14/08/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show, with Matt Baker...

A big thanks to the people of Northern Ireland for making our

Great people, great weather and it's fair to say we enjoyed the food.

Our guests would have loved to have been their eating and enjoying the

local legacies. Please welcome Nadiya Hussain

and Rosemary Shrager! Nice to see you. You should have

been with us in Northern Ireland. I love Northern Ireland. It's lovely.

Where have you been, Nadiya? We were in Crete. My husband said, you

cannot cook for seven days. You are not allowed near the kitchen. I

lasted two days. They were in the swimming pool, I deliberately coaxed

them in early. I said, we are just go to go for a walk. I came back

with garlic, onions and tomatoes. So you were self catering, initially?

Mine was filming in Thailand. Really? Just got back. A bit of jet

lag, but OK. And speaking of family, you have your lovely grandchildren?

I have! Hello. Are you grandma? Has she been cooking for you? What was

the best thing she made for you? The potatoes. What is the secret? They

love my potatoes. But, parsley, gorgeous things. They just love it.

Toss them in the pan, keep them going. They love them. Nice to have

you with us. In 15 minutes or so, Anita Rani will

give us an insight into part two of her documentary on the partition of

India and her journey of discovery. Now how many of you watched

the Premier League get off Or put your feet up to catch up

on a boxset or the latest The question is - how

many of you were actually paying If, like millions of

others you weren't, Open the door! From blockbuster

movies... Two Premier League football matches. Pay-per-view TV

has never been more popular. But do you always have to pay to watch what

you want? Well, not according to the 7 million or so people in the UK

illegally streaming the latest films, video and sport online, using

one of these. Set-top boxes like this, sold by many major retailers,

are perfectly legal. It is the way you use them that might not be.

These boxes are running media sharing software that you download

from the internet. This one is called Kodi and is one of the most

popular. At this point, you have done nothing wrong, you can watch

Netflix, iPlayer, Amazon, all completely legal. It is when you set

up some of the add-ons that allow you to stream pirated video content

that you are straying into troubled waters. I'm not going to preach to

you. Even I have thought about buying one of these boxes. I think

we all know at least one person that has want to watch the football or

the latest movies. But do I really want to take the risk? It used to be

the sellers of boxes preloaded with illegal apps that got into trouble.

Now the law is closing in on those that use them. The government passed

a new law in April under the digital, the act and it was a real

game changer. Now if you are using a set-top box to access stuff you

should be paying for, you could face a 10-year stretch at her majesties

pleasure. Ten years for watching Game of Thrones! I mean, it's

good... But it's not that good! Last month, the Premier League was

awarded a High Court blocking order requiring UK internet service

providers to stop people from accessing illegally streamed

matches. Anybody caught watching would be cut off. But what are the

chances people will actually get prosecuted? Alice works for the

Federation Against Copyright Theft, which is coordinating a crackdown. I

understand why you are doing this. I work in the creative industry. But

aren't you being heavy-handed? Are you going to send people to jail? It

used to be a grey area. But the law is now very black and white. It is a

crime and it is illegal. The last 12 months have been significant for us.

We have been making real headway. We had our first prosecution of a man

selling the devices and he is imprisoned for four years. Companies

like Amazon, eBay and, most recently, Facebook, now ban the sale

of any device that facilitates access to illegal streaming. It is

this enough to stop people doing it? Would you use one of these? I have

in the past. What do you watch? Movies, that kind of stuff. Sport.

Mostly sport. There are so many different ways to stream, every time

they crack down on it they will find a way around it. Do you think it is

a good idea? It's a good idea, you can get loads of films. Until you

get caught. Until I see somebody getting ten years for this, I'm

going to do it. If users are not worried about the consequences,

should we be looking for other solutions? That is the view of this

man, who campaigns against strict copyright laws. Until now, content

providers have wanted to block things down, small services. Come

and buy my service. Consumers wanted freedom. That is what these set-top

boxes provide. Just because the content is online, doesn't mean they

have to give it away for free. Don't they deserve to get paid? They

absolutely deserve to get paid. The way to do that is innovation, not

prosecution. That will get them the revenue that they want. Back to the

question, would I take the risk? It is a no from me. I wouldn't eat in a

restaurant and not pay my bill, I wouldn't watch a football match and

not pay for my ticket. You might not agree with it, but it is against the

law. Although they haven't prosecuted any viewers yet, the

safest way to go is switching off the illegal stream.

