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Girl fan sent a message in a bottle. Tonight, on The One Show, she'll

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meet the boy who found it. Making the introductions, a woman who

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special ices in bringing long-lost people together. Joining her, the

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man who tried to bring the whole country together after the fall of

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Margaret Thatcher. country together after the fall of

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No, not him. Him. Music with a message from the Manic Street

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Preachers. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE What a show we have. Welcome to The

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One Show and welcome of course to Davina McCall and Sir John Major.

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Sir John is this your first time on The One Show? It is. We will settle

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you down with cricket talk. You nearly didn't make it, you were in a

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lift 20 seconds ago. I'm glad it works. A close run thing. Cricket

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259-4 against India. Will retain national pride on the sporting

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front? Yeah. Sure, it's an extremely good batting wicket. Each of of our

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batsmen scored a Test 100. We should be more confident. There we are.

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Come on! Come on! This is the first time we have seen you lady since

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your amazing beyond breaking point challenge? Is it really? I have seen

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you, but on the show for the first time. Looking radiant you have

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recovered and all fine? I have. It took a while. Three months before I

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could think about sitting on a bicycle, I'm back in the saddle and

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very happy about it. A big congratulations. Thank you. We will

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talk about why you are back in the saddle shortly. Sir John you have

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been at Buckingham Palace. We will talk about that later. We have a

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film in Paul Eddington's son. Now, yes Prime Minister, were you a fan

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back in the day? I was a fanst fan. Everybody was. I can recall meetings

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that stopped because we wished to go out and watch the show. You are

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kidding me? Absolutely not! Absolutely not! Wow. The You will

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enjoy this film we have. Get the tissues at the ready. Davina will be

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telling us about the brand new series of Long Lost Family. The Matt

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has been in bits this afternoon. I have. I have just recovered in time

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for this evening's With the programme. Boom in the private

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rental sector, more and more people are finding themselves living in

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squalor and having to pay for the privilege. Tony Livesey's been to

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Oxford to join an inspection team who are fighting an increasing

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problem, dodgy landlords. This is Adrian Chowns he works on Oxford's

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City Council's front-line in its battle with bad landlords. Across

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England and Wales, landlords need a license before they can let a

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property, room by room to five or more people. In Oxford, they have

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tightened the rules, you need a license if you're letting it to more

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than two. I'm from the council. I spoke to you the other As well day.

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As making sure landlords have licenses, it's Adrian's job to make

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sure they are not exploiting tenants. He and his colleagues

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inspected 350 properties last year, and prosecuted 12 landlords. There

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has been a report of a pest infestation at this property, Adrian

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also suspects the landlord is unlicensed. There are cockroaches

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everywhere. They have gone under there. Living under the tiles. Look

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at them running away now. There is a cockroach on the fridge there on the

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front of the door. Oh, my God! There it is. The tenant has to do a bit of

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cleaning. Professional cleaners are required here. When you are a

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landlord you have a basic responsibility. Even though a tenant

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might be responsible for attracting cockroaches in the first place it's

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up to land Lords to get rid of them. One of the tenants here, who doesn't

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want to be identified, shows me the room she rents and shares with her

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baby. Can I get that for you? Yes. She and her baby aren't just sharing

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with the cockroaches, there are bed bugs too. Biting your baby? Yeah,

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they are biting my baby. On his cheek? Yes. That's not good at night

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if you can't get to Mum says sleep. She lies awake at night removing the

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bed dugs from her baby and squashing them. You see that splatter. How

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much rent do you play? ?360 a month. It works out at nearly ?4,500 a

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year. Adrian finds some of the rooms have more than one paying tenants.

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That room has been let to one person. We found three people in

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there. It is a case of us speaking to the landlord or the agent and

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finding out what the situation is. He has known landlords to rent out

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every available space they can. Make sure there is nobody living in the

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shed. How typical is that house? We are finding it on a regular basis.

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Adrian will contact this landlord to tell them the house is not up to

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scratch. If you are a landlord cramming people into your property

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what can you make? If they are operating 20 properties unlawfully,

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you know, they could be turning over between ?300,000 and half a million

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worth in rent a year. What are the penalties if you transgress? You can

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be fined up to ?20,000. We find the courts are a little reluctant to

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(inaudible). They will issue fines of ?2,000. Our next house has had

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four visits from the team. He is hoping to see improvements. Bad

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signs here already. Half the wiring is off-the-wall. Up stairs there is

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a serious mould problem. Oh, my God! This was like this when we came last

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time. The landlord was told to clean it off. Obviously, the stench isn't

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pleasant. That is what people can't... It's just - I wouldn't

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house my Westies in here. No. Am I over reacting? I don't think so. OK.

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How many people have we got now? Nine. How long have you been here

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now, how long have you lived here Three years. Three years. No heating

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at the moment. Yeah. You have no heating. No heating for three years.

