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Hello, welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker... And Alex Jones. It

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goes without saying that our guest this evening is a legend of both TV

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and radio. Such a legend that he refuses to go anywhere without

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having his own jingle performed in person.

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# It's coming up to seven at the BBC # Make your cups of tea

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# Sir Terry Wogan is on The One Show #

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What about that? A beautiful arrival. My radio producer

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discovered them on the street, singing like a dream. They have had

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success ever tense, despite my efforts. They are a big part of your

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life now. It must we a nightmare for you, in the supermarket, about two

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Saint on the 18th? I don't let them put me off. It can get a bit crowded

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in the bedroom... Too much, over the line! I meant the instruments.Are

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you still busking at Portobello Road? Not so much. Fame has change

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them. You are in the Albert Hall shortly? When I praise somebody, it

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is normally the kiss of death, but congratulations. As farmers across

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the country bring in the harvest, you might think that the uproar over

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genetically modified crops is something that has withered and

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died. You could be wrong. A GM wheat crop has been quietly growing in a

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died. You could be wrong. A GM wheat field in Hertfordshire all summer

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long. Supporters of the technique are not giving up on their quest to

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convince as it is safe. We are going to look at some of the products on

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convince as it is safe. We are going the shelves that contain GM food.

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They are already there. You wouldn't know, looking at the bottle. First,

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GM supporter Adam Rutherford. As I drive through the rolling

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countryside, you would be drive through the rolling

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for thinking how wonderfully natural it all is. But what does natural

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mean? This beautiful countryside is the result of thousands of years of

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very elaborate manipulation by us to suit our own needs. If you think

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about it, farming is the exact opposite of natural. Every hedgerow

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and field, everything has been tampered with to maximise

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productivity. To continue to optimise food production across the

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world, I think genetic modification, or GM, is a good option. It is a

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technique that changes a crop or animal at a genetic level by

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introducing genes from something else. Scientists have already used

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it to create herbicide tolerant corn, insect resistant soya bean and

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virus resistant papaya. However, GM foods are highly controversial. In

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the UK, no GM crops can be grown commercially. This field is growing

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genetically modified wheat as part of a scientific experiment. What is

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your experiment here? This is an experiment to test an idea. The idea

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is, can we make wheat plants defend themselves against insects like

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green fly and blackfly to save themselves against insects like

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spraying insecticides? What do they have that battlefield over there

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doesn't? They have an extra gene which gives them capacity to make a

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smell. It is an alarm signal that greenfly and backsliding of light.

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The gene is taken from a peppermint plant that has been fired directly

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into the DNA of a wheat seed, which latches on, telling it to produce

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the smell that deters greenfly. The research station has been studying

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the science behind farming for 170 years. It is funded, for the most

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part, by the government. It is exploring the potential that genetic

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modification has two other. Scientists here think that one day

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this new wheat will mean that farmers may need to use less

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insecticide. They are letting me get hands-on with the tests. These are

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the plans that have the greenfly on them? The greenfly are motionless.

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Watch what happens next. This smell is like an air raid siren. As soon

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as the droplet lands, they scurry to get away from it. Some of them even

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jump of belief. This work has provoked protests calling for the

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outdoor trials to stop. Opponents worry that outdoor field test like

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this could taint nearby non-GM crops when seeds are blown in the wind.

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How can you guarantee that the experimental gene, not just here,

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but then the rest of the world, will not end up in the environment? It is

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a fair point that particular genes I'd have a toxic effect. There does

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need to be a risk assessment. There is little danger from the pollen

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escaping into other fields. Even if it did, this gene is found in lots

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of other plans, including edible plants like hops and potatoes. GM

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crops are the most highly regulated food type that we eat. This trial

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here, the only one in Great Britain, you are absolutely confident it is

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safe? Absolutely.However thrilling I might find this, there are others

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in the scientific community that are more sceptical. Andy Stilling is a

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professor of science and technology policy at Sussex University. He

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feels that GM is not the only answer to future food shortages. Being

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sceptical is what makes science so successful. What I worry about is

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when we are not sceptical and we get too credulous about new technology,

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and don't look at the alternatives. I think we are being forced in a

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very unhealthy debate. It is very polarised, for or against. As of the

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only way of applying science is GM, which is fault. -- false. And the

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only solution to food production is GM, which is also false. Involving

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farmers in the production process is much better at producing food well,

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especially in developing countries. Following a visit here, the

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especially in developing countries. Environment Secretary Owen Paterson

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has spoken in favour of genetic modification. In the USA, where GM

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food has been widely grown for over a decade, it is estimated that

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trillions of meals have been eaten. Some of the field trials have had

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mixed results, some good and some bad. Biology is messy like that. But

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I feel this should not stop us bad. Biology is messy like that. But

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experimenting further with genetic modification. In my opinion, the

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advantages massively outweighed the problems.

