14/03/2012 The One Show

Hello, and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

Now tonight's guests have won 32 gold medals and performed before

royalty and world leaders. We've promised them that over the next

half hour, we won't mention the b- word. Stop it. I said no. After 28

years they're sick of it. It's Torvill and Dean!

APPLAUSE Lovely to see you both. We won't

mention the b-word. Anything else you want us to avoid. We won't ask

if you are a real couple or if you have a bungalow in Nottinghamshire.

One thing we will mention is the new Dancing On Ice tour. We'll talk

about that later on. A couple of weeks back, we brought you the

story of Anna Pike who contacted us fearing the man she'd met and fall

anyone love with online was a conartist. Anna handed over

thousands to someone she thought was her dream man. This was the

moment Anita revealed the scam. captain, the name doesn't exist.

It certainly touched many of you at home. After Anna told us her story,

others contacted us saying they had been coned by romantic scams but

were too ashamed to mention it. Other victims are cooperating with

the police. This is Derek's story. Blackpool, the home of Kiss Me

Quick hats, roller coaster rides and ballroom dancing. It's also

home to one man who found out the hard way that the course of true

love rarely runs smooth. Derek is 66 and retired. Nearly two years

ago, an advert in a contact magazine caught his eye. Living on

my own, being on my own for four years, I was hoping to find

somebody to start a relationship with. The woman of Derek's dreams,

so he thought, was 30-year-old primary school teacher Irene. She

wrote to him from her home in Ghana. For months they corresponded. She

even sent him some alluring photographs. She said that she was

sincere. She said she was looking for a relationship, even marriage.

Soy thought, well if she means these things, she's somebody I'd

like to meet. She promised to visit Blackpool and it was then the issue

of money was mentioned. She said she would fly to Manchester at a

cost of �600, if I would pay �300 of the fare. So I then sent her

�300. I went to the airport and I waited for the flight to arrive

from London, but she was not on it. So then I was distraught.

demands for money just kept on coming and Derek received a phone

call saying Irene had been in an accident. Why due sent another

�200? I felt responsible for the accident in that she'd been

travelling in order to come and see me. And after that, Derek sent even

more money. She said this time she was on the way to Blackpool. He

waited at the train station, but she never turned up. Unfortunately

for Derek, his dreams were about to be shattered. The Serious Organised

Crime Agency had been looking into scams from Ghana when they came

across his name. They made contact with Derek to tell him it had all

been a con. I was distraught because of what had been lost. And

that I'd be fool enough to be taken in. I wanted to -- believe it. Here

was somebody who might change my life. Derek is one of several

victims scammed by the same group. It's possible the photos of Irene

were of someone completely unaware of the scam. In Derek's case we're

sure there was no woman ever in existence writing to him. All of

the communication has been with a man. They will have paid a member

of their gang to speak to him. men than ever are coming forward as

victims of dating scams. But the Serious Organised Crime Agency

believes it's just the tip of the iceberg. For men, it's a bit of a

reputational thing. It's embarrassment factor. The, you have

to tell your family. I just get the impression from all of the victims

we speak to this is much more difficult for men to come to terms

with. Most certainly criminals rely on the fact that men are much less

likely to report or go to the police. Once they've got a man

they're talking to, that's an intensive one to one. He's not

going want to talk about this too much to anybody else. They rely on

that and make use of it. Derek has lost �800, but he's also

heartbroken. They're playing on your emotions, seeing how far you

can be tested and how far you're prepared to go. It's really cruel.

It's so tragic. Some people just don't realise that they're being

scammed. Anita is here. We heard that more men are coming forward

more than ever before. As far as the stats are concerned, are more

men coned than women or is it similar? The Home Office had 369

reports of dating fraud in the last six months. Of those 332 revealed

their gender. Of those 69% were women and 31% men. The University

of Leicester have done a lot of research into online dating scams.

They found there is no classic victim. It can be anybody, any

demographic, class, gender, age. They target specific types of

people. They know what people are looking forlet men tend to go for

younger women and women want somebody who they feel can be a

provider. That's the skill of them I guess, keying into what that

person wants. It is terrible what's happened to Ann and Derek, but it's

not all doom and gloom. Some people are very happy. A friend of yours

has met a partner on the internet. Yes, it was quite a few years ago

now. It was probably when it first started. They are still together.

They vai child. They've been married for years and all very

happy. It can work out. Same as my sister. And another example. Yes,

we have. Please welcome Roland and Cindy. Come on in.

Come on in, you guys. APPLAUSE

Lovely to see you. Sit yourself down. It will be nice and cosy up

there. So yes, how long ago did you meet, what's the story and how long

did you meet after you met online? Nearly three years ago we met. We

chatted online for about four weeks. And I have forgotten the next

question. Did you meet soon after? Yes after the four weeks, yes.