Rory is here now. We heard that no user has been prosecuted yet. But is

it going to happen soon? As we are hearing, people are going to have to

be made an example of? This is what we are worried about. They passed

the law in April saying people selling a fully loaded boxes could

get knocked two years in jail but ten years in jail. Also the people

using the boxes could fall foul of that. They are increasing their

ability to prosecute people. The next logical step is for consumers

to get caught in that. At the moment, it is difficult to identify

who is watching at home. But you are never totally anonymous on the

internet, are you? When they prosecute people selling the boxes,

then you could get swept up in that. If they have records of who has

bought the boxes, they have your name, your credit card details or

your address, suddenly you are a witness and potentially implicit in

the crime. That would be if the boxes were fully loaded? Absolutely.

Service providers are trying to help. Lots of people have bought the

boxes in order to watch the football over the weekend and then some

people will have been disappointed because they couldn't watch the

football. What happened? It was breaking News, wasn't it? We had

breaking news today that the Premier League are working very closely with

internet service providers to stop streams of Premier League football

matches. Over the weekend, they blocked 600 individual streams that

were broadcasting these matches. A load of people with the boxes would

have been quite disappointed when they found out they could not access

their favourite match. The Premier League are working on that. People

like Amazon, eBay, they are stopping people from selling fully loaded

boxes on their website. So, there is a massive crackdown happening right

now and it is only going to get bigger and bigger. There are some

concerns about the safety of them? There was a raid not too long ago

and they looked at the boxes they seized and found out there was a

risk of fire, electrocution and also hacking. You open yourself up to all

sorts of things like identity theft, it is a dodgy world. As if a ?10,000

fine or ten years in jail isn't enough, your house goes on fire.

What is your signature dish? State, I make the second-best stake in the

world. As long as you have a TV licence,

you can watch their brand-new show tomorrow on the BC two.

I have taste the food of many chefs, but family cooking, this is where

real food comes from. Home cooking does something that fine dining does

not. It creates heart within the home. She's eating ingredients!

Bringing the family together. These families make ordinary food

extraordinary. Delicious. I learned something today. The judges have

made a decision. APPLAUSE We are excited about this one. Give

us the lowdown on The Big Family Cooking Showdown. 12 episodes, 16

families, 120 recipes. Tomorrow night, BBC Two? In a nutshell, what

is the series? OK, well, I would say it is about family cooking. It's

about family home life. Also, it is showing us what they can do, the

techniques. For me, it is about the relationship between the families,

how much enjoyment they get in cooking together. Also, the fact is,

the diversity of British food. These people are British, we have them

from all over the world. Swedish, everywhere, Italian. You name it,

we've got it. It was fantastic. So we learned an awful lot. We have a

journey ourselves. Giorgio and I, it was hysterical. We had to look up

some of the stuff. We had to ask Nadiya quite a few things, the

Indian lot, because we didn't know some of the spices. We know quite a

lot, but you don't know everything, believe me. It's about the family,

going to their homes. Three family members? Three family members. The

differences it is a competition, but probably the least competitive

competition. Everybody wants everybody to do really well. On each

side, there are three members in each team and they are comprised of

grandparents, children, Mum and dad. That is what is lovely. It is so

different. Everybody is talking together, what have you brought

along? I think it's very amusing, who is the boss of the kitchen? Who

is the pot washer, who is the boss? They do the dishes at the end? They

have to be organised and clean, or they wouldn't get it done. Some were

so messy. Are their people doing rounds? At the beginning they have

the ?10 challenge, they had a budget of ?10. It's about cooking in a

budget. In the first episode, we go to their homes. When it is family

cooking, you want to see them cooking at home. You can be nosy? I

checked everybody's bathroom, it says a lot about them, everybody's

downstairs loo. And then you come back and they are cooking again.

That's the thing, we go through the families. This is the first

challenge. The three challengers for the first lot, then say this family

is going to the next round. It is quite a long haul. But you've got to

stick with it. You've got to invest some time. It's worth it because it

is such fun. Giorgio is such fun to work with. Here's as bonkers as me.

I get nervous in front of him. He's one of the most famous pasta chefs

in the world. He is absolutely brilliant. In the first episode,

they were doing Italian food, quite scary. Tell us about tomorrow

night's families. We've got them in the audience.