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Three years? Yeah. Nine people live here paying ?1,500 a month, that is

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?18,000 a year to their landlord. Having failed its inspection, Adrian

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is considering a management order on the property. His team would manage

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it until all necessary repairs are done. With 44,000 families in

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England living in temporary accommodation and waiting list for

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social housing the demand for private rented properties will not

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go away any time soon. Tenants have a responsibility, clean up your

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homes. Having seen some of these properties, Adrian has most powers

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than most to deal with these landlords. The way I would do it,

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make them sleep in their own houses for a night. We were shocked

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watching that, as I'm sure lots of people in Britain would be. Sir John

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are you surprised that is going on? I grew up in grotty accommodation in

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Lambert as a boy, in the 1950s I'm familiar with bad properties. Not as

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bad as that. How did it can compare? Better than that. Very tiny. Five of

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us in two small rooms and tiny landing. We used to cook on the

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landing and the wash room was several floors lower. The belief

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that the problem has gone away is simply not true. Neither is it true

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that the problem is new. One of the first... One of the first rogue

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landlords was George Downing who built Downing Street. Downing Street

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was a slum. Was it? It was built on marshland outside fashionable

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Westminster. It was slum property at first. In very bad condition for a

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very long time. What has happened then to the family we saw in the

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film, especially the lady with the baby? Disgusting that. Awful. Being

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eaten alive by bed bugs. She is in that flat with that baby. The agent

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is working towards the essential repairs, that is what we have been

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told. The other house, three years without heating. Did you see the

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mould, imagine that in winter? Is So bad for your health? Horrific. I

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wouldn't house a dog in there. Horrible. The council are,ing with

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the agent to get those works done. Adrian said this happens quite often

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in Oxfordshire, what is the situation across Britain? The

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majority of private landlords are good. We are talking about a

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minority here. The notion that we are a land of homeowners is changing

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now. The if you go back to 19 91 when Sir John was Prime Minister,

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the private rented sector accounted for 9% of households in the UK.

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2012-2013 that had doubled, nine million people are renting. A third

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of them are families with kids, half are over 35. Big demand. Low stocks

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of social housing. A lot of people can't buy their own houses any more.

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There is high demand because prices are high, landlords can take

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advantage? Yeah. Perfect storm at the moment for tenants. There is low

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demand and - sorry, low supply and high demand. They haven't got

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bargaining power. Shelter say six out of ten renters complained last

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year, pest, gas leaks, a third of these properties had a category one

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safety hazard. A direct severe threat to health and safety of

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people living there. The demand is bound to grow. There are increasing

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numbers of small family units. Couples who divorced. Couples with

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no children. People living longer, but living on their own. There is an

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increasing demand, particularly for very small units. In the cities they

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are very expensive. Often they are not available. That offers the

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opportunity for the rogue landlords. The only way for them to get - There

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are powers to deal with them. I'm interested to know how many local

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authorities use them. What they do some of them is unacceptable. As we

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saw there. Thank you, Tony. Now, Davina, you're about to put us

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through the emotional wringer again. Like I did with you this afternoon.

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I know. Extraordinary. It is the run of -- return of Long Lost Family.

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She was Chrissened with your name. -- christened. Wow! That was really

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important to her. It's crazy. Father and grandfather. It's crazy.

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It's remarkable, powerful television Davina, without giving too much

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away. Obviously, we don't want to blow the story. Mitt It's quite

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something to watch this? It's really - I don't know... I suppose, it's an

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honour that people allow us to film what is an incredibly personal

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moment in their life. I suppose, sometimes it's through desperation

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because they are so desperate to find someone they are prepared to go

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on that journey with us. I hope on series four people trust us to tell

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their story in a way that is respectful. Because some of them are

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gut wrenchingly difficult, awkward. That story you are watching there.

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There is an incredible sort of tricky twist to it where the man has

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to front up to something that he did when he was younger. It's - it's

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amazing. As a viewer you feel remarkable privilege to be finding

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out as they do. You follow the story in real-time? I know. Without the

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bravery of our contributors we would be nothing. The Nicky and I are

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really, really lucky to be on it, really. As well as the French story

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that we saw the clip of there. There is a remarkable woman called Ann,

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she was in a tragic situation when she was younger. Give us background?

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Ann, like so many women, you know, they find themselves in difficult

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situations. We found this time and time again. There is so much shame

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and guilt, sort of, hanging on women's shoulders in particular from

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this era. Yes, that is on Monday night. You will see both of those

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stories on Monday night's show on at How has 9.00pm. It helped you to

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look at your family situation? Oh, it does make you go home and hug

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your kids extra hard. Sometimes when you hear what these women have been

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through trying to either keep their children or going home and not

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having any support. I mean, I have a very close knit family. I'm very

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lucky. My mum and dad are hugely supportive of all the messes I've

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got myself into and I've got myself into a lot!

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got myself into and I've got myself into a You know, they've always been

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there for me. When you hear of people left on their own. It does,

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it makes you feel very lucky and blessed. It makes you realise in

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redemption and forgiveness and that something that you've carried around

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with you for years and years, as your deepest, darkest, most filthy

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secret, actually when you speak of it in the cold light of day,

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suddenly, it doesn't sound so bad. Or you share it with someone. It's

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like... It's a relief. We all can relate to that on some level. That

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is why it doesn't matter if you haven't been through this story

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yourself or that particular example. We can relate to the people that

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share their stories with us, all of us can. I bet the team is inundated

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with people who want help for the next series. It's a fantastic

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service as well to reunite families isn't it? It's on Monday night, ITV

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at 9.00pm. well footed people. Time for our

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latest report. I am in Texel, the largest of the Friesian barrier

