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Welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones. Tonight we

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are joined by three TV veterans who between them have pretty much

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written the book on broadcasting. Now they've proven there's no

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substitute for experience with Rip Off Britain. It's Gloria Hunniford,

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Julia Somerville and Angela Rippon. Did we all ring ourselves and wear

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black. But a hint of sparkle. cannot go on without saying a huge

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congratulations to Alex for Strictly!

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APPLAUSE Not just for the weekend, but the

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whole thing. It's been an incredible experience. Thank you at

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home for everybody who lifted the phone and voted and supported James

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and I throughout the whole thing. It was incredible we were there for

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the semi-finals. Are you feeling all right? Yeah, we are

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disappointed obviously. But it was because we wanted to complete the

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experience. We were never going to lift the glitterball. You were

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brilliant. Let's face it, look at the state of that. We were never

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going to win! You went for it. That's all that matters. Yeah, we

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had a great time. Thank you all at home. On that note, you're very

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good at the small print girls. Any chance to get her into the final?

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Definitely. A bit of sabotage I think. I'd better go now! I tell

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you what, it is an experience you never forget. You were brilliant.

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Well done. I did it, year two, when if you put one foot past the other

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you were on. It was simple. You were brilliant from the beginning.

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In admiration. You're in good company here. No-one's won it.

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Angela's done a bit. She did the splits. I saw her! When the UK's

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first cash machine was installed in 1967, it made getting your hands on

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your money easier than ever. now almost 45 years later more than

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one third of cash machines charge us for the benefit of taking our

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money out. Gloria and the Rip Off Britain team report that in some

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parts of Liverpool, finding an afr TM that doesn't charge -- ATM that

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doesn't charge involves a bit of walking.

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When you need cash in a hurry, the easiest option is, this a hole in

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the wall. Or at least it is when it's free. But there are more than

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21,000 UK cash machines that charge you for the privilege of

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withdrawing your own money. Whilst it's compulsory for all fee

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charging machines to display a warning to customers, in some

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poorer areas of Britain, like Anfield, free to use bank cash

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machines are thin on the ground. The locals say they have little

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choice but to use one that's charge. City centres you get free ones.

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More deprived the area, the more they hike it up. I had to walk a

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good 20 mintoits get to the nearest cash machine, not to pay, it's

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frustrating. At times I had to pay. If you have to use it more than

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once in a week, it's quite a lot of money, whu think about it. We sent

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one of our Rip Off Britain researchers to get some cash out in

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Anfield, starting from the stadium itself. The closest two machines

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both charged. The first one was �1.70. A minute down the road �175

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for the second. Now the third machine she reached also charged

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but it was out of order. And although there were ATMs and shops

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and bars along the route, not one of them was free. Hang about, she's

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spotted one. More than 20 minutes high speed walking later, she's

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reached a junction with two free cash machines. Finally, she got her

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hands on some dosh. It's a tax on poverty. If you look at areas of

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deprivation where people are on low incomes and they're having to pay

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to get their own money out, all that's happening is that the

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problems are being made worse that they face. We've talked to the

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banks. We've talked to Government ministers to get some recognition

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that this is a problem that the banks need to solve. The Royal Bank

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of Scotland and Lloyds TSB don't allow customers with their basic

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bank accounts to use the cashpoints of some other banks at all. They

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say they make a loss from allowing them to do so. Lloyds say that over

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95% of their customers are able to access free cash within a mile of

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their homes. RBS say more than 90% of their basic account holders can

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get free cash, but watchdog Consumer Focus are not happy.

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we're concerned about is that basic bank account customers will have to

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pay more money to access their money. They won't be able to go to

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their local branch. These consumers have basic bank accounts because

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they've got the least money. Why are the poorest consumers paying

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more? What steps are being taken by the company who run the cash

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machine network to ensure that people in our poorest communities

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have free access to their cash? have a scheme which Link runs on

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behalf of the industry to make sure we look at the most deprived areas,

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is there a free to use cash machine there? If there's not, the ind

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triputs in the subsidy to get one there. There should not be any

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deprived areas in the UK without a free ATM. If there are, we're

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working with consumer organisations to identify those. Account

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individual write and say, look, it's ridiculous. I represent this

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community and there's no free machine, what will you do about it?

