15/08/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.

Let's paint a picture of our guest tonight.

He's an Oscar nominated, Emmy-award winning actor who's

starred in The Devil Wears Prada, The Lovely Bones

And in his latest film he's recreated the true story of renowned

artist Giacometti painstakingly painting his final portrait...

Actually, Dave, that's not too bad for a first go!

Welcome, Stanley. And good job, Dave. Sit down.

Welcome, Stanley - have you ever actually sat

Yes, a long time ago. My dad was an artist and I sat with the friend of

his when I was seven. Did you sit still for all that I'm? As far as I

know, but he was a fast painter! We will talk about your latest project,

obviously a passion of yours if you dad was an artist.

Your new film Final Portrait which looks

at the relationship between a portrait artist

Which got us thinking, we'd like to see

If someone in your family - maybe your children -

have drawn portraits of you and your loved ones,

Maybe they're stuck on your fridge, maybe they're in their schoolbooks,

take a photo of them and send them to the usual address and we'll show

Over the weekend Barack Obama said that, "People must learn to hate,

and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love."

That was of course in response to the awful events which unfolded

at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville,

Well, here are two people in the UK who are living proof that such

There is always an anti-British anti-forces sentiment from the

Muslims. Sharia law cutting people's Hans off, abominable. I joined them

and they gave me a chance to make a difference. The EDL. Father of six

from Suffolk was recruited by the far right group that includes

defence league back in 2009. I shared a video on Facebook... The

video prompted Ivan to post an angry message online and within minutes

the EDL contacted him and asked him to join. What was the feeling like

at your first EDL meeting? It was amazing, really, I had found a place

I belong. It also gave him the opportunity to confront Muslims who

he saw as the enemy, people like this man. I was seen as the pioneer

of recruiting people to fight for Islamic State in the UK. Manwar

attended training camps and even fought in the front line. I thought

myself and I wanted others to die fighting for the cause of God. When

Manwar was rumoured to be setting up a new mosque in Ipswich, Ivan

decided to challenge him face-to-face. Things can't go on as

they are. Britain is becoming more and more divided. I'm not going to

stand for this any more. But when Ivan finally met Manwar their two

worlds collided in an unexpected way. There is only one way to deal

with our Muslim brothers. Hello, you made it. Great. And that is with

respect. It came to meet them both, firstly to find out how they became

best friends, and how their friendship is helping in the fight

against extremism. This is the reason I met Manwar, this church, it

was to become a mask... It turned out he wasn't setting up a mosque

but a community centre for everyone. He turned his back on his extremist

views in 2000 and was now determined to engage with the far right. -- in

2000 and he was now determined. I wanted to understand that, and a lot

is through ignorance, not understanding and mixing with other

people, so I wanted to mix with so-called problematic people like

the EDL. I have met Manwar and other Muslims who challenged my views, and

I was able to challenge my misguided hate. Ivan was inspired by Manwar

and soon left the EDL and now the two men are working with others to

help them change their behaviour as well, through the Government

strategy Prevent. Introduced in 2003, Prevent has two main aims. To

get the public to report any extremist behaviour, and to educate

people about the dangers of radicalisation. Today, Manwar and

Ivan are talking to a group of young people in Watford. Yes, there is a

problem. There are people out there who feed on your prejudices and a

lack of knowledge. Now I am working for the police and the provision to

stop people being terrorists. If you don't talk to anybody there will

always be a problem. But can this really work and has it made a

difference? Since 2012 the strategy has intervened in 1000 cases

involving people at high risk of radicalisation. During the period of

the Manchester, London Bridge and Finsbury Park attacks, the number of

tip-offs made by the public has doubled. However in a society

already full of mistrust, encouraging people to report on each

other has been branded toxic by some opponents. Will people feel like

they are just being spied on? How can you avoid that? It is all about

trying to protect people from being exploited, because they are

vulnerable. Being a recruiter myself, I know very well how these

things work in terms of getting people radicalised. Had Manwar not

stepped in, Ivan may never have seen the opposite view. That is why they

believe this kind of early intervention and education can make

a difference. Five years ago I would never have thought that, do you know

what I mean? It has been amazing. And really it has just started.