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The Environment Secretary, Owen Paterson, he agrees with him. But

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you have some of the counterarguments? One of the first

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things with UK consumers is that they have always been a bit scared

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of GM food. The first product in the 1960s, the flavour savoury tomato,

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that did not go down well. They talk about Frankenstein foods. They say,

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they are changing the DNA of the plans, will it do the same to me?

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The pro-GM people would say that is rubbish, there is no evidence and

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trillions of meals have been saved in the US with GM ingredients and

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there is no evidence anyone has become ill as a result. We do

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actually have some products on UK supermarket shells that have GM

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ingredients. I have my camera here. You would like that motto of oil,

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you wouldn't even think about it? Can you see this genetically

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modified soya. It has to be labelled by law, that is one of the

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stipulations if you use GM ingredients. That means

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stipulations if you use GM genetically modified soya crop that

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is herbicide tolerant. Use spray the crop, the plant thrives and the

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weeds die. That is one example. All of the big UK supermarkets, with the

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exception of Waitrose, have come out and said that they can no longer

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tell you, guarantee, that poultry is GM free because the animal may have

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been fed GM feed. We import a lot of it. That is a new development. There

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are products that we do eat that have GM ingredients. You can avoid

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it by buying something that is labelled

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it by buying something that is in the UK does not accept GM

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ingredients or animal feed. There in the UK does not accept GM

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this mutant crops debate, cross pollination? The This is one of the

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things that anti-GM campaigners get riled up about. We know that plans

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will grow wherever they can. What is to stop that field cross pollinating

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with an organic field or wild plants? Then you have this spread of

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GM material. They also worry about super weeds. Weeds that are very

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resistant and we can't get rid of them. The other thing that people

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worry about is channelling power into the hands of a small number of

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corporations that own the patents for GM technology. In the developing

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world, farmers save seed. They would not be able to with GM, they would

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need to buy a license. I think your last point is the most valid. In the

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hands of corporations. You don't want that. I think there is a point

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to be made about it. I'm not all that happy about the chicken. But I

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think, you know, when man came out of the primeval slime all of those

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years ago, nature spent its time trying to kill him. It is only

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because mankind's ingenuity modified crops, berries and fruits, that we

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are here. That we were able to eat. So, you know, I'm not going to say

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that GM, or modifying crop particularly as bad. It can help,

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there is a lot of starvation in the world. If you can bring in more

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crops, more food, and GM can do that, it is fine. Thank you very

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much. You may have seen the images of the world 's most expensive foot

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all play a Gareth Bale meeting his new team-mate, renowned though, as

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all play a Gareth Bale meeting his he settles in at Real Madrid. Our

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boys from the valleys usually that well groomed? I am proud of Gareth,

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he put his fake tan on first. Here is Ruth on the story of perhaps the

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best foot all the UK has produced, who left home at a much more tender

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age. In this house in Aycliffe Avenue in

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Manchester lived a man regarded as a genius of the beautiful game. The

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Manchester lived a man regarded as a Belfast boy known as Besty had the

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world at his feet and his name remains in football legend to this

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day. He went on to become one of the red 's most legendary players here,

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at Old Trafford. He played in nearly 500 games and he scored almost 200

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goals. But his journey here from Northern Ireland was far from easy.

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Born into a Protestant household in 1946, George was the first of six

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children. His father, worked in a local shipyard. His mother worked in

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a local tobacco factory. Times were hard, but he was already showing

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signs of sporting genius. He was remarkable from an early age, no

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matter what he did. When he was 15 months old, his dad saw him kick a

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ball and knew that he had something. He would continue to show promise on

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the football pitch and he won a scholarship to grow the high grammar

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school. But his uniform clearly labelled him at a Protestant on his

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daily walk through catholic areas of an increasingly divided Belfast.

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There were times when he was picked on. But the biggest problem was that

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they didn't play football and he was just devastated. So, George left and

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went on to pursue his foot wall dreams at the local secondary

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modern, until he was spotted by a talent scout by Manchester United.

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But leaving Belfast at the tender age of 15 would take its toll on his

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family. It was as if someone had died. Mum was beside herself with

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grief. They hugged each other and just cried. Young George himself was

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feeling the pressure. He had been invited to try out for the youth

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team. Later, in his autobiography, he wrote that when he arrived at Old

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Trafford and first met his team-mates they seemed enormous. I

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suddenly felt frightened and a long way from home. But George would find

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comfort with his new landlady at Aycliffe Avenue. She was a surrogate

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mother to him. He loved her to bits. She treated him like her own son. He

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had a vulnerability about him that made you want to take care of him.

