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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones...

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Matt Baker and, for one night only, we're being helped out

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by the oldest eight-year-old in the world, Charlie Brown -

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It is wonderful to have you both with us tonight.

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Could you bring on our guest, please, guys?

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never really quite grown up - Ian Hislop.

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You do not mind. You know what is coming next. Let's split screen it.

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It could not be more perfect. I will have to buy that one. Snoopy was my

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first journalistic idol. He had a typewriter with a press hat on. We

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said that. Now if, like Ian, you or a family

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member are like a Peanuts character, Or maybe you're a faithful beagle

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like Snoopy. Send us a photo and the real Charlie

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and Snoopy will judge the best after we've had a look at their brand new

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Peanuts Movie. The police are warning that computer

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hacking is now so easy that children of primary

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school age are starting to do it. We're about to meet a lad,

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who started on the slippery slope to serious hacking when he was just

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11 and ended up in jail. Ryan is now advising parents

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on what to look out for. Cyber hacking is big news and it is

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not always down to organised criminal gangs. Hackers appear to be

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getting younger and younger and freely available software opens up

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cyber crime to almost anyone with a bit of computer know-how. Now, 28,

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Ryan Ackroyd started out breaking basic computer programs when he was

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just 11. By 2011 he was in jail for his part in a notorious hacking

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group. That targets included the NHS, the Serious Organised Crime

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Agency and even the CIA. You have a slogan, laugh at your security. We

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were laughing at the state of security, how poor it was, how weak

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it was, and how easy it was to overcome and compromise. Nowadays

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Ryan works with the law to expose security weaknesses that still

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exist. Within minutes he has shown me a common flaw that he thinks any

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young hacker could exploit, making thousands of firms vulnerable. There

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we are, it has installed on 122,000 web servers. It is not just

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businesses. These are all government agencies. If someone broke into

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there, it would be quite serious. If we were the bad guys, how far away

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are we from taking over their websites? Just a couple of clicks.

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That is all it would take. We will not reveal the details of that

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security flaw and we have passed Ryan's find in onto the national

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crime agency. Richard Jones is the head of cyber crimes prevention. He

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says the average age of suspect fibre, North has dropped from 24 to

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just 17. More serious cyber criminals have recruited younger,

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technically skilled individuals for hacking. Also we have seen people as

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young as 12 purchasing cyber crime products from the internet. The

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National crime agency has launched a campaign aimed at persuading

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youngsters to use their talents to protect our cyber security and not

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undermine it was that it is working closely with computer security

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experts like Doctor David Dave. Certainly now there is an

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identification of the need to get youngsters to take a different

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path. It stops lives and Palin is being wasted. Doctor Day has put his

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students skills to the test. They have some unlikely competition, from

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me. I have no computer programming skills. Ryan reckons with freely

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available software, even I can get hacking. I am going head to head

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with the students as we raced to hack each other's computer. It does

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not take long, even for me. I am in. I have managed to hack into

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their computers, just like a scammer would put anything on their

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keyboards, banking information, passwords... Absolutely everything.

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Ryan wants to show how easy it is to get to grips with the software used

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to hack on TalkTalk. That is it. You are in. Basically, now, I am the

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administrator. If this were a real cyber attack I could access customer

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details and private documents. I am really surprised. I thought there

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would be staged after stage. It is that easy. You would be surprised to

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know how many websites are vulnerable to that. That is

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frighteningly simple. That's implicitly makes it all too easy for

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teenagers to get drawn into illegal hacking. It is a wake-up call for

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parents. Just because your child is not out on the streets, they may not

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be safe. They may be in their bedrooms, on their computers,

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committing cyber crime right now. Danvers others he taken aback at how

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easy it was. Can you believe this goes on and so easily? -- Dan was

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obviously taken aback. We are so illiterate at privatise no 1 can get

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in because we do not have any computers. Let's start with targets.

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-- Private Eye. You announce that Rupert Murdoch had died. At the

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time, the Sun newspaper was a controversial target. They were in

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the news what they did with the mobile phones, hacking voice mails

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and things. At the time, we thought would be ironic to hack them. Is it

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a challenge to get into it or see the reaction when you do? What is

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the driver? It was a challenge thank you your city. Being able to do it

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myself. There were serious consequences to your curiosity. You

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ended up in jail. How and when did you eventually get caught? I was

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arrested in 2011 and I were sentenced in 2013. How did they find

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out? What were the clues? Mike -- my computer basically failed. I gave it

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a good bash and they managed to retrieve my information out of it.

