11/01/2018 The One Show

Hello and welcome to

The One Show with Matt Baker.

And Michelle Ackerley.

Now if I were to compare tonight's

guest to a kind of food I'd say

a pineapple would be pretty close.

Surprisingly sweet on the inside but

cased in a rather spikey exterior.

It's Gordon Ramsay!s

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With a new hairdo that is very

appropriate.

Talking of pineapples,

you've been very vocal

about your hatred for them on pizza,

especially when your fans send

you photographs of their Hawaiian

feasts I believe?

Who puts pineapple on a pizza?

I

like a bit of pineapple on a pizza

with some ham.

Obviously the big news today

is the plan to dramatically cut back

on our use of plastic products.

What's your take on that?

Really important move. 25 years, I

think it should be fast tracked. I

swim a lot in the ocean and we spend

a lot of time in the ocean at

Christmas and even with a wet suit

on, plastic bottles, it is a shame.

Let's see if we can fast-track it.

It is packaging on certain foods,

this coming out from the

supermarkets. Plastic coconuts.

I

know you want to feel a product,

make sure it is tangible, and why,

it isn't breathing properly. Crazy.

We want to hear from viewers at home

to tell us what you're doing to cut

back on plastic and if you have any

tips, let us know.

First here's our our own

anti-plastic warrior

with her take on today's news.

If this is a tipping point in the

story of how we saved our seas and

countryside from ourselves, it has

been a long time coming. Since I

joined The one Show in 2007 I have

done my best to give a voice to

people and organisations trying to

change our behaviour and force

politicians to take a lead. Each

spend £470 a year on packaging we

don't want ask for. Liley 400

beaches revealed nearly 2000 pieces

of litter for every kilometre

survey.

That is around 800 earbud is

in there.

It hasn't always been

easy. In the end it was a nesting

albatross and the baby whale that

focused everyone on an issue that

often rises up the political agenda,

but rarely stays there.

Plastic has

become an integral part of our daily

lives. But every year, 8 million

tonnes of it ends up in the ocean.

And there, it can be lethal.

On the

day the Prime Minister went to a

west London wetland Park and

revealed she put up an owl nesting

box, we asked the public how the

attitudes have changed to help the

environment.

I have decided

consciously, not to buy a 5p bike so

I'm carrying my items to work.

I

always take a back like this and

something like this which folds up

and I can put in anything so I don't

need a plastic bag.

I just put my

drink in a plastic cup.

I try and

buy from the market because they

don't try and decorate the product

and give me the product.

Supermarkets spend more money on

packaging.

Milk comes in plastic

containers and it used to be in

glass bottles. We wish it was in

glass bottles again.

The government

said it would extend the 5p plastic

bag charge to all shops and avoid

all avoidable plastic waste.

We have

created the chaos, if you like, but

now we need to solve it.

Not doing

down the plastics issue but there

are larger issues people in this

country need to face rather than

worrying about plastic bags.

By

2042I hope they have eradicated

plastic. I will be long pushing up

daisies, so

you have plenty of time.

2042 seems

like a long time, Lucy?

Especially

when you think about the amount of

plastic that will be prorated in the

interim. But we know the plastic

that has been created is still

pretty much in existence, because we

have very poor recycling rates for a

number of reasons. If you think by

2042, by my calculations, because

plastic production is set to

increase, we could be looking at an

extra 19 billion tonnes globally.

Yes, we absolutely need to act now.

A lot of good feeling Abeid green

today, it is the first time since

2000 2003 British Prime Minister has

given an environmental speech on

domestic environmental policy in

this way. But people are saying

there is no legislation underpinning

it and no targets we need to stick

to. My theory is we will have to

break up with plastic ourselves on

an individual basis to get things

going. The string bag, we had the

lady in the clip say, always take it

with you. Very, very easy. The few

things we absolutely need to make

sure we substitute immediately.

