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out. # You know we got to work it out.

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APPLAUSE Hello. Welcome to The One Show.

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Thank you to Texas. A brand new single on the way from Sharleen and

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the band later. Very much looking forward to that. You can say what

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you want but you can not deny this isn't a monster of an obstacle

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course. Ready? Let's do this! We will stop there for now. We will

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save the best for later. Pleads do. It's the Biggest inflatable obstacle

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course in the whole of Europe. Is that right? We will be putting it to

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good use during the show. Done well. We are also joined by a galaxy of

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guests who have travelled far and wide to be with us tonight. Shall we

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find out who they are. Between them Olympic gold medallist Helen Glover

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and Steve Backshall. Tonight they're on dry land to tell us about their

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epic plans for the weekend. Oh my word. It's huge. Is it that close?

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Always good to see you mate. As for our other guests, one has travelled

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thousands of miles for a special Easter pilgrimage. Yes, the other

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has journeyed billions of light years through time and through

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space, it's the Doctor's brand new companion, Pearl Mackie and Fern

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Britton! APPLAUSE

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Well, Pearl, we will start, you have only just finished filming Doctor

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Who on Friday. Yeah, just wrapped on Friday, kind of mad. You can't give

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anything away. No spoilers. Can you give us the last face you pulled in

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the last scene that you filmed? Can I remember that? Yeah, it was

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something along these lines. Oh! That wasn't necessarily the last

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scene of the episode, though. Last scene you filmed. OK, have you got a

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sense already of the enormity of what you are part of now? Yeah, kind

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of. It's gradually hitting me, you know, sort of things will happen and

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I will get to come on The One Show and that's pretty mad. Yeah, so that

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kind of thing is very, very surreal. You know, fans and all of that kind

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of stuff. Already. Yeah, I think it will sort of only multiply after

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Saturday. Brace yourself. Fern, is this a bad time to say what you put

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into Room 101? Yeah, no, I don't want anyone to take this personally.

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I did put in Doctor Who because... Shall we look at you doing it.

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Sorry! I don't understand any of it. Any of it! Doctor Who I think is the

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most dreary thing on... Yeah, you can't unsee that now. Then

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you and Peter Capaldi and Matt Lucas turned up and suddenly I am really

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fired up about it. I am not a science fiction fan and Doctor Who

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has been going almost as long as I have. It hasn't ever captured me.

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Don't hold it against me. We have an exclusive clip later. That will

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capture you. It will. I am on it now. You will be telling us about

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your new body art, as well. I might. So much to get through in this hour.

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Let's get cracking. Ahead of the Government releasing a new air

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quality plan in 12 days' time, the focus has been on reducing the

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pollution risk from older diesel cars. Proposals have included

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everything from toxic taxes to scrappage schemes. However, some

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campaigners in -- in port towns say the problem

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isn't just on the road. Here's Lucy. That's the equivalent to around 400

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lorries parked with their engines running.

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So it's no surprise to hear last year Southampton breached

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international clean air standards. It's the 9th most polluted city in

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the UK and although that's not all down to shipping, local residents

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have formed a campaign group calling for something to be done. On our

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window sills we get dust and soot. Nobody has the right to pollute my

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air and my children's air for the sake of their profits. But could

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this be the solution? Southampton is planning on becoming the first UK

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port to install onshore electricity for moored ships. Alistair is the

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port director. My background is in the aviation industry and with an

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aircraft when you come to a stop you plug in power and turn the engines

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off. In you are in a yath the same thing happens. With a larger ship it

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doesn't happen. Sounds simple. In practice, install ago power supply

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would be a huge project. How much would it cost? That's the million

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dollar question. But it's multiply million pounds. So, is it worth it?

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Nobody has done the actual science to establish how dirty the air here

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in Southampton is, how much the pollution is attributable to ships

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and what difference an electricity supply would make. That's where

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Southampton University comes in. They've begun a survey of air

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pollution levels in the city headed by Dr Matt Locksham. We are going to

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take readings of dust samples to understand how the make-up of air

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pollution changes day-to-day depending on how many ships there

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are moving in the docks, what the road traffic activity is and what

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the weather's like, as well. Matt's results won't be known for two

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years. So we have asked a doctor from Queen Mary University in London

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to conduct a simple air quality test of our own in the terminal next to

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where ships dock. Over two days we will monitor levels when there is

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and isn't a ship in dock. This measures how much black carbon is in

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the air around you. Let's set it up. We will put this tube outside. The

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Monday store will give us a reading every 60 seconds. Hopefully we will

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see a difference between ships coming in and out of dock. The

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results of that experiment to come. Meanwhile, in response to concerns

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about diesel ships, some new cruise liners are running on alternative

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fuels. Just arrived in port is what is claimed to be one of the world's

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greenest liners. First of many in the carnival fleet to run in port on

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low emission liquid natural gas. The chairman is David Dingle. Other

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cruise lines are ordering ships with a cleaner fuel that's been used

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traditionally. What do you make of the proposal to have onshore

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electric? It's a good proposal. But it's all very well to produce plug

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in electricity in the ports, but how was that electricity produced in the

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first place? Was it its origin any greener than the way in which we

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produce electricity within our ships when they're tied up alongside?