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How serious are the sentences? The maximum sentence is ten years. There

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are other consequences, such as restriction of internet use and

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stuff like that. We heard in the film, Dan was using software he had

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got on the internet. How come it is so easy to get hold of that

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software? Why aren't you doing more to stop that stuff becoming easily

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accessible? We will arrest people for doing this. We will take down

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the criminal infrastructure. We're working with partners here and

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overseas. We have our Prevent campaign to stop young people

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getting into this in the first place. Making them understand risks

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and getting them to work with kids to understand what the skills are

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really like and they can have positive reasons and careers. They

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can work for the Government and other law enforcement agencies. Lots

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of good stuff they can do with their careers instead. That would be your

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message, I presume, having been on both sides. There is a penetration

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test. You can earn anything between ?30,000, all the way up to ?70,000,

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?80,000 a year. That is if you go to university and get the

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qualifications and actually choose that good path rather than the path

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that I chose. Thank you both. Very interesting.

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Now when we decided to send a One Show team to compete at the UK

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But, we realised we've never been more

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Charlie, Snoopy, you best cover your ears.

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I have rallied the best three voices in the one show family. Richard

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Mannering, Joe Crowley and Riley. We are going to meet a master of

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harmony to quit us into shapes for the barbershop Championships in

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Llandudno. # There is a song in my heart for

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you, my love! # not the reaction I was hoping for.

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Help is on hand in the form of this 40-year-old veteran on the

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barbershop scene. First we need to work out who was singing -- who will

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be singing which part. Your first barbershop called. Well

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done! We actually sound all right but can

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we cope with our competition piece. The melody stays on the single note.

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It is held across. The other parts moved to a different chord. Despite

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being the One Show's resident is it man, Richard is struggling. There

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are odd harmonies in the middle and you have to link notes which you do

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not expect. # There is a song in my heart for

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you, my love. # I am just sitting there, watching

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them, thinking, I am going to have to start singing and I have no idea

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what to do. # There is a song in my heart for

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you, my love. Everyone is putting a brave face on

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this but we still have not got it. When it comes to presentation, I

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have asked covered. Come on! I do not believe it. We do not wear this

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stuff at all. This is last year. A young quartet. It makes a mark. It

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brings us together, doesn't it? It gives a corporate spirit. We will be

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performing in front of thousands. He is clear that we face our fears and

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face the audience. # It soon is a hymn to your brains.

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# Come forward to the book lives. Nice

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spacing. We come up now. -- beef but lights. With just two weeks to the

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competition, it feels like we are starting to gel at last. There is a

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song in my heart for you, and to you, and you. -- and you. Did it get

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worse the more they practised? It started strong and then they went

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downhill rapidly. Ian, if we needed an emergency replacement, we have

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the proof you could do it. Here we go.

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# Don't leave me this way... # It is what we would want. A

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beautiful falsetto section. It is ideal. Jimmy Somerville strikes the

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again. That is the only thing I can do. Only the whole I do Jeremy

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Corbyn during the National Anthem. Right. Yes. Private Eye is back on

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the shelves the annual. Again. And the magazine this year has sold more

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than it has in the last 30 years. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Not

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unbelievable. Brilliant. Why then, do you think that 2015 has been such

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rich pickings? Everything got interesting. Because all the

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forecasts were wrong. The wrong people won the election, the wrong

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people won in Scotland. Jeremy Corbyn won, no-one saw that coming,

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he won the by-election, no-one sawing in coming. Everyone got it

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wrong, so that is funny. In terms of planning does that make it harder

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for you? You are trying to predict a bit in front of, you know, what...

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bit in front of, you know,what... whatIsh. We are more reactive.

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Something funny happens and we go for it. Yes, it was a very good

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year, because everything is up in the air, and no-one knows what is

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going on. It is lovely, we were talking about the internet and cyber

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crime and all that, but to have that thing, that annual, that old school,

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just an annual or a magazine, that says a lot in the last 30 years you

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have sold more. Than before the internet was invented. Our website

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says go and buy the magazine. That is perfect. That is shows how

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sophisticated we have got. Miliband and Nick Clegg have gone. Now we

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have Corbyn and far Ron. Has that been a good trade? It is not a bad

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trade. Miliband, if anybody remember, he used to be the person

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who was left-wing before Corbyn, and then we revised that, the Liberal

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Democrats got wiped out, Tim Farron is, is now head of, head of all six

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of them. And Scotland went entirely SNP so we have Nicola Sturgeon who

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is new and feisty, and so everything change, which is great for us,

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because it means all the relationships change. Cameron is

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still there, but you know, he is on holiday a lot, so...

