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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Anita Rani.

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With us tonight are a couple who we reckon have been on TV together for

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a whopping 7000 hours. Give or take a few. And they are about to add

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another 30 minutes. It is Judy and Richard! That sounds like it should

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always have been that way. I agree. It is great to hear. We have also

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heard that the entire Ledley family have got into trouble recently?

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daughter was Sleeping Beauty in the Windsor production. And I got

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carried away. We went down to watch her, and there is the bit when she

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picks her finger. Everyone in the audience knows she is about to be

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tricked into pricking her finger. I stood up, maybe a little the worse

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for wear for drink, and shouted don't do it, it is a trick! And she

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heard me and burst out laughing. The scene came to a halt. Now it

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has come into the Madeley jargon. We will say if something is not

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worth doing, don't do it, it is a trick. We all went on Boxing Day.

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The whole family went. There were Disney lights and swords and

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shouting. Someone said to the musical maestro, can you shut those

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people up? But that is what you do in a panto. The EU can make as much

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noise as you want here. We will. The panto season may be coming to

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an end, but another season has been making the headlines.

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Spring has sprung in January. According to the Woodland Trust,

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there are flowers in bloom weeks ahead of schedule in parts of the

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UK. So please send in your photos of your blooming daffodils. We will

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try and find the most northerly daffodil during the programme.

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Now, they say truth is stranger than fiction, and over the next few

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weeks, Gyles Brandreth is setting out to prove it by solving some of

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Britain's strangest mysteries. First up is the story of a

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politician who had a double life in more ways than one.

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John Thomson Stonehouse - economics graduate, business entrepreneur and

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family man. Perfect material for politics. When Labour won the 1964

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general election, Stonehouse rose rapidly to power as the minister

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for technology. There was even talk of him one day succeeding Harold

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Wilson as Prime Minister. So not just his family, but the nation,

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was in shock when he went on holiday to Miami, left a pile of

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clothes on the beach and vanished. His wife had no doubts. I am

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convinced that it was a drowning incident. The world declared him

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dead. Barely a month later, police in Australia received a call about

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an Englishman seen signing cheques under two different names in a

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Melbourne bank. When they visited his hotel, the man gave the name

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Clive Mildoon and produced a British passport to prove it. That

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might have been the end of the story. But one keen-eyed officer

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spotted a book of matches bearing the name of the same Miami hotel

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where John Stonehouse had stayed before his apparent suicide. It Mr

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Stonehouse had faked his death. He had been rumbled, and had become

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one of the few people in history to be caught faking their own death,

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leaving his wife and three children believing that he was dead. But why

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did a high-flying and he want to deceive all who knew him? This was

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his excuse days after being discovered in Australia. I have

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been sick. My psychiatrist confirms that. When in public life, one is

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subject to enormous pressures. was buried darker secret lying

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behind his faked suicide? In 1969, five years earlier, remarkable

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allegations were made that Stonehouse was a spy for the

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Czechoslovakian secret service. He himself adamantly denied espionage.

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I have gone to Czechoslovakia and had close connections there, but

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the idea that I was a spy is ludicrous. During the Cold War,

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such allegations were rife. At the time, MI5 had no hard evidence, but

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the damage to his reputation had been done. So could it be that the

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burden of concealing such a secret was the real reason that he was

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desperate to disappear? Cambridge historian Professor Christopher

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Andrew is one of the few who have seen MI5's file on Stonehouse. What

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kind of man was he? John Stonehouse was a fraud. But for a long time,

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he was successful. The idea that he might have been a spy working for

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Czechoslovakia in 1969, a detective came along and said, I fear and 90%

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certain that he is a spy. So Stonehouse was called in, and he

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put up a good defence. MI5 decided he was innocent. And what he?

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he had been a spy. The decisive evidence came in the mid- 1990s,

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when the Czechoslovakian intelligence service, having become

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an ally, made public some of Stonehouse's file. They were pretty

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disappointed with the quality of the intelligence he passed on. So

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to the long list of people who Stonehouse defrauded, it is

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possible that we can add the name of Czechoslovakian intelligence.

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the top of that list was his family. This was their first, rather candid

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Although never convicted for espionage, he did serve time for

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fraud, forgery and theft. Stonehouse serve just three years

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of his seven-year sentence following a string of heart attacks.

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On his release from prison, he lived in relative obscurity until

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14th April 1988, when the man who once faked his own death died for

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real. It is the stuff of movies. Our

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super sleuth Gyles is here. We do not know all there is to know yet?

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And we will not necessarily know the whole truth for 100 years,

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because there is a rule about government papers. Most of them are

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released after 30 years. But in the case of national security, that is

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extended to 100 years. National security, things to do with the

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Queen, are not revealed for 100 years. For example, we recently had

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some state papers published which did not include anything about the

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Falklands. There was material in there about the Falklands, still

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deemed to be security sensitive. We did learn things about Liverpool.