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Back to the results of our test. Although this is just a snapshot and

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not a thorough scientific study, the impact of a ship coming into port on

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air quality is clear to see. First up, the reading when there is

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no ship. You can see it's pretty much a flat line. The levels were

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low from what we managed to capture. And what about when there is a

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cruise liner docked? You can see that the readings are generally a

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little higher. There is also a spike here which could be because of a

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passing ship. This reading essentially puts the port on a par

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with an average street in London, one of our most polluted cities.

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That's why for Alistair onshore electricity is a solution worth

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pursuing. I think in 50 years' time it probably won't be needed. We want

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to explore to see whether there is an option to do something in the

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sper rim which will help to support a reduction in emissions locally. We

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will keep an eye on that issue. The Government report is due on 24th

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April. Pearl, as Doctor Who's new companion, what does the Tardis run,

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petrol, diesel? It's space engine oil. No congestion charges. Great.

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No pollution either. Let's have a look at you in character. Here is a

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lovely photograph of you. Tell us about Bill. Bill's great.

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She's really, she's very real. She's like, kind of like, you know, if you

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or I sort of stumbled down the road and discovered a Tardis and a crazy

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man inside it who was offering to show you all of space and time, you

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know. Wide-eyed. Completely. With that she brings a kind of fresh look

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at the Doctor and the universe he presents. She's very inquisitive, as

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well, which is something that I like about her. Is that what the creators

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wanted or did you have input into her style or anything like that? A

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little bit of input into her style. The costume designer and I went

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shopping together and actually kind of had both had a similar idea about

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what we wanted for her. That was cool. Yeah, we put her together,

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together. Shall we look at an exclusive clip from this Saturday's

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episode. People are going to be very excited!

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Can you do that? Can I say no? Yes, then. But no really. Where are we?

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Basically in the middle of a war. It's a war zone. This is just your

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basic skirmish. It's not as bad as it sounds, I promise you. Come on, I

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have friends here. Old friends. APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Pearl, you are in the thick of it there. Yeah. With Doctor Who,

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obviously with his travelling he comes with a lot of baggage. How

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much of all of that were you aware of before you started with this,

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were you a lifelong fan? It wasn't on when I was a kid. I was part of

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the sort of years, I didn't, it came back when I was 16 and sort of hang

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out in parks and probably doing silly things. But, yeah... That lack

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of knowledge was it a good thing? I think so. I mean, I said to Stephen

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and Brian when I got the job, look, give me the back catalogue, I would

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love to watch it all, I would be excited. They were like, independent

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don't know whatever you are doing is working well and it's nice if you

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are experience things as Bill experiences them, as well. Yeah, I

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thought it was a good way to sort of go. Maybe opens it up to people who

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may not be science fiction nuts like our friend Fern here. We might be

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able to persuade her yet: It's a good way to first watch, even with

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no prior knowledge. I am in there. 7. 20pm, BBC One, Saturday night. I

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am there. You are about to be thrust into this kind of, I would imagine,

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slightly overwhelming limelight, very exciting. But for people who

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are being introduced to you via Doctor Who, where did you come from,

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what was your last - your background? I grew up in Brixton, I

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am a London girl. I went to Bristol Vic Theatre School, graduated about

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seven years ago, lots of theatre before that. Recently did The

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Curious Incident of The Dog. Finished that and had a day to move

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to Cardiff and start Doctor Who. Didn't Peter Capaldi see you? He

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did, after I had been cast. The last time we had seen each other was in

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this very intense recall in this hotel and then he came to see

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Curious Incident, I heard I got the job, celebrated and not told anyone

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because it's a secret. I heard that he was in the audience. And I was

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like... What do I do? It's terrifying, is he going to tell

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everyone, is he not going to say anything? Both of us were sort of

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like... He was like, congratulations. I was like, thank

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you. Ran away afterwards! It was so intense. The most intense sort of

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five minutes of my life. What was first day on set like for you? It

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was mad. Yeah, the sort of one kind of most overwhelming thing was the

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amount of crew. We rehearsed, we filmed the first scene of the first

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episode on the first day so rehearsed that and it's a chunky

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scene, we had a long time of Peter and I and the director. Then we did

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a thing called a crew show, all the crew come in and you show them and

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they know where to set booms and everything like that. They just kept

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coming. And I was sitting there, yeah, seriously! It was like, there

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was so many of them. I remember thinking how am I going to remember

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all these people's names? Did you? Yes, I do. I know all their names.

