14/04/2016 The One Show

Tonight we're live from the jungle, aren't we? To be fair, we're still

in the one show studio, where just hiding in a few

in the one show studio, where just right? That's right. There is a good

reason we've done all this, our guests are two of the stars of the

brand-new Jungle book film. One lays the man cup Mowgli and the other

plays Bagheera. It's Neel Sethi and Sir Ben Kingsley!

Help tone does this make you feel, Neel? It makes me feel very good, I

feel at home. What about this crass? When you walked in, you went, and on

a minute. There is one scene where I been high grass and I was getting an

allergic reaction but it's really important scene so I had to act like

it was nothing, I was fine. And then I was just like ow, ow. He's such a

trooper, I love his performance in this. He is the heartbeat of the

film, you know, he gives a very intelligent, beautiful performance.

With things that aren't really with him in the studio, he was really...

You were all by yourself, where'd you? Yet, but sometimes there were

puppets, most of the time anyway. A lot of imagination on your part.

Without imagination you couldn't have done it. We have got the plants

sorted out. We're missing jungle wildlife. Animals. We've got a

friend called wildlife. Animals. We've got a

whenever we want exotic animals. Alex hates it. Mark has brought a

snake tonight, this is Laddy. I don't know how long

snake tonight, this is Laddy. I here for. Thanks, Mark. She's gone

already. You can now talk back, you can say, what are you doing all

alone in the jungle? Do you want to come over? My heart is pounding. Oh

my God, it feels real! I know, it has killed itself all around my

back. There is a scene in the film where it happens to do. He's like a

big muscle. Is he cold? where it happens to do. He's like a

well body temperature, isn't it? Do it, do it, do it! We're

colour-coordinated. There we are. If you want to give Laddy back. Mark,

if you wouldn't mind coming Beautiful. And dry. Not slimy.

Really dry. Lovely. From Beautiful. And dry. Not slimy.

to the high street. If you've been to your local pharmacy recently you

might have been asked to sign a petition warning many face close in

England Gaza changes to the way the NHS funded. -- closure in England

due to changes. Over the last 30 years there has

been a 24-hour revolution in Britain. It's now not unusual for

shops, restaurants and services to stay open around the clock. But if

you want a prescription, without having to go to A at two K M,

there is only one place in the whole country that can help you. In west

London. And the service it provides could revolutionise round-the-clock

health care. It's 11pm at night. The owner, Mr calf, is helping a taxi

driver. I need to go left and I need to go right. -- Mr Khan. I work

nights, so it easy for me to pop in. We meet the needs of people who are

working different shifts. I live 35 miles out of London but if I need to

link desperately enough I'll come here for it because I know I can get

it. Some people come off the plane and they need something so they come

here. We're really happy you are open. Tom Cruise came in two or

three days ago. It was the patients mission impossible to get a

perception in the middle of the night that inspired Mr Khan to open

his pharmacy for 24 hours. GPs go all night going to see patients,

they give them a prediction, what does the patient do? They haven't

got any where else to go. They keep the prescription, defeating the

object. That was one of the problems I saw many years ago. I thought,

right, OK, let's give it a try. Mr Khan offers a wider range of

services than you might expect from an average pharmacy. Is your knee

still bleeding? Would you like to come in and I'll just check? Oh

dear. This is bad, you need to cover it. You've got some toiling here as

well. There is no problem moving this? Like pain. This lady had a

fall about three hours ago, though she doesn't realise, I think it's

important she doesn't get any infection. We'll put a little

bandage here. This is the area which will go on top here. There are some

people who think they have to go to A In fact, there could be a

simple solution to their problem. If other pharmacies are open through

the night, they will take great pressure off the NHS. If the

pharmacy is not open, they have no choice, they will go to the A and

wait long hours, very expensive service. The pharmacy takes the

pressure of the NHS in other ways as well, vied in the morning after pill

around and palliative care for terminally ill patients. It is also

invaluable for other public services. Interestingly, who comes

at night, police officers, so they can come from any distance. They

come in police cars for people they hold in their police stations.

Sometimes three police cars are outside waiting for prescriptions.

It is 1:20am and this dad has a baby suffering from reflux. He's driven

with his friend 13 miles across London to get the treatment his

doctor recommended. Babies unfortunately don't know time so

they end up getting tired at random times, they wake up, she's got a

little bit of reflux. I ended up having to do stupid things like

this, come out and buy her medicines and try to soothe her so I can get

some sleep. Another 40 minute Drive back to give her milk and medicine.

