12/09/2014 The One Show

On the nights One Show, live at the Invictus Games with Prince Harry. We

visit a gigantic greenhouse. Lou macro we will give these to a chance

to avenge the biggest nemesis of their Spandau Ballet career. We

forgot to mention it, sorry. What? THEME MUSIC

And here they are, come on. CHEERING Spandau Ballet. On the sofa. Yeah,

looking very smart, both of you. What was the biggest failure of your

musical career? Back in the 80s? Come on, you know what it was. Pop

Quiz. Yes it was, beaten by Duran Duran on Pop Quiz, your archrivals,

1984 and let's go back to the moment. CHEERING

APPLAUSE Thank you very much and good night.

That wink, it still hurts? , yes, it hurts watching it, there is a

terrible cold moment, let's see it from the movie. Well, we can relive

the moment because Mike Reid is here with us, how about that? Welcome to

the show, Mike Reid. Great to have you here. Lovely. Look at this! You

all right? Pop Quiz, I mean, tea-time on Saturday nights, how

many viewers did you get? We got 10 million every week. 10 million every

week? ! You are just warming up. It was great fun, it was. It was a

different habitat, you were not being interviewed and you are not

performing. It was like, this is out of your comfort zone. Was this the

biggest battle you ever had, Spandau Ballet and Duran Duran? Going back

to the 60s, it was like the Rolling Stones against the Beatles, the real

problem was that the editors because every time they opened their

mouths, the place was screamed down. It was, how do I get to do the

score, it was impossible! Did you have as much fun at the words as you

did on screen, you were hanging out afterwards? It depends what you were

doing, I remember I was stopped on the Kings Road at three o'clock on

the morning run... It was never just two bands, it was a mixture. That

was the only time we did a band against a band against the band. We

had people like Maurice E, people you would not normally get on. These

two claimed they knew the answer is, after the fact, but they were just a

stunt, the same questions tonight and we have a buzzer, but if you get

the question wrong we will show this photograph as many times as we can.

LAUGHTER If you get it right, you're OK. So,

who is going to be Duran Duran? There is no Duran, Duran. If you

have ever struggled with your tomato plants at home we may have found a

solution. It turns out you need a huge sugar factory and a giant

greenhouse, how do you say this... Ricky Andalcio... Went to Norfolk to

get the ingredients for the perfect ketchup. We produce millions of

tonnes of sugar every year using home-grown sugar beet, but making it

is not a simple process, it takes a huge amount of energy with a lot of

wasted heat. Normally there is no use for that excess heat and one

sugar factory in Norfolk is doing things very different way, using it

to grow 140 million tomatoes. DRAMATIC MUSIC slap bang next to the

sugar factory this massive greenhouse covers nearly 45 acres,

or about 25 football pitches. So how are you growing so many, because I

have only managed to grow one in my greenhouse this year? We are able to

take the heat and the carbon dioxide from the sugar factory and pump it

into here. And it actually adds about doubled the yield. It's the

carbon dioxide which gives you the double yield. And the heat, we need

both of them. These are sweet, because of the fresheners? They are

fresh, because we are in the UK we are able to get these tomatoes to

the store in a day or two, whereby, if it was imported it would still be

on a boat before it got onto your plate. If you put it in the fridge,

it is OK. Absolute be not, you need to put it into the fruit bowl. The

staff here formed as part of the workforce which includes eight and

half thousand very busy bees. They pollinate 10,000 flowers every day,

and they managed to keep the white fly at bay. You need a head for

heights to work it because these are super sized tomato plants. Wow. This

is amazing. It is a hell of a view. As we get to the top we are going to

drop the plant. They are at the right height for picking the

tomatoes, simple as that. Time to get back to what I know, cooking and

what could be better than my special ketchup? Having tomatoes like this

just picked from the vine today, I mean what could be better? You can

add your own spices, I have used lots of different flavours. I am

throwing in cinnamon, tomato puree, clothes, basil, and red wine

vinegar. Look at that, lovely! After being pure raid and passed through

the sieve, it is ready to serve, as easy as that. Your very own

ketchup. I wonder if anybody fancies a burger? There you go guys, I know

you're on your lunch break, you might want to try some of that.

Dramatic music right guys, you're tomatoes, my recipe, what is the

music. Both are fantastic. Cannot ask for more, I will get stuck in

myself. STUDIO: That ketchup is off the scale. It is very sweet. Isn't

it, it is like a meal in itself. And the recipe is on the website. It is

lovely. I like brown sauce. We were going to ask you about this but we

didn't have time. A thing-macro now we can go live to the Invictus Games

where Prince Harry and his mates are about to take part in a game of

Murderball. It is electric, it is like 2012, Sir Clive Woodward is one

of the managers, and on the other team, you have Jonny Wilkinson, Mike

Tindall is here. Prince Harry was on the show, he says he's worried about

you, you will take him out and you would be rough with him. I am happy

to sacrifice the sin bin to see what needs to be done, be done. This is

up your street, Murderball, they must be scared about you. They

always say my face fits Crimewatch, it is the right spot for me. Don't

hold back, you can be aggressive as you can, don't come near me!