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Tell me about the Daleks, have they got a big ego now, they've been

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around a long time? Are they a bit precious to work with? They're gold

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these days, as well. So yeah, they're a bit flash. You can see

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Pearl in Doctor Who this Saturday night at 7. 20 on BBC One and Fern

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will be watching. LAUGHTER

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The world of football is littered with stories of those whose careers

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hit the buffers after injury. In Lee Hendry's case his fall from grace

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nearly cost him his life. Here, he and his wife look back at events and

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how they got through it. The moment of you walking out that

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tunnel, the roar of the crowd and people jumping out of their seats is

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probably the best feeling you can ever imagine. All the fans loved him

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because he gave 100%. He was fun, outgoing, everyone knew him. I was

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earning ?35,000 a week. We had nice cars, a nice house, everything we

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could ever imagine. At times, you thought he was untouchable. I got a

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few injuries that put stumbling blocks on the playing, and people

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started to forget who I was. What can you do with someone who is at

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the top of the game, earning thousands, and it is all coming down

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on top of an? He is the type who will just brush everything under the

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carpet, so when I started opening the post and realising these were

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red letters, things we hadn't pay, I felt physically sick. -- things we

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hadn't paid. Lee hit the pressure on pretty much when his mum's pals got

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taken off her. It wasn't just affecting him and me now, but

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everyone around us. Things were going and we couldn't do anything

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about it. It is difficult when you are booking after the kids and URL

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most having to look after your husband as well. It shouldn't be

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like that. -- you are almost having to look after your husband as well.

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I thought, you know what, this is where it ends. I didn't want to be

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here. That was me done, that was Lee Hendrie, you know, his life is

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finished. And it makes me well up a bit, to be fair. The darkest,

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darkest time of my life, ever, ... I think it was more... What I tell the

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children, that was my main worry at the time. My stepdaughter 's and my

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to make boys, even though they weren't old enough... Sorry. -- my

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two boys. It was having the family all-rounder bed and thinking, it

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didn't work, it didn't happen. -- all round the bed. It sounds

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selfish, but I knew deep down that it was going to happen again. It was

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the waking up. I can't remember anyone being there. It's care me, it

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did. Probably the best thing to do was to wake up with no one around

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him, because that made him realise we can't sit and watch him just

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destroy himself. I had lost everything that I had financially. I

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was going to end up being a sad, lonely old man, or I was going to go

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somewhere. I couldn't do it, couldn't do it to my family.

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Dutch, touch, keep him in. It has really given me a feel for being

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back in the game, passing on my knowledge, and I can offer that to a

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lot of youngsters. To be rock bottom and to really build it back up

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again, I burst with pride is just to say how far Lee has come. What makes

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me happy is seeing the kids playing outside with their dad. Now that I

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have got that back, it is a breath of fresh air. I love him to bits.

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That definitely won't change. Thank you to Lee and Emma were speaking so

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candidly to us. What might we are being joined by an old friend of the

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one show, Jonny. You made a film for us will stop you were about to take

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your own life and a stranger came up and talked around, and now you spend

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your time doing your best to help people in a similar situation to

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yourself. The situation we have from Lee there, it's not unique, is it?

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The majority of people who try to take their own lives are men. Lee is

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so brave, and his wife is so brave. It's true. 75% of all suicides are

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men. It is the biggest killer of men under 45. By having -- we have a

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match our culture. We say, man up. Boys get that message. And they

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think it is not OK to show emotion and be vulnerable. I believe it is

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big cars -- not because you want to die. You want every thing to stop

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for a minute. It annoys me when people say selfish. And it is often

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the only option that people can see. The only way out. But it is

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literally just wanting to stop a minute, not to die. Wanting the

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painter M. We see Emma in that video, so confused and helpless. Are

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there things that family members experiencing loved ones going

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through this pain, things that they can say or do, or that they should

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not say or do? The most important thing is to be empathetic,

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supporter, and not give up on the person. Keep reminding them of

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recovery. We don't hear that message enough when people are struggling

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with mental health issues. You can get better. There are so many people

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out there functioning with it. People need reminding. Don't say,

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pull yourself together, or I've been through it as well. You wouldn't say

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that to someone with something like cancer. You would be so much more

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supportive if it was a physical issue, but this is no different to

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any other part of the body. Jonny, do you still have dark times? What

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helps you get through that? I still do. I had a relapse two months ago

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and ended up back in hospital. Now, I try to think of it like my good

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friend who has diabetes. She has bad periods, but then she goes to

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hospital. She doesn't beat herself up, so why try not to, try to ask

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for help and not be ashamed or embarrassed. I hate it when people

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say it is a stigma. No, it's not. Hello. I'm not feeling very well,

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and it's not just a couple of weeks. The message needs to change. It is

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getting there. We have a long way to go. Rob me, things like therapy have

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helped massively. For me, I take medicine. It has been a massive help

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for me. You need a break from it sometimes, a bit of peace of mind.

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And you can do it. Proud of you. And for those people who maybe don't

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have a strong family around them and feel a bit alone watching this, what

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is the best advice you can get? There is so much support out there.

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If you don't want to go to your GP, there are so many amazing charities.

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Mind, Calm, the Samaritans. It is 24 hours a day. There is so much

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support, and you will be heard. And educate Duchess of Cornwall, Heads

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Together. Which Is Amazing. Absolutely. We have put some links

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on our website. Jonny, thanks for joining us. To refit. This Friday,

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you can see Fern travelling through the Holy Land on a special

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pilgrimage to places that feature in the Easter story. This is the

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judgment gate. Beaten almost senseless. He had lost a lot of

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blood, standing here. My goodness, wow! Obviously, as a Christian, I

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have a belief, and also I understand people who say to me, totally

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irrational nonsense, none of it happen. And yet, sitting here, and

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it may be my brain playing a trick, but in me, I can feel something. I'm

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not given to tears. This is a meaningful moment.