And try and get sleep until she wakes up again. Pharmacies should

have a bigger role than what it has now. Their services should really be

nationally available. You don't feel like you are working as such, you

are enjoying it, it's nice. When somebody comes and says, you saved

my life, that pays for everything. Sorry, I get emotional on that, but,

yeah. Good I'm very passionate about pharmacy. He's such a nice man. Keep

up the good work, Mr Khan. I wonder what Tom cruises by Ian. The

Department of Health has extended its consultation period on the

future of pharmacies until the 24th of May. They want to see pharmacists

in care homes, GP surgeries and a and E. There is always the fear when

you hear your favourite film is about to be remade and you wonder if

they will do the original justice. Disney has remade one of their most

treasured family films from 1967. The Jungle book. We've worked out,

serve them, you were in your early 20s. I joined the way Shakespeare

company around that time, thank goodness. They were beautiful years

for me. We did four different shows a week. Eight shows a week. Four

Different Place, eight performances a week, sometimes we did a matinee

and evening of two different Place, therefore, I didn't see the

original, I didn't have time. Did you worry EU would be able to do the

original justice? My concern was with the book, that is where my

interests lie and where my passion lies. I love Kipling, I love his

prophet of the Empire ethos. And his version of manhood. Tragically, son

died in World War I, he never recovered from that. I think John

Favreau has got very close to the book. The child surrounded by wire

channels is what you see on the screen and in the book. We saw it

this morning, absolutely beautiful. I think it's only fair we let

everybody at home have a look. It's a honey stash for winter! Have

you lost your mind? You said you wouldn't get mad. Did you listen to

anything he taught you? There is no place in the jungle. If you want to

do this you do this in the man village. But I'm helping Baloo get

ready for hibernation. As don't hibernate in the jungle but are you

teaching him? Not hibernation, but I nap a lot. It's remarkable how you

can get that connection with CGI animals. We were never in the same

room together recording, so that seen with three of us in, we were

never in the same room together. I saw Bill Murray get into character.

And Sir Ben. I was like Whoa. They were like, hello, hello, then... You

stole the show, your performance is really good in it, brilliant

performers. 2000 children auditioned for this role. Yes. How did you hear

about it and what did you have to do on the day? I was on one of my first

dance classes, trying it out. The teacher was like, you are amazing

for this role, you are exactly like Mowgli. I was like, OK, I'd never

thought about acting and never auditions. I tried out. John said,

I'm taking his line in every interview, I'm charismatic and fun

to watch. And he was right. You are so gymnastic or in the movie, do a

lot of... I had to train two weeks before we started in to three macro.

I would run around and do all that crazy stuff at home, so they don't

need me to do all that stuff in a real gym. When I get home from

filming I'm tired, but I still play my mini hoop or something like that.

You've really got to do vocal gymnastics, Dubai, there is no

physical element, it has to come through the voice. How did you fall

on that voice? I know Kipling the author of the book, was very fond of

and fascinated by the military. He felt the military was a great career

for a young man. Therefore, I secretly called him Colonel

Bagheera. Who has under his charge a great recruit, who he will train to

fight and defend himself in battle. And bring him home safely. That's my

priority. OK. You can hear it. It's an amazing cast as well as yourself.

Bill Murray as Baloo, Idris Elba, Scarlett Johansson. You were the

star, who is two was the nicest to you out of all of them? I can't pick

it, but Sir Ben always come committed the and I didn't know what

to say back, so I was like, thank you. And then I'm going to get is

really good condiment for you. I got it. Did you feel overwhelmed or were

you just excited? A little bit, little overwhelming. Because I've

never done this. It was my first time being with famous people and I

had to act a little cool, then I went to the bathroom and I was

like... Oh my God! What do your friends make of this? Have you seen

them much since? After filming... It's been two years since filming.

I've been home doing my normal school stuff, homework and stuff

like that. All my friends think it's amazing and they are like, are you

sure you're the same Neel I know? They still treat me like a normal

kit, which is good. My best friend still asks if I want to go to the

park. -- normal kid. It has been criticised as too scary

for young children, we didn't think so. The Wizard of Oz made me...! You

are right, storytelling for children is supposed to prepare them in some

way for life as well as entertain them and keep them in enthralment.

It's a beautifully redemptive story, the boy triumphs totally in the film

and if you stay with it the roller-coaster of emotions is very

pleasing and rewarding. I feel like if you can watch the trailer and

don't think it's that scary you could watch the movie no problem.