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islands off the coast of Holland. I have already used scuppered -- I

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have already discovered that an amazing two tonnes of flotsam and

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jetsam wash up here every day. And the beachcombers Alney Island love

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to hold what they find and put it in museums. Among the life belts and

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rope on display, there are items here with a more personal tale to

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tell. I am talking about messages in bottles. During the past 40 years,

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more than 200 messages have washed up on Texel, many of them from the

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UK. Like this letter, washed up in 2008. To the finder of this canister

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- these are the ashes of our dead. We thought he deserved one last

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trip. If you find him, please write and let us know where and when, then

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throw him back into continue his last big adventure. John was from

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Weymouth and had travelled the world as a Staff Sergeant. He even served

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Winston Churchill. When he passed away in 2007, his family sent him on

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his final journey, facing his ashes in a photo film canister like this

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one. They put the canister in a bottle, along with their message,

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and threw it off the Dover ferry. The local beach, who found John did

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as he was requested, and cast him back into the sea. He has not been

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heard of since, but who knows? A message can take as little as one

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week to get from the east coast of Britain to Texel, but the sender may

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have to wait a while for an answer. Hello, my name is Leisha, I am eight

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years old. I bet you are shocked to find this letter. Well, I wanted a

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pen pal. I do not mind if you are a boy or a girl. Where do you live?

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Have you heard of The Spice Girls? It was in 1998 that Leisha decided

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to send a message in a bottle to try to find a pen pal. When you are that

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age, you get upset when you do not get a reply. What she did not know

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was that her message had travelled more than 200 miles from her home in

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sheerness in Kent and washed up here in Texel. It was found by a boy

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called Joriam Jubbega. How exciting. Although sadly, he was not a fan of

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The Spice Girls. I was 11 years old when I found the letter. I saw this

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bottle on the ground and I saw there was a letter in it, so I took it out

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and I saw that it had been written by a little girl from England.

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Unfortunately, water had damaged the address on the letter, so Joriam

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could not reply. I always kept it in my bedroom as some kind of trophy.

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You might have thought that would be that, but 15 years later, social

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media gave Joriam his chance to try to track Leisha down. You do not

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know me and I do not know you, but several years ago... Just now I

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walked past the letter and I wondered, maybe I could find this

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girl. I just wondered if this letter could really have travelled that

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far. When I saw it, I could not believe it. It was the best thing

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that I was so excited just since then we have been messaging each

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other. Will you go to meet her, do you think? I do not know, we will

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see. Time will tell. It would be lovely to meet up one day, to get to

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know him a bit more. It is like a fairy tale story. How strange and

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how beautiful but a message just bobbing in the sea can bring

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together two and connected lives. So, next time you are wandering

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along the beach and you see a bottle, take a look inside. There

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just might be a message for you. It is like the best story ever! And

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here is Leisha, from the film. Where did you expect the bottle to end

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up? Probably about ten minutes up the coast, or back to where I threw

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it. I do not know. Now, your man did not believe you, many people did

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not, when you got this message from Joriam. So, we have got your letter,

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and you did say you would like to meet him at some point. Are you

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ready? Yes. Joriam, come on in! Nice to meet you. What is it like seeing

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each other in the flesh? It is weird, it is really strange. It is

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surreal, definitely. It is kind of like film, this, but how do you

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think this film might end? Already?! Do you see where we are

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going? I do. We will probably have a dog named Dave. It is perfect! While

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you get to know each other, we can go back to Matt. It is like speed

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dating with bottles! Arthur, you are here with yet more stuff. Let's

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start with this one. The most terrifying first date you could ever

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be on, on live TV! Good to see you again. Yes, well, messages in

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bottles... This is, according to the Guinness book of records, the bottle

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which survived longest in the sea with a message in it. Nearly 98

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years. It was thrown off a boat in 1914 as part of a scientific

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experiment and was picked up 98 years later, during which time it

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had managed to get about nine miles. It is a slow-moving bottle, although

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of course it may have been around the world several times. It was a

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letter relating to a scientific experiment? That is it, they were

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interested in currents at the bottom of the sea. This champagne bottle

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dates from 1944. There were nine soldiers going off to D-Day, and not

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unsurprisingly, they decided to have a big drink before they left and

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through this in the sea, saying, could it be returned up to Carlisle

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after the war? In fact, it was found a month later, and the nine soldiers

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all survived the landings, and all bar one survived the war. And this

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is in the museum in Carlisle Castle, in Cumbria. And there is one more?

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Yes, there was about which was boarded by pirates -- a boat -- and

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they did not know what to do, the people on board. Communication was

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cut off. But they threw a bottle with a message in it, this was only

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a few years ago, overboard, and it was found by a NATO boat nearby, and

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the message said it was safe to hoard the thing. So they did, and

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saved the lives of the people on board. -- to board. So, these

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messages can start to love affairs and save lives and do anything! And

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of course, Sting can always write something about them! There are many

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moments when I could have used a good message in a bottle. Very good!

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Actor Paul Eddington only spent two years as Prime Minister, but it was

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his most famous role. As his son reveals, there was much more to him

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than the bumbling character he played.

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My father was Paul Eddington, the actor who found worldwide fame in

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Yes Minister and Yes, Prime Minister.