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Where was that? On the outside of the walls of Jerusalem. The old city

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is about a square kilometre and there are four square walls around

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it. It is one of the outside walls, you will see those steps, and

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everyone is walking past because they are not a religious shrine or

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something that has been sanctioned. The archaeologist there, he is not

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certain either, but it makes a kind of sense to him scientifically and

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archaeologically that these were the steps into the Pontius Pilate's

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Palace. And there would have been an archway but it has been bricked up

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now. But through those steps, Jesus would have walked, and having had

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his trial, he would have come out and stood on the steps, and the

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crowd are all around asking to kill him. He had already been flayed with

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whips, wearing his crown of thorns, he was exhausted, bleeding heavily.

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And you've got this feeling... I am starting to feel it now, but I was

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thinking, this could be where he stood, where he had the last view of

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freedom. The scenery, the landscape, has barely changed. It was

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incredible. What was the purpose, then, the whole journey, the

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pilgrimage? The purpose of the trip, to me, Jesus the man, who existed,

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is very interesting as a human being if you take out all that he was the

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son of God. He was a human being living a very human life with his

:25:53.:25:57.

family. And then everything became complicated for him. We don't know

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what happened when he started preaching. And he wasn't very

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well-known in Galilee, perhaps, and he arrived in Jerusalem and not many

:26:06.:26:08.

people knew that he was coming, and I thought, as a person, how does

:26:09.:26:13.

that journey feel? So we followed in his footsteps, and it got very...

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You got the feeling of his sense of destiny that this was going to

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happen, he was going to put himself through it. So, where else did it

:26:24.:26:28.

take you? All through the city of Jerusalem. The nicest place was the

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Garden of gas enemy, where he went after the Last Supper.

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-- is the garden of Gethsemane. He was praying, saying, take this awful

:26:45.:26:51.

burden away from me. And his friends all fell asleep. It was a human

:26:52.:26:57.

situation. Whether things about the Easter story that you thought you

:26:58.:27:06.

knew already that surprise you? -- were there things about the Easter

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story... It would have been things about the traditional monks

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clothing, like we would imagine, dark brown robes. Flip-flop sandals.

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And in the winter, he would wear socks that had the whole divided so

:27:19.:27:27.

that you could put your flip-flops on between your toes. It is that

:27:28.:27:31.

kind of stuff. I am not a theologian and I am not the Archbishop of

:27:32.:27:36.

Canterbury, clearly, but I find that whole... It is the small things

:27:37.:27:40.

about religion that boost my faith, and I don't pretend to know

:27:41.:27:45.

everything about everything. You mark your journey in quite an

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unusual way. Or maybe not so unusual, because you already have

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had tattoos in the past. I do. I think we have some footage of you

:27:57.:28:00.

going through this. Did you have this in mind when you turned up?

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Yeah, I knew that there was this family there who have been doing

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tattoos for Knights Templars and people doing pilgrimages. 600 years

:28:13.:28:17.

ago, and direct descendants are there doing it. Somebody said to me

:28:18.:28:29.

the other day, is it your carpal tunnel? No, it's a little cross

:28:30.:28:36.

which you have two show that you've done your pilgrimage. And the

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important thing is, when you shake hands, they can see you've done your

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pilgrimage, but also that you come in peace. Isn't that nice? A nice

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note to finish on. Fern's Holy Land Journey is on this Friday morning at

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9am. From any of us, the Easter weekend is a chance to catch up with

:28:58.:29:01.

family, friends and enjoy a bit of relaxation, and maybe some

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chocolate. Not so far Helen Glover and her husband, wildlife presenter

:29:08.:29:10.

Steve Backshall. Their weekend will be anything but relaxing. Have a

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look at this. Rio De seven months ago, in Rio, I

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defended the Olympic title that I won in 2012. I was cheered on by

:29:24.:29:34.

fiance, Steve Backshall. It was all about coming here in defending the

:29:35.:29:38.

title. They have just been unbelievable. And now, I am about to

:29:39.:29:42.

do all that winter training again, but this time with my husband,

:29:43.:29:45.

Steve. We are taking on something that will test me and maybe our

:29:46.:29:50.

relationship to the limit. I was twiddling my thumbs a bit after

:29:51.:29:55.

Riou, and I wanted a challenge, so I wrote Steve into doing the devises

:29:56.:30:01.

the West kayak race. He had done it before and I always wanted to do

:30:02.:30:02.

something really different. The race travels 125 miles.

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Non-stop. So the training is intense. We have only decided to do

:30:16.:30:19.

this six weeks before the race. The other two times I have done it I

:30:20.:30:25.

have had a year of training. So, six weeks isn't enough. We are now in

:30:26.:30:28.

full-time training to get our bodies and minds ready.

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As well as covering the miles in the kayak we are hitting the gym to

:30:32.:30:36.

build the upper body and core strength we will need.