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LAUGHTER I am being balanced here. We are on

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the BBC! What do you like then, because... I didn't mention Nigel

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Farage. I forgot. Oh, no time. Deadline Day yesterday, what are you

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as an editor like leading up to the final few hours after the magazine

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is put together? I need a good joke for the cover and a really good

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story, to lead on off the back of what we have, so in the last minutes

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before we go to press, everyone is trying to get their joke on the

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cover, I am sitting there trying to say what about mine, I bet it is

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really funny? They are not laughing and the journalists are saying I

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have a good story about the floods or a good story about training

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pilots, as we send them off to where ever that I have gone this time, so

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those are the combination, it is jokes and journalism. How important

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is that cover, for you? Do you sell more copies off the back a really

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good coffer? Yes. -- cover. If we fail you can see it. Some PMQ want

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the see on the cover. Which covers... I think we have the cover.

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You have brought with you for, so yes, here is the story from the

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issue which will be on London shelves today. We haven't got that

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now. Sorry. It is a secret. I thought you brought it with you.

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Which one stands out to you then, from 2015? The one that sold most

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was the one after the election, a wonderful picture of David Cameron

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standing in front of his new team and they are standing with their

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hands by their sides and Cameron is saying hands up who thought we would

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win? It proved popular. My other favourite was Jeremy Corbyn saying I

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love Marx. It's where I get all my vests.

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Is this it? From tomorrow? No. OK. Let's move on. It is going well! It

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is obviously my influence. We will have to buy it to find out. The

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Private Eye annual is out now. Here is an idea that unlike the

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barbershop quartet did look good on paper and it still does. Baubles,

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shimmering Christmas trees and miles of light. The art of Christmas is

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usually about sparkle and shine. What if I told you all you needed to

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conjure up the ultimate Christmas masterpiece was a sheet of white

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Pape? Also, the Japanese traditional art of Kirigami.

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Most people have heard of origami the Japanese craft of paper folding

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but possibly not Kirigami which uses a similar technique but allows you

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to make cuts and folds. Mark has been conjuring models off paper

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since he was a child. He has crafted models which have

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seen him become Britain's leading Kirigami artist. Tell me about the

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rules of Kirigami? It is one sheet of paper. You can't glue anything to

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it. You can't add extra bits, you have to make sure everything stands

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up by itself. These two are made of one sheet of paper. What is this one

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This is from my recent Star Wars Kirigami exhibition. Lighting plays

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a big part. Yes, it is crucial. It creates that wonderful little world.

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It is thought that Kirigami was first used in Japanese temp --

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temples as a way of making offerings to to gods. It became a popular past

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time for Japanese upper classes because paper was a luxury items and

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they symbolised wealth and elegance. Today Mark is bringing this craft

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into the 21st century with a one off model for The One Show of BBC

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London's Broadcasting House. This is such a complicated building.

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I can't quite get my head round how you are going to make a curved

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building from a flat sheet of paper. First step for me is to work out

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what the basic shape of the building is and see how I can reduce those

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curved edges to flat fronts. That way we will get a wonderful effect

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of this sweeping edge the billing has. It must be a challenge? Yes, I

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am always up for a challenge. The next step is for Mark to use a

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computer programme to turn his sketches into a detailed

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architectural plan. Then, we are ready to get snipping.

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There she goes. We are off and running.

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Do you think I could have a go? Of course you can. Crikey, I need my

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glasses. Oh. You tidy it up for me. I better leave that to the master.

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It is amazing howent Kate you have to be. Making the cuts is the first

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part of any Kirigami masterpiece. Next comes the folding.

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The folding element is the part that brings it to life, and that creates

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the illusion of a 3-D building. All in the folding. I can't see how you

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are going to create this 3-D building from a flat sheet of paper.

