15/02/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker

Tonight we're renaming the studio - The Hotel One Show.

We're all-inclusive and we've got a full schedule of activities.

Andy Kershaw is in the Hotel Lounge to tell us about the time

Jimi Hendrix rocked a sleepy spa town in Yorkshire.

Lucy Siegel is in the dining room to tell us why poultry farmers have

And providing the entertainment in the ballroom tonight is an award

winning songwriter and producer who has worked with everyone

Naughty Boy is here and he'll be performing his latest single,

featuring Kyla, before we have to hand in our keys and check out.

In fact, the only thing we're missing are some hotel

guests but they should be arriving any minute.

They're the latest stars to appear in the Real Marigold Hotel,

which was last year's unexpected hit series -

about eight famous faces experiencing retirement in India.

Please welcome Lionel Blair, Paul Nicholas, Dennis Taylor

Have a seat! Lovely to see you all. Thank you to our dancers as well.

When we arrived at our hotel, that was in our hotel grounds to greet

us. It gets you in the mood! This was a little more ethnic. This was

popping! What is usually the first thing you do when you check into our

hotel, we know that Sheila looks for a room with a big around our? And

swaps of someone with an even bigger one if you're not happy! We were

worried about where... Way we were going to go, so we decided to select

keys. Out of a big hat! And I got the short key. It was his idea! I

got into my room and there were no curtains on the ground levels are

people just walk by and there was me coming... You loved it! He could

have shared my room. I got the biggest room in the hotel. I left my

key to the end. And I couldn't believe it, I was overlooking the

swimming pool, two double beds, a bathroom, could have got everybody

in it! My room was better! I had a rubber tyre and an old bath. We'll

find out a lot more. We're so pleased you are all here and are

looking forward to your company. Just a couple of weeks ago we took

chef Michel Roux junior to task about how he was paying some

of his workers less than the minimum wage -

which he apologised for and put down But he's not the only high profile

culprit shortchanging his staff - The national minimum wage,

introduced 20 years ago and there to ensure the Ukip is lowest paid

workers earn enough to live on. Today if you are over 25 the

national minimum wage is ?7 20 per hour. All employers must pay their

staff that by law. But the programmer can reveal exclusively to

that not all companies are doing that and one of the biggest

offenders is Debenhams. A recent government in the station found that

Debenhams on the paid nearly 12,000 members of staff by a total of

?134,000 between 2012 and 2015. It's completely unacceptable for a high

street retailer with over 100 years history, with personnel and HR

departments and Chief Executive is, getting it wrong on the national

minimum wage. Debenhams is one of more than 350 companies are

hairdressers to social care firms, were named and shamed. They are

owning the work is a total of almost ?1 million. Margot James is

Undersecretary at Department of business, energy and strategy who

published the report. There will be a lot of attention on Debenhams,

household name, this should not have happened but the important thing is

there is never an excuse not to pay the minimum wage and doesn't matter

how big or small your company is, you need to abide by the law. But

how have suddenly companies been getting away with it without a

majority of employees noticing? Perhaps it's because the minimum

wage you can expect to receive has changed quite a bit in the last

couple of decades. If you're 25 and above, it is gone from ?3 60 to the

current ?7 20 and in April it goes up to ?7 50. So how many people

actually know what over 25 's are entitled to? Do you know that for a

fact? An informed guess. You're not far off. ?7 20, what do

you think it should be? At least ?10! With a few notable exceptions,

the majority of people don't know what the national minimum wage for

over 25 uses, even though what they or their loved ones take home every

month could depend on it. Those out-of-pocket Debenhams workers have

been reimbursed and the retailer has been hit with a Revenue and Customs

fine, so what went wrong? I have come to Debenhams HQ in central

London to meet company chairman Sir Ian Cheshire. I think people would

be surprised that one of the company's leading retailers is

underpaying so many of its staff, failing to meet basic legal

requirement, it's like sticking a discount sticker on your hardest

workers. We were underpaying on an hourly rate, for some of our staff,

not all of them, we have fixed that error since it came out of the audit

said Melbourne today is out-of-pocket and we have fixed the