Cotton buds, switch. Make sure you

are not buying the one with the

plastic, but they are cotton ones.

Some supermarkets have already

switched, which is good. The

Scottish Government said it is

launching a consultation which will

hopefully lead to a policy change.

We have banned micro beads a lot of

cosmetic products and that is coming

into effect in the early summer.

The

options are the paper ones?

Yes,

there is a substitution. It makes it

crazy we do this stuff. Plastic

cups, they have plastic lids, we use

something like 2.6 billion a year.

It is crazy. We need to substitute

these immediately. One of the great

ways of doing this is with one you

can reuse and wash easily. We saw

the Environment Secretary holding

one of these the other day.

That

will be tricky, it has become a

culture to be wandering around with

one of those cubs in your hand.

We're not saying you cannot have a

beverage, but just carry one of

these.

It is not easy is it.

I carry

one in my handbag, it is easy.

It

isn't easy.

Would you struggle with

that, Gordon?

You would make it

work.

It is not that easy, that is

what I am trying to say.

What is the

impact of not doing that.

Stay in

the coffee shop, drink it and then

leave.

Slowdown everyone.

Another

thing, maybe have your water in the

establishment as well because we are

getting through 38.5 million of

these every day.

Every day?

Yes,

something like a million on the

planet every second being discarded.

On the one Show, we are switching to

these.

It has happened for about a

year. Everyone in The Office has

them.

We have to do these things.

Straws, talk about egregious. Most

of us don't need a receptacle to get

from the mouth to the receptacle.

This is the biggest overselling of

anything. Used for 20 minutes on

average, let's get rid of them.

You

can get paper ones.

Gordon, tell me

your establishments are going to

stop using these straws.

Under

pressure.

Fingers crossed, I love

the idea of cardboard as opposed to

plastic. When you are having a drink

and it is full of ice and magical

excitement in the gas, you need a

straw.

I will help you, you need

cardboard.

No thank you. OK, I will

change. We need a commitment from

you. Today is about commitments. You

are worse than my mum.

She's going

to be after you.

OK, I will change.

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Good night.

He has actually gone. You might

consider taking up a new hobby, try

and find Gordon Ramsay in the

studio.

He is back.

He went to order

some paper straws.

They are en

route.

Now, if you've got some

spare time on your hands,

you might be considering taking up

a hobby, something like

painting or maybe cooking.

But what about spending time

at Her Majesty's pleasure in prison?

Well, people from all different

backgrounds are being sought to do

just that, even if they haven't

done anything wrong.

Here's Nick.

I am at HMP Peter Barrett to meet

the woman with the keys to the

prison. But former teacher, Susan

isn't the governor.

Just coming down

to do what I normally do, which is

being nosy.

Susan is part of the

Independent monitoring board,

members of the public who have

unrestricted access. They can go

anywhere they like, any time of day,

completely unannounced, on their

own. They are giving us exclusive

access to their work. Do you have a

panic button on your wrist.

I have a

whistle, but I have never used it. I

did carry a rape alarm for well but

I kept dropping it down the toilet.

It is Susan's job to monitor living

standards in the prison from

conditions and drugs.

I have a chat

with the staff about how things are

going, get a feel for is this a

constructive place for them to spend

their time.

The prisoners are free

to speak to Susan at any point.

How

are you today.

Susan spent 20 years

as a French and German teacher

before Rich Rowe in -- retiring. Can

you understand how some people might

see you as a do-gooder?

Absolutely,

but I don't think we are. We're not

on the side of the prisoner, it is

just whether they are treated

fairly, not whether they have sky TV

or lots of fluffy cushions on the

bed.

Like the prison service as a

whole, there has been a rising tide

of violence in this prison with

assaults on staff and prisoners at

record levels.

One of the things we

are expected to report on is the

food. Do you try the food? Yes, I

might try some of these wedges.

That

is my first taste of prison food.

