll it out
to neighbouring forces. But what do | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
the victims themselves think about
this kind of approach? Melanie spent | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
ten years in a physically and
psychologically abusive | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
relationship. We asked her to listen
to some of the session. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:47 | |
to some of the session. Who
identified using abusive behaviour | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
in their assessment? Threatening
behaviour, yeah. I don't know | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
whether it is an attitude of, I've
got my backside on the seat, I am | 0:08:55 | 0:09:01 | |
here. I don't know if this is going
to be a positive outcome. Are you | 0:09:01 | 0:09:09 | |
respected or feared? I think it is
brave for | 0:09:09 | 0:09:17 | |
brave for perpetrators to come
themselves. But I don't think this | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
programme has convinced me any
different of my thought that it | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
won't work. It is a waste of money,
waste of resources. The money should | 0:09:27 | 0:09:33 | |
be focused on victims and their
children. Dame Vera Bird is keen to | 0:09:33 | 0:09:39 | |
reassure victims like Melanie. It's
not an either/or, that is critical. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:45 | |
We continue to spend money on
victims, and that is where the | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
fundamental money must go. But we
will just be mopping up the mess | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
made by these perpetrators,
supporting people in that way, if we | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
don't also tackle it. For the men
attending the session, there is | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
still a long road ahead. What is at
the top of the list? Respect. So | 0:10:03 | 0:10:11 | |
that be mindful of listening is
really important in a relationship. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:16 | |
The Home Secretary Amber Rudd joins
us now. So today you have launched | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
this Domestic Abuse Bill. It is a 12
week consultation period where you | 0:10:19 | 0:10:26 | |
will be listing to the general
public. You heard what Melanie, a | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
victim, said about her view on the
counselling perpetrators. What is | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
your reaction to what she said? Our
focus is always going to be on the | 0:10:35 | 0:10:41 | |
victims. This consultation shows
that. We are introducing measures | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
and consulting on them to make sure
that victims get more support at | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
every stage. We are also identifying
additional victims and encourage | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
them to come forward. But what we
saw here was a new programme to stop | 0:10:53 | 0:10:59 | |
domestic abuse. With perpetrators,
you see a lot of repeat activity. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
What we have seen from this
initiative, which was launched in | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
2015, is a 60% reduction in the
amount of people repeat offending. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:13 | |
It is a big change. We have also
announced that we will be rolling it | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
out to five other police forces with
an additional 7 million. So it is a | 0:11:17 | 0:11:23 | |
big approach in terms of reducing
the amount of domestic abuse as well | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
as supporting victims. Having
watched that film, Susan, do you | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
think Melanie is right? I can
understand Melanie after living for | 0:11:31 | 0:11:37 | |
ten years in an abusive situation,
why she would be reluctant to trust | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
that there can be change. But I
think to break up families and not | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
give a shot to someone to learn to
reprogram themselves... It does come | 0:11:45 | 0:11:51 | |
from either a problem with anger
management or growing up in an | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
atmosphere where this seems normal.
Also, in the United States, there | 0:11:55 | 0:12:02 | |
are programmes in high school or
younger for girls to identify that | 0:12:02 | 0:12:08 | |
this is abusive behaviour, because
it starts really young. So young | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
girls can see that this isn't normal
for them to be shoved around either. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Very often, "He cares about me so
much that he is jealous and | 0:12:15 | 0:12:22 | |
violent", whatever, that association
is not healthy, so to make that | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
clear early on is also effective. So
it if you were part of this | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
consultation, what would you be
saying to our Home Secretary that | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
could work in helping to reduce
violence? It is totally on the right | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
track. It's not an either/or
situation, as she says. You have to | 0:12:37 | 0:12:45 | |
give families a shot, give these
guys a shot to keep families | 0:12:45 | 0:12:51 | |
together and to not let it go on
forever. But I can understand that | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
if you have been living this way for
a long time, it's hard to believe | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
that something would change. I agree
with this point about learned | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
behaviour. We saw that from some of
the comments from the men. They | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
might have seen it in their
families. So if we can stop that | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
cycle, then the children are less
likely to think it is normal | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
behaviour. They need to learn it in
school as well. And it's not just | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
about changing the law, it might be
about the public be more forthcoming | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
and reporting abuse if they see or
hear it. Exactly, is about women | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
having the confidence to come out
and talk about it, taking away the | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
shame, acknowledging that so much of
it takes place, and for them to be | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
confident that when they do report
it, action will be taken. We have | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
introduced new training for police
so that when it is reported, they | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
are sensitive about knowing how to
approach it. I was at a police | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
station the other day and the police
described to me how they had been | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
called into a house for something
else entirely and they're one of | 0:13:48 | 0:13:56 | |
them spotted a post it on the fridge
which said, asked the master before | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