Ex-staff so Kelly Holmes. We know how gutsy you are on the athletics

track, have you ever do anything like this? Weedon, but we had a

practice and it is brilliant. -- we did. Mike needs to get his horns

out, no good being a gentle giant. Let's have a great time tonight. Ben

Steele, you are the captain, are they any good? Yes, we are

definitely going to win it, we will come out on top. Jason Robinson, I

haven't got time to chat, get out and use your speed. Just get out and

watch me go. A man who knows all about this sport, this was the

captain from 2012, do they know what they are doing because this is

rough? I would like to say yes but it is more like a no, they have had

a warm up. It will be exciting to watch. They are athletes and sports

people, they have a good idea of what will be going on and let's see

what happens. What about the atmosphere, it is like 2012, it

brings it back for you? The crowds as lively as it has ever been, to be

part of London 2012, to be part of this now, it is fantastic, the

Cedars board grow, it will just keep growing. The time for chatting is

over, let's go over to the one and only Eddie Butler, for commentary.

COMMENTATOR: Thank you. Sir Clive Woodward is the team manager of

Endeavour, in the red shirts, and Jonny Wilkinson is the manager in

Victor 's, in the green shirts. He kicked England to victory in the

2003 World Cup, here comes Jason Robinson who played such a big part

in that triumph. And we are going to have the opening goal by none other

than Prince Harry. 1-0, to the green team, the aim of the game is to get

the ball between the cones. Mike Tindall is on the pitch, ex-sergeant

in the Army, Kelly Holmes. And the way comes the GB professional

wheelchair rugby team representative, Mike Tindall

overrunning. If he goes out of bounds, it is automatic, well not

automatically, well he has to be careful where he comes back into

play. Number five, for the green team. Dennis, from the Danish

Invictus Games team. Harry Wales. Passed forward, Jim Roberts. One of

the professionals. Jim Roberts on the green team... 2-0. Team Invictus

lead. Contact wheelchair to wheelchair is not only allowed, it

is positively encouraged. And he escape the last-ditch tackle Prince

Harry. Opening score for Endeavour, 2-1, Invictus lead.

. As elusive on four wheels, perhaps as he was on two legs. And away

comes Dennis, Denmark took bronze in the wheelchair rugby. The grand

final is to come. You know what, this is a lecture, I cannot believe

Prince Harry opened the scoring, make sure you come back later. --

this is electric. I would love to see you going into battle. STUDIO:

We have Spandau, but that was gripping. Harry looked chuffed when

he got the goal. Hats off to him, to organising it. Your documentary,

Soul Boys of the Western World, documents the rise of Spandau Ballet

from the beginning to the bitter end, really. You gave the job to

somebody else to put together, only recently when it was finished you

have seen it, so what did you make of it? It was tough viewing as a

band. She really found within the archive a story about friendship.

And how it can break down. About relationships really, it is like a

brotherly romance. When you watch it, everybody who knows the story,

we ended up in court together. Really quite bitter break-up, and it

is all in there. It is voice-overs from the five of us, we did it

individually without knowing what anybody else saying. You know what

it reminded me of, the Ayrton Senna documentary, you did not have to be

one of his fans to get into it, and Soul Boys of the Western World is a

bit like that. You do not have to be a Spandau fan to understand what it

is about. All of the footage was found by this directive presumably

from fans who'd been filming things, different gigs, how did she find it?

To be honest we found somebody to find the footage from about two

years before because we thought it would be good to collate it all. And

in the process we found stuff we didn't know existed, like there's a

famous gig we did on HMS Belfast before we were signed in 1980.

Somebody had the super eight of that and we saw it for the first time

last year. There was a film of us on the New York trip, which came about.

We gave it to George. And then we walked out of the door. I think that

was the film we wanted, we did not want it to be a PR job, we wanted

her to find a story which gave it wait. What we tried not to do was

turn it into talking heads, everybody went in individually and

sat in a dark room with a microphone and got everything off their chest.

What was troubling them, what was right and what was wrong. Left it to

her to cut together. I am the baddie at one point! That means, you have a

chance for some kind of resolution. This morning, on the radio show, we

had Earth wind and Fire, they have been through similar situations.