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The Link website is there asking for that information with our

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address on. We would welcome that and look at. It That's the

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situation in Anfield. What about the rest of the country. People all

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over the country feel hot under the collar about this idea of having to

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pay to get your own money back. The problem has been around for a

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couple of years. I have facts and figures. It was discovered in 2007

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that there were 1700 deprived areas across the UK that did not have

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easy and free access to their own money, to cash. The industry

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promised to address the problem. Since then, there have been 815

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cash machines installed. But the problem has not gone away, despite

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those machines. Link pretty well control most of the machines. They

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admit that 300 communities still struggle to get access to the money

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without having to do that awful walking and travelling just to get

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their own money. Some of the areas, there are many I could cite:

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Whiterock- West Belfast, Caer Dydd - Cardiff, Warsop Vale - Mansfield,

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Coldham - Peterborough, North East Woking, Carnunnock - Glasgow. It's

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a big problem. People feel rightly, why should I have to pay to get my

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money back. What was brilliant about that. After you did the

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interview Link looked at those areas where they might put in free

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cash machines. It's indicative of the fact that the programme we do

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gets results. It pin points a problem. We go after it. As Gloria

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did there, interview the people responsible for making change and

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we actually do manage to get things changed. We were going to ask you,

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what do you think is the biggest success story you've had so far?

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Difficult to say what's the biggest because we've had so many really

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good successes. PPI is a good example. Brilliant. We did

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wonderful, in the last series we were looking at those people

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selling their gold by sending it away in those envelopes and sending

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it to companies and discovered that so many of them were not paying the

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right kind of money. We put a lot of people out of business because

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we highlighted that. Probably the biggest success of all, overall is

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that as a programme, we let people know of the pit falls that there

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are. All of us get stopped in the street when we're shopping, when

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we're at events, people say, we love your programme, because we've

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learned so much. That's down to the courage, very often, and honestly,

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those people that have been affected were prepared to share

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those problems with us. It's real people, real situations, real

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results, real television. That's how I feel about it. We take the

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individual problem. We base the programme on people's problems. But

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we get the results. The three of us kick the doors down. One of the

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rather upsetting things is that we end up with a report by saying

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"When Rip Off Britain got in touch, the company concerned decided that

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the person that had been complaining did have a case after

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all." But it was only after we got in touch. It leaves you with the

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question, why didn't they do that in the first place, why does it

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have to be the little person has to get somebody like the BBC involved,

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in pursuing a case that is perfectly legitimate. I tell you

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one funny thing. Energy prices are one of the biggest problems. With

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energy prices because the bill is so difficult to read, we put it to

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a Mastermind champion, a former brain of Britain and professor of

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science, and out of all the questions he only got one right. He

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said "If I can't do it, what chance do you have?" I asked Chris Huhne

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"Do you understand your bill?" He paused quite a long time and said I

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did get someone to look at it for me. Which is not surprising,

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because there are 300 separate tariffs. Even the energy minister

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admitted he didn't quite get it right. You even changed your own

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company. I did last year. Rip Off Britain is on BBC One weekdays at

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9.15am. Now something that will interest

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you ladies. Tomorrow after a seven- month investigation, Mary Portas,

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Queen of shops, delivers her findings on the state of the High

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Street to the Prime Minister. thought she'll call for less

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regulation for High Street traders, taxes on parking at out of town

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shopping centres and a national market day to breathe life into

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 217 seconds

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It's panto! Its pantomime time again. Women are playing men, men

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are playing women, villains are being booed and nicknames are

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selling seats. But the recognition that celebrities get from audiences

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is nothing new, going back as far as the Victorian age. In 1879, a

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man arrived on the scene who would scandalise London society and

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revolutionise the pantomime forever. His name was Augustus Harris and he

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came here to the Theatre Royal in London's Drury Lane.

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Augustus had show business in his blood and was determined to make a

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fortune from it. At just 27, he convinced his friends to lend him

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the money to getting started. When he took the reins, Drury Lane was

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losing money fast. Determined to make the theatre a success and to

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bring in the crowds, he knew exactly what had to be done. Big

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theatres needed big shows. And his shows would be bigger, better and

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more spectacular than anything that When he arrived pant miems were

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lengthy. The pantomime was sandwiched between a play, musical

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interludes. He came along and revolutionised pantomime. He put a

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template on it that we have today. He made it the Solent tainment,

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something spectacular. Big wasn't enough. Augustus needed the X

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Factor. He needed celebrity. For the first time in history, stars of

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music hall and vaudeville came to panto. Augustus enticed big names

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like Marie Lloyd, the dwarf comic Little Tich and the world champion

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clog dancer, Dan Leno. His first production, Blue Beard was

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described as the most spectacular pantomime the city had ever seen.