systems that led to that problem. Was the Chief Executive affected,

the chairman, were you affected by it? I wasn't at the company nor was

the executive, only the people who were on an hourly calculation from

?1, underpaid to a maximum of 150, I don't want to distract from the fact

we made a mistake. You weren't aware until HMRC put it to your attention,

how many people are working payroll at Debenhams? You have broken the

law. It's a shame the technical error happened but it wasn't

intentional. How does it make you feel knowing that this technical

error only affect those who are paid the very least? You never want to

make an error that affect any of your staff, with a high paid or

low-paid, we don't want to be in that position again because we value

our teams. So the chairman of Debenhams put it down to a technical

error but that doesn't mean they didn't break the law on minimum wage

and short-change 12,000 of their employees. It does make you think

maybe it can happen at Debenhams, where else has been going on?

We're joined by Matt Allwright who is here with a list

of businesses who have under paid their staff.

Was published at 7pm tonight, Debenhams at the top, because of the

amounts of money involved. But by no means the only big-name that is out

there. Peacocks, KFC, Supper, 15,000 workers affected in total, underpaid

by nearly ?1 million. -- Subway. Seven of the Subway branches where

people were found to be underpaid, they say the stories independently

owned and operated by franchisees who set wages, they take it

seriously and have spoken to all of them and reimbursed employees and

put the matter right. Peacocks say they don't underpay their staff is

the people who are being paid monthly, sometimes less, over year

balances out, and KFC say it is an administrative error, they are sorry

but pleased to say it has been resolved and won't happen again.

They aren't the only ones. It's a long list. Businesses of all sizes,

put names and some smaller businesses. Some sectors worse than

others? Hospitality is come top of the list, pubs and clubs, drinking,

a lot of casual workers, almost a quarter of ?1 million underpaid to

five to three workers in that sector. How has this information

come to light? From complaint made to ACAS, a lot of body who deal with

problems and disputes in the workplace. A Casio about them first

then pass them on to HMRC tax revenue, to investigate and take

action when they had investigated. One of these cases that were shut,

done and dusted, they have 1500 cases still open that they are

investigating the clearly is a lot more to come. What are the reasons

the companies are giving for not paying out the minimum wage? There

is a classic one I've reported on which is tips. Tips making up

minimum wage. Question once and other places thinking it's

acceptable to do that. That's rubbish you don't tip somebody at

KFC or at Subway! Get a grip! You are not part of the investigation! I

could be! You would be so good on Sheila! -- undercover. This is a

crack team! Next time will do the programme could be you can come on.

There are some bizarre excuses as well, people are saying, we wouldn't

pay this post minimum wage because they weren't very good at the job.

All they only make the tea and sweep up. It doesn't make any difference,

it's the law. It is minimum wage, any job you are doing, if you are

doing it, ?7 20, right now. For any worker feels they might not be

getting what they should be, what steps should they take and how

should they contact? In the first instance, get your payslips together

over as longer period as can, then the government, on its website has a

thing called check your pay, to you can put in the payslip, details

into. It will work out whether you are being paid by the hour, the

national minimum wage for over 25 's,... Is that going up? You are

better than me! April the 1st, as she listens, up to ?7 50. So again,

when the moment comes, check the payslip afterwards as well. Check it

now! Call Sheila! Or you can check the website. Speak to your

colleagues, also you can go to ACAS and they will take it further. While

Schiller will send you a personal link!

Whilst our Marigold Hotel guests have been exploring more exotic

retirement options - we've packed Andy Kershaw off

Not as a resident though - it's all to find out about the time

it was rocked to its foundations by a legendary guitarist.

50 years ago, one of the most implausible gigs in rock 'n' roll

history took place here in the gym New York to Dale spa town of

Bulkeley. -- three. And this is where it happened. On Sunday March

12th 1967, it was the Troutbeck hotel, the music club. These days,

it's a residential care home. Hardly likely location for a man who took

electric guitar playing beyond the boundaries of anyone's imagination.