Betty, you ended up as the boss of your family. Was that your idea? It

came quite naturally, actually. Somebody has to keep these two in

check. She has a tendency to wander off. What relation is Jean? My mum,

and Dan is my husband. You ended up cooking pasta for one of the best

pasta chefs in the world. Whose plan was that? Well, we didn't actually

know that we were going to be cooking for Giorgio. It was funny!

Slightly nerve-racking. Then we have Mark's family. You are the boss,

aren't you? Who are you talking to? You! I wouldn't say so! You are the

oldest contestant. Who is the youngest? They are 15. You are the

boss in life, in general? Well, that's different. We love Torun

already. We wish you all of the best. We haven't long to wait.

That begins at eight o'clock on BBC Two.

This week marks the 70th anniversary of Independence of India after 200

This partition led to the mass migration of millions of people and

causing violence. One of our viewers got in touch

to tell us of their incredible viewpoint as a key moment

in history unfolded. 70 years ago, 90-year-old Neville

Ramsey climbed a war memorial to witness a seismic moment in history,

the independence and partition of India. Fortunately for us he took

his camera with him. And today for the first time in 70 years, his

photographs will be seeing the light of day here at Glasgow 's iconic

city Chambers. This newsreel footage from the 15th of August 1947 shows

huge crowds in Delhi watching the Indian flag being raised near the

India gate Memorial. But capturing a very different view was 21-year-old

Neville who was there when Lord Mountbatten ended the British Raj.

Neville e-mails the One Show and today I'm meeting him up close. This

was Mountbatten and his escort, they were heading to a field in which

there were drawn up lines of Indian Navy Army and air force, and

Mountbatten was to carry out a guard of honour inspection. Before he got

there the crowd was living through the ranks so he never dismounted

from his courage, and the inspection never took place. This is an amazing

snapshot in history, what were you doing in India? The RAF had trained

me to be a mechanic. I was asked if I would be involved with a fly-past

for the celebration. My job was to make sure all of the necessary

equipment was at the top of the India Gate memorial to communicate

with the aircraft. Were you aware of the significance? The full

significance didn't fully latch on until afterwards. Indian

independence was the result of a powerful movement led by Mahatma

Gandhi to end British rule. When it finally came in 1947 and the country

was partitioned into two self-governing states. Hindu

majority India, and Muslim majority west and east Pakistan, which later

became Bangladesh. The result was the biggest ever mass migration in

history with 10 million people forced to leave their homeland based

on their religion. These men share different perspectives of what the

new borders meant. We were on the eastern India, part of Bengal.

Everyone was elated because they took part in the independence

movement, you see. You were in Punjab which became Pakistan and

your family stayed because you were Muslim? Yes, I remember on the night

at one minute past 12, the radio fellow announced, this is radio

Pakistan. The first time! Your mum and dad were in Delhi. My dad worked

for the Railway union and being a Communist this was total anathema to

him that people were split among religious lines. Neville's

photographs are of historic document. Tonight a selection of his

favourites are going on public display, including the moment the

top of India Gate when Neville and his colleagues were waiting for the

Independence Day celebrations to begin. I think it's marvellous.

Joining our guests to experience independents first-hand are those

who have heard the stories, including Neville's family. I'm

fascinated that looking at the photographs that some of my

relatives could have been there. That's right. It has been something

my dad has talked about frequently. It's not until later in life that he

realised what a big day it was for many people. Today talking to people

from India who were present, these are documents which should be

preserved. Thanks to Neville Ramsey

for getting in touch. If you've captured

history like Neville and have a story to tell, get

in touch with us and you never know, Anita joins us now to tell

us her own families story which has been made into two fascinating

documentaries on BBC One, The last episode went out last

Wednesday. It was brilliantly received, it is a truly amazing

documentary. As well as your story, you tell the story of three other

people and they make up the first episode. Tell us a bit about those

families. It is such a huge and horrific moment in history that no

one really knows about so it's important we are talking about it

now, the 70th anniversary, and we thought how do we tell this for a

big BBC One audience. There were four key players, Muslims, Sikhs

come him does and British colonial. Quite simply we have got someone

representing all four of those including my own story, the Sikh

story, to retrace what happened in their lives. You say in that first

episode that a lot of it was news to you and you discovered it through

Who Do You Think You Are. Where do you pick up from what you learnt?

You are right, I got an overwhelming reaction from across the broad,

people in Britain saying we had no idea, how is it we don't know about

this period of history? Specifically and most tragically British Asian

kids saying vaguely heard granny saying something but we don't know

so it's important now that the World War II generation who have never

spoken about this are finally hopefully be able to talk about it.

