14/05/2012 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

Our guest tonight is the king of the royal interview.

So far he's managed to sit down with Princess Eugenie.

Prince Andrew. Princess Anne.

Prince Edward. Prince William.

Prince Charles. And last year Prince Phillip for

his 90th birthday. And now it seems he's focusing on the Queen herself.

It's Alan Titchmarsh! Don't hold your breath, she doesn't do

interviews! She has never had one. What are the chances of you doing

it? Non-! It is very wise, it is keeping the mystery of monarchy and

that is half the secret. What you have been doing over the last few

days will not hurt. I have been presenting the Diamond Jubilee

pageant and when South. We finished last night with the Queen and the

Duke watching. 1241 people watching from all over the world, from Chile

to Abba's I -- Azerbaijan. Welcome to a historic occasion.

look so smart! I clean up well. The Mounties were wonderful. We can see

this on the telly. Yes, on the Jubilee weekend, on the other

side... I am sorry about that! looks great. It is so moving. That

is the Queen's carriages from Balmoral and places like that, it

is just a feast. It makes you think, I am so glad to be a part of it.

will be talking about that shortly. According to Alan's book, all we

need to know about the Queen is hiding in plain sight. More later.

But first we've got a film that will rile any nature lover. It's

about the rise in the illegal trapping of wild British songbirds.

Miranda Krestovnikoff has been to meet those trying to stamp out a

crime that should be a thing of the past.

Keeping wild songbirds as pets reached a peak in popularity in the

Victorian era and it hundreds of thousands been caught to supply

demand. This caused the population to collapse and halting their

decline became a priority for conservationists. Finally

culminating in the 1954 wild birds Protection Act, making it illegal

to trap them. Today, all birds sold legally must be renewed to satisfy

that they are captive-bred but this has not stopped the illegal trade

in British songbirds -- ringed. Many songbirds are sold across

Europe, including in mortar. It also feeds a black market. With his

appearance disguised, an RSPCA officer has agreed to tell us what

he has seen first-hand. A lot of birds are sold at roadshows and

that might be inside the halls and very often outside from car-boot

sales, and we can determine who they are and where they are

operated from. How bad is the situation? People can make tens of

thousands every year. One involved a Maltese national who had come

over specifically to buy birds from bird trappers. We caught him with

over 800 wild birds, mainly chaffinches. He was given to sell

them in his British boat shops in Malta or, and that was �40,000

worth in one consignment. In the last ten years, the increase in

demand for British songbirds means the price has doubled and now they

can fetch up to �70 each. For the criminals, it is less about

enthusiasts keen to improve their collections and more about money,

trapping the birds with little regard for the welfare. The

enforcement agencies often rely upon public tip-offs. Most of the

bird trapping is done in rural locations but it could be on your

neighbour's shed, in their gardens and allotments. The problem is,

they all look very different and people may not realise what they

are looking at. Sometimes almost invisible methods, like glue, are

used, which causes severe stress to the bird and often results in

injury. This bird luckily made a full recovery. We have a drop trap

here. It is alive but that has already been caught and it would be

put in there, to attract the others to come down. The birds that were

attracted go into the stick and inside, and that closes the lid

behind them. Two more wild birds trapped. This was evidenced in one

of the inspector's most recent cases, along with this footage.

When the RSPCA and the police raided 67-year-old Malcolm

Spencer's property, they found 61 wild songbirds. Traps were

strategically placed around his allotment. The birds were kept in

terrible conditions and many were behaving erratically, typical

behaviour of trapped wild birds. He was not charged with trading the

birds but just last month, Malcolm Spencer pleaded guilty to 34

charges. Including causing unnecessary suffering. Keeping wild

bird traps... And the possession of 18 different species of wild

British birds. Every year, without exaggeration, thousands, if not

tens of thousands of wild birds are trapped for the illegal what

betrayed. This is cruelty on a big scale. -- wild bird trade. In the

last three years, convictions have doubled. This gold finch was seized

in one of those cases but today, she is able to be released back

into the wild. Birds like this goldfinch almost became extinct in

certain parts of the country during Victorian times because of trapping.

Let's just hope we don't see history repeat itself.