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Humphrey, I have been thinking. Good. But it was playing Jerry

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Leadbetter in The Good Life which provided him with his first really

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big television break. It gave audiences of more than 20 million

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their first opportunity to see what he could do when he was being funny.

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I was just telephoning to find out whether I could have my car today.

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Oh, Tuesday. What do you mean, choose day...? My father was in his

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late 20s when I was born, in 1954. He had been an actor since he was

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17. Earlier on he had managed to find work, but there were some very

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hard patches indeed. Luck, I can explain. I had to have money. I

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certainly know there were hard times. There is the story of my

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father getting onto an underground train and chancing to meet the late

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Alan McCabe autumn. And Alan asked him how things work, and he said, I

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am at my wits end. Alan drew from his pocket a quite substantial sum

:25:42.:25:45.

of money, and my father said, I cannot possibly take it. And what

:25:46.:25:54.

Alan said was, in fact, you can. Apparently it was quite a while

:25:55.:25:57.

before that song was paid back. He was a very hands-on father. And on

:25:58.:26:08.

in Bull Sundays we were all brought here to this house just to play. And

:26:09.:26:16.

he was almost always very funny. What goes 99 punk? A centipede with

:26:17.:26:26.

a wooden leg, that was one of his. I am an actor myself, and when I told

:26:27.:26:29.

my father I was going to be won, he was aghast. He described himself as

:26:30.:26:36.

innately unsuited to being an actor because of the insecurity for which

:26:37.:26:43.

the profession is renowned. Recognition came late for him. And

:26:44.:26:50.

then came the role for which he will always be remembered, Jim Hacker,

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yes Minister. Bernard, which way am I supposed to be voting? No, it is

:26:55.:27:02.

the second reading... I do not want to know what it is about, I just

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want to go through the right door! Sir Humphrey knows everything. In

:27:08.:27:12.

fact, my father was the most politically aware person you could

:27:13.:27:19.

meet. Thank you, Minister. My father found it quite amusing that some

:27:20.:27:23.

people actually seemed to think that he was part of the British political

:27:24.:27:31.

establishment. Humphrey is not God, OK? Will you tell him, or shall I.

:27:32.:27:38.

My father discovered that he was definitely going to die of skin

:27:39.:27:41.

cancer while he was in Australia. He kept it quiet as long as he could,

:27:42.:27:46.

but of course, he was hounded by the media and eventually had to talk

:27:47.:27:49.

about it. He was incredibly stoic about it. He used to say, one is

:27:50.:27:57.

perfectly entitled to say, why me, as long as you bear in mind that you

:27:58.:28:02.

might just as well say, why not me know Paul Eddington has died at the

:28:03.:28:06.

age of 68 from a rare form of skin cancer. I was on stage here myself

:28:07.:28:11.

when he finally died and I was told about it when the curtain came down.

:28:12.:28:17.

He would not have had it any other way. The show must go on. But I was

:28:18.:28:30.

not there. When he died. The epitaph he chose for himself was - he did

:28:31.:28:39.

very little wrong. And nobody ever spoke truer word.

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Sir John, what do you feel like when you see the door to Number Ten and

:28:45.:28:54.

shots like that? It obviously brings back a lot of memories. In many

:28:55.:29:01.

ways, it seems rather like a different life. I am not completely

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cut off from politics, but I am out of politics, I am not involved in it

:29:06.:29:10.

on a day-to-day basis, but one remembers things. You cannot see

:29:11.:29:13.

that door without remembering walking through it, and you remember

:29:14.:29:17.

the good times and the bad times and what you found when you got through

:29:18.:29:23.

it. From number 10 Downing Street to Buckingham Palace you were there

:29:24.:29:27.

today, launching this brand-new initiative with Prince William and

:29:28.:29:30.

Prince Harry, so what can you is about it? Well, we had a wonderful

:29:31.:29:34.

day. The background is that we have set up a charity the Queen Elizabeth

:29:35.:29:42.

Diamond Jubilee Charity, to celebrate the Queen's60 years as

:29:43.:29:46.

head of the Commonwealth. We propose to spend money on ending avoidable

:29:47.:29:51.

blindness across the Commonwealth, and secondly, the scheme we were

:29:52.:29:57.

launching this afternoon, which was to find reward and honour,

:29:58.:30:02.

inspirational young people from all of the 54 countries in the

:30:03.:30:06.

Commonwealth over the next 50 years. And we launched that today with

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Prince William and Prince Harry, well, they launched it. And it was

:30:11.:30:17.

an astonishing afternoon. I come from the quill pen age. This

:30:18.:30:22.

afternoon, I visited Google hang-outs, Twitter mirrors, and so

:30:23.:30:30.

did the princes. They sat there and they were talking live to young

:30:31.:30:34.

people in Australia, South Africa, India and Jamaica, and it was an

:30:35.:30:39.

astonishing fact that huge numbers of people were being reached

:30:40.:30:43.

absolutely immediately. And then Malta but of that with people

:30:44.:30:51.

commenting afterwards. You are looking for 240 leaders. Will you

:30:52.:30:55.

join in on the tweeting front, Sir John? Are you on Twitter? I'm not. I

:30:56.:31:02.

had every opportunity. Sir John, best Twitter address EVER! I had

:31:03.:31:09.

every opportunity to express my views years ago, no, I won't. I will

:31:10.:31:14.

leave it to other people. We want to find these inspirational young

:31:15.:31:17.

people. For lots of reasons. It's fashionable these days. You can't

:31:18.:31:20.

pick up a newspaper or watch television without seeing some

:31:21.:31:24.

damning story about young people. I think they ought to meet some of the

:31:25.:31:29.

young people I have met. Some of the inspirational young men and women

:31:30.:31:33.

who were there today. Tell me, tell me about one? Two boys who lost both

:31:34.:31:40.

their parents. Both their parents in the tsunami in Sri Lanka a few years

:31:41.:31:43.

ago. They have set up a business to help orphans all around the world.