On that note, let's hope that's the start of us hearing many

It is very hopeful, that film. Stanley, when you see the country

you grew up on the news, what do you think when you see those images? I

am very saddened, sad and there is an administration that is not

stepping up to the plate immediately. And saying, what is

wrong with this? And also in some ways, well, and lots of ways,

allowing it to happen, and in some ways encouraging it to happen. It is

unfortunate. That conversation we saw there is the key. Communication,

isn't it? Stanley, let's talk about your new

film which you wrote and directed - it's the story of the final portrait

of Swiss-Italian painter Giacometti. It's based on the memoirs

of his final subject, You've taken a snapshot of a time

in Giacometti's life, You are a big fan of him as an

artist. So what was the idea, why choose that format? The film is

based on a book by Lord Brittan in 1964 which was just a couple of

years before Giacometti died. -- a book by Lord written in 1964. I

called it Final Portrait to make it more dramatic, the title. But the

idea is he documents 18 days of sitting for Giacometti and their

conversations. To me it is the greatest book ever written about the

creative process. I have carried it around with me since I was in my

early 20s and finally got up... Really? Right? 67 years ago.

LAUGHTER He wasn't sure for a minute. I was

just thinking, carrying it around for that amount of time, wide and is

only come to fruition now? It took something to get the rights of it

from Lord, then it took a couple of years to write it, then a decade to

get the money for it. So you have gotten to know Lord. How did all

that but? Is saved all the correspondence, the old airmail

letters, those crispy pieces of paper -- how did it all come about?

He was a bit of a curmudgeon but after a while I got him to give me

the rights. You were pen pals and eventually he gave? Yes, then we

would have dinner together. Is he still around? He died in 2009, so it

has been a long time. We will have a little look at the film now.

Let's take a look at the moment James Lord sits for Giacometti

You have the head of the brute. Gee, thanks. You look like a real thug.

Thank you. If I was to paint you as I see you now and a policeman was to

see this painting, they would be crawling jail like that. Perhaps we

shouldn't continue. No, it is all right. As long as I can paint you as

I see you. Are you sure? Of course. It is impossible.

APPLAUSE There we are. Geoffrey Rush is such

a fantastic actor and the resemblance between him and

Giacometti is uncanny. That must have been part of the reason he was

cast in the role. Without question, without question. And then Geoffrey

is just a great actor. He's brilliant! This is the first film,

or the first time you have directed a film you're not actually in? Why

did you not put yourself in this? Is it a taste of things to come for

you? I hope so. I felt the film would suffer in some way. I really

wanted to focus on the film as a whole and really look at the picture

as a whole and not have to worry about getting back into Maycock, is

my beard or moustache following off, that of thing -- back into make-up.

Was it a relief, just doing one job as opposed to all of them? Yes, and

you get to pick up a little later. It was great. It is based in Paris

but it was filmed in London, not Paris, and that was handy for you?

LAUGHTER Yes, we filmed here not to make it

convenient for me, but because we couldn't really afford to film in

Paris. So we had a week and a half of locations. Whereabouts were you?

All over this is the Royal Navy Academy College in Greenwich. We

shot in Bermondsey, north London, all over the place. You would never

know. No, and a lot of it is CGI and it is actually cheaper for a small

film these days to do some CGI than actually go to the place. Stanley,

you have carried this around for so long and now is out there. How much

of a relief, how pleased you? It is very much a relief, and sometimes I

am pleased with it. LAUGHTER

Well, everybody can decide because it is out on Friday in cinemas. As a

Hollywood actor and director, we would be very interested to know

what you think about this next film. It has been here all day long and

now came for you to cross your legs for the next four minutes and do

your best to stay with us. Here we go. I knew I should have crossed my

legs. I have missed the ending now. What happens? Does the hero succeed?