What a wonderful note to finish on with that goldfinch. How can people

help? It is quite shocking. We need people to stop supporting this

illegal trade. If you are thinking of buying a bird, if you are unsure,

walk away, contact the RSPCA. Ask questions of the person who is

selling the bird, ask for a proper recede, information that it has

been bred legitimately in captivity. Look at the behaviour, those birds

were behaving erratically because they are wild. They should all have

a ring around the lake and this is really important, to look at the

shape of the ring. If it is the wrong shape, it may have been

tampered with and if it is too big, it may have been put on later in

life. We have some pictures of sake It is unbelievable that anybody can

buy them. That is quite shocking. If you want to apply for a ring,

you have to fill in a very simple form providing your name and

address and anybody can fake that but the RSPCA wants this

application process to be tightened up. Who is doing this and where?

There are possibly hundreds of people around the country doing

this. Some hot spots: Derbyshire, Scotland and London. A lot of

people involved in this. Have you encountered this? No. I know about

people pinching birds eggs but not this, and by providing food in your

garden you can get loads of them. I have fed daily birds for ten years.

We have lots of blackbirds, goldfinches, even house sparrows.

We call the tree Tower Hamlets because it is full of birds and it

is costing me a fortune because it is worth it! They are gorgeous, so

curious. Much better in the wild. There is a lighter songbird news.

Some birds in Wales... If I could say that place, I would be

confused! The weather has been causing havoc with the wildlife but

some chiffchaffs have been singing the wrong song! At this time, they

should be singing like this, chiffchaff, chiffchaff. Basically,

the birds think it is autumn because of the rain and they are

doing a different call, like a whistle, like a contact call rather

than a mating call and this may affect their breeding but we just

do not know at the moment. Hopefully the weather will calm

down and they will go back. Plants do that as well, they settle after

a while and it evens itself out. I have daffodils still out in the

garden and it is mate! The little ones that come out early. It's his

upside-down. It always has been, really -- it is all upside down.

will be having Christmas before long.

On Wednesday, McDonald's are launching a new "no added sugar"

juice drink for kids, but they are already under fire for the amount

of sugar it naturally contains. It shows how tough it is to make sure

your family is just sweet enough, and our One Show family's no

exception. You may remember our One Show

family, the Hankinsons. In the past we have put them through their

paces, challenging them to live on �50 a week. It has felt like three

years! Reducing their salt intake. You are claiming that up! And now

the family have agreed to adjust their diet again, this time

reducing their sugar intake. Could this be their toughest challenge

yet? Sugar actually has no nutritional content so it is just

empty calories in our die yet. There is a big link between a high

sugar content diet and diabetes, obesity, dental decay and peptic

ulcers, and it can even know your immune system. Have you thought

about sugar before? Yes but because they have a healthy diet, it is

nice to have chocolate and biscuits. I will show you how much sugar you

guys have in your diet. Every week, one, two, two of those. Roughly

twice what you should be having. don't see where it comes from!

the Hankinsons are eating their way through twice the recommended

amount of sugar every week, so the challenge now is to get that down

to the guidelines. While looking at a shopping list, we found should be

in some unlikely places, for example, adding a dollop of catch-

up to your chips is the famous four grams of sugar, and quenching of

first with cordial is six teaspoons of sugar. But help is at hand in

form of this nutritionist, who will help Tracey reduce her family's

sugar intake. They are really confusing. This label says for

every 100 grams. For food to be low in sugar it needs to be under five

grams per hundred grams. If it is over 15, it is bad. This is well

above. The government recommends a maximum of 19% of your calories

come from sugar and this can quickly mount up when there are

two-and-a-half teaspoons in a basic pasta sauce and four teaspoons in a

Lausanne yet ready meal. Another misconception is reduced -- in a

pastor ready meal. They count towards your total sugar

consumption so even if it says "no added sugar", you need to read the

label. I know it does have sugar but it is something I like the

children to have as part of their five a day. 1 small glass is your

five a date and anything over than that, it gets into your extra sugar

category, and in general, when you see all of these added things, I

would be suspicious. Armed with some low sugar recipes and swapping

their chocolate with yoghurt, the family are ready to stop their

challenge. OK, boys. Try the pudding and see what do you think.

It is the worst pudding ever. have not even tried it.

This is George's packed lunch, with his apple, his sandwich, his water

instead of his juice, and his chocolate orange muffin which is

low in sugar. He has eaten it all. Time to find out how cutting their

sugar intake by half has gone. Was it harder than you expected?

thought it would be really tough and I wasn't looking forward to it

with the children but it was just planning and changing what we ate.

It is simple things like, instead of giving them a chocolate biscuit

when they come home from school, make a sandwich. Give them milk

instead of fruit juice. congratulate them on completing

their task, I have one last treat. This is the taste test. Choose one

from each and I wanted to tell me which has got the most should be in

and which is low sugar. # Sugar, honey, honey #.