It may be a haven of serenity but when Hendrix played Troutbeck, it

ended in chaos and farce. People started to riot, take pictures off

the wall. I saw a chair fly through the air and land on the stage. Very

frightening for a 16-year-old! We have gathered together a handful of

concertgoers from that infamous night and brought them back to share

their experiences. Has it changed much? Yes, it was 50 years ago! Show

was where it all happened. This was where we paid ten shillings. It was

quite a lot of money for a gig then. Two paper round!

What was the atmosphere like when you got in here? It was so crowded.

This was the entrance. This is where the ballroom was. All that's left is

this corridor. When he came on the stage, it was deafening. I was right

at the front. I was able to touch him practically. The unknown Jimi

Hendrix had been spotted by the promoter in a London nightclub. I

thought, I've never seen anything like him. He was dressed like

everybody knows Jimi Hendrix used to dress like. I thought, I've got to

book this guy. He could have been an opera singer for all I knew. Stuart

got lucky, Jimi Hendrix hit the top ten with his first single and

excited music lovers streamed into the small venue. Never seen so many

teenagers in one place before, not in Ilkley. Very loud, very noisy.

Crammed in like sardines, you couldn't move. A massive Afro hair

cut. You weren't used to seeing anyone like that. When the first

chord struck up, the noise bounced around the room. It was like

something you'd be looking for all your life. It got hold of you. But

the joy was short lived. Only a few bars into the second song and the

gig was brought to age matter called. The police came through the

crowd, stopped this gig. They said you are all going to have to go

home. When I looked through the ballroom, it was shoulder to

shoulder. I had to push through to the edge of the stage. There was

over 900 and there should have been only 250 maximum. I spoke to the

chap playing the guitar. He didn't stop playing. The policeman actually

turned the power sockets. When he turned round, Jimi put it back on

stand-by. What was his reaction to being stopped on stage? He couldn't

believe it. He just obey. He was very mild mannered and nice guy. You

could tell it was going to start kicking off. A lot of people were

angry and wanted their money back. They were throwing chairs and

tables. The police were outnumbered. We were docking under the things

coming overhead. Somebody put his knee through a picture on the wall.

I was glad to be out of there. I was 15, it was quite intimidating. We

grabbed the money tin and lead it. I ran away. You mention to people that

Jimi Hendrix played at the Troutbeck and it's yeah, right! My son said,

did you really do that? My children think I'm a little raver, I think.

Judging by those fans it put a smile on their face.

And Andy has managed to track down the original contract

How much do you think Jimi Hendrix got paid for that gig in 1967? 120.

130. He wasn't known. Ringo rented him a flat in Montague Street in

1967 for ?60 per month. Good knowledge! He might have wanted to

pay his rent. 15. It was quite a lot. 60 quid. He had his rent money!

What years what that? 1967. I used to play piano for screaming Lord

such and he paid as a fiver a night. Were you happy with that? As a kid

in 1960, good money. Nothing's changed! LAUGHTER

He owes you still. Your latest gig is the

Real Marigold Hotel - Let's meet the rest of the team.

Looking forward to finding out what more India has two offer. They must

have strong flies. He's very strong. You won't get three more beautifully

dressed elephants walking through. Sheila Ferguson! APPLAUSE

I wonder if they got you dancing in there. It's got to come out. Lionel,

you found it hard to settle, didn't you? When we first got there. To put

it mildly! Was it preconceived ideas? I didn't know what to expect.