That's the key. People chat on the internet but you need to meet face

to face. Set the scene now what happened on the first date, where

you nervous, where did you meet, what did you do? I was nervous,

very nervous. We met in a pub. Then we went for a Chinese meal. We had

a fantastic night. Did you go for the banquet, were you there for

ages? Ti, was a matter of trying to find out and getting to know each

other a lot better. The first few dates were seeing how we got on

with each other, finding out whether we were honest with each

other, which we found we were, genuine. You look great together,

you really do. Were you aware of scammed out there? Very much so.

I'd seen one or two sites and had a look through and I went for an

older site that was sort of like over 50 for single people. And we

found each other on this site. And by the third date, I think it was,

we really found that we were, and that, it took just a little bit to

find out about each other, but by the third date, we had gelled.

knew Cindy was the one. Now you're married. It was a happy ending.

APPLAUSE Yes, come on. Let's hear it! Tell

everybody how Roland proposed. text. I love it. Come on. In the

same room. In the same room, we'd been, we had met in 2009 in May.

May 16, 2009 was the first time we met after say a month. Then by New

Year's Day 2011 we were just after midnight, we were all partying and

I sent a text to her. Don't try and dig yourself out. Due text back an

answer? No, I didn't. The question is how do we top Roland and Cindy's

romantic tale? Lucy Siegle has a good yarn about an underground

movement that's knitting communities together across the

nation. I'm on a mission to meet some

members of a close knitted fraternity. Many of whom keep their

identity secret and work in the dead of night. Hello? Hello Lucy.

Follow the yarn. Follow the yarn? I'm on the trail of knitters who

strike when you least expect it. I've been yarn boxing, urban

knitting, call it what you will. Knitting needles are claking up and

down the country right now. The city collective. I believe you're

responsible for this? No, we're not. We started yarn storming in 2009.

Rather than just doing a cosy we started to add a bit of history and

characters and craziness and our sense of humour to our stuff.

is the weirdest thing that you have made? An eight-metre giant squid

out of carrier bags, so 160 Sainsbury's bags and I made a squid.

Some people would say this is just graffiti really. The stuff we make

tends to be so cute that people steal it. It doesn't become a

litter problem. It doesn't stay up for long. And it's quite popular.

Yarn bombing has exploded. Recent knit hits include work by the

graffiti grannies, who creep around Cornwall using knit ware to keep

their identity secret. On the north-east coast 150-metre of

knitted Olympic figures has appeared on the town's peer. Lots

of smaller knits have been popping up all over the country. I've come

to Hampshire to meet a group known as the knitting naer do wells. You

know I've got a hunch, this could be the place.

Do you get an adrenaline rush through yarn bombing? Most

definitely. You go out in the cloak of darkness. It's exciting to get

your piece up, to see your public area transformed visually. Have you

ever been arrested? A few weeks ago when we did a hit of the town

centre, the police did come around. It was about midnight when we were

just businessing yarn bombing. They saw us and reversed. But they were

impressed. They let us carry on. You're not expecting for any

trouble tonight? You think it will go smoothly? We are quite good at

running. We're prepared to do that if we have to.

I'm feeling the adrenaline coursing through my veins. Our target is

just through there. Go! They're quite keen, I think.

What is that? This is my special cutting pendant. That's pretty

impressive. If people saw you up there, they might say you were

hooligans if you didn't have balls of wool in your hand. They can

always cut it down if they don't like it. How do you think it went?

Fantastic. I think it's amazing. You've basically created a sort of

work of art. It's fantastic. They've gone under the cloak of

darkness, the yarn bombers came and they evaporated. Ve mysterious! --

very mysterious. They may have disappeared but their work remains,

at least for now. A very big thank you to them for

yarn bombing our studio and they've dais peered without a trace. I

understand that's crocheted though. It's lovely. We should leave there

all the time. You two spend a lot of time in cold conditions, could

you do with a bit of yarn storm sning Yarn bomb? Absolutely.

mother used to yarn storm me when I was like aye four-year-old. She

would put me in twin suit, shorts and tops, matching. Did she ever

actually knit you outfits for skating in? Not yet. We had a

jumper once. She made us matching sweaters once. We have these here.

Aren't they beautiful. They're in the b outfits. We can't say that.

There we go. Are they for us or do they have to go somewhere. They are

for you. They're very G the rolling stones have announced that they're

doing a 50th anniversary tour. Can you still see you two skating in

your sequins in your 70s? I'm not sure about that. No. They'd have to

be age appropriate routines I think. I came to see you and I'm really

taken, as I'm sure a lot of the audience are, by, no disrespect,

but how amazing you are, you're still Olympic level. It's

extraordinary. Thank you very much. If you keep in shape and keep on

top of it, you can continue to do it at a certain level longer.

think being in the ice rink it preserves you. Does it? When was

the last time you fell over on the ice? We were trying to think about

that... We try not to fall over. do in training. We're always trying

new things. Are you showing a picture of us falling over?

we're not. With the tour then, there's the semi-final on Sunday

and straight after the final you're on tour. Yes with the finalists.