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The best was yet to come. In 1887, Augustus staged the 40 thieves, it

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cost �3.5 million in today's money, involved 500 actors and lasted five

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hours. Augustus had hit the jackpot. But

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Harris had one more trick up his sleeve. It wasn't just spectacle

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and celebrity that drew in the crowds, but sex and scandal.

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Enter one Belle Billton, a music hall performer who became the talk

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of London hall for all the very wrong reasons. When they got

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married in a registry office, the Earl cut him off completely. Eight

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days after the wedding, the Lord was sent off to Australia and was

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supposed to never see his wife again. Belle was accused of having

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an affair and so a divorce case began. It was huge. It was

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scandalous. It was all over the papers. In the middle of the

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divorce proceedings, her husband turned up and went, no my wife is

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innocent, I wish to stay with her. This forced his father to admit

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that he'd sent Lord Dunlow away to ruin Belle. This made her a heroin

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-- heroine amongst the people. Augustus was preparing to stage

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Dick Whittington. On hearing about the trial he changed his mind. He

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decided to put on Beauty and the Beast with Belle in the starring

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role, knowing the public would flock to see her.

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Augustus Harris was the ultimate Victorian showman. He died aged

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just 44, 17 years after he first arrived here at Drury Lane. But his

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commitment to sex, celebrity and extravaganza means he's left a

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permanent mark on the face of British pantomime. Oh, yes he has!

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Gyles is here to talk about panto. I'm very excited. I have not got my

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book of the rules of pantomime. I can't find it. It's behind you!

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Come on, we did all that before the film! Oh, no it is. Actually.

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are basic rules to pantomime. It's one great British tradition. It

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doesn't happen anywhere else in the world except in this country. It's

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a fairy story that begin was a crisis which is then resolved. Then

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there's another crisis and there's a wedding. Then you go home. That

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is the essence of it. There are more basic rules as well. There has

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to be topical elements. There has to be audience participation. All

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pantomimes have to have a happy ending, you also have demons and

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fairies, and they usually speak in verse. They come on from different

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sides of the stage. The good fairies, these are very important,

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this for superstitions. The good fairies come on from the right. The

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demon comes on from the left, the sinister side. This comes back to

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the Victorian theatres where they had a star trap on the left side,

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where the demon could pop up and imaginically appear. That's the

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essential thing. Other superstitions, you mustn't say the

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final cuplet of the pantomime before the first night, not even at

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the dress rehearsal. Just at the end, the young lovers. As we know,

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there must be no whistling in the wings, in the dressingroom. No

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chapping of hands -- clapping of hands either. No-one wants to be in

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sin bad the sailor. Nobody is, it became so unhappy, the last person

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to do it was Ken Dodd, you just before the Inland Revenue called.

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True story. It hasn't been on since. The essence of pantomime though,

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it's the Lord of misrule. Everything's upside down. Humans

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appear as animals, men appear as women. Women appear as men. In the

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19th century it was made popular by a lady called Madam Vespris. In

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Victorian times you could never see beautiful legs. We were excited by

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seeing Angela's legs. In Victorian times it was not possible. People

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wore long dresses. Pantomime, dress up as a lad, as you could we're

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breeches. They were played by girls dressed as boys to show off shapely

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legs. Men began to appear as women, because the women didn't want to be

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ludicrous old women. Musical stars introduced into the Victorian

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theatre as pantomime stars. Herbert Campbell, the fellow on the left.

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He began playing the dame part. It's grown from there. That's how

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it all began. You rounded all that up very nicely. Don't you think

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we've got three people who could be stars. You would be so good as Dand

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ini. Lots of times and I've always said no. I know Gloria has done

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panto, haven't you? I did it twice. I did it for the tax man if I'm

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being really honest. All Americans come here now for the bank rl. It's

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fun, but they get a lot of money. did it too, Cinderella. Did you

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play Cinderella? No. Moving on to big cats now. Do you want me to

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tell you the secret? I've done Countryfile for a while. Do you

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want the secret of spotting a big cat wild in the British

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countryside? Go on. The pig pause... Armed police are trying to trap a

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puma-like creature? The discovery of a skull on Bodmin Moor. Tales of

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big cats roaming the countryside have captured people's imaginations

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for decades. His face was covered in blood. Fresh reports throw the

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issue back into the headlines. the corner of field he found the

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body of one of his sheep, torn to shreds. Police receive reports of

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almost 2,000 sightings of various large cats in the UK every year.