It was like shantytown, I thought, when we first arrived. Until got

into the hotel. The hotel was super. I thought, I can't stay here. This

is not me. Where is The Iv? Day by day, I loved it. I absolutely loved

it. What was it that you loved so much when you eventually came

through? The way they smile at you is absolutely lovely. I don't know

about the rest of India but there was every religion, there were

Muslims, there were Sikhs, every religion. You were in coaching,

South India. Not a problem with anything. We went to a place called

due Town that was built in 1868 and had a synagogue in that was run by a

Roman Catholic. The people were so nice. People invited you to their

house for dinner. Dennis, what were you expecting? Well, I'd been there

30 years ago. We'd played snooker there. In southern India, there were

no beggars. Which was great. In Mumbai, there were a lot of beggars

in the street. Where we were, there was a lot. We did a lot of yoga in

the morning and the people kept smiling all the time. Have you done

much yoga in the past, Dennis? I'm not really a yoga person. I used to

do finger exercises. It was incredible. The jokes kept us going.

We all got on so well together. We just smiled all the way. The

wonderful thing about Dennis was, he came in and said, July these

trousers? I had them made in 24 hours. We had them made within 24

hours for next to nothing. All they did was shopping! Did you get a good

sense of what it would be like to retire in India from the trip? I'm

not into retiring, to be honest. I don't think any others are. I think,

if you can keep going, it's as good a place to retire as anywhere, the

weather is good, the people are lovely. Winners, luckily, we still

got our health. Touch wood! The idea of retiring doesn't really enter my

mind. Has it changed your perspective in any way? Not really.

In our lives, we kind of live out of suitcases. Always on the move. For

us, it's not a big deal to go to India and live with the seven other

people. You said yourself, you value your own time, you are happy being

by yourself. What was it like being with seven strangers? I thought it

was going to be easy but because I've been living alone for eight

years, 24 slash seven. I found it noisy. I found I missed the

interaction with people. These guys talked me that I need emotional as

well as intellectual and physical stimulation. Which we supplied!

LAUGHTER Have you carried on in your life

since? Absolutely. Shut up! We don't want to tell them who went to whose

room. We were fortunate. We had wonderful guides, we had cars at our

disposal. When people say, would July to retire there? Yes, if we had

a chauffeur driven car, our guides. Wonderful. I don't think so. I

remember a specific time, we ate our meals together and everybody was

telling their stories. I just shut up for a change, which was unusual.

After looking and listening to what everybody said, none of us is going

to retire. Nobody has that mentality of retiring. If I hear the word

senior citizen, I say, are you talking to me? I'm no old-age

pensioner. I just don't see it. It's because society has moved away from

that. You are full of energy. The programme is so beautifully paced

and it is a joy to sit back and watch. Everybody will be loving it.

That's the first Real Marigold Hotel.

Time to say happy birthday to one of our favourite soap stars -

Someone else who shows no sign of slowing down.

We sent our artist Adebanji to find a suitably dotty way of honouring

the launderette queen who has become a cultural icon.

TV soap history has had a fair share of feisty female characters over the

years. But there's only one queen of the launderette. Dot cotton is East

Enders launderette running chain-smoking Gran who's been

telling it like it is to the residents of Albert Square for over

three decades. Now June Brown, the actress behind one of the nation's

most loved characters is about to celebrate a very significant

birthday. Her 90th. So, how does the June Brown At 90 - A Walford

One Show pay tribute? We know nothing about dots. This artist has

stuck 6 million of them onto artworks. She specialises in huge

portraits using thousands of tiny dots, these vast pieces sell for up

to ?20,000. This picture of Formula 1 driver Sebastian Vettel took 450

hours, around nine weeks to complete. It's completely taken over

my life. Up until recently when I had twin babies, I was sticking dots

for between ten and 13 hours a day, six days a week. As an artist, I'm

drawn to the extraordinary detail. I see an abstract explosion of dots

but when I go back, that's where it comes into focus. I get definition,

I think it's amazing. For something like this, one 21 and a half weeks,

ten hours a just punching the dots. Once Nikki has gathered enough dots

to form her image, she begins the laborious task of sticking each dot

on the canvas. It seems incredibly repetitive. How do you cope? I'm

addicted to doing it. I have OCD so I find it good to channel it into

this. I ended up having to have shoulder surgery because I lean this

way. I have six pins in my shoulder. This is a labour of love for you.