Does the girl get the boy? Bursting for at pee in the middle of a

gripping movie can really ruin your entertainment, and when things start

to get uncomfortable decision has to be made, do you go for a comfort

break and risk missing that all-important plotline, or do you

just hang on? Well, luckily, there is a new app to help relieve you of

that, and it is called run-pee, and when you want to go you just pop it

in your pocket, so when it vibrates during the movie you can safely go

for a break without messing an essential part of the film. What

happens if you get a quarter halfway through and you need to go to the

toilet? What is your strategy? We wait. We don't want to miss

anything. I hold it. I wait until there is a part that doesn't seem to

dramatic and then I go to the toilet and comeback. The app is part of

many such apps that could help cinemagoers have stress-free

experience. I would like to find out more about your app? It came when I

was watching Peter Jackson's remake of King Kong and I really wished I

had it back then, more than three hours long. How does the app know

the best time to run out for pee? We have a time and we try to find the

best pee times we can for each movie. Let the user know if this is

a good pee time, which pee time is the best in the movie, in case they

have a chance to decide. Often times your bladder chooses which pee time

you use. Thing to put it to test... This will allow you to go at the

opportune moment and not lose any sleep about missing the rest of the

film. Sound good? Sounds good. It works a bit like a film review.

There are cue-mac pee times in Atomic Blonde, but it advises

against going in the second break because there are so many

characters. I wouldn't have left, it was that good. Suit you had no need

to use the app? Let's take Dunkirk. One hour and 48 minutes long. It

says here it is one long battle scene with only a brief moment of

dialogue. The two pee times during four minutes of frantic fighting

with no dialogue. I came to my weeing, which I don't think I have

ever done! Vibrated and I thought, good, I can go to the toilet now.

I'm allowed! All in all it seems like a pretty good app, you can go

to the toilet and not miss any key content, it is not causing a

distraction in your pocket, and it is freezer you don't even have to

spend a penny. And dangerous territory, ladies and gentlemen!

Stanley and I are not up for this. It is a terrible idea. Nothing could

be worse for cinema. Nothing. Just hold it excite go before the film.

It is part of the routine, isn't it? Have a very small drink, nu go.

LAUGHTER -- in you go. Let's go back to safer

territory. Stanley, you are obviously into art, because of the

film, but not all art is as good as a Giacometti masterpiece. I don't

know if you have seen this on the news recently, this courtroom sketch

of Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift? Attracting a lot of attention over

the last few days, saying it looks nothing like. But it was under...

Anyway. Under duress? LAUGHTER

There are lots of examples where the picture does not look like the

person, so we have some portraits that fans have drawn of different

celebrities. We wondered if you could guess who

they are. Here is the first. That is Meryl Streep. But she needs to go to

a dentist. It is Meryl! It is not horrendous. Not the most flattering.

This is more difficult. That looks like Daniel Craig in drag. This

person is 27 years old. The Hunger Games. Is that Jennifer? It's

supposed to be. It is Jennifer Lawrence. We are going to be looking

at some of your portraits later. Are you an artist yourself? I sketch and

stuff. And do you have your own work up at home? Some of it. You have

gone a bit shy. It is that thing of actually showing people and saying,

that's mine. It is scary sometimes. Before the summer break, we revealed

that according to statistics provided to us by Deloitte, 15.5

million of us think that we use mobile phones too much. So using

your suggestions on how to achieve a better phone-life balance, we have

put together The One Show phone plan, and we asked the family from

Bolton to put it to the test. Here is how they got on. Like many

families up and down the country, the Farnworth family from Bolton in

Lancashire were worried that their phone use was getting out of hand. I

just don't know where it's going. And when we asked them to monitor

their mobile use over one weekend, the results were shocking. You spent

32 hours on your phone. So to help us all achieve a better phone-life

balance, we asked you viewers to come up with suggestions on what to

do. The first person to use their phone does family chores for a week.

The Farnworths agreed to be our guinea pigs and test out The One

Show plan for a week, but not everyone in the family was looking

forward to giving it a go. And like last time, we gave them a video

camera so they could capture their experiences. It is the Farnworth

family's turned to see if we can reduce our mobile phone usage by

sticking to Alex Riley and the BBC's One Show viewerss' phone plan.

Mealtimes used to be like this. So viewers suggested banning the phone

from the dinner table. Guys, lunchtime. Phone, please. Thank you.