Not bad. In her nine years with the

IMB, she has reported on population,

poor living conditions, drugs and

inexperienced staff.

She becomes our

voice, we give our problems and she

goes directly to the management of

the department we need. They come

straight back to us.

If I see

something that should absolutely not

be happening and it is a serious

issue, I could go straight to the

Secretary of State.

Susan has never

had to go right to the top and

although IMB can push the change,

they have no authority over the

prison system. Does it frustrate you

you only have the power to advise?

That is our job, we are there to

monitor, tell the prison what we

have seen and we think it is worth

raising. And then we see how long it

takes them to act on it.

You still

think there is a point to do what

you are doing?

I think we are like a

conscience.

But the IMB have come in

for criticism over a lack of

diversity in their recruitment. Last

year, three prisoners were killed by

other inmates so we looked at the

IMB reports. The IMB report from

long-lasting in lustre should fail

to mention an incident where one

prisoner killed another in their

cell. The IMB said the incident was

excluded because they had no direct

experience of it that the time and

to avoid prejudicing ongoing

investigations. But we found depths

under investigations at other

prisons that were referenced in

their reports. Does this

inconsistency highlight another lack

of credibility they have been

criticised for? I am eating their

national chair. Their lot is

criticism about IMB, what powers do

they have?

Nobody has any powers and

the IMB is like the canary in the

mine and they are telling you when

things might going wrong. As a

consequence, cutting staff and as a

consequence of drugs getting into

prisons, prisons are less safe and

less likely to rehabilitate

prisoners than they were.

Will you

take any steps to ensure IMB members

will reflect the diversity of the

prison population?

Diversity is

something we had to look at. But you

don't have to have walked the same

road to know whether the conditions

and treatment people are being held

in our right and proper.

It is good

to feel I came in that day and I

went home and I actually had done

something that was valuable.

It

sounds like you are the empathy

gland of the prison system.

We can

be yes, but we're not suckers.

Such a fascinating take on that.

And if you're interested

in volunteering and becoming an IMB,

the details are on our website.

[email protected].

Gordon, you did a show based

in Brixton Prison where you taught

inmates how to cook.

How did you find life behind bars?

That culture inside, they need to

lead that something tangible so when

they go back into society they have

something to hang onto. Then their

reoffending becomes very limited. I

wish we had that focus group in

restaurants.

Behind the scenes to

see what's going on?

Great insight,

you want these guys and girls to be

more educated. Before they come back

home. It is important.

I was reading

you would get people to come into

your restaurants and cause hassle so

you can see how your staff react?

Yes, mystery shoppers, from knocking

over glasses of wine and sending

feedback when there is nothing wrong

with it, to seek what the reaction

was. I am a big advocate because you

get it instantly, within a minute

back. Last Friday we closed a

restaurant round daily-macro down

for a weeks and we had mystery

shoppers in their and that is a

three Michelin star standard. This

year we celebrate 20 years.

Amazing.

You are on a mission to teach the

nation how to eat healthily?

And now you're teaching the nation

how to eat healthily?

Yes, but it isn't all about diet, it

is just about eating healthily,

cutting back on being a little

smarter with the portions.

There are

three categories, you can go quite

extreme with the fitness side of it,

or leaner food.

I was cranky and

overweight, and chefs have the worst

eating habits because we graze all

day long, so the idea was to cut

back a little on the dairy, little

more protein and be more smarter

with the dressings and cream

substitute, and be more fragrant

with herbs and spices, and then just

being smart.

It is hard when you are

eating out, you want to look at the

menu and choose loads of different

things, so what would your tip speed

to help people eat healthily?

Going

out is a treat, so you have to enjoy

that. I changed from flat the

sparkling -- flat water to

sparkling, it helps to fill you up.

I have a snack in the afternoon

before dinner, and share a couple of

items, share a starter or

items, share a starter or dessert.

Share a dessert?! .