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That's nice. Go on, just one more. Go on! For me, I will be learning an

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entirely new discipline. Kayaking is totally new to me and lots of people

:30:47.:30:49.

watch it and think it's very similar to rowing. In terms of the muscle

:30:50.:30:53.

groups and the energy systems and the way you train it's actually

:30:54.:30:58.

entirely different. But I am out of my comfort zone at the moment in a

:30:59.:31:01.

kayak. I have never been in a kayak like this before. I need to get used

:31:02.:31:09.

to it. There you go. During the race, I

:31:10.:31:15.

will be steering and setting the pace. But at the moment just keeping

:31:16.:31:22.

it stable is a problem. That was a disaster. I am not

:31:23.:31:32.

feeling very confident right now. How far did we go? About 50 metres.

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Just as important as our training is our diet.

:31:42.:31:45.

Over the next few weeks we will be eating plenty of slow release cash

:31:46.:31:49.

high driets and a large amount of fruit and veg which is easier to get

:31:50.:31:52.

down if it's blended. How does it taste? How it looks. Like sludge. Do

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you want mine, as well? No! To help us stay afloat we have opted

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for a more stable boat. But this will make the race harder as it is

:32:05.:32:08.

slower and heavier. Along the way there are 77 locks

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where we will need to get out and carry the boat, running with it on

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our shoulders. After two weeks of river training we are now covering

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distances of over 20 miles in each session.

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And they're starting to take their toll. My back is starting to hurt.

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My hands are sore. It will be worse in the morning. Your shoulders are

:32:28.:32:30.

going to hurt so bad in the morning. So far we have done our training on

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the River Thames but the first 52 miles of the race are on the canal.

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So we head to Newbury to start a session from there. This is what the

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majority of the race is all about. It's very, very different from the

:32:42.:32:45.

river, because there is no flow, it's flat water. Paddling on a canal

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is much more difficult and after three-and-a-half hours with no

:32:51.:32:53.

assistance from the flow I realise just how tough this challenge is

:32:54.:32:58.

going to be. It's a wake-up call, isn't it? I found that quite hard. I

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am really tired. The speed we were going today is the speed that we

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need to do for 125 miles. I think if someone told me now to go on for

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another half hour I would have got out of the boat. That was me done

:33:12.:33:16.

today. But with the race getting ever closer we need to step up a

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gear, which includes training at night. During the event this is when

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a lot of people give up. I feel like I have started from scratch, just

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being in the dark. It's a whole new ball game, it's disorientating. Half

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the race is at night. Ten hours of paddling like this. We have a lot of

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work to do, to be honest. We will be all right. What could possibly go

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wrong! And Helen and Steve are here now.

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Let's give them a big round of applause!

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APPLAUSE Are you ready? No! Come on. As we

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will ever be, we feel. What's the plan between now and the start of

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the race? Eat lots. Eat lots of pasties and pie. It's going to be

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great. The thing is it's 125 miles. You are going to try to do this in

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24 hours. You don't really get a sense there, but it is a race, you

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are racing against other competitors. How does that work?

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Well, you can actually start when you want to. You can start on that

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Saturday, people will be starting within a few hours of each other. So

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we might spend a lot of the race on our own but might be around other

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boats and in terms of being competitive, we are planning on just

:34:30.:34:34.

finishing. Finishing will be a massive achievement. However, my

:34:35.:34:37.

competitive instinct tends to kick in whenever there is another crew

:34:38.:34:48.

around. I am going to have to try to rerein myself in. Have you got the

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hang of it, being an Olympic champion you would think you would

:34:53.:34:55.

be very good in a boat like that. And she is. After two weeks of

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training she was where I would expect someone to be after a year or

:35:00.:35:04.

even more of training. Now she's at a remarkable level. But our longest

:35:05.:35:08.

training session has been five-and-a-half hours. That's such a

:35:09.:35:11.

tiny percentage of the race. We don't know what's going to happen at

:35:12.:35:16.

3am when we are cold and hungry and tired. I think she's going to be

:35:17.:35:19.

amazing but you never know. What is it like to be doing this as a

:35:20.:35:23.

couple? We saw you there in the gym. Brilliant training partners, the

:35:24.:35:26.

pair of you, really fit. You must have a great time. It's good fun.

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But I think that we are probably going to see a true side of each

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other in the middle of the night when you have been paddling, you are

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absolutely kind of on your last legs and still have hours to go. It will

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be interesting. Come on, you are obsessed with each other, it's

:35:43.:35:45.

lovely to see! It is lovely to see. There is a good

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reason why you are doing this and it's not just about bringing the

:35:49.:35:52.

pair of you together. Exactly. I have been working with a charity

:35:53.:35:56.

called The World Land Trust, and we buy up vulnerable portions of forest

:35:57.:36:00.

and protect them and what we are doing is, we are going to buy a

:36:01.:36:05.

slice of a rainforest in Borneo and if we don't buy it, it will get cut

:36:06.:36:13.

down for plantations, it's a vital patch of forest. The opportunity to

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buy and protect this land is just enormous. So, that's a big part of

:36:19.:36:22.

the reason we were going we need to do something massive to try and get

:36:23.:36:26.

the attention and get the cash rolling in and it has been. I think

:36:27.:36:29.

it's going to be a massive success. Obviously you need the money but

:36:30.:36:32.

when do you hope to get your hands on it then, what's the plan? It

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needs to be done before August. Really the main, the target of the

:36:38.:36:41.

fundraising is now, it's because the place is such a fantastic wildlife

:36:42.:36:45.