What can people expect? Are you skating a lot in it. You're hosting

it as well this time. It's a difference for us this year. We're

hosting it as well. That first part of the opening part of the show

that we're very integral with that and getting people on and off the

ice. We're performing as well, several routines as are our

professionals and our celebrities. They're judged each night like a

competition as well. In front of thousands of people as well. It

must give you that buzz again. a bit of a hair let down for the

celebs going on tour. Each week, you know this, it builds up and you

get to that pitch and now they're going out and enjoying it more and

doing one routine. So they get to practice it and get better and

better. It's been pretty full on this series, there's been a few

accidents. There has. With Jennifer Ellison. The ones you read about.

Oh! That skate in the back of the head. Oh, my word. We did warn her

in training that be careful. She's so loose, she has long legs. You

careful you don't overdo it. Of course she did. On the night,

adrenaline kicked in. Is it true you have asked them to tone down or

make the routines safer for the semi-finals? No. No. We are always

very conscious. No, whatever you do keep going. Once they've got the

bit between the teeth they want to push themselves as well. It's all

about bigger and better. This weekend, don't be surprised if you

see a few head bangers out there. That's the one where you go like

that. That looks nasty. Would you have a go at that? I probably would

have a go. You just have to put your trust in your partner. Come

one day and we should test it out. I'm not safe on my feet let alone

on skates. Is it all the blokes that do it, obviously the girls

remain tight. If the girls doing the take off as well and landing,

that's tricky. If the boy's doing it, they have to have the stability

and the strength and the coordination to be able to do it.

It has the potential to be disastrous. Indeed. After winning

Olympic gold, you were massive across the world, but especially in

Australia, they loved you. So much they convinced you to record an

album. OK, this is when we leave. Wait a minute. We didn't know about

Wait a minute. We didn't know about this. Do you remember this?

# I love coffee # I love tea... #

It's sort of like the Kylie and Jason of Australia. They tried that.

But it didn't work. Why just Australia? The question has to be

asked, why not here? Or was it released over here? No. It didn't

travel well. You can buy it on iTunes though. Yes. He had a bad

accident and he broke his ankle. We had months of recovery. One of our

producers suggested oh, why don't you make an album because you can't

skate for a period of time. Chris was keen. So we went for serious

singing lessons. I had my leg in plaster. He was so bored. He was

into it more than I was. It's well worth a listen. It really is.

classic. Maybe we'll be trending. They may have won gold with that

routine we promised not to mention. We reckon this fella could be

striking gold in Russia in 2014. He's been yarned as well. She has!

Little ratatouille is an internet sensation after being filmed

snowboarding in pencele vain ya. You need this guy on your tour.

think it would be interesting, if he could get skates on. I love that

jumper. It's worth a try. To follow that another ice loving creature

with equally happy feet. In the past, many zoos kept animals

not just for conservation but for the entertainment of the paying

public. I think I'll just have a bit of a drink before we go off on

a walk now. Penguins were a popular comic spectacle and the main

purpose of an enclosure was to show them off. The modernist

architecture of the penguin pool of London zoo has a stark beauty. But

some of the penguins have problems breeding here and many chicks had

to be hand reared. When the penguins were moved to temporary

accommodation, more natural surroundings saw the birds

successfully rearing their own chicks. Today, as the emphasis has

firmly shifted to the conservation of species, zoos strife to make

their enclosures as real to life as their enclosures as real to life as

possible. In the wild, different penguin species thrive in different

environments. One might prefer exposed rocks in the subAntarctic

Ocean. Another might prefer warm, sunny beaches. Accommodating two

species as different as this, side by side, in a single enclosure is a

real challenge. Here in Torquay on the English Riviera, one zoo has

come pretty close. Keeper Dan Bentley explains how

this was achieved for the African and macaroni penguins living here.

We've got a three metre pool. It's all sea water pumped in from the

bay. We have burrows which they like to go in and lay their eggs.

The macaroni, in the wild, they're a subAntarctic species. We have

given it fans which emitt a sea spray, a cooling down on nice hot

days like today. It's to make their life as nrl as possible. This

attempt to reproduce key elements of their natural environment means

penguins are breeding successfully here. Good news when one species is

classified as vulnerable and the other endangered. I've placed this

infrared camera into the nest of an African penguin pair that has just

laid eggs. If they're successful, we'll see the newly hatched chick.