Yes, why not. I

was unfit, and I was overweight, and

I started getting fit and running

marathons, and it helps you feel

better.

And you are very good at

treating people back. We have got a

few.

When one asked, "What do you think

of my flatmate's meal?"

You replied, "Look

for a new flatmate."

And when another tweeted, "How's my

dinner looking, Mr Ramsay?"

You tweeted back, "Congratulations,

I've never seen eggs that dry."

No mention of the pineapple!

And finally, this fan who asked,

"What do you think, mate?"

Your three word reply -

"I feel sick!"

What do you reckon to my lunch -

spag bol with pasta shells?

Are you a fan of pasta shells?

Taylor Black plastic ones! We are

cutting back on the plastic!

Well, my dogs loved it.

They didn't actually eating it, they

just looked lovingly at it! It was

very tasty.

Now, we want your help.

Part of the huge Robin Hood Gardens

estate in east London

is currently being demolished,

but the Victoria and Albert museum

is going to be taking away a section

of it to form part of an exhibition.

It's now considered

a significant piece of British

architectural history.

We'd love to speak to people

who've lived in Robin Hood

Gardens at any stage.

So if you have any memories

or photos you'd like to share

with us, please get in touch.

Now, over the past week Mike

has covered many miles

on his deep sea adventure.

In a moment we'll be catching up

with him on dry land, but first

let's see how his journey ended.

Over the past few weeks, I've

travelled more than 1500 miles

aboard the Celtic Explorer, a

research vessel on a complex survey

of marine life to write British and

Irish waters. I have had some

extraordinary encounters with rarely

filmed marine mammals, including a

close encounter with

close encounter with minke whales.

But my time is running out, so my

chances of coming across a real

ocean monster is slim. Sensing an

easy meal, began its turn up. These

specialist divers have reinforced

next to prevent damage as they tear

into the water at more than 60 mph.

They are just dropping like arrows,

they fold their wings and go into

the water. I have seen it before,

but never this number going in at

the same time. It is a feeding

frenzy.

frenzy. Then as quickly as it began,

the feast is over. Coming across

this many is a great side as the

surrounding water is productive,

meaning it is likely there are other

predators feeding nearby.

Then, out of the stillness...

Look at that for a massive blow!

There is the back, and the Finn. A

blow this high can only be produced

by one of the two biggest creatures

on the planet. The blue whale or it

aptly named cousin,

aptly named cousin, the fin whale.

They can grow up to 27 metres in

length, and weigh 90 tonnes. That's

as much as seven double-decker

buses. Sometimes called the

greyhound of the sea, their

streamlined bodies make them one of

the fastest Wales in the ocean.

the fastest Wales in the ocean. We

have seen a leviathan of the oceans,

the second-biggest animal the planet

today, the fin whale, the most

enormous cherry on top of this

incredible expedition. I begin the

journey home, believing I have seen

the best the ocean has to offer, but

I'm wrong. We have just had an

incredibly exciting moment on board

the ship. I'm standing next to one

of the biologists, and we were

looking out to sea and just caught a

very large splash. We ran over to

see a shark leapt clear of the water

from about 150 metres away. He

managed to get a picture. Have a

look at that. Look at the size of

that fin

look at that. Look at the size of

that fin. This thresher shark's body

is eight feet long, and the tail the

same length again. They are normally

found in tropical waters, so to see

one let alone that one beach in just

ten miles from the Scottish coast is

truly extraordinary. There is a

wealth of marine life in the seas

around Britain and Ireland, and over

the last three weeks, I've had,

doors by riding, Rhys Evans Mac

Dolphins leaping up into the air,

basking sharks meandering past the

ship, my best ever

ship, my best ever views of minke

whale, and to top it all, the

majestic fin whale. And all you have

to do to see this amazing variety of

marine life is just go a little bit

deeper.

What a way to end a wonderful trip.

Well, Mike is here, along with Lucy.