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Margaret Thatcher, then prime minister, was advised to let

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Liverpool sink into decline. Jeffrey Howe denies it. There was

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controversy about it at the time. They did not take that advice, but

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it is fascinating. Other things were revealed as well? There was a

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big diplomatic row in 1981. It involved this country, the US,

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Lebanon, Saudi Arabia. It was to do with a Mecca Bingo Hall in Glasgow.

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The Muslim countries objected. They felt it was an insult to the Muslim

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faith, because Mecca is their holy city. And they did not want this

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Mecca Bingo Hall being called after matter. But Glasgow won. Other news

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about Margaret Thatcher? It turns out that The Iron Lady was the

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ironing lady. There was a government paper saying, we have

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spent this much on refurbishing your apartment at Downing Street,

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including a certain amount on an ironing board. She put in the

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margin, I will pay for my own ironing board. We do not need this.

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You are spending too much. So she was a good housekeeper in private

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as well as in public. I interviewed her a couple of times. The last

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time was in 1994. It was a fairly tedious interview, because she had

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done so many of them. We were not getting very far, so I threw her a

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curve ball. I said, do you remember the time he became a grandparent?

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Used it to the cameras, we are a grandmother. It sounded like Queen

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Victoria. The press said, she thinks she is the Queen. She gave

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me a funny look and then gave me a fantastic explanation. She said,

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that basically, her husband hated the limelight. He never went near

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the cameras. On the day that their grandchild was born, she prevailed

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on him for 20 minutes to come out with her onto the pavement, because

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it was a joint moment. But he would not, so she came out determined to

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make it a joint moment, and found herself saying, to her horror, we

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are a grandmother. I believed her. It is a charming story.

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Now, our consumer man Dom Littlewood has come across some

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dodgy companies in his time, but one that sells you a useless will

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and then disappears has to be up there. Dom explains how a couple

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from Nottinghamshire ended up with wills that literally are not worth

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the paper they are written on. If you live in England, Northern

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Ireland or Wales, and you fancy setting up a business, you have had

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no training or qualifications and no industry recognised certificates,

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I have just the job for you. Will- writing. You see, there is nothing

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stopping me, you or anybody making money out of writing wills, because

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it is an almost totally unregulated industry. But some roads have been

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jumping on the bandwagon. Who would like they are well written? You,

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would you like your well written? One thing you cannot complain about

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when choosing how to do your will is lack of choice. Some choose the

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more traditional method and go to a lawyer. Others get these off the

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shelf do-it-yourself kits for between �10 and �20. Others use

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professional will writers. But unlike lawyers, both the DIY kits

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and professional will writers are not regulated, so if there is a

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problem, there is no safety net. Patricia and Jim Hodges were caught

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cold by a will-writing company. Impressed by the sales patter of

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what they thought was a trustworthy company, they handed over a large

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sum of money, only to be left with wills that were totally useless.

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am not one for accepting people coming to the house from telephone

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calls. He rang several times, and each time I said no, but I

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eventually agreed to have an appointment. It seemed good. He was

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very informative. Two hours later, we paid them a cheque for �1,830.

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We looked at each other and thought it was a bit strange that they were

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asking for the money there and then. But we gave them a cheque, and it

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was cashed five days later. couple noticed that there were

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mistakes in the Wills, and they even named the wrong sun as

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executor. The wills were not legally binding. They tried to get

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in touch with the company, but they stopped answering their phones.

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this time, Hu had gone by, -- a year had gone by and we went to

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find them, only to find that the company was no longer there.

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their story reflects a bigger problem. If a solicitor writes a

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will you are not happy with, he or she is automatically regulated and

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you can ask the Legal Ombudsman to investigate. But if you use a will

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writer, there is no one to turn to. We are not just talking about

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problems with the will writers, there are bad lawyers out there?

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There are bad lawyers, bad will writers and people who just make

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mistakes. If something goes wrong with a will you have had written by

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a solicitor, you have the right to come to somebody like us. But that

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is not the case for Will writers. Even the industry itself is calling

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for safeguards to stamp out the bad practice of the minority. Brian

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McMillan is the boss of the Society of Will writers. He has gone

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through rigorous training, but despairs that other independent

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will writers are not qualified. He confirms that Patricia and Jim's

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wheels are a mess. You went over a year with documents that are

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worthless. None of them have been completed or executed properly. And

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the information was either missing, incomplete or non-existent. So what

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can you do to protect yourself? Firstly, ask your will writer if

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they are qualified. If you use a solicitor, make sure they are

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competent in will-writing. Make sure whoever you use has

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professional indemnity insurance. Then if there is a mistake, your

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beneficiaries might be compensated. Patricia will get no compensation.