Because they show the most intense part in the trailer. It's a very

good point, if you like the trailer, go and see the Jungle book. It's in

cinemas from tomorrow, how exciting. This has got me feeling really

animated, are you feeling animated? I am. Long before Walt Disney turned

his attention to Baloo I am. Long before Walt Disney turned

even before creating Mickey Mouse... He created a

even before creating Mickey Mouse... called Oswald. The film that

unleashed the most famous mouse in the world was Steamboat Willy.

Behind the creation of Mickey Mouse lies the story of a bitter ownership

dispute and a lost Disney character. In 1927 Universal Studios

commissioned Walt Disney to devise a new cartoon character. The creation

was Oswald the lucky rabbit. But the story of Oswald would be a tale of

what might have been. In many ways, Oswald was the unlucky rabbit.

The history of Oswald is absolutely crucial not just the history of the

Disney company, but to the history of animation. Because through Oswald

the rabbit a new style of animation came to be. Trolley troubles is one

of the best examples, you see this trolley car running out of control,

the animals fall out and land in the valley below. Some people would say

Oswald was one of the first personality cartoon characters. He

could be happy, angry, devious, cheeky. He was a human being,

really. More human character than he was a rabbit. The Oswald films

became very very successful. Kipling and Oswald soon found

himself the target of love Bunny in a contract dispute between Walt

Disney and Universal Studios. Oswald's superstar starters did take

a hammering. In 1928 Walt Disney clashed with universal when they

wanted to cut the budget for Oswald. Disney decided to leave and take his

rabbit with him. Only then did he discover that his contract stated he

did not own Oswald. He decided to get one over on Universal. According

to Disney, on the train back home after his showdown with Universal,

he dreamt up a rodent replacement for his unfortunate rabbit. Disney

changed Oswald enough to create a new character. The newcomer was a

certain Mickey Mouse. And what do you know, he looks a little bit like

Oswald. Slightly trimmed ears, different trousers and shoes, but a

definite similarity. It is incredible to think that arguably

the most famous cartoon character of all time was born from a contract

dispute. Walt Disney made 26 Oswald films before falling out with

Universal. One third of them now seem to have been lost, until last

year when one of the titles, called sleigh bells, was discovered here,

tucked away deep in the archives of the British film Institute. Robin

Baker is head during tough. This is actually it. You are looking at the

only surviving copy of sleigh bells. It is cinema history. It might not

tell a brand-new story about Disney but it provides a few more links in

understanding the evolution of Disney's style, and given that this

is the precursor of Mickey Mouse, to me it feels one of the great missing

links. Like copies of the films, Oswald merchandise is also rare. But

the Antiques road show presenter is the proud owner of an original

Oswald toys. He is quite new to me. I bought him at auction four years

ago. I collect rabbits, I have 50 or 60. He makes me happy to look at

him. If my maths is right, he is over 80. He was in wonderful

condition. Well, except for... The feet look as if they have been

nibbled a bit. Not his fault. It was a real rabbit. A rabbit I called

Percy must have been lonely and probably recognised Oswald as

another rabbit. Nibble. That was it. I hope I get to be as happy as you

when I am 80. I hope I get to be 80! The magic of Disney's earliest

animation still sparkles. Helped by the rediscovery of films like this,

Oswald is finally getting the recognition he deserves. Well, from

some of us at least. That is a brilliant film. Larry Lamb

should be a cartoon character with a name like that.

We're joined by film critic Antonia Quirke

So Antonia, Mickey Mouse was based on Oswald the rabbit,

but you're here to tell us about some other famous cartoon

characters who were based on real life people

See if you can guess which cartoon character this man inspired. This

man lived in a town in Illinois, and he ran a bath. He worked in a saloon

and he would drag his chair into the sun. He would sit there with his

pipe and the children would come and prod him. It would be fisticuffs. We

know, so you will have to ask everyone else. It is Popeye. It

certainly is. He was drawn by a man from the same town in Chester,

Illinois. And he did not eat spinach. The voice has or has been

hotly contested. We know about the voice of the next one. He appeared

on the silver screen for the first time with one of my favourites. Tell

us about this lady. This is Betty Boop. Actually, that is Helen Kane,

one of the inspirations for Betty Boop. Betty Boop was originally

inspired by a French poodle. And you can see her little ears. In later

incarnations, because she was enormously successful, you can see

that they turned the poodle in years into hooped earrings. That is a lot

better. If you hear the voice, let's have a listen to Helen Kane, the

actress, and see how much that was inspired by her.

# I could tell. #

Was that her normal voice? I think it was. It could get a little

grating after a while! We have one more. Yes, Tintin. The great Belgian

illustrator, Herge, when he first drew Tintin, the year before, a

Danish schoolboy won a competition to circumnavigate the globe in 46

days. His name was Palle Huld. He did it in 46 days using everything

but aeroplanes. He was following in the footsteps of Phineas Fogg. This

was a competition he won. He became an actor and made 40 films in

Denmark and was the inspiration for Tintin. Although it is a very

litigious area and people are always suing each other for stolen ideas.