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You feel like you want to protect made you want to take care of him.

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him and look after him. At 17 he signed up to go professional. By the

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mid-60s he was Manchester United's star player. What a player this boy

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is! He's got another! Soon, the sponsorship deals came rolling in

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with the goals. But the fame and success of the young Protestant

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with the goals. But the fame and from Belfast caused hassle for his

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family back home. We had a couple of death threats against him at one

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point. They would not let him travel death threats against him at one

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on the team coach and I had to pick him up. The threat on his life,

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on the team coach and I had to pick allegedly from the IRA, it did bring

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added convocations. Mum and dad would have been desperately

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worried. We could never understand why. We were brought up in our

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particular faith, but we were brought up to respect everybody.

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The British Army arrived to quell tensions between either side of the

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divide. George's Fain would have a knock-on effect on his family. we

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had to sit with the blinds closed for privacy. It made us angry.As

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the 60s came to an end, the fortune of Manchester United and their

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golden boy began to fade. He left them in 1974 and became as

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well-known for his trunking as he did for his foot tall. He died, aged

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just 59, in 2005. George Best, the world's best winger, and Northern

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Ireland most famous son. It is so tragic. A great loss.You

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interviewed him in 1990. When you do a talk show, and you have probably

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experienced this, you are always remembered for the ones that do not

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work. You are never remembered for, that was a fantastic interview. They

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will remember Michael Parkinson for being strangled by e-mail you. And

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they will remember all sorts of people for the wrong things, and

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able remember me for George Best. A wonderful footballer, a lovely guy,

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a nice fellow. And just maybe having one drink too many. He was trying to

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send me up, just trying to joke with me, really. But he did not mean any

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harm. There was no harm in that man. He was just a nice, gentle fellow.

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What was he like after the interview? The on-screen stuff is

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different. He was appearing with Omar Sharif. Luckily for him, Omar

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Sharif was on first. And then we went up to hospitality. George had

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been taken away to a quiet spot. I said to Omar Sharif, I am terribly

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been taken away to a quiet spot. I sorry about all this. He said, all

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of my friends are like that. Nobody minded. We had about 8 million

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viewers. But it seemed as if the entire country had seen it, because

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it made all the newspapers. It was saddening, and his loss and his

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death, for a great footballer, so sad. You pioneered the 7pm chat show

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slot. We would not be here if it were not for you. I am not taking

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slot. We would not be here if it the blame! Of all of the things that

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you have done, radio, game shows, how did Wogan fit into that, and how

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did that slot fit in? I was too young to realise how apprehensive I

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should be about it, as you should he. Nobody does live television,

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really. We used to have countless Americans on. Half the time, they

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did not realise it was live. Anne Bancroft came on. They do not do

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live TV in the States. She came on, walking across the stage towards me,

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and she was counting. Whether she was counting the step 's, or her

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heartbeat, I do not know. She came on and went into a catatonic trance.

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We had one of those with Bruce Willis. We can sympathise. I think

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she was upset because we showed pictures of her in her bra. That

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will do it. And you showed pictures of Bruce in his underwear. We did,

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exactly the same excavation mark of Bruce in his underwear. We did,

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since last Friday we have seen eight out of 12 inspirational people that

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make up the nominees for People's Portrait. Tonight, Simon Baron

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Cohen, and an old friend of Sir Terry's Esther Rantzen. On Friday,

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you can choose which will have their picture painted and hung in the

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National Portrait Gallery. Keep your eyes peeled for a dinner suited

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gentleman. Simon Baron Cohen, the UK's leading

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psychologist, specialising in autism. Every moment we are with

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other people, we are interacting, sending out and receiving subtle

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signals. Most of us are so good at it that we do it automatically, like

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breathing. Some people, such as those with autism, never fully

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develop these skills. Those with autism can find it very difficult to

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interact with others, but through his work and campaigning, Simon

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Baron Cohen has instilled a sense of community and pride. He is a great

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academic and a brilliant man, but he still cares about all of the

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different people with a condition and genuinely loves the people he is

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try to help. He has shown that autism can be associated

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try to help. He has shown that extreme intelligence, gifted Lublin

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solving, artistic ability. Students in mathematics have a higher rate of

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autism compared to students in other subjects. In many ways, it is just a

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different way of seeing the world. Now, as the director of Cambridge

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University's autism research Centre, he has been developing new

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methods for diagnosing and treating autistic traits. Everybody applauds

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sports stars, actors and politicians and we think that is what the world

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is about. People like Simon Hart changing the world, changing

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people's opinions. Those are the people who should be applauded.