The package on here will record everything that happens in the

burrow. So now all we have to do is... Erm... Wait.

The macaronis hatched their chicks a few months ago. I want to see how

they're getting on. The next challenge is keeping them all fed.

In the wild, penguins can make round trips of up to 150 kilometres

to find food for their chicks. They also dive to depths of up to 100

metres. Obviously they can't exactly recreate that here. Instead

they go for the next best thing, hand feeding the penguins from

under water. To get the penguin perspective I have this underwater

camera. Anyone for breakfast? Penguins can stay under water for

up to three minutes at a time, using their webbed feet and tail as

a rud er and wings as flippers. They're fast too, swimming up to 14

kilometres an hour. When they're full of fish, they head back to

their nest and regurgitate it back into the chibgdz' mouths. So the

MacRhoneies are bringing up their young, but what about those African

penguins? Both the mother and father sit on their egg for 40 days,

father sit on their egg for 40 days, until it finally hatches. And there

it is! This new chick only weighs about 70 grams now. But after just

ten days, that weight has more than doubled. And after a couple of

weeks, it takes its first steps, blinking into the sunlight. This is

the latest addition to the 18 penguin chicks hatched over the

last year, hopefully in years to come, this one will be having

come, this one will be having chicks of its own.

Aahhhh. I was at the Saturday at the weekend and the kids couldn't

get enough of the penguins. One thing affecting people at the

moment is transport poverty. Simon Boazman went to Carmarthenshire to

see how it's hitting them hard. There are few more picturesque land

escapes than rural South Wales on the edge of the Brecon Beacons.

When you look around here you can understand why people enjoy living

in the countryside. But it comes with an unavoidable and for some,

unaffordable additional cost and that's simply, the price of getting

about. The cost of running a car is so

expensive here that Paul and his family have taken to cycling

whenever they can. That means popping out for a bottle of milk

takes on a whole new meaning. How close is the local supermarket to

you? It's an 11 mile round trip to the main supermarket. Is that

practical on the bike all the time? It can be done. It's hard work

sometimes. In the winter, when it gets dark early, it's very

unpleasant sometimes as well. there public transport to get the

kids to and from there? No, there's a bus on Wednesdays and Saturdays.

That's it? That's the bus service. Hospital appointments is about 30

miles each way. You can't do it on public transport. Forced to use the

car, Paul's family spend over 10% of income on travel, with nearly

�50 a week on diesel. That's up almost 12% from last year. While no

official definition exists, some charities means this means Paul's

family is what they call transport poverty. For Paul that means being

forced to cut back on other costs like the weekly shop. How does

spending so much of your income on fuel affect some of the practical

decisions you have to make? children love purple grapes and we

often can't afford them because they're �5.50 a kilo. Or they like

pink lady apples but they're twice the price of coxs apples. When you

put �25 worth of fuel in, I know it will be funnished by the end of the

week just to get to work, not including doing the nicer things in

life. Most of us can sympathise. The average cost of keeping a car

on the road is �6,000 a year. With research going the cost of diesel

is 4p a litre more in rural areas, the Government are piloting a

scheme that gives motorists in the most rural places a 5p fuel

discount. The charity believes people feel forced to run cars.

When you talk about transport poverty what do you mean? We are

all familiar of being in fuel poverty. If you spend 10% of your

household income on heating your home you're in fuel poverty. The

poorest 20% of the popular are spending more than 25% of their

income on running a car. It's schemes like this down the road,

that they want to see more of, to help save money and the environment,

the village have got together to form a car club, where residents

can hire a car to use as and when they need it. Any car club, if

you're using a shared car, you give up your own car, it saves costs

enormously. A lot of the running costs of the car are about the tax,

insurance and if you're sharing all of that, the cost of running a car

reduces dramatically. For residents like Hillary Williams, car club

means she can get about and save money. What kind of journeys do you

use the car for? Things like going shopping, doctors appointments,

dentist, things like that. Is it saving you money, do you think?

definitely. We don't have to pay the road tax on a second car, which

we've given up. The amount amount we pay per mile with the car club,

works out at less than we pay for petrol. Car clubs seem a good idea,

but I'm not convinced they can replace the convenience of having

your own car, especially in a rural area. So like many families across

the UK, the Smiths believe they have no choice but to keep the car

running. It is beautiful around here Paul. Is that extra fuel cost

the price you pay for living in a place like this? It's a price you

have to pay to live here. There is no public transport that's viable.

You have to pay. Talking of transport, moving the

Dancing On Ice tour, that's a big deal. How do you do that? Irk it's

a big operation. There's a little man with ice cubes... No it's just

pipes, you pray water on it and it freezes. Sounds simple. Like a big

dish, about that thick though. luck with it any way. Thank you

both for coming in. The live tour starts in Newcastle on April 13th.