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I did not think I was a vulnerable person. I thought I was quite

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astute. But we made a mistake. They obviously missold us, and cost us a

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The makers of the DIY kit in the film wanted to point out that they

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really do try to give the best advice, but if you cannot

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understand it, take it back for a refund.

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Richard was on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. You weren't with him.

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He got one answer wrong, book- related. If you had been with him

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would you have got it right? Hand on heart, no. Ways quite cross with

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Chris Tarrant, not he compiles the questions. It was, do you happen to

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know from the statistics from public transport lost property

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offices over the last year which was the most commonly handed in

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object? I did think it might be books I would have gone forum brel

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las. Thank you, darling. The Book Club is launched once more. Eight

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books and you've chosen them all. How many books did you have to go

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to? We get sent between 20 and 30, from the long list compiled by our

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partners. We have to pick eight. It can be a little bit like homework

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but because they are such good reads... We had fantastic news

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today that one of our authors, the first one in our launch for spring,

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has just gone straight to number one. Shot to number one, within

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days of the launch we were thrilled to bits. It is called Before I Go

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To Sleep. It is by a man, SJ Watson. Tall way through I read the book I

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assumed it was a woman, because the way he for trace his main character,

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who is a woman who has lost her memory is so brilliant. But no,

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it's a man and he's done a brilliant job. It is at number one.

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It is great. It is so great to get debut authors like that. When you

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are at home, is it the same room with slippers on? I to be really

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quiet, whereas Richard likes to have the radio on. I can read in a

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cafe. Twittering. I read standing up a lot, which is weird, in the

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kitchen. I can imagine you reading and being on Twitter. Judy, you

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seem to be OK not being in the limelight, but Richard is on radio.

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100,000 people following on Twitter. Are you a little bit worried that

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you are not there to rein him in? Good God, no. I can't criticise

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Twitter, because he loves it. think it's wonderful. And it does

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provide us with a lot of stimulating conversations at home.

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She's a full-time writer now. I'm hopping about, freelanceing, and

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writing, but she is a full-time writer with a two-book deal. Which

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we will get to in a little while. Don't worry. I guess you hust have

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-- must have had conversations about the two cars... Yes,

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Hampstead garden suburb, it is like being in Beirut, twice in the last

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month two separate drivers reversed into my. One was a people carrier.

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They are not apologetic. Once might be a coincidence but twice... We

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have made you something. What do you think about that? A lot of

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people would agree with that sentiment. I think shoe be allowed

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out with that. You may well be more of a target! Who knows? Some of our

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most touching One Show films come from famous names taking us to

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their childhood homes. Fay Weldon visits the streets where her family

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lived after the Second World War. This is my street where I used to

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live, in the hard, colt winter of 1946- 47 -- cold winter. So this

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street to me just seemed terribly exciting. It was where the world

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was beginning again. In spite of the cold and the grey and the no

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paint and the no food, it was just enormously exciting. That's what I

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remember most. # When the lights go on again... #

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We were alive. Everybody around you was grateful to be alive after the

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war. We had five or six years of bombs falling down on you and

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people being killed and families disrupted. This is the house. I'm

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about to go in and revisit the past. Goodness me. Strange to be back.

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Whatever, who would have thought that all these years later one

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would come back this these circumstances? It is all rather, if

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my friends could see me now, what would they think? Well, goodness me.

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It wasn't like this. It was bigger for one thing. It was one big room,

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two windows, same view from the window. And my mother was Margaret,

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my sister was Jane. She was my big sister. My parents were divorced.

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My father was a doctor, living in New Zealand. But I do remember

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leaving New Zealand and waving goodbye to him and seeing this

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figure as the boat went out, and seeing him get smaller and smaller

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and knowing you will never see him again. And I didn't.

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But anyway, there with this great adventure in front of us, so we had

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the great adventure. It was bitterly cold winter. It went on

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longer. It went on for about three months. No coal, no fuel, hardly

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any food. When the power went off, we just went to bed and stayed in

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bed until the power came on. There was nothing else to do, was so cold.

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No television or anything like that, remember. No mobile phones. It was

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just you and the world outside and how you would manage in it. There

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had been a war. People were lucky to be live. Lots of people had died.

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One didn't voice one's anger. You didn't say to your mother, "You

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should never have brought us here." That wouldn't occur to you to

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behave like, that because the world was too fragile. My mother managed.

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She became a housekeeper for a time and cleaned for other people. I did

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sometimes wonder quite why one's friends lived in these quite

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comfortable houses and we were living in one room in the cold.