But an addiction as well. Nicky's creations follow a long line of

artists that working pointillism, using small dots to create an image.

This painting by Georges Seurat looks like a Northern reseeding the

park but you can see close-up that it is thousands of tiny

brushstrokes. Your eyes we come the paint palette and it's up to you to

blunt the colours together to find the image. This twist on an hundred

and 30-year-old artistic movement has given it a new lease of life and

allowed her to create a rather unique portrait of a unique lady.

I've been working on the portrait for a few weeks and it's nearly

finished. Would you like to give me a hand? Why not? Would that be OK?

There is to dots there, one on top of the other. This is really fiddly.

How do you manage to do this without stepping back? I'm really

short-sighted which helps because I can look over my glasses and the

colours blend together. I could never have my eyes fixed because it

would hinder my artwork. I think, we are just about done here. There we

have it and what better way to celebrate one of the country's most

loved actresses. From Dot To Dot. How long did it take, bearing in

mind you have got twins? Apiece this size would normally take two weeks

but four weeks because we had babies. Are they all right now?

Still a bit snuffly! You have worked alongside in June, we thought it

would be only fitting for you to do the big reveal. She's 90, she still

knew all her words, an amazing woman, great example to everyone so

it gives me great pleasure to reveal it. You are going to be amazed.

There it is! It's beautiful. You take a step back

and it almost becomes... It's fantastic. And you did it from a

photograph? Fantastic, I'm sure she would be delighted. Has she seen it

yet? Not yet. We've been in touch with June

and she said she's extremely grateful for this and is looking

forward to receiving it I can see words, what have you been

hole punching? I tried to recycle, even though a newspaper, I use bits

of card lying around. Probably around 15,000, but an average piece

is around 100,000 dots. It absolutely incredible. Let's give

you another round of applause! And to celebrate her birthday

the BBC has made a one off special programme called "June Brown At 90 -

A Walford Legend" which goes out Now to a subject close to my heart,

the plight of poultry farms. How much freedom should we be giving our

free range chickens? Since the first confirmed case of

bird flu in December last year, farmers have faced uncertainty.

Death Row ordered them to have as their paltry indoors to prevent the

risk of disease by keeping them away from wild birds who could be

carrying avian flu. That order expires on the 28th of February in

all but high risk areas. If you think farmers would be jubilant at

the prospect of being able to release their flocks into out doors,

except many of them are not. Alistair Price is a former Packer

and wholesaler. Of his 16 farms, three are in high risk areas. Tell

me about the free range system, how does it work? We have a shed, 16,000

birds, during daylight hours, we open up the potholes which allows

free access to them to come from the shed to the range and vice versa, on

the 1st of March it is either let the birds out, with restrictions or

compulsory Housing continues to stop if it does, we don't have our free

range egg in the country. I would have thought would be happy you are

releasing the birds because you strongly about free range. I'm not

happy because it's not really going to control the disease of in the

wild birds ovulation and I'm frightened about getting back into

bomb paltry. So you are sending more risk averse than Defra and brought

the measures in? It is my birds on the line and not my business. --

also my business. This map shows restricted zones

where birds will have to be kept in. Retailers pay a premium for free

range eggs as do we put X laid by birds kept inside for longer than 12

foods can not legally be called free range and that is a massive blow to

business. David and Julie Bubba run a farm with 16,000 hens, they are

confused by the measures put into place by Defra and say they are

unachievable. I think the farmers have to stick together and somebody

has to say, we are the free range or we are not. The security measures

they are asking to be monetary are impractical. If you see areas where

fault but has been on the chicken range and we are supposed to

disinfect it. Five permits data, another area! -- five minutes later.

What else have you been asked to do? To walk the dogs around or walk

around every few minutes and scare the wild birds away. I'm getting the

sense you don't think these measures will work? It's got to be all

nothing. The farmers had many questions for Defra. Graham Cooke is

the UK deputy chief veterinary officer. I have a question from one

of the farmers, the 1st of March although he supposedly in a low risk

is in me doesn't want to let his bird that doesn't think he will be.