:31:44.:31:51.

There is a young lady who set up a charity to help people who have

:31:52.:31:54.

suffered from human trafficking. These are the sort of things they

:31:55.:32:01.

are doing. Another young man who has taken coffee mess, ground coffee

:32:02.:32:08.

thrown away and used and is turning it into biomass. That is three

:32:09.:32:13.

examples of 50 amongst young people who were there today. That was just

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the UK. There will be people like that right across the Commonwealth.

:32:20.:32:22.

We want to identify them and honour them. Encouraging whoever they are

:32:23.:32:26.

from whatever background they are from? Yes. You said, "in every

:32:27.:32:31.

single fear sphere of British influence, the upper echelons of

:32:32.:32:37.

power in 2013 are held overwhelmingly by the privately

:32:38.:32:42.

educated or the affluent middle-class. To me, from my

:32:43.:32:47.

background, I find that truly shocking? " I do. When you think how

:32:48.:32:52.

rich the Commonwealth countries are, including us, you see some of the

:32:53.:32:55.

Commonwealth countries that are very poor indeed. The scraps from our

:32:56.:32:59.

table are the largest on their table. You begin to realise how much

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we can help. Is that putting people off, from your view, from becoming

:33:06.:33:11.

laefrd leaders if you aren't from that privileged background? Most of

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the young people we spoke to didn't come from privileged backgrounds.

:33:17.:33:21.

They came from straight-forward backgrounds. Their drive led them to

:33:22.:33:25.

do something extraordinary. We need to open up the avenues so people can

:33:26.:33:29.

do that. Yes. Like yourself, Sir John. Sometimes people who have been

:33:30.:33:36.

helped want to help others. Through Comic Relief and Sport Relief, have

:33:37.:33:43.

helped others through that. We are lucky, in this country, we have so

:33:44.:33:49.

many real icons. I'm not talking about politics, I'm talking about

:33:50.:33:55.

icons in business who came from know where, I cons -- icons in sport who

:33:56.:34:04.

set a good example. It would be a great help to everybody if we

:34:05.:34:08.

focussed on the other side of If you life. Are interested you can find

:34:09.:34:13.

out more about the scheme on our website, [email protected]. Thank

:34:14.:34:16.

you very much, Sir John. We know that you are off now to another

:34:17.:34:19.

engagement. It has been lovely to have your company. Is My pleasure.

:34:20.:34:26.

My apologies for not staying to the end of the show. You will miss some

:34:27.:34:33.

nice toast. You You are. Believe me after the day I've had I would love

:34:34.:34:43.

that toast. It seems odd that the phrase "run like a girl" is still

:34:44.:34:47.

used as a form of insult. A new campaign is trying to change that,

:34:48.:34:53.

Lucy has been discovering. The worst insult I had is the assumption I

:34:54.:34:57.

cannot break up a heavy box because it might break a nail. Mine is,

:34:58.:35:03.

girls can't run. Women are not strong. On the 1st July the BBC's

:35:04.:35:08.

Mark Laurenson caused outrage when he said this about a Swiss player.

:35:09.:35:19.

What was that? His comment which the BBC apologised for, brought an old

:35:20.:35:22.

debate back into focus. Show me what it means to "run like a

:35:23.:35:38.

girl"? They were given the man to "run like a girl". It touched a

:35:39.:35:42.

strong nerve. It's got something right. It is talking to us on some

:35:43.:35:46.

level. I think there is a lot to be said about the language we use and

:35:47.:35:50.

the way we instinctively reject and diminish women and girls

:35:51.:35:54.

particularly. Is like a girl a good thing? I don't know what it really,

:35:55.:35:58.

if it's a bad thing or a good thing. It sounds like a bad thing. Sounds

:35:59.:36:02.

like you are trying to humiliate someone. How did such negative

:36:03.:36:08.

stereo typing become part of every day speech? When do young minds

:36:09.:36:14.

become affected by phrases such as "run like a girl"? It's Sportsday

:36:15.:36:20.

for this high school. We repeated the experiment giving these

:36:21.:36:27.

11-13-year-olds the simple invitation to - run like a girl. I

:36:28.:36:33.

ran in a comedy vibe. I don't know. It comes naturally really. Not all

:36:34.:36:38.

the girls and boys follow the stereotype. When you asked me to run

:36:39.:36:44.

like a girl, I ran normally, there is nothing really different about

:36:45.:36:48.

how girls and boys When you run. Asked me to run like a girl, I ran

:36:49.:36:52.

like how I normally do. That is who I am. It's the exact same as anybody

:36:53.:36:55.

else. I don't see the difference between running like a girl and

:36:56.:37:01.

running normally. It has a direct impact on the way that young people

:37:02.:37:06.

feel about themselves. If they are getting the sense they are being put

:37:07.:37:10.

into a particular box, then it means there is no wriggle room for them.