corridor. It's a perfect place for animals to disperse. By purchasing

:36:46.:36:49.

this area of land and protecting it we are really saving it for all the

:36:50.:36:52.

animals that live there. Well, before you go we are going to look

:36:53.:36:56.

at that moment where you were in tears in Rio. Let's have a look at

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it. To me this sums it all up. Obviously, trying to retain that

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title. Helen means so much to everybody and family and that

:37:08.:37:10.

sacrifice. I love the fact it was captured. Often you don't see that

:37:11.:37:13.

finish line reaction from friends and family. Like you say, they see

:37:14.:37:18.

you at your worst through the hard times and so, I love the fact... She

:37:19.:37:23.

loves the fact it was captured because she is talking about it

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endlessly! Aren't we all. Quickly before you go, Dave, are you there?

:37:28.:37:32.

We have some night vision goggles. Here you are. Thank you! I am sure

:37:33.:37:36.

there will be tears of joy in your eyes again, Steve. Bring it on. We

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wish you all the very best. We will keep everyone up to date with you

:37:46.:37:50.

how you get on. OK. From their challenge to a challenge that we

:37:51.:37:53.

have going on here outside. Feast your eyes on this. This is Europe's

:37:54.:38:00.

biggest inflatable obstacle course. It is indeed. This section is the

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danger zone, it has slides, a wall and hanging things. It's one section

:38:05.:38:08.

of the course that it ten pieces in total. When fully assembled it

:38:09.:38:14.

measures a whopping five kilometres from start to finish. We did ask

:38:15.:38:19.

Fern and Pearl and Sharleen to take part in this but they all said we

:38:20.:38:23.

have somebody better that can do it for us. We all know some talented

:38:24.:38:26.

people. Fern, let's start with you at the end. Who have you asked? This

:38:27.:38:33.

is Joel, he has better hair than anybody, better muscles and on

:38:34.:38:38.

Easter Monday he is doing the world coal carrying championships. He is

:38:39.:38:45.

carrying 250 kilo sacks of coal which is heavier than he is. I am

:38:46.:38:55.

thinking he is a strong contender. Pearl, who have you asked? I have

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Petrica Catalina taking part in the Hedley Barrel Race on Monday. I am

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going to be there on Monday doing the barrel race. We have agility on

:39:09.:39:12.

our side. We have speed. I think we are going to do this. Definitely

:39:13.:39:20.

will do. Sharleen, we can see. We are a team. We are actually a team.

:39:21.:39:27.

That's why we - we talked tactics. I did the obstacle course. I fell off

:39:28.:39:36.

and hurt my ankle! Did you get a chocolate egg, because that's the

:39:37.:39:40.

whole idea? I didn't. If I could ask the team captains to step to the

:39:41.:39:43.

side and at the end of the course there is a chocolate egg. It's the

:39:44.:39:50.

first one to pick up the chocolate egg who will receive this

:39:51.:39:56.

wonderful... Come on! There you are, are you ready? OK. In three, two,

:39:57.:40:05.

one, go for it! Angela's taken a stormer. Joel's

:40:06.:40:10.

gone for it. I can't keep up. Joel's through, he is up the ladder! That's

:40:11.:40:17.

how you win an Easter egg hunt. All the way down. He looks behind him,

:40:18.:40:26.

where is everyone else? Hang on a minute! Unbelievable! We were going

:40:27.:40:34.

to ask to you get the egg of your t-shirt. The thing is Joel's colour

:40:35.:40:44.

blind. Joel takes it. There you are. Joel and Fern, huge congratulations.

:40:45.:40:56.

I didn't hear that! I have the golden egg. Are you all right,

:40:57.:41:04.

Angela? It was a good race. If you fancy having a go at this giant

:41:05.:41:07.

obstacle course you can, it's on tour all around the UK. You can also

:41:08.:41:12.

sign up to do it for Children in Need which is always a great cause,

:41:13.:41:20.

by going to bbc.co.uk/Pudsey. And then there was calm. I will do this

:41:21.:41:26.

while Angela gets her breath back. Kate McIntyre has gone

:41:27.:41:28.

window-shopping, not to look at clothes, just the dummies wearing

:41:29.:41:37.

them. Mannequins, for some they're the

:41:38.:41:41.

stuff of nightmares. Think of them in Doctor Who and it's not hard to

:41:42.:41:45.

see why. But back in the real world they've been stirring things up too.

:41:46.:41:55.

The average UK dress size is a 16. But last week this line-up of

:41:56.:42:01.

superskinny mannequins opened up the debate about body image again. Roz

:42:02.:42:06.

runs a supply business and has an extensive collection from over the

:42:07.:42:11.

years. The first mannequins were people themselves. They would stand

:42:12.:42:15.

in for dress-making and then it worked on that people would make

:42:16.:42:20.

them out of papier mache and wax. When did we first see them on high

:42:21.:42:25.

streets? Around about 1920s. They came in when clothes started to be

:42:26.:42:31.

more mass produced. When did the shape of female mannequins change?

:42:32.:42:33.