opening. And he started asking
questions, and all this coercive and | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
controlling behaviour came out and
action was taken. So it is being | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
aware and looking for the signs. You
are here on The One Show because you | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
want the public to get involved. So
how can they help? Talk to your | 0:14:08 | 0:14:14 | |
friends. Unfortunately, everybody
will know somebody or themselves, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
who is having some sort of
experience of that. They should not | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
put up with it. Find out what other
people are doing and make sure that | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
if they need help, they get it. If
you have been affected by domestic | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
abuse or you want to get involved
with the consultation and give your | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
opinions, there is more information
on our website. Before you go, we | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
can't have you here and not ask
about the current poison situation | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
with Sergei Skripal and his
daughter. And their policeman was | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
also involved. We are hearing the 21
people are being treated. What is | 0:14:47 | 0:14:53 | |
the current situation? This was a
dreadful event and it has been | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
unravelling over four days. I have
spoken to the head of | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
counterterrorism police, who gave me
the update. You're right, 21 people | 0:15:00 | 0:15:06 | |
have sought medical advice. Out of
that, two of them, the targets, are | 0:15:06 | 0:15:12 | |
still seriously ill. I am pleased to
say the policeman is now stable. But | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
this is a live criminal
investigation. It is a very serious | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
matter, and attempted murder, and we
will give the police space to do | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
their investigation so that they can
reach conclusions which we can | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
follow up. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:34 | |
Susan's latest project is one she
has produced, Bombshell: The Hedy | 0:15:34 | 0:15:41 | |
Lamarr Story. It is about the 1940s
film star. Yes, she was known as the | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
world's most beautiful woman but
there | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
world's most beautiful woman but
there was more to her than that. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:53 | |
It was her hobby. She had a complete
table said up in her house. Howard | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
Hughes gave her a set of equipment.
Howard Hughes wanted to build the | 0:16:01 | 0:16:10 | |
fastest planes in the world so he
could send them -- sell them to the | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
airports. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
What a brilliant story to have on
International women's's day. You | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
produced the documentary, Susan, and
Alexander directed it. How did you | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
come together to work on this
project? We have a mutual friend in | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
her brother. Who also produced. And
has been a friend of mine. We were | 0:16:54 | 0:17:02 | |
forming a documentary film company.
And Alex was interested in this. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
There was a book. I met with the guy
who had of the book, that led to the | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
next thing. Luckily all my children
have left home. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:19 | |
have left home. And we moved a
couple of extra tables in and | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
started to use my apartment. When
you do all of this there is an | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
enormous amount of research that
goes into this, Alex. Was there a | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
key moment when you thought, this is
on, let's do this? There was a | 0:17:29 | 0:17:35 | |
moment when I thought, we have a
problem. At the beginning we didn't | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
have her voice. I wanted to do this
story but I was reluctant to plunge | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
ahead without Heddy's on voice. She
had died having become a recluse and | 0:17:45 | 0:17:51 | |
not really wanting to tell the world
her story. Everything that was | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
presented to me at the beginning of
the books about her life was | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
somewhat questionable. Scientists
were also saying to me, we want this | 0:17:59 | 0:18:06 | |
to be true at how likely is it
really? Yeah. Then some tapes came | 0:18:06 | 0:18:14 | |
into play. Yeah, the miracle of my
life. Your children will not like | 0:18:14 | 0:18:23 | |
that! And my two boys! The third
miracle of my life was that moment | 0:18:23 | 0:18:31 | |
with the tapes. We had been working
on the film six months when we | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
finally found them. We found them
just by systematically calling every | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
person alive that could possibly
have them. We finally got down to a | 0:18:40 | 0:18:46 | |
reporter for Forbes magazine, and he
had talked to her in 1990. And I | 0:18:46 | 0:18:52 | |
contacted him he called me back and
said, "I have been waiting 25 years | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
for you to call me." Chill start my
arms. Then you could go forward | 0:18:56 | 0:19:05 | |
because you had the proof. She
changed the shape of aeroplane | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
wings. It was communication systems
that was the big thing. She formed | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
the basis for what we still used
today? Your cellphone, everything. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
But the Navy just ignored her. Her
mum was in Europe. She escaped, she | 0:19:18 | 0:19:26 | |
was Jewish, her mum was still in
Europe. She was trying to get her | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
mother over. She had an emotional
reason to find out how to get people | 0:19:31 | 0:19:37 | |
safely over. She came over with this
jamming, finding alternating | 0:19:37 | 0:19:43 | |
signals, currents what do you call
them? It was no longer possible to | 0:19:43 | 0:19:49 | |
jam. But they didn't use it. She
ended up dying without any money, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:58 | |
and six husbands later. Our whole
life is quite dramatic. This was | 0:19:58 | 0:20:05 | |
before she became an actress. She
ran off and started at 16 and went | 0:20:05 | 0:20:13 | |
to a film studio and then did a
controversial film called ecstasy. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:19 | |
Then she married at 19 and arms
dealer who was working with Hitler. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:26 | |
Then realised eventually that maybe
she wasn't in the safest place. And | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
hired a maid that look like her.