:37:11.:37:14.

People are saying - this is how I see you. You must see yourself like

:37:15.:37:20.

that. At what age does this particularly begin to affect people?

:37:21.:37:25.

We know that development really has a rush of energy during ed

:37:26.:37:32.

adolescence. If you have negativester Yeo typed phrases

:37:33.:37:35.

coming at you, that is the time when I would be very worried. Sometimes I

:37:36.:37:39.

get a negative reaction because I play football. Some people think

:37:40.:37:44.

it's a sport for boys. They try to psych me out before saying, you are

:37:45.:37:48.

not strong enough, you are not fast enough because you are a girl,

:37:49.:37:52.

things like that. How do you react? I get angry a bit. I try and beat

:37:53.:38:00.

them more. Will this generation of girls finally be the ones to cast

:38:01.:38:04.

off the negative gender stereo typing and breakthrough? Go on

:38:05.:38:12.

girls! Well, my four-year-old girl is developing her running technique

:38:13.:38:17.

at the moment. It's fantastic. When is the Sportsday? Friday. When they

:38:18.:38:22.

do that with their arms. Committed. Committed. Speaking of everything

:38:23.:38:27.

athletic. You are back in the saddle, not beyond breaking point

:38:28.:38:33.

this time. No! For fun! Yes. And health! This summer, Sky are doing

:38:34.:38:40.

these amazing bicycle rides around the UK. Bicycle rides can sometimes

:38:41.:38:45.

be offputing you think of blokes in lycra and they will be cutting up

:38:46.:38:49.

and a peloton. Not with this. It's family fun. It's for everyone. It's

:38:50.:38:54.

free. There is lots of big cities around the UK you can go to

:38:55.:39:01.

Skyride.com. What is it raising money for? Not for anything. To get

:39:02.:39:06.

Britain on their bikes. It's free! With British cycling it's a no

:39:07.:39:09.

brainer. Really good fun. Easy rides. I'm doing one in Liverpool in

:39:10.:39:14.

September. Le it will be my first official ride since the challenge.

:39:15.:39:20.

I'm so - I feel quite emotional about it. I'm looking forward to. I

:39:21.:39:24.

will be there. They cleared the streets. If you are nervous about

:39:25.:39:29.

riding with cars and traffic, it's safe, it's fun. It's brilliant. They

:39:30.:39:35.

have a million more people on bikes, British cycling and Sky through

:39:36.:39:39.

doing this. It's a brilliant, brilliant thing. No brainer. Get on

:39:40.:39:43.

your bike. If you want to get involved, in sky ride, you can find

:39:44.:39:48.

more details on our website, [email protected]. Stand by

:39:49.:39:50.

everybody, in a moment we have got this. The world's longest toaster!

:39:51.:39:58.

Stop it! Look at that. Look at that - that's AMAZING! I need that in my

:39:59.:40:06.

life. Epic music for an epic toaster. Get out of town! You will

:40:07.:40:12.

be out there shortly? Good. A few weeks ago we asked you to come up

:40:13.:40:16.

with the ultimate home baked bread recipe. As always, you rose to the

:40:17.:40:25.

challenge. Who was top seed? Here is Jay to reveal the results. Sliced

:40:26.:40:30.

bread used to be the best thing in the world. With sales dropping,

:40:31.:40:36.

we've seen the resurgence of the home-baked loaf. It's fair to say

:40:37.:40:42.

our love affair with baking is back. While we be having a go, whose bread

:40:43.:40:48.

is best? We asked you to send us your recipes for the perfect

:40:49.:40:51.

homemade loaf. Who made it through to the final three? Alan from mad

:40:52.:40:57.

lock in Derbyshire with his six seed bread. Fee Owen ya from York with

:40:58.:41:06.

her ploughman's lunch loaf. And the country loaf. All of our contestants

:41:07.:41:11.

will have to impress me and my fellow judge, chef Angela Grey. What

:41:12.:41:14.

are we looking for from our breads today? A good crust, fabulous crumb,

:41:15.:41:22.

a good rice in the -- rise in the bread as well. Is there anything

:41:23.:41:31.

that makes it different to other cookoffs we have done. It is hot

:41:32.:41:37.

today. That might move the pace quicker for them. First into the

:41:38.:41:40.

kitchen is Chris. He started his bread last night by making a starter

:41:41.:41:45.

of flour, water and yeast that sends the night in the fridge fermenting.

:41:46.:41:50.

It's the way of making the process easier when you come to doing the

:41:51.:41:57.

loaf. The mixture has fermented. The yeast fermented with the flour and

:41:58.:42:00.

the water. It rises more quickly. What is the purpose of this kind of

:42:01.:42:06.

working of the dough? To get the air in. You are stretching it to get the

:42:07.:42:12.

gluten developed. Trapping the air in every time you fold it over. It

:42:13.:42:18.

improves the flavour. Next up is Fiona, her loaf has inbuilt layers

:42:19.:42:25.

of Parma ham, pesto and red onion chutney. A lot to put in a loaf of

:42:26.:42:30.

bread? It is a big ask. It's fun, you know. Are you nervous about the

:42:31.:42:34.

conditions today being different to those when you first tried making

:42:35.:42:38.

it? You have to treat it like a baby. Keep your eye on it and bear

:42:39.:42:42.

in mind how it will behave. Finally, Alan, who adds pumpkin, sunflower,

:42:43.:42:56.

to his mixture then he has a cup of tea. Where does the baking going?