They've always had different shapes to them if they're catering for a

:42:34.:42:38.

younger market, they're going to be a different shape. For ladies

:42:39.:42:42.

considered plus-size, bigger sizes, they don't really have faces any

:42:43.:42:47.

more. They've become more of a clothes horse, rather than a

:42:48.:42:50.

representation of an actual person. Why do we only see skinny

:42:51.:42:56.

mannequins? Because they're a size that is easy for samples to be made.

:42:57.:43:00.

Every now and then you do get a very, very skinny mannequin that is

:43:01.:43:05.

the proportions which are not even artistic. That's because they're

:43:06.:43:10.

cheap mannequins, they've not been made by an established manufacturer

:43:11.:43:14.

and there are copies of a copy of a copy. Most female mannequins we see

:43:15.:43:19.

in shops today are typically a size 8-10. So what will shoppers in

:43:20.:43:24.

Nottingham make of these body shapes? Not very realistic and not a

:43:25.:43:28.

good image. I have a three-year-old girl at home and I am trying to

:43:29.:43:32.

teach her to have a positive body image. I feel if they had bigger

:43:33.:43:36.

mannequins, maybe bigger people would have an idea of what the

:43:37.:43:39.

clothes would look like on them. We are all used to seeing the slim

:43:40.:43:44.

mannequins. That one seems unusual. You don't usually see a rounder

:43:45.:43:48.

figure. Unusual because it's closer to the average woman? Yeah. You

:43:49.:43:54.

never see a short person mannequins. What effect do you think the super

:43:55.:43:59.

skinny mannequin will have on young shoppers looking for clothes? Not

:44:00.:44:02.

great obviously, because this is the shape you should be to wear our

:44:03.:44:05.

clothes, they might feel they can't wear something that they feel good

:44:06.:44:07.

in. So, if some customers are getting

:44:08.:44:11.

offended it sounds as though the shops must be doing something wrong.

:44:12.:44:15.

Yeah, definitely. They're not being styled properly. The correct

:44:16.:44:19.

mannequin is not being used. It's all about displaying the clothes in

:44:20.:44:24.

the best way, showing off those sample sizes and showing people how

:44:25.:44:27.

to style clothes who really don't have an idea of how to style clothes

:44:28.:44:37.

themselves. I look at the clothes. I would buy a mannequin if I could.

:44:38.:44:43.

I have never been a big fan of mannequins. Have you? I like them.

:44:44.:44:49.

LAUGHTER . I wish I was one right there. I am

:44:50.:44:54.

still out of breath. I need to go to the gym more! Shoving, is it right

:44:55.:45:01.

that your mum was a window dresser? She was. Did you have dummies in

:45:02.:45:10.

your house? We had a few dummies are now has! We used to come in from

:45:11.:45:15.

school and my mum would be like, we are making flowers, paper flowers or

:45:16.:45:19.

pom-poms or whatever. When it comes to Christmas decorating, I am a dab

:45:20.:45:24.

hand. Nicer grow up with that creativity. It is good. My sister

:45:25.:45:32.

and I used to get dragged in. My mum still teaches us and the grandkids.

:45:33.:45:35.

My mum taught me how to crochet about a month ago. Fern, you have

:45:36.:45:42.

two young daughters, grace and Winnie - do you find that body image

:45:43.:45:49.

is an issue you have to talk about? They are very well aware of it all.

:45:50.:45:54.

They are very good. Although the weekly ladies magazines are full of

:45:55.:45:58.

that nonsense, they read them but knowing it is nonsense. And of

:45:59.:46:02.

course, they love doing all that shopping and looking at things. One

:46:03.:46:06.

is nearly 16 and one is 19, nearly 20, so they are getting on now. But

:46:07.:46:11.

they have got brains and they understand, but that doesn't mean to

:46:12.:46:17.

say... There are moments when they go, IAA lug really terrible and I am

:46:18.:46:21.

having a bad day and none of my clothes Fitbit. That awful female

:46:22.:46:38.

thing. -- none of my clothes fit me. It is about keeping it real. It is a

:46:39.:46:42.

mannequin. Some of them are six feet tall. You're looking at them, and I

:46:43.:46:46.

don't know that many people who at that height. And I think that as

:46:47.:46:50.

parents, we need to impress on them that they are gorgeous. They can do

:46:51.:46:54.

anything they want and they are gorgeous. Your daughter, does she

:46:55.:46:58.

enjoy your music? You've got this new album coming out. I think she's

:46:59.:47:07.

very proud. She came along and saw as showcase that we did last week.

:47:08.:47:12.

She was smiling. I think she likes the guest list places that I can get

:47:13.:47:15.

her, if I'm really honest! I think she's more into that. She is into

:47:16.:47:24.

Kei pop. I am a bit confused by what she says to me sometimes. That is

:47:25.:47:32.

happening just now. Jump On Board - 30 years you have been writing, so

:47:33.:47:35.

is it hard to come up with fresh themes? You know what, you meet so

:47:36.:47:40.

many interesting people, and I enjoy life. Fern has known me for a

:47:41.:47:47.

million years. Bee did you say I have been around for 1 million

:47:48.:47:55.

years? And me! -- did you say I have been around for 1 million years?

:47:56.:48:05.