Then knocked her out in her bed and | 0:20:30 | 0:20:37 | |
pedalled way to freedom. It just
gets better and better. By this time | 0:20:37 | 0:20:44 | |
she was kind of known because of
this risk a film. She was almost | 0:20:44 | 0:20:51 | |
signed to something in England by
Louis Payne Meara. She managed to | 0:20:51 | 0:20:57 | |
get on the same boat he was going on
to America. Summer by the end of | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
that journey she had convinced him
she was worth more money. And then | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
she was in Hollywood. She had a lot
of really wonderful roles. And she | 0:21:03 | 0:21:09 | |
was gorgeous. She learned English.
She changed her name. I don't want | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
to give the whole thing away there
must be a film on this. There have | 0:21:13 | 0:21:21 | |
been people trying to make it into a
film. I think it is more of a TV | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
series because there is so much
going on. Then you have the whole | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
thing of ages in Hollywood, which I
can relate to. Is it right that her | 0:21:28 | 0:21:35 | |
daughter's godmother was Bette
Davis? De Bruyne that is right. -- | 0:21:35 | 0:21:42 | |
That is right. That is another
connection with you. You played | 0:21:42 | 0:21:49 | |
Bette Davis in Feud. Is that
something that still happens in | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
Hollywood? | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
Hollywood? Maybe in music. Maybe
these rock and roll girls. You hear | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
about some of them writing bad
lyrics about each other. But I think | 0:22:02 | 0:22:11 | |
long ago, it's not true. The power
has shifted. Aligning yourself with | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
men and seeing them as your
competition, therefore enemy, is no | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
longer really relevant. My
experience has been that everybody | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
realises and helps each other. Maybe
you are disappointed somebody else | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
got a part you wish you had had, but
being envious is not the same as | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
trying to take somebody out. Do you
still feel competitive in the music | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
-- movie industry? I'm competitive
with myself. By the time you've been | 0:22:37 | 0:22:44 | |
in the business for more than 50
years, things either come to you or | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
you don't. I found dead man walking,
the book, and I developed that. I | 0:22:47 | 0:22:56 | |
going to get ahead of Meryl Streep
if there is something coming up? | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
Probably not. I have more than
enough challenges with the way my | 0:22:59 | 0:23:05 | |
life is going, so I'm cool with it.