:42:57.:43:06.

Ing go on? In the bread maker. Do you think the quality of the bread

:43:07.:43:10.

from a bread machine stands up to that made by hand? Yeah, I think it

:43:11.:43:16.

does. The changes that I've made to the ingredients that were originally

:43:17.:43:20.

inspired by a six-seeded loaf just make the difference. Chris's loaf is

:43:21.:43:26.

left to prove, reshape, left to prove, reshaped, cut a bit and

:43:27.:43:30.

popped into the often for 30 minutes. After half an hour baking,

:43:31.:43:35.

Fiona's baby is topped with more extras. After three hours of doing

:43:36.:43:39.

nothing, Alan takes his loaf out of the bread maker. All three now face

:43:40.:43:53.

judgment. First it's Alan's six-seed bread maker loaf. By cutting it, it

:43:54.:43:57.

feels spongy at the top here. I love the flavour with all the seeds in

:43:58.:44:03.

it. He has good flavour. Next up it's Fiona's layered loaf? Novelty

:44:04.:44:08.

bread. It would be lovely to share with people. A lot going for it. It

:44:09.:44:13.

is missing a nice crust. I think the bread itself doesn't quite match the

:44:14.:44:19.

idea. Lastly, it's Chris's classic country loaf. There is a loose crumb

:44:20.:44:25.

to it. The way it should be and springy. Let us have a taste. There

:44:26.:44:30.

is a lot of craft that went into that loaf. It's results time. Thank

:44:31.:44:38.

you for a brilliant day's baking. They were terrific loaves today.

:44:39.:44:41.

There has to be a winner. The winner of the one show Bread Cook-off is...

:44:42.:44:48.

Alan. Texture and appearance were important. In the end it came down

:44:49.:44:54.

to which tasted best. We both agreed Alan's crunchy six-seeded bread,

:44:55.:44:59.

made in his bread maker, really did provide the nicest slice.

:45:00.:45:03.

APPLAUSE Huge congratulations to Alan. I

:45:04.:45:06.

can't believe a bread machine won, can you? No. I have spent five hours

:45:07.:45:15.

watching two people make artisan bread, bosh, bosh, press and I still

:45:16.:45:18.

won! I tell you what. FANFARE. You have to hang it up on

:45:19.:45:30.

the wall. Something nice to keep. Congratulations again.

:45:31.:45:42.

bread, and now, we are going to move onto toast. We have the biggest we

:45:43.:45:54.

can supply the whole of the BBC. 34 slices. Ready, steady... I just want

:45:55.:46:05.

to get the butter on. If it gets too cold, it is not going to taste good.

:46:06.:46:10.

And raisins, I have got the raisins! It is all about the butter,

:46:11.:46:20.

that is the important thing. It is all about the butter. That is the

:46:21.:46:26.

Hovis. You asked me to find really good bread for toast. Davina has

:46:27.:46:33.

gone for this one, which is a St John bakery raisin bread. When you

:46:34.:46:42.

toast raisins, it is a lovely thing. Is it a bit like a teacake? It is

:46:43.:46:50.

quite sour, but the raisins give it the sweetness. I cannot stand really

:46:51.:46:56.

sweet bread. It is a serious loaf of bread. You know the price of a loaf

:46:57.:47:03.

of bread, well done, Matt, you are so real! Not all of these loaves of

:47:04.:47:13.

bread are that expensive. This one is known as a Seed Sensation. I know

:47:14.:47:21.

a lot of artisan bread makers will be furious with me, because it is

:47:22.:47:26.

made using the Chorleywood system. I am going to like this one, it is a

:47:27.:47:33.

posh one. This is sourdough, it is a piece of history. And this costs ?9

:47:34.:47:42.

per loaf. That is expensive! But can I say, this ways to kilos. That is

:47:43.:47:51.

going to last you... Can I just say something? It is amazing. My

:47:52.:47:57.

favourite so far. If you think, two kilos, so actually it is about ?2 30

:47:58.:48:03.

per pound, so it is not all that expensive. What's more, it lasts for

:48:04.:48:13.

two weeks. And also, the flavour changes, it grows and develops and

:48:14.:48:19.

becomes really interesting. ?9, but it is the winner. Now, in a moment

:48:20.:48:28.

we will be speaking to James Dean Bradfield and Nicky Wire from the

:48:29.:48:35.

Manic Street Preachers. But first, Carrie went to find out why they

:48:36.:48:39.

chose a title longer than this toaster for their first number one

:48:40.:48:43.

single. Back in the 1930s, more than 100

:48:44.:48:47.

Welsh miners put their lives on the line to fight against fascists in

:48:48.:48:52.

the Spanish civil war. 60 years later, it inspired an unlikely

:48:53.:48:56.

number one hit for a band who had never forgotten their Welsh roots.

:48:57.:48:59.