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I can't get my head round it. Just starring to see how how it is

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getting the depth. Starting to lift off the page. Yes. That is the best

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bit. It is amazing. So there we go. I think that is it

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all folded now. Right and then it should go... And you have forgot one

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thing. There we go. We have a Christmas tree.

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After all, it is Christmas. A One Show festive model is nearly

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finished but we have one final trick up our sleeve to bring it to life.

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Right. Here we go. I suppose this is the moment of truth. It is amazing.

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You must be happy with how that has turned out I am pretty pleased. It

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picks out the reindeer and the Christmas tree. Amazing what you can

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achieve with just a blank sheet of white paper.

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That is absolutely fantastic isn't it. It is beautiful. It looks so

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real when you consider where we are sitting right now. Beautiful. Thank

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you very much Tuffers. It is great. There is the reality of it. OK, now,

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thank you for sending in all of the pictures you have done with your

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Peanuts characters look a like, there we are. So this is Helen's

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dog. There you have Snoopy, look. Six months old Teddy starring at

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Charlie Brown sent in by mum Kate. Another version of you Snoopy. Carl

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from Lowestoft has a dog that looks like you. It goes to show how

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popular the characters still are after so many years and our Lucy,

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not the bossy one went to find out why.

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Charlie Brown you block head. That of course is Charlie Brown, the

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insecure boy who just wanted to be liked. And the main character in one

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of the most read comic strips of all time Peanuts. Good grief. It was

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created in 1950 by Charles Schultz. And was based on the lives of

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charily, his dog Snoopy and their friends. It became a phenomenon and

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helped secure it as the norm throughout the world.

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By the mid-sixties it reached its peak as a popular TV series too,

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with a Championship's Christmas being seen by nearly half the

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American pub ling on its first showing. Charlie Brown is a block

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head, but he did get a nice tree. And this Christmas after so long

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away they are back. Yes. Snoopy, Charlie Brown, and friends are about

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to delight a new generation and for the very first time, they are in

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3-D? Hu? Snoopy. I am a big Peanuts fan. I group up with the character,

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I wanted to bring those pose, those expressions, that emotion to life on

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the screen. What I love about Charles Schultz,

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there is a beauty in his pen, that little wiggle and that led us to a

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style for Charlie Brown's face, the eyes are really like two ink

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droplets and the mouth looks like a wiggly pen line so we felt like we

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were connected -- connecting to the characters we have always loved.

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What do you want? Peanuts was more nan a cartoon for children. It was

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unique in it used an adult frame of reference in world where there were

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no adults. I can recommend a book, painting or song but I can't explain

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love. It is psychological overtones struck a chord with the audience.

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She looked at me. Charlie Brown it is true, you need me to point out

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your faults Charlie Brown. These characters deal with the human

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condition, they are reflection of us. I see myself in Charlie Brown,

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often. Which character relates most closely to you? Snoopy I would say.

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As you can see, just because he is witty, he likes to get into trouble.

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There is a bit of Charlie Brown in all of us. He is shy, he is

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thoughtful. The dog loves you for who you are, it is nice to have

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someone who will listen to you. Marcie. Why? Because I really like

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books and sometimes he is an I knows me a lot. Marcie you have made egg

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soup! So, what about this new movie. Time to make a ruling. Snoopy, what

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makes you think it is legal to dress up as a pilot and fly a plane? It

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was what I was raised on. I used to buy Charlie Brown books when I was a

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kid. I thought it was fabulous. Loved it. Love Snoopy, love Charlie

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Brown. Remind me of my childhood. My grand daughter is looking forward to

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it. I fell in love with the characters in the '70s. Knew they

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would love Woodstock and Snoopy. This film captures the nostalgia of

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what I experienced watching the cartoons.

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Good grief! It looks so affectionately done. You

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should be proud of you, the pair of you. Look at this last one. Looking

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out of the cat flap. Send in by Sara. You will like this one. Here

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is who is behind door number eight on the advent calendar. This is Beth

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Smith. Her Christmas will be extra special because her dog Belle had

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puppies last week which are doing well. There they are. It will be

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more than special. It will be chaotic. Snoopy and Charlie Brown,

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the peanuts movie is out on December 21st. Thank you for coming in. They

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didn't put a foot wrong. Thanks to Ian, the Private Eye annual... With

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more adult cartoons. It is out now. With us tomorrow is Tim Roth, and

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one of the world's best singers Placido Domingo, we will see you at

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7.00. Good night.

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