But I think there is enough work for | 0:23:05 | 0:23:10 | |
everybody, and there are so many
more women now developing projects. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:16 | |
They are female centric. All
different kinds of women. That is | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
what we need. We need more diverse,
more female centric stories. What a | 0:23:18 | 0:23:26 | |
brilliant day to have you both on
the sofa. Thank you very much. We | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
will say goodbye now as you have to
go to the BFI to see a screening of | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
your project. Thank you for your
company. Thank you. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:40 | |
APPLAUSE. It opens tomorrow in
cinemas. Whilst Hedy Lamarr laid the | 0:23:40 | 0:23:50 | |
foundations for GPS, Wi-Fi and
Bluetooth, we focus on an inventor | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
who solved a British problem. It is
all to do with tea, of course. | 0:23:54 | 0:24:01 | |
I'm Dr John C. Taylor. You may not
know my name but he will definitely | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
have used one of my inventions. The
switch that turns of a kettle when | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
it boils. With the rise in the
number of electric kettles in the | 0:24:09 | 0:24:16 | |
1960s, I saw an opportunity to
invent a control that did just that. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
And this is it. The buyer metallic
snap action blade. Heat up the | 0:24:19 | 0:24:27 | |
medal. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
medal. Jump into the air. Once the
blade cools down, it cools -- jumps | 0:24:32 | 0:24:40 | |
into the air. Mr! So the click their
provides the motion and the force | 0:24:40 | 0:24:46 | |
that switches of the cattle. And
over 5 billion of these blades have | 0:24:46 | 0:24:52 | |
been sold worldwide. I have lived
and worked for most of my life here | 0:24:52 | 0:24:58 | |
in the Isle of Man. And I would like
to tell you a few things that have | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
helped to make me the inventor that
I am today. My father was Eric | 0:25:02 | 0:25:08 | |
Taylor. He was also an inventor. So
I take after him. He invented all | 0:25:08 | 0:25:15 | |
the flying suits for the bomber
crews during the war. And the | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
electrically heated suits kept them
alive in the cold of flying at | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
30,000 feet. Inspired by my father,
I began my inventing career at the | 0:25:23 | 0:25:29 | |
tender age of nine. But at 13, when
my parents sent me to college on the | 0:25:29 | 0:25:36 | |
Isle of Man, they had the task of
reinventing me. I took the entrance | 0:25:36 | 0:25:41 | |
exam here. The principal, Mr Wilson,
reported to my parents when we had | 0:25:41 | 0:25:48 | |
the interview that I was practically
illiterate. He said, "But you have | 0:25:48 | 0:25:56 | |
done a good paper in maths and you
did a good science paper, I'm sure | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
we can find something good in you.
For" it turned out I had dyslexia. I | 0:25:59 | 0:26:06 | |
used it to my advantage when I
realised I could think differently | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
to others. With my gift for maths
and physics I was granted a place at | 0:26:09 | 0:26:14 | |
Corpus Christi College in Cambridge
to study natural sciences. Setting | 0:26:14 | 0:26:19 | |
me up for my inventing career. After
Cambridge I joined my father's | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
company, where I had the freedom to
invent. It has not all been about | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
kettles. I have over 200 inventions.
My most unique one is the Corpus | 0:26:27 | 0:26:35 | |
Christi clerk, unveiled in 2008 by
Professor Stephen Hawking. However, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:43 | |
the invention I perhaps most proud
of is the place I call home. I would | 0:26:43 | 0:26:50 | |
like you -- to welcome you to my
house. I thought it would be fun to | 0:26:50 | 0:26:56 | |
do something completely different,
which nobody had ever done before, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
and that is to have an atrium in the
middle of the house which is | 0:26:59 | 0:27:05 | |
elliptical. I wanted the floor to
look like a dearly with a curved | 0:27:05 | 0:27:11 | |
top. Yes, the centrepiece is my bio
metallic plate. There is a wonderful | 0:27:11 | 0:27:21 | |
echo here. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
echo here. OK, time to get on with
my life lecturer at University | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
College, Isle of Man. I hope I have
invented a useful speech. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
A scientific education teaches you
that if you find new information, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
you change your theory and you start
again. But I think that is the wrong | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
way to do it in practicalities. If
the first thing you thought of was | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
an invention, then if you can change
it around, which stops it working, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
you've got a really good invention.
You have to turn it to an advantage | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
and make it into a success. My motto
is, think the unthinkable. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:11 | |
is, think the unthinkable. My mother
was a Latin teacher. It is very | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
important to have fun. Life goes by
very, very quickly. And here I am, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:23 | |
81, still having fun. Thank you all
very much. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
That is 30 seconds before we can put
the kettle on. Your nominations have | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
been pouring in all week for our NHS
patients award, which we launched on | 0:28:32 | 0:28:38 | |
Monday with the help of the
Patients' Association. There is | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
still time to nominate anybody
working in the NHS who you want to | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
thank for going the extra mile when
you needed them. Yes, head to our | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
website for all of the details of
how to nominate. Thanks to all our | 0:28:50 | 0:28:55 | |
guests for joining us. I'm back
tomorrow with Michael Ball and | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
wreckage of days. Have a lovely
night. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 |