While the sad legacies of partition as someone of Indian heritage and

who works in television, it is difficult for me to get a visa to

work in Pakistan and vice versa, so I didn't get to go to Pakistan to

see where my grandfather's first family lived. That was unfinished

business service Wednesday you will see me and my mother become the

first members of our family ever to set foot in Lahore in Pakistan. It

was an amazing experience, particularly to have my mother there

as well. We are driving through the villages of Punjab in Pakistan to

see where my grandfather lived. That is not my grandfather, that is a

gentleman who lived through what happened in 1947 and he talks about

how Lahore burned. This was the capital city of this great state

Punjab, where 50% of Muslims, 50% were Hindus and Sikhs and at the

point of partition it was on fire. Neighbours were killing neighbours,

friends had turned on friends. It was horrific, the worst violence and

tragedy you can imagine so it's been a very emotional and moving

experience. And it's only 70 years, not that long ago, and so tough for

your mum because it was your dad you were talking about. You left her at

one point because you felt it too much for her to do the whole thing

with you, so what did you discover after you left your mum and went on

to do the rest of the story? This film covers so many different

stories, there's a lot of hard in this programme. There is hope but my

story is tragic. My grandfather lost his entire family, his father, first

wife and children didn't make it out alive. I wanted to know what

happened as far as I can know it, how did they die? And I discover

what happened and I go to the place where they were killed. I don't

think my mum could have coped with it. This was her father's family.

You will see this on Wednesday, it is an incredibly moving and

emotional, powerful experience for me to discover what happened in

detail. Nadiya, you were talking about your grandmother in

Bangladesh. How much do you know about what went on and how much is a

family do you talk about it? As British Asians, like you say it is

something you know of, you hear about it through family members and

my grandma has strong memories. My mum talks about the aftermath of

what happened and she remembers stories of hiding in bushes in the

swamps with her eight-month-old brother. She remembers those stories

but I don't know how much of that is her memory or what her mother has

told her. My only surviving grandmother now tells us the

stories. It is not recorded in history like most other... It's like

there was a collective silence because it was such a huge trauma

that took place, it's like nobody has been able to talk about it. The

important thing for me is that this is crucially British history,

because we are here and it is part of our history. Also it was the

point when Britain left India that this happened. It is very well

documented through the two programmes. You can see this at

Wednesday at nine o'clock on BBC One. Thank you.

Now it's over to Nadiya's new friend Christine Walkden, who's

finding out about a service that gives green-fingered

Just how far are you prepared to go to make sure your tomatoes are

healthy while you are on holiday? Would you be prepared for example to

hire a tomato sitter, to make sure your crops are blooming when you

come back? That is now an option. I need to be honest, I'm suspicious of

tomato sitting. I get leaving your kids or pets with sitters but your

veggies? So I'm meeting three people involved in the tomato game. This is

the boss... Tomato sitters, are you serious? We also do people's

greenhouses, flowers, deadheading. Why do you think there is a demand

for the service? People are anxious about leaving their houses and

gardens because there is more of an interest in having pretty gardens

and growing their own vegetables. Any disasters? We had a sitter who

assiduously watered this plant for two weeks and it wasn't a real

plans, it was fake! The evidence suggests there is a market for plant

sitters with a recent poll revealing 45% of gardeners would be willing to

pay for the service. At nearly 50 quid a day for your house-sitter to

attend your veggies, is it really worth it? Time to meet the customer.

It is expensive but the house is secure, it is looked after and the

garden is beautifully kept. Don't you get nervous? No, we have no

neighbours so it is important to have someone to care for everything

while we are way and they keep in touch by text or e-mail to let me

know everything is OK. So you have a holiday and they have a holiday?

Yes, they have a holiday too. But what if you come home to find the

veggie sitter has massacred your tomatoes? OK, it's time I met the

sitter. How long have you been doing this job? About five years. Do you

enjoy it? I do indeed. What are the big challenges? In April we had a

cold snap and we were looking after tomato plants in the greenhouse,

about four inches high. I nearly took them to bed with me I was so

worried about it. So you take the job very seriously? Of course. How

far would you to go to satisfy an owner? If they requested you to sing

to the plants, would you do it? Yes. Can you sing? No! My opinion has

ripened. The Big Family Cooking Showdown

starts tomorrow night Tomorrow, actor and director

Stanley Tucci is here.