Which play it was a high sugar? -- which played? This one? You are

wrong! After all of this week, are we expecting a low sugar diet to

continue in the Hankinson house? Even low were! You know what, I

really thought they would struggle with that this week but may be

cutting down the amount of sugar is one of those things we think will

be harder than it really gives. Well done to them. Thank you to

Simon. How is your sugar intake? Does honey Count? Yes. I have honey

on my porridge. Half has been as sugar in my morning coffee. And

then the chocolate after-dinner and night. What about some Jubilee

treats? Only if you force me! Not very often. You can take some home.

There's an enormous amount of Jubilee staff at the moment,

including your book, Elizabeth: Her Life, our Times. It takes an

interesting slant on punctuating it with her words even though you've

never interviewed her. A to a core of her messages. They are available

on her website. Price sat down and read all of the Queen's the

speeches over the 60 years of her reign. We often think at Christmas

Day the Queen is going on. If you sit down and read them, they are

very interesting, they speak of the times. From 1953 to the present day.

They are of the Times, they smack of the period, but she has

remarkable foresight, spotting the way things are going. How much of

the change on a personal level? has changed in the way we have

changed. It is like a scrapbook of her reign, but our life as well. It

shows how we have changed and the monarchy has changed. We have all

got a little bit more relaxed, even the Queen. I've talked to her

children and grandchildren, her attitude to them is different to

what it was when they were growing up. I'm sure the public expectation

of how the royals should behave has changed. Charles did the weather

report on Thursday. How do you think that would have gone down in

the 1950s? Some people picked at him for doing it now. Come on!

Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, he is a good egg. It is

like the Duke of Edinburgh and his so-called gaffes. He has most of us

in stitches. We said you interviewed him, what was he like?

Tough because he hates talking about himself. I got to the end of

this hour and 15 minutes of speaking to him, thinking it was

hard. He put me through my paces. I worked out why. I realised in the

end, having talked to members of his family, he genuinely hates

talking about himself. Talk to him about his interests, conservation,

planting trees, and he will rabbit on like the rest of us. He will not

talk about himself because he has always seen his role as being as

support to the Queen. As she said in one of her speeches, he has been

her strength. You're a big royalist. Unashamedly a sympathetic?

Sympathetic and celebratory. I am not uncritical, but I do rate what

they've done. I have got to know the Prince of Wales quite well and

he works like a Trojan. He is so committed to this country. He has

been judged in the past on an unfortunate marriage and nothing

else. If people looked at what he has achieved, he is a good man. He

has got this country's interests at heart. Do you feel you want to

those critics in the book? I hope so. There will always be people who

say it is friendly, but I hope it is an insight. You catch more Fitch

by tickling trout than wading in with a club. -- fish. The Queen

said to be month -- the Queen said to me once, and she could not

understand it, when people talked about her top a way it can trainers,

she said we are not Hollywood. -- the Tupperware containers. The book,

Elizabeth: Her Life, our Times, is out now. Each week on the One Show

we've been following the Falklands war as it happened 30 years ago.

This week sees Britain moving towards a full-scale military

The peace talks are under way again at the UN. Mrs Thatcher says it may

be the last chance we've got -- we have gone as far as we can. There

is no deadline for these talks, but The ships throughout orange flames

and covering fire. Salvo after salvo of high explosives, each

heading into the darkness. 20 at a time, one shell every two seconds.

A tempo designed to terrify us much Argentine television film was that

everything was normal in Port Stanley. The authorities say

repeated bombardment from the Royal Navy task force have not disrupted

everyday life, nor caused much damage. Military officials are

bracing themselves for full-scale attack by Britain when

reinforcements arrive off the islands. For it is widely accepted

in Whitehall that be at peace or war over the Falklands, the

ultimate result will be the same, eventual Arvind time -- Argentine

sovereignty. But the prime minister seems to have different ideas.

Eventually they were working towards handing it over. I beg your

pardon? Did you really say that eventually Britain would leave

these people to be under the heel of a junta if they did not wish it?