The manically preachers were formed from a bunch of right minded,

:49:00.:49:03.

politically conscious school friends who grew up here in Blackwood, a

:49:04.:49:08.

small mining town, 18 miles from Cardiff. It was the history of his

:49:09.:49:12.

mining community which led the Manics to write one of their biggest

:49:13.:49:16.

hits - If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next.

:49:17.:49:23.

# And if you tolerate this, then your children will be next... #

:49:24.:49:31.

It was really edgy, with the miners strike, there was great bitterness

:49:32.:49:37.

and rancour, but there was also a kind of intellectual stimulation.

:49:38.:49:41.

The tightly knit mining community had a tradition of standing up for

:49:42.:49:45.

its beliefs, not least in joining the fight against fascism in the

:49:46.:49:50.

1930s. The song takes its title from a Republican poster from the time of

:49:51.:49:55.

the Spanish civil war. In your town, growing up, they would have been

:49:56.:50:00.

aware of the miners doing this? Yes, up and down the valley ease, there

:50:01.:50:05.

are monuments and stuff. I just thought this amazing thing of going

:50:06.:50:08.

to another country to fight for a cause, without any compulsion to go,

:50:09.:50:17.

other than believing in something. I compared it to my lame idea of

:50:18.:50:20.

myself, and I thought, I would never do that. Was it may be shame of

:50:21.:50:35.

being so young and so vain? Acres that was the idea, that much that I

:50:36.:50:41.

liked thinking about the Spanish civil war, and reading about it, I

:50:42.:50:45.

doubt that I would have hopped on a boat and taken up arms. So, do you

:50:46.:50:53.

ever sit in a room and write? Together? Oh, God forbid. Why do you

:50:54.:51:02.

say that? We have just been around each other since we were five years

:51:03.:51:09.

old. Same school! Enough has been revealed between all of us. To have

:51:10.:51:13.

to stare each other in the eyes again, and say, you know, I wrote

:51:14.:51:19.

this... If you look at the lyrics, there is a name and colic pause in

:51:20.:51:31.

the song. -- melancholic. And it just came really quickly. And they

:51:32.:51:36.

tend not to have many chords in them. A minor, he minor, F and C,

:51:37.:51:50.

and that is it. So, you had no idea that this would

:51:51.:51:56.

travel the So, you had no idea that way it

:51:57.:52:04.

did? No, because it was deeply politically charged, and we just

:52:05.:52:09.

thought... But then our manager just straightaways said, that is going to

:52:10.:52:17.

be big. It would be their first number one, topping the charts for

:52:18.:52:24.

an incredible 11 weeks. It is in the Guinness Book of World Records,

:52:25.:52:30.

isn't it? Yes, we were a nightmare for MTV presenters at the time. It

:52:31.:52:36.

is not going to fly in America, you know! That it is still playing, 16

:52:37.:52:45.

years later. When we play the song now, there is a sense of relief.

:52:46.:52:53.

There is a small on clay at the bar, and it is like, they love this one,

:52:54.:53:00.

that is enough for me! Just about everybody connects with it.

:53:01.:53:08.

That song will be in everybody's head all night. And now you have

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given the chords to all the guitarists in Britain. It is only

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five chords. I am partly Welsh, but we are not going to go there. You

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have experimented with so many different sounds over the years, it

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has been, what, 16 years now? Longer than that. We wrote our first song

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when we were in school, at 16. How would you describe the tracks on

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your new album, Futurology? Post-punk, disco rock. Something for

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all of us! A walking tag line. You went to Germany to record it, why

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did you do that? We have got a lot of German reference points in the

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songs. Just stuff from when we were young. It seemed natural. A lot of

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German music from the 1970s was influencing our songs. There is a

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guy from Cardiff who we worked with on the third album, he lives and

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works over there as well. So it was really good. It was in Berlin. One

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of the songs on the album is Walk Me To The Bridge...

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# Walk me to the bridge. # Walk me to the bridge #

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Is it right that this song came as quite a difficult time for you?

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I have a lot of difficult times as a rule, since I turned 40! It was just

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a moment of exhaustion, really. You look back and you are kind of

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weighed down a bit, because I am the band's biggest fan. I was looking

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back and thinking, can we be that good again? I was driving over the

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bridge to in Sweden and Denmark, and as usual, I had a note book with

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me. The lyrics are started, and I was thinking, I cannot do this any

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more. But we get to Copenhagen, and everything is fine again. Thank you

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very much. You are going to perform for us now, one of off you go. --

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one of your classic tracks. Off you go. Thank you very much, Davina, as

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well. I always feel very sad when it is over with you guys. An hour and a

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half, it would not be enough, ever. Do come and see us again. And next

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time, we will be joined by Matt's dad, John Craven. But for now, we

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leave you with the Manic Street Preachers, with one of their earlier

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hits, You Stole The Sun From My Heart.

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# Drinking. # I love you all the same

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# You don't have to believe me # I love you all the same

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# But you stole the sun from my heart

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# # You stole the sun from my heart

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# You stole the sun from # You have broken through my armour

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# And I don't have an answer # I love you all the same.

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# I paint the things I want to see # But it don't come easy

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# I love you all the same. # But you stole the sun from my

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heart. # You stole the sun from my heart.

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# Used older son -- you stole the sun from my heart.

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