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Simon Baron Cohen has dedicated his life to this often misunderstood

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condition. People with autism are different, but that is not

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necessarily a bad thing. Esther Rantzen, a factual, fearless

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and fun loving broadcaster. An impressive career, spanning 45

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years. Esther Rantzen has fronted some of the most popular shows on

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the BBC, most notably That's Life, an eclectic fusion of consumer

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protection and heart-warming tales. Brandy, that will do me the world of

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good. That was whiskey! She was not afraid of stirring up mischief. I

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have been arrested. She is a strong woman in Amman's world. Her ability

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to recognise issues saw her create a ground-breaking organisation that

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has changed the lives of 1.5 million children in the UK. Childline. 4000

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people have written to say they will help us with our survey into cruelty

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people have written to say they will to children. She stood up and said,

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I have a letter I would like to read. For the first time, I saw her

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cry. This was an insight into somebody who obviously cares deeply

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about children. What really makes her stand out is not just her work

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for charity but her quick-witted humour and her skill to engage with

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everyone she meets. She is remarkable, as a woman. Esther

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Rantzen's passion is as fervent as ever. She was the original

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campaigning journalist, with an instinctive feel for popular taste.

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She gave the voice of the people a stage, pioneered ideas and

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ultimately turned them into solid reality. Tomorrow we hear about the

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final nominees before the voting opens. Ike macro if you would like

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to take a look at all 12, you can go to the website. In her

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autobiography, Esther Rantzen claims that you auditioned to be one of her

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boys. Can we confirm this? Though I that you auditioned to be one of her

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hate to contradict... I hate to contradict as grand a figure as

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Esther Rantzen, but no. I know it was the beginning of Jeremy

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Paxman's career, wasn't it? She must have mixed you up. Easy enough. You

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are getting involved in Macmillan's world 's biggest coffee morning. I

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am delighted to help, obviously, because all of us know how terrible

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cancer can be, and probably all of us know somebody who has suffered

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from cancer. And the biggest ever coffee morning last year, when they

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had at the first time, 5 million people drank a cup of coffee and

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obviously gave an average of £3, because they made £15 million out of

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that. If everybody gives £5 this time, it is £25 million. That is my

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training in the bank! So it is Macmillan Cancer support. The

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important thing that they are trying to get people to understand is that

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you do not have two have cancer alone. Try to have people around

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you. I have a good example of a smashing girl called Anne Marie, who

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is in the RAF and contracted cervical cancer. She keeps trying to

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say, get high nosed, have a checkup and then maybe something can be

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done. She put me on her bucket list, which is what people do before they

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think they are going to pass on. She came to my radio show. She is a

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pretty, wonderful girl. That was part of her bucket. I got a letter

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back from her saying that after original treatment she was unlucky.

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She thought because she was healthy and fit it would not come back, but

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it did. Anyway, she is back in hospital, because she took a turn

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for the worse after the interview on the radio. But she is still

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pursuing. She is going to hit Route 66. She is going to be on the back

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of a Harley Davidson en Route 66. She went to the last night of the

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Proms and then came across to the Proms in the park in Hyde Park. She

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Proms and then came across to the is making it count. We know that she

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is watching and she called you a hunk. Which, to be honest, you are

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looking really fit at the moment. That comment is going to go down in

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history! That is like somebody saying, you are looking well, you

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were a bit fact the last time. You have some fans who have gone an

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extra mile. This man had this done on his leg.

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That is a tattooed? What a man! What an idiot. How dare you? ! He is a

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fine fellow. Have another one on your back. Can I just say, thank you

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for all the help for children in need, which is on the 15th of

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November. And you are going to be in pyjamas, as we hope most of the

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country will be before they go to work. Go to work in your pyjamas.

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There has to be a rickshaw challenge. It is going to start in

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Northern Ireland and go all the way around the country. And we are

:27:36.:27:38.

hoping to raise... It was around the country. And we are

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million on that night. We will do around the country. And we are

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all again. Thank you. And thank you to the fabulous Sugar Sisters as

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well. Weekend Wogan is back on Sunday at 11am. The world 's biggest

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copy morning is on Friday the 27th of seven Ember. The details will be

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on the website. Chris and I will be here tomorrow with Sting. And I can

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show him this! We leave you with the Sugar Sisters. Good night.

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Summer, 2013, one of the warmest and sunniest on record, juror in which

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people revelled in 528 hours of glorious sunshine. For some, the

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void left by the Olympics was a worry but there was no need for

:28:35.:28:43.

concern. England's cricketers retained the Ashes. And we packed

:28:43.:28:50.

our bags and went live from across the country. We are on the beach and

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everyone is here! While we left London, others

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into welcome the new prints. And viewers had a happy and exciting

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summer, too. It really has been the viewers had a happy and exciting

:29:17.:29:24.

most amazing summer.

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