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This tiny little kitchen. It is bliss isn't it? It has cupboards.

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Everything is the same height. Not like what we had - a table in the

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corner of the radio. Cooking smells, with rationing you were lucky to

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have anything to cook! Everybody was starting again, starting afresh.

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There was very little to cling on to from the past. So, you just

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lived in the present. A very fine present it was.

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And we are delighted to say that we've got Fay with us in the studio.

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Fay, that was such a moving film. It's the first time you've seen it.

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How did it make you feel watching that? Well, I think I was rather

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impressed. You should be. I thought I dealt with my words rather well

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and managed to tell a story. That's an accomplishment. You told that

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story with the most beautiful turn of phrase. When did you start to

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realise that you had that art of telling a story and you went into

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writing books? I think probably when I was really quite small. I

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could just use words. I could use language. I didn't have to do much

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work at school. I could just manage to pull the wool over everybody's

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eyes. It seemed as if I knew anything. I knew very little but

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always manage today seem as if I knew a lot. You've written 30 books

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over a 40-year career and your new book, Kehua, is a ghost story?

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other side, if you might call it that, keeps surfacing in all of

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them, I find. If you are a writer it is quite hard to believe in the

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here and now. One prefers to live in a mildy fictional universe.

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Judy, is it a story you are writing? Don't stand a chance next

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to Fay! Mine's a ghost story set in Cornwall, where we have a house and

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which we love very much. It is a story of a woman who is haunted by

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her best friend, who has just died, in seemingly perfectly normal,

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unsuspicious circumstances. But gradually she becomes aware the

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heroine of the book, Kathy, that something very bad has gone on and

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it affects her friend and her family. It is her trying to

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convince people that what, including her own husband who

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doesn't believe her, that she is being haunted by this woman with a

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story to fell. I love a good ghost story. Is it finished? Not quite. I

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have to say to my publishers, don't worry, I am working on it. I've got

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a deadline at the end of this month and I'm sincerely hoping I will

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have finished it. Did you find writing easy and disciplined now,

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Fay? No, it is really hard work die too have a deadline at the end of

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this month. Oh, God! I'm slighting wondering what I'm doing here.

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Didn't I say exactly the same thing? You feel as if you should be

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at home. It is the guilt. A lifetime of guilt. And Richard

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you've only got five chanters of your book down? Six. She will be

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finished on time. All writers in ply experience have no faith in

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what they've written. She gave me her to read and I said, "This is

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great" and she said, "No it's not." It's a great ghost story.

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hopefully she will beat new I will be happy for her to come first.

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That's good to hear. At the start of the show we asked

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for pictures of your early- flowering daffodils. Christine

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Walkden has been popping up around the country to see the signs of

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spring for herself. The British winter. A rather

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depressing mixture of snow, ice and general chaos. For the green

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fingered amongst us it is the time of year we would most like to fast

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forward. For this winter for most of us things have been different.

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December's temperature almost six degrees warmer than the previous

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year, our gardens and plants don't know whether they are coming or

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going. Liz is President of a horticultural society and this is

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her neighbour's garden. Liz, early January and here we are looking at

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glorious daffodils. Is this usual for this part of the world? I think

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it is probably about three weeks early. You are going to have this

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glorious display but they are not going to last long. I would give a

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good application of general fertiliser so when they die down

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they are taking nutrients in and they bulk up against next year. Is

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there anything else in the garden flowering early? Rhododendrons.

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spring has well and truly sprung? think so. The mild weather hasn't

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just caused flowers to bloom early. Barry Newman is chairman of the

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National Vegetable Society and his rhubarb are behaving very oddly

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indeed. Normally you could expect to see a crown of rhubarb is a few

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undulations over it where the leaves are holding, ready to burst

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through. It is amazing to see it so red at this time of year. Are you

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hearing this from your members from around the country? Yes, everybody

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is ahead of the game at the moment. What are the downsides? These

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milder winter are encouraging pests and diseases. We are not getting

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that natural cull, particularly with aphids, a major problem with

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cabbage and Brussels sprouts. this garden in Wisley spring has

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arrived early for the experts too. This year the plants think it is

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spring and they are flowering early. Is there there a knock-on effect

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because this is happen sog soon? Plant that -- Happening so soon?

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There might be. The whole eco- system depends on the plants

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flowering at the right time. For me, this is every gardener's dream. I

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wouldn't expect to see such lovely colour in January. It is obvious

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that spring has started early. Let's now hope there isn't a cold

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snap just around the corner. It is time for flowering daff dils. A

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quick whip around the country. Lytham St Annes. This one is

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Glasgow! From Katie. This is North London. From Northern Ireland.

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Sneer Giant's Causeway. But the winner is here. Ellen in

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