I would be the easiest rule on the phone plan to stick to is not having

your phone at mealtimes. It's time to catch up with what everybody has

been doing in the day. What are you doing? Reading the news. The

Farnworth family is notorious for their nocturnal smartphone

activities. To stop this, one suggestion was to have a central

charging point, and to not take your phones to bed. The charter point has

been a difficult one. Not taking them to bed, they have improved, but

still a way to go. Jacob Farnworth is on his phone. When did this phone

appear at the side of your bed? I don't know. Jacob's biggest vice was

ignoring the world around him, including some important traffic

laws. Jacob! But this seems to be one phone plan suggestion he has

stuck by. He has his hands in his pockets, no sign of a phone. Have

you got your phone? No. Fantastic! I have actually improved in not

looking at it while walking. Grace is a social media addict, spending

up to six hours a day on Snapchat alone. You feel like you are doing

more on your phone than in reality. How did she get on when forced into

some real-life FaceTime? Hello? I was wondering if you would like to

meet up for a drink at about 11? All right, bye. How is the phone plan

going? It's going all right, but parts are difficult. We have two

lead our phones at night at the central charging point. It was nice

to catch up with people in person, even though we generally use

messaging most of the time. The other one I hate this Sunday, when

I'm not allowed my phone at all. Which brings us to their final

challenge, spending a whole day without using their phones. It is

phone free Sunday. I have just taken the children's phone from their

bedrooms. And as I picked one up, I noticed that somebody hasn't turned

off their notifications, Jacob Farnworth. The hardest thing is

Switch Off Sunday. It is the willpower not to use your phone,

because it's still there. Do we need to lock it away? Yeah. But this

time, after some arm-twisting, all the family rose to the occasion.

It's brilliant when we get rid of them. We have had much better

quality family time. Hopefully, we can take some of the points and

embed them in. It will be better in the future. Well, the Farnworth

family join us now in the studio, along with Alex, who has the

all-important results. Let's give them applause for doing it. Good

work, team. The applause could be premature. But for the effort, yes.

The effort varied between family members. Grace and Jacob first.

Grace went from five hours six minutes a day to around four hours

and 17 minutes a day. That is not much. Where did it go wrong? I don't

know. What about since we have finished the measuring? We went

away, and that was when it really improved. Because you couldn't get

the internet. You were on a ship, weren't you? Let's move on to Jacob.

Jacob went from three hours 54 minutes a day to around three hours

19 minutes a day. That is just a bad day, not an improvement. Shouldn't

you have tried harder? Probably come but... Luckily for the Farnworths,

the parents better. Mum and dad, Lindsay went from using the phone

from 11 hours a week to six hours 22 minutes a week. Well done. Have you

changed your life? Definitely. More time for shopping and ladies who

lunch and watching telly. Very nice. John, the winner, went from 18 hours

40 minutes a week to eight hours 43 minutes a week, a drop of ten hours.