Well, we will go with that theory. Last week, Alex Riley met some

graffiti grannies who sprayed biodegradable paint on the road to

highlight potholes. Apparently, defining a pothole is not as easy as

it may seem. We will let Sarah Mack fill you in.

It is just over 40 millimetres deep, in the middle-of-the-road and

severely lacking in tarmac. You know what it is, right? A pothole in need

of repair. Well, it was yesterday, but not any longer, because from

today the pothole goalposts have shifted. Here in Kinross, the

council has changed the depth at which one must be fixed. It used to

be anything over 40 millimetres. Now they will only repair potholes more

than 60 millimetres deep, they will only repair potholes more

until he is grown up a bit. That they will only repair potholes more

set to save the council an estimated ?120,000 in the coming year but it

has not gone down well with everyone. Local driving instructor

Mike Smart says they should just fix them. Most days, I do not get far

before I run into a pothole. It is more cost-effective to sort it when

it is small. Has your car suffered damage? During a lesson, I had a

customer who went over a pothole, got a shock when it happened. I had

to get a new tyre. The council say they will fix potholes that pose a

danger to the public, regardless of depth. They say the 16mm change

gives them flexibility where the level of risk might be judged to be

lower. Everyone agrees they are a problem but no one can agree on when

a pothole needs mending. Of the highway agencies in England Scotland

and Wales, they agree on a depth of 40 millimetres for the main roads

they look after. But councils can set their own limits for roads which

they maintain. And while it is 40 millimetres in North Lincolnshire,

in Liverpool, 25 millimetres is considered the enough for fixing. In

Nottingham, considered the enough for fixing. In

twice as deep, but they considered the enough for fixing. In

300 millimetres across, too. 300 millimetres across, too.

potholes matter, particularly if you are travelling on two wheels. Ricky

Garcia and Phil Thomas have cycled the country lanes around Liverpool

together for nearly 50 years. But two years ago, Ricky met his

nemesis. I hit the pothole and it jarred the front of my bike and sent

me over the top. I landed on my collar bone. I carried on. I went to

A and they said, you have a complete break. There are

A and they said, you have a everywhere. Cities, minor

A and they said, you have a main roads. They want to get into

the country lane areas where most cyclists would want to ride. The

the country lane areas where most roads are absolutely dreadful.

Cycling charities and drivers' groups want potholes filled fast

without need for a tape measure, and the Government seems to agree. Last

week it pledged ?250 million repair potholes in England. But

critics but the true cost of fixing the problem across Britain at 12

billion. One of the counties to benefit from the new fund is

Northumberland, where they are already putting the money to work.

The council is using its ?1 million from the fund to launch a pothole

patrol. Over the next four months they are going to fix as many as

3000 potholes. Highways inspector Mitch Young is leading the team. How

many can you do in a day? 200 in a day. Other councils are struggling.

How are you affording to do this? Once you get the guys and equipment

on the job, you do a whole swathe of them. We are very cost-effective. We

have to be. Last year, the national figures for England cost about ?52

to repair a pothole. We average ?15. They cause problems for road users

and a headache for people on bikes and motorbikes. Do the team get a

sense of achievement? I think so. This is a good set of lads and they

take the job seriously. Time for me to leave these guys to get on with

the job. Thanks to them, my journey home will be a lot smoother.

We now know all about the depth of potholes. You can buy bags of it in

DIY stores. You can just tip it in. But then the council will come an

empty because you are not allowed to do it. True. We would love to know

what your plans are next. What do you like to do? Dancing, or more

acting? I definitely want to do more acting but they also want to be a

dentist, like my parents. But I also want to be a basketball player,

football player. I have this funny tingle. Maybe you can have a look in

about 20 years. May be the same question to you. What will I do when

I am grown up? What is next? Actually, I have to go to Copenhagen

to finish the film I am making now. I had time out to do this press

junket, but now I go back to finish a film about the United Nations oil

for food scandal during the Iraq war. It is a political thriller,

extraordinary. It has been lovely to have you on the show. We thoroughly

enjoyed it. Thank you for stopping in on your way to Copenhagen. Thank

you to you both for sharing tales from the Jungle book, which is in

cinemas from tomorrow. I will be here with Patrick Kielty tomorrow,

talking to Michael McIntire all about his Big Show. Shall we get the

snake back? No.