Watch out, Gordon!

What a trip, Mike.

This wasn't just about a lovely boat

ride.

What did the scientists learn?

I had an amazing time. The focus of

the survey was to look at herring

and mackerel. They want to manage

the stocks of them sustainably for

people and wildlife, and only when

they know what is out there and what

is under the wave, and manage the

fishery levels sustainably so that

people can enjoy their fish and

chips in the future, as the results

are interesting. They collated all

the data. Boarfish, the little fish

I saw for the first time, levels are

good in the North Atlantic, horse

mackerel, numbers are going up and

down, currently very good, but they

are susceptible to big changes, and

herring are lowered the moment but

good in the North Sea. Because of

the service, cod and haddock are now

considered sustainable, what they

are doing is incredibly important

for future proofing our fisheries

for our fish.

And results of surveys

like this one are relevant for EU

policy, but recently the Environment

Secretary Michael Gove is saying

that we should reclaim our fishing

rights.

So what will the implications be

for surveys like this?

It is the intrusion of other

fisheries across Europe. We take a

lot of flak, but I always say to my

chefs, look, we run out, it is fine,

if you go to a restaurant, and you

have run out of something, it is

fresh, that is a good sign. But it

is intrusion from the foreign

fisheries that are damaging hours.

European investors can fish within

six or 12 nautical miles, and

Michael Gove says that we will take

back control of our territorial

waters, but for the first time in 50

years, it will be on our terms and

under our control. But it is

important that these EU sponsored

surveys carry on, because the fish,

for example, British waters, Irish

waters, we have to manage the stocks

collectively, otherwise they will

collapse everywhere.

And as you are

saying, as a chef you have to be

receptive, and it is all about

seasonal eating.

And that is a

chef's responsibility today, Mick

make it seasonal. You don't want to

eat sea bass or called 12 months a

year.

Root vegetables are the same.

Lucy, it seems to me

that it's wildlife

programmes like Blue Planet,

which was the highest-rated

programme of 2017 by the way,

which have a real impact

on the public, especially

when they see such powerful images

of the damage that plastic is doing.

It is so important, and it resonates

with so many people. However, that

is a charismatic species, and a lot

of the damage that is being done by

plastic pollution is quite mundane.

And we also need to think about, we

need behavioural change. We can't

emotionally get involved in a series

that comes out once a year, I want

us to be talking about this stuff

all the time. I would like every day

to be like today, and I want younger

voices as well. They are going to

inherit some huge environmental

problems, so what do they think

about it?

Lucy, earlier on we asked our

viewers to tell us how they're

doing their bit to cut down

on the use of plastic, and we've had

some interesting ones, haven't we?

Sarah from Dorset, no plastic in the

bathroom, soap all the way, she

makes shampoo bars to wash her hair.

Is she still single?

Louise says she

has started using the local milkmen.

For what? Sorry!

You are so naughty!

To deliver milk!

Not babies.

That

Israel 70s humour. Courtney wants a

cut down her use of plastic by using

cardboard boxes to carry things

instead.

instead.

She can use that box for my

straws!

And Sophie takes a water

bottle out with her and asks cafes

to let her fill it up with water

instead of buying plastic bottles.

I'm sure Gordon's restaurants will

be receptive to that request as

well.

Yes, £4.50 per bottle!

well.

Yes, £4.50 per bottle!

In the

inshore waters, we are seeing so

much litter, and even further out,

still seeing marine litter, fishnet,

it is astonishing how pervasive this

has got.

We need to turn the tide on

plastic, we absolutely have to do

it.

We will turn the tide!

People are talking about it, and

that is the main thing.

Well, thank you all

for your suggestions.

That's it for tonight's show.

Thanks, Gordon, and good luck

with your Ultimate Fit Food book.

Tomorrow night Patrick Kielty's

here, and we'll be joined

by Oscar-winning star Eddie

Redmayne.

Have a great night.