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Whilst many of those turn out to be hoaxes. Most of them end up proving

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inconclusive. Now data released under the Freedom of Information

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Act has revealed, for the first time, even Government officials

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have reported sightings. It fuelled the argument that big cats do run

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wild here. The forest commission has confirmed their wardens, so

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certain they've spotted these animals, have documented numerous

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sightings. Using thermal imaging equipment in the Forest of Dean in

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March 2005, they found themselves within spitting distance of

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something that looked very strange indeed. It turned sideways onto me

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and started moving away. It looked like a cat. It's definitely a cat.

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A very big cat. Then I heard the clunk of the door as the other guys

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got inside and wound the windows up. How can you be sure it was a cat

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then? As it turned to the side, it had a very obvious cat profile. It

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had a long, sleek shape, the shoulder blades stuck up quite a

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bit. It had a sloping, well hung back. Then this tail, drooped right

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down to the floor and up again in a J curve. It couldn't have been

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anything else at all. This is compelling evidence, that at some

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point there have been individual large cats loose in our countryside.

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But are they here now? So concerned about the potential threat of what

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it called non-native species, another Government body, Natural

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England, produces Anandual report on sightings. Yet it still

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maintains there is no verifyable evidence that big cats are present

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in this country. Nevertheless, the Sir Couple Stan shall evidence is -

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- the circumstantial evidence is compelling. You used to be able to

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buy lions and big cats openly. Three years later that bm very

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expensive. But due to a loophole in the law, you could release them

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into the wild. Six years later this practice was ban. Can the spike in

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reported sightings during this period be a coincidence?

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majority of sightings fit a large black panther, jet black, muscular,

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very fit. Those are consistent descriptions from independent

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witnesses across the country. We assume it's a leopard. Some may not

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be, particularly when sometimes a more puma-type noise is heard.

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They're more Brownie, grey colour, similar size it a leopard but

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lighter. The other main one is a lynx, short tail, pointy ears and

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often slightly spotted. With an average life expectancy of 15 years,

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big cat escapees from the 1970s should be long dead. It seems that

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maybe people have still released them subsequently because we're

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still seeing them. It seems there's breeding and further releases going

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on perhaps. Gloucestershire has had on average ten sightings a year for

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the past three years. Will professional camera traps placed

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here provide the conclusionive evidence? If these species are out

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there and breeding, that's -- that poses a problem for the Government?

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The Government and the police are damned if they make statements,

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damned if they don't. It's a challenge in areas where there are

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many sightings. When we return two days later to collect the footage

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from our camera traps, there was no evidence of big cats. But along

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with deer, there were other more unexpected creatures. Wild boar

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became extinct in Britain in the 13th century, but as this footage

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proves, escapees from farms have formed viable populations across

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the country. If boar are thriving here under the noses of wildlife

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experts, why can't big cats? The evidence seems to suggest there's

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more than one large cat roaming the British countryside. Are they still

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out there? Are they breeding? As a naturalist and to be honest, a

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sceptic, I have to say, I'm just still not sure.

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If you thought that looked cold, earlier today we read about a 16-

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year-old girl who was the youngest person ever to ski to the South

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Pole. She arrived back in the country this afternoon. We were

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amazed when she accepted our invitation to come straight to the

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show. Please give a round of applause for Amelia Hempleton Adams

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and her explorer father David. APPLAUSE

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Welcome back! Goodness me. You were out there, temperatures down to

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nearly minus 50, when you got off the plane here, due think, wow this

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is hot. Not really. It's colder here. It feels it. Dad, you did

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lots of polar expeditions, first of all, how was it spending 17 days

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straight with your dad? It wasn't too bad, apart from the snoring.

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I've hardly slept for three weeks. How was she to have along with the

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team? Fantastic, bearing in mind she's just a young teen idgeer. She

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was the youngest by at least 30 years. To cope with those

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conditions and with all the people as well, she did very, very well.

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The pace of it as well. We were looking at pictures here, what's

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happening here? You're dragging your belongings behind. That's at

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Union glacier camp, training. That's when I actually reached the

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South Pole. How would you describe your experience? It must be hard

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for anybody to imagine what you saw and felt out there. It was really

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tiring, but definitely worth it. Highlights for you? Definitely

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reaching the pole. Yeah, I bet! had a little memento with you.

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from Shackleton's granddaughter, it was a coin, and a photo which dad

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made us salute every morning and night. He blessed us with the good

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weather. Is it right that you set off from where his was cancelled?

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He on his expedition he got the furthest south within 97 miles. We

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set off 98 miles from the pole and skied there. We were blessed. It

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was a -- he was a great Irishman. Each morning and night I made the

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team salute him. He gave us wonderful weather. Massive

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