Being in a band, is the closest thing to being in a marriage because

in very few occasions in life do you split up... You got married, and

then divorced, and then you got married again? When we first arrived

back together, the camera was rolling, we set it up in the corner,

we played music together and you can see us, we were nervous but as soon

as we started playing music, it is the equivalent of something else you

do when you're married. I'd macro I wonder what the equivalent is. -- I

wonder what that equivalent is? It was, for me, when the guys were in

court together and we went through the dark period it was like being a

kid and having your parents go through a divorce. A good story and

compelling viewing. You were close at the beginning because you are

sitting in your pants listening to an early version of True.

This is the moment you knew it was going to be OK for a while.

Recording True within two or three playbacks everyone was singing along

and we knew then that we had found a song that could change our lives for

ever. The funny thing is I didn't think it was a single. I thought it

was a lovely song. APPLAUSE Kids, as you can see there the 80s

were brilliant for many things, but shorts, that was not one of them.

We were in the Bahamas there. You weren't in the Bahamas! You were in

Kensal rise! Some party. It's time for our first Pop Quiz question,

ready? Yes. Over to you, Mike. If you don't get it right we will show

that naked picture of you with shopping baskets with something in

them hanging around your waist. In 1984, the year of your downfall,

meatloaf had a hit with modern girl, who had a hit with the same title?

Because she's a modern girl... I can't tell you. Bring out the naked

picture! Who was it? Sheila Eastern. There is no naked picture

of her. More questions and nudity from Spandau later. Their rise in

the 1980s came at a time of tremendous change in British society

and this year marks the anniversary when two groups struck a surprising

friendship. The miners' strike, time of great upheaval, running battles

with the police, arguments between politicians and extreme hardship for

the communities involved. But in the middle of the hostility is an

unlikely alliance was formed, one that's now inspired a feature film.