People and stories, it keeps filling you. Do you keep stories on the back

:48:06.:48:14.

burner for the time when you are making an album? You never know when

:48:15.:48:18.

you will access it. Sometimes stories come to light and you are

:48:19.:48:22.

like, I forgot about that, and it comes out in a song. Sometimes, when

:48:23.:48:28.

a song comes out, one of your mates will be like, is that about me? And

:48:29.:48:34.

I am like, here we go. You wish it was about you! So you will be

:48:35.:48:38.

touring the album and you will be on stage for a very significant

:48:39.:48:43.

birthday. I am. We play Paris on my 50th. I am 50 this year. That's

:48:44.:48:48.

great. Do you think that is good planning? Yes! It would be, but we

:48:49.:48:55.

are doing three nights in Paris, and I am on the first night, which I

:48:56.:49:00.

thought was really bad planning. Maybe I could do three parties. Just

:49:01.:49:07.

keep it going. Will the tour be a family affair? Bryn Williams,

:49:08.:49:11.

recently engaged, what have you... Look at me, I will start blushing in

:49:12.:49:16.

a minute! At my age! I got engaged recently. Yeah, first time I have

:49:17.:49:22.

been engaged in first time I will be married. And he is a share. Years

:49:23.:49:28.

indeed. When we go on tour, if there are any breaks, I am sure all of our

:49:29.:49:35.

friends and family will come out for the big old birthday. Fern, you are

:49:36.:49:42.

also married to a chef, do you have any advice? They are temperamental

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creatures, aren't they? I think it's just... Always like what they have

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cooked for you, whether you like it or not. If he says, do you like it,

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do you like it? I do most of the cooking. It is a family thing. Foot

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is important in the house, so you cook together and eat together. It

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is a nice thing to do. What about me?

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I don't think you would be short of offers! So you will be on tour...

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We're right on the road. We are playing the Albert Hall. We're doing

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some festivals. I want to say the 17th of September for the Albert

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Hall, and we have three nights in Glasgow, playing at Kelvingrove

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Park. Doing the Isle of Wight Festival, we're doing Chris's cart

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biased -- car Fest. The album is out on the 21st of April. Before Texas

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perform for us, we will do some gardening. Why not? We have done

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everything else tonight. The speaker in the House of Commons Betty

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Boothroyd brought order to Parliament until she left for

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pastures new. Christine has been to see the garden she has no intention

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of bringing to order. This is an informal garden, and one

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that is slightly disjointed, and bearing in mind who the owner is, I

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am slightly surprised. Order! Betty Boothroyd certainly did not like

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this order in the Commons. It is 25 years since she became the first and

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only female speaker, a post she held for eight years. We're in the middle

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of Cambridgeshire, in a beautiful wild garden, but it is wild, and

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that surprises me. Are you a keen gardener? You have the right word

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when you say while. I'm a wild garden, lovely. I have a point of

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order... I really should address you as Lady Boothroyd, but I have got a

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cheeky question. May I call you Betty? Of course, most people do. I

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find it very odd to be called baroness. Lady is a bit much too.

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When I first came here about 30 years ago, I thought, what will I do

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with this area? I had a few beds around the house, but all of this

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was just grass and fields, so I thought, let's add daffodils. I

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really feel that there are a lot of clubs are around -- clumps around

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that have been here a long time. I am very good at delegating

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responsibility. Are you aware, there are over 85 different species? And

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over 29,000 different varieties? I thought you meant in my garden here.

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You have a lot, but not quite that many! There is one special one,

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isn't there are? There is, actually. It is a Madam Speaker daffodil.

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There you are, named after you. It is described as robust, standing up

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to the elements, admired by most people. If you are going to ask me

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where it is, your eyes are better than mine. It might have been and

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gone. I think it has. With or without daffodils, I doubt this

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rambling landscape has changed in hundreds of years, longer I suspect

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then the 13th century house. Betty has barbed wire right across the

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garden. Trespassers must be a problem. What is this about?

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Rabbits, deer, which will eat anything, and moles. Do you have

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much experience of gardening? Is not at all, because I was born in a poor

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family. I went and picked dandelions, put them in a vase. And

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my mother said, what is that? She was not chuffed at all. I have

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always liked flowers, always been interested in gardening but I was

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never brought up with it. Betty was an only child, and the family lived

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in a back-to-back in a Yorkshire mill town. Her parents were textile

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workers, but her father was unemployed for years. Yellow might I

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thought, there's something better than this in life. We have to make

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changes. -- I thought, there's something better than this in life.

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It was a long one, actually. The name of the candidate elected is

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Betty Boothroyd. It took me 13, 15 years, because I fought four

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elections before being selected for West Bromwich in 1973. I just felt,

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well, this is really something, this is my destiny, what I want to do.

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You have the reputation of being a bit of a bossy boots - was that

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there? I don't think so. I think I'm a softy! Order! The honourable

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gentleman will resume his seat immediately. Immediately! It do you

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think you had more control in the Commons than you do over your

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garden? That's for sure. I can control human beings but not

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wildlife. Some people don't like the rambling nature of a woodland

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garden. As Betty would say, in this world, the eyes have it.

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Thank you to all of our guests this evening. You can see Fern's journey

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on Friday morning, and Doctor Who starts on Saturday night, both on

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