Those were words I never thought to hear. For the British are seeking

to show they've gone the extra mile and to blame Argentina -- Argentina

and dialler -- entirely. The ambassador here is suddenly

Westminster by a member of the Cabinet, Cecil Parkinson. You've

just come from the Cabinet, has there been any late news? None the

time going to discuss. The most curious report confirmed by the men

-- MoD is the crash-landing over seeking helicopter in the Magellan

Strait between Argentina and Chile. The curious thing about it is the

aircrew should have decided to destroy their helicopter before

they left it and that they didn't then give themselves up to the

Chileans, who are neutral. Our correspondents as the crew may have

thought they had landed in Argentina. It is very mysterious,

particularly as Argentina is 80 miles away. The government is going

to attempt to repossess the Falklands by force. Although Mrs

Thatcher didn't say it in the Commons, there can be no doubt the

order has gone to the admiral. Pick your time, pick your weather, and

go for the Argentine garrison at such speed and determination that

you either scare them into surrender or force the Argentine

When we started a look back at the Falklands, we asked you to send in

your Falklands photos and we have got a few of them we have received.

Extraordinary images. This is the first one. Mark Stevens's ship, HMS

Antrim, was hit by 1,000 Bekoji bomb but failed to explode. It

shows me looking through the whole of the bomb. You can't believe it.

This next one is from Michelle Kerr. A picture of my dad, who was with 3

Para, returning home after the war had ended. That is my sister and I

cry in our eyes out. We were so pleased to have him home. Lovely

picture. The third one is from sub Lieutenant Peter Armstrong. He says,

I was Saxons stations flight deck officer on board a gym is that the

DUP. The most important part of the equipment is the enamel mug to make

sure you have hot drinks. haven't got any time for more

unfortunately, but keep them coming. Over the past few months, Phil

Tufnell has been searching for Britain's most unusual artists.

Tonight he meets a man called moose on his mission to clean up the

Graffiti is a contentious issue. Some say the people doing it are

artists, while some say they are criminals in need of an ASBO. But

Paul Curtis, also known as Moose, has hit upon an ingenious method of

creating environmentally-friendly graffiti without leaving a mark. In

fact, he removes marks, he uses high-powered water jets -- water

jets to clean areas. He calls it grime lighting. I've come to see

his latest creation on the front of an old police station in Bristol.

What is the process? What we are doing is removing marks from the

walls. It is actually the opposite of graffiti. Graffiti is based

around adding something and my belief is there is already so much

stuff here that we can work with what is there. By doing that, you

take away the criminal element and you replace it with something

positive. It is a bit like graffiti, Just to be clear, we are not doing

anything illegal. No, this has been sanctioned by Bristol City Council.

Very kind of them. I'm not doing any harm. I'm restoring something

selectively. Have you ever got in trouble? I've been stopped a few

times by the police. They tell me I'm committing criminal damage. I

say are many committing criminal damage to the dirt. They say I'm

leaving marks, I say I'm removing marks. I say if they want to get on

to the people that made the marks, they caused the pollution. News has

permission from the owners of these walls to make his murals. So please

don't try this yourself on someone else's walls without their say-so.

You're happy you have got him out there cleaning the streets? Really

happy he's in Bristol. You get positive reactions from all sorts

of people. They find it very interesting. He started plying his

trade in Leeds, but the local council disapproved. But his work

has taken him all round the world, from New Orleans to Slovakia. He

has even won commissions from the Met Police to contributed 2007's

Trident anti-gun campaign. Some people would say it is vandalism,

what do you say? I feel like I have brought alive areas where people

have never spent a second's thought. There's never any care in these

places. By spending a little bit of time, you can create something that

is really unexpected and beautiful in a place where in the past there

has just been nothing. I never look at myself as a vandal, I'm a

selective restoration person. you trying to outdo Banksy? No, but

it might try to... Time to let him get on with it and finish their

That's it. Finished. I hope the locals like it. It is such a dirty

building, it is a shame it hasn't been cleaned up and properly looked

after for a long time. It is really nice to see they have made

something beautiful out of it. is fantastic. It adds to it. The

building is not exactly Buckingham Palace. If you're going to have a

dirty well, you might as well have a pattern on it, I like it. We did

wonder how he was going to get around the hosepipe ban so we rang

him, but he has moved to China. will be a very busy man next week.

Chelsea Flower Show. They have a borehole. They have got their own

water. Have you poke your nose in? Not yet. I go very, very early on

the Sunday morning and stay for the week. We are on the BBC every night

next week. I like to be surprised. I used to read the guides before,

but now I don't. I take in the garden and then read it. Have you

heard from Dermot? The pyramid thing. The Damien Hirst of the

gardening world. They are installations. Artist's impression.

It has not as mad as last year. doesn't move in the air on a crane.

He wants to get about 150 Chelsea Pensioners up there! We will be