We raised this money because we want to tell you that Mac help you. Moved

by the plight of the striking miners the Lesbian and gay community in

London started to raise money. The Sun newspaper called it an unholy

alliance of Pits and Perverts, and somehow that phrase took on a life

of its own. The Electric Ballroom in Camden played host to a benefit gig

that raised thousands for striking miners in South Wales. The gig is

being recreated for the movie premiere and Jimmy Somerville is

here to perform again. How come you got involved 30 years ago and what

did it mean? We felt the pain and the pressure and it was also showing

we weren't just obsessed with gay politics, not disclosed group of

people. We wanted to help these people. The chosen area was Dulais

in South Wales and Mike Jackson who was part of lesbian and gay support

the miners made the first contact. We made this decision we would adopt

this probably good community in Wales and I was the secretary of the

union and we wrote a letter and I remember popping this in the

letterbox and I thought I would love to be a fly on the wall when this

gets there because we were not stupid. Homophobia was rampant 30

years ago. Sian James was married to a minor and was there when the

letter arrived. Everybody burst out laughing. And we thought, why are we

laughing? What's funny about it? We thought, that is great and we talked

about it, and I can't say there was any rampant homophobia because there

wasn't. We were more concerned when we heard we would have two provide a

vegetarian option. When they can to visit? The LGSM activists were

invited to Dulais to meet the miners they were supporting. We were

assembled outside the miners welfare Hall and there were about 200-300

people in this concert room and we opened the double swing doors and

behold tenor of the conversation dropped. And then one person started

clapping, and the whole room stood up and gave us an ovation. That was

a moment in my life when everything changed. All we ever wanted was

acceptance and we got it there and then in seconds. Celebrations ensued

and Jonathan Blake showed off his moves on the Champs floor. -- dance

floor. It was fantastic. They made us so welcome. It was a joy. There

is the most wonderful photograph of me dancing and Sian there and it is

fantastic, absolutely amazing. The culmination of this was the Pits and

Perverts benefit gig which must have been huge. 1500 people came to it

and we raised over ?5,500. You are re-claiming the kind of famous

headline as well. One of the things gay people have always done is taken

things and subverted it, inverted it, so if somebody wants to call as

perverts, right, we will use it with pride. The group raised over ?20,000

for the miners helping them through the strike but after a year of

severe poverty the financial hardship took its toll and the

miners voted to return to work. It was seen as a great defeat for the

British trade union movement. But a shift in attitudes towards

homosexuality had begun and the miners pledged to support gays and

lesbians in their struggle. Not only did they bring their banners to the

Gay pride rally in London, the miners also helped to push through

gay rights policies at the 1985 Labour Party conference. When you

are in a battle against an enemy so much bigger, so much drunker than

you, to find out you have a friend that you never knew existed, that's

the best feeling in the world. -- so much stronger than you. Lifelong

friendships have worse amended that have been rekindled by this film. My

friend went to see it this afternoon and said it was brilliant. It looks

amazing. It was really good. You were Spandau Ballet by 1984, the

year of the miners' strike. What were you before? You play different

genres of music. You couldn't settle. Martin was in a band before

when we were called The Gentry. Before then when we had another bass

player we will call the makers, The Cut, a school band, as in the Ed

Norton modern family sketch when he turns up and the girl says you're

not from Spandau Ballet. I didn't know this, you knew this already,

but explain to everybody at home where the name Spandau Ballet came

from. We were The Gentry like Gary said and we played one Saturday

morning to the click of London from The Blitz Club, and we didn't have a

name at that point but Robert elms, you know the presenter, came to us

and said, listen, that name will not work. He had just come back from

Berlin and seen the name Spandau Ballet written on the toilet wall in

Berlin. The odds are we stole it from some INEOS. I know we did

because in 1986, walking down the street in Islington, this bloke came

up to me shouting have stolen our name! -- we stole it from somebody

else. As soon as you start a band now you have to look it up on the

Internet and find out if somebody else is using it. What does it mean?

I don't know. Yes you do! It is a place in Berlin. We have footage of

the first time Spandau Ballet played their new sound to an invited

audience. Here we go. That rehearsal room that day was

probably the most important gig we have ever played. It was such a

relief to see the excitement on their faces when I realised that

morning we had become their band. APPLAUSE

You were quite eclectic, weren't you?

We had no money and we were kids living at home with our family,

Martin found that beret at an army surplus store. You had things going

on behind the keyboard. No! Just for that it is time for another Pop

Quiz. Second question: If you don't want

to see that photograph from the days before you could actually afford

clothes, guys, here is a question from that year again, 1984. Which

operated Malcolm McLaren pillage in 1984? Madame Butterfly. Yes, you are

right. We are getting thousands of women

who say they need to show the photograph. To be honest, the quiz

is irrelevant, to be honest. All right, let's get an update on how

Prince Harry and his team got on in the wheelchair rugby. What have been

the highlights so far, Iwan? So many highlights, you are missing loads.

Harry scored first and then when you went, this was fantastic, Dame Kelly

Holmes Trust, no one being nice to her, being absolutely smashed, she

was going to score and no prisoners, everyone being rough with her.

Fantastic. This was fantastic as well, Zara Phillips getting really

stuck in. Nice change of pace from her and she set up a goal. It was a

brilliant pass and it has been such a tight game. The highlight you just

missed and the whole crowd was booing was right here. Prince Harry,

Mr Prince Harry himself, yes, what did I do, referee? You know what you

did, he got sent off to the sin binned, he was having a smile and

the crowd absolutely loved it. He was sent off and he is still in the

sin bin, fantastic. You have loved it and have been with me for the

whole game. Who has been the really good player out there? To be honest

with you it was Prince Harry. He has been end-to-end, his passes have

been on point, he has been communicating with his team-mates

and it's been amazing to watch. Make sure after The One Show you flick

over to BBC Two to see all of the action here. It has been brilliant.

Thank you, Iwan. You have this new movie out in a couple of weeks, the

rise, fall, fall again this and other ally. How important was your

loyalty -- fall again. It was like being stuck in the middle of your

parents being divorced and you were torn. Obviously my loyalty was to

Gary as my brother, but to them as my friends. I think what hurt me the

most when I looked back and saw the film for the first time was how

little attention I gave the others during that period. Because

obviously it was tearing them apart the same as it was tearing Gary

apart. But when I watched the film I'm pretty disappointed in myself as

a young man. We have to say Martin was going through bad health

problems at the time. But also, you were young, you learn, you spend

your whole life trying to be good on the drums or the guitars, you teach

yourself that but nobody teaches you to be ready for success. Looking

back on the film it feels like other people. We were kids at first and in

the beginning in the 60s and 70s we are still playing on bomb sites. He

didn't really feel like it was me. Maybe I had become some INEOS. In

tonight's Pop Quiz it is 1-0 to you. In the sibling rivalry, this

question is for you. -- someone else.

And you know, we are going to show the picture anyway so it is

irrelevant, as it was in 1984. A television hippie in 1984 had a hole

in his shoe. Who had the original hit? I know that you know this. I

thought you knew this. I don't know! You know the song. Bernard... That

is a hole in the ground, the hole in my head! It was Traffic. How did I

not know that. Traffic was the original and Neal from the Young

ones with the cover. I could have got another one. Thank you, Mike

Reid. APPLAUSE Bring Pop Quiz back. Thanks to you

boys. Soul Boys of the Western World is in similar is on September 30.

The final of Tumble is on tomorrow at 6pm on BBC1. Watch that if you

can.