What was the secret? I followed the One Show phone plan, particularly

the notifications and the central charging point. So you didn't have

it in the bedroom. And you didn't get distracted and carry on looking

at things. So in general, what worked and what are you going to

stick with? I think unplugging the wi-fi in the evening. What time do

you unplug that? 11 o'clock in the holiday. We need that when we go

back to school. We will need to offer that when they go back to

school. Having the central charge point has been good. Not having

phones at mealtimes, particularly when you go out dining. You see

people out on their phones and it's terrible. And lots more phone free

date nights. Many elements of the plan are about trying to engage with

the people in front of you. You said that you enjoyed mealtimes, because

you all put the phones in a central place and you were able to talk and

interact. It's bizarre that we have come to this, though, where you need

to put the mobiles down in order to interact. Where do you stand,

Stanley? You have come to this fresh tonight. Are you on board with the

fact that people use their mobiles too much? Without a doubt. I would

love to go back to the time when we didn't have them. Except for when

you get lost. We don't allow them at the table in our house. I love your

very expensive solution you were telling us about. Yes, my kids went

to Namibia on a charity thing and they didn't have their phones and

access to stuff for a month. That's the way to do it. Send your children

to Namibia. And if you can't find the money to send your children to

Namibia, keep mealtimes mobile free. Don't take phones to bed. That is

such a big thing. I don't do that. But your husband takes it to the

smallest room in the house and watches telly on that. We are still

in debate about that. And meet people instead of messaging. Have an

interaction in the real world instead of the virtual world. Across

the whole week, 32 hours were on the phone before they did the plan. Now,

it's been reduced to just under nine hours. Pretty impressive. And that

is down to mobile free Sunday, of course. Even so, it is a significant

improvement. Jacob and Grace, you get to do The One Show phone plan

for another week! Not really. Thanks for being our guinea pigs. It's been

lovely to meet you. Now, back in May, we revealed the school who won

a garden direct from the Chelsea Flower Show. Now it's time to see

whether it has successfully gone from grey to green.

Earlier this year, The One Show asked you to nominate community

spaces around the UK that could use greening up. With this garden from

the royal horticultural Society's Chelsea Flower Show. This is the

place it is about to transform, a primary school in Swansea. Since the

school was built two years ago, staff and pupils have been desperate

to transform this empty courtyard, almost entirely grey and with clear

potential to benefit hundreds, the school was selected from a short

list of suggestions in May by RHS chief horticulturalist Guy and

garden designer Nigel Danek. Today, head teacher Alison Bastin is

overseeing the final preparations for planting. We moved into this

building two years ago with the hope that we would have lots of green

spaces, but we were just left with a great piece of tarmac. So the hope

was always for some kind of green space. The whole school revolves

around this courtyard. Everybody can see it, so we were hoping to create

a calm area where children can learn about plants and have a place to sit

and reflect and read. This has been our vision and we can't believe the

dream has become a reality. With the plans coming off the trucks and

pupils and staff getting to work, I'm catching up with a guy, who has

been tweaking the design of the garden to fit the school's

courtyard. All the elements, we have carried over, except the water

features. It is probably a question of safety for children. There is

that. The courtyard also has tarmac underneath and we didn't want to dig

into the tarmac in case we damaged essential services like the

electricity and gas. So everything has to go on top. Show me the plan

for the courtyard and tell me how you are overcoming the tarmac

challenge. The first thing we did was to build raised beds. We have

mass edges for children to sit on. One of the innovations at the

Chelsea garden was an edible table, so we brought that along, but also

these insect hotels. Well going to replicate those. Do you feel you

have captured the spirit of this Chelsea garden and made it work here

at Burlais primary school? Yes, I do. The space will only fit a

quarter of the plans and there are loads left over for the rest of the

school grounds, but for now, it's time to get plenty that courtyard,

with a few pointers from Guy. What do you think of that? Make it a bit

higher. Time to get stuck in. Max, tell me what you and your brother

are doing. We are digging a hole to put the plant in. Do you do any

gardening at home? I water the flowers. What will it feel like when

you look out of the window and see? When I am sad, I will look out of

the window and feel happy. Is by Spieth, the garden is taking root in

Swansea. The garden is looking fantastic. Give me a big cheer if

you are proud of your achievements. Yes! Our wonderful school has a

beautiful garden and I think the children will thrive. How do you

think this garden will make everyone at the school field? Happy.

Delighted. Words can't describe it. It's a real transformation. And we

met some of the pupils at the Chelsea Flower Show, so hello to you

all if you are watching. There will be back at school seemed to enjoy

the garden. We ask you for your portraits earlier and we have had

loads. Let's start with one of yours, Stanley. This is my

favourite. These are family portraits. It is by a

three-year-old. They never draw a body, they just draw legs and a

head. These are the arms, but they look like dumbbells. And whose work

is that? This is mine. No. It is a portrait of Katie and her husband,

drawn by their son Charlie. Digby 87 drew this picture of his damn

parents, Mimi and pop are, in front of their favourite window. Jenny

sent this one in. It is her five-year-old granddaughter who did

it. She has given her supermodel legs. This one here is Ali's nephew

Leo who drew this of his dad, who loves coffee. So the coffee cup is

as big as the person! On that note, you can put the kettle on because

that's all we've got time for. Stanley's film is out on Friday.

Tomorrow, Gabby Logan and I will be joined by Ronnie Wood. See you then.

Bye-bye.