His primary duty is to protect his birds and if he feels that the only

way he can do it, that's his choice. But our current proposals say they

could be let out as long as they are protected by netting from wild

birds. Why is he being more cautious than you? We have taken advice from

a range of specialists in the area, they are proposals, they are not

fixed, upon which we have based high risk and low risk areas but I

emphasise that no part of the country is risk-free. You really

think 1st of March, people will be able to let their birds at? We don't

quite know, we always said we would review the situation until the 20th

of debris, it's a complex disease as you can imagine with wild birds

concerned. -- the 28th of February. Thanks, Lucy - it's not just poultry

farmers this also affects If you want more information on this

you can find details on our website. Now let's turn our attention back

to Real Marigold Hotel. I don't know if you've realised

but each one of you left something You all forgot to pack a personal

possession that tells a story We've managed to track

down your stuff but the only problem is we don't know

what belongs to who - Dave, bring in the lost

and found box, please. Here we have the lost property.

Let's see what we have got in here. We have got an order, Sheila! Paul!

They don't look exactly like mine, but... They look very nice. I did

have a small problem with underpants while I was up there. I such a small

problem that I ended up with 14 pairs of them, which was possibly

over the top. Anyway, thank you so much, I will take them home. All

will be revealed or not is the case may be tonight! Do you want me to

put them on now? We have arose in here. This indicates... This is from

my date. My first date in eight years. He walked in and I said to my

daughter, if he doesn't bring flowers, I'm not going, and he had

flowers! When will you see him again? It in the pipeline. Did he

manage to get a word in edgeways? Excuse you! Actually, no! He has got

to be a good listener. Did he speak English? He never spoke! Moving on

swiftly. We have a joke book. Dennis! I bombarded them the first

two weeks, they want to send me home, they have heard every joke

there ever was. Very silly ones, as well.

Have very good drink for snooker players, whiskey and dwindling. You

still get drug every night but in the morning your eyes are as clear

as a bell. I'm used to being at the end of the queue!

And you ended up with a very special moment. Four weeks there, I loved

being with these people but the BBC arranged to take me to a hill

station where the British Army were based and in 1875 people to the

club, and snooker room was still there, they called at the billiard

room and they had the table that Sir Neville Francis Fitzgerald

Chamberlain invented the game of snooker and broke the rules for it

and I got to play on the table. I did it with my glasses, and he's

better than I was! But to get there was very emotional. Lovely. We have

one final thing in this suitcase, a teddy bear. Lionel, this must be for

you. Forget lots of friends at stage door, and every time I was left at

present, there was... A little teddy bear. And that's over 20 years ago,

we have had that little teddy bear and whenever we go abroad, were

taken with us. When we crossed the Suez Canal, my wife put a

handkerchief around him and said I have taken him. We have still got

little head. He sleeps in our bed every night. And he came to India!

Dennis, you don't have to take your cue to leave. You have got to catch

a train! It is been wonderful seeing him. Come and see us again.

Earlier we saw how some employers were failing

to pay their staff the minimum wage - now let's restore your

Nick Hewer has met an extraordinary inventor and businessman who has

ripped up the rule book and handed his company

And, get this, he's also scrapped the retirement age.

Imagine you have been minted gadget that sells literally hundreds of

millions, 80 countries around the world. You and your family would be

set up for life. But the man who runs this business in Sheffield says

he's not really interested in making money, and when he has done, he

hopes he will have nothing left to leave his children. What sort of

business is this? What sort of man is that? This is Gripple, based in

Sheffield. It all started with the coming gadget that just joins two

bits of wire. So this started it all? This is a Gripple why a joiner,

if you push it through there, it looks, push the other wire through

there, it locks so if you try and pull it... You can't pull it apart.

You invented this! Gripple fasteners were used in vineyards, farms, the

building industry, all over the world. So far they have sold 500

million of them. That sounds of the hugely successful business but at

the peak of its success, you decided to give it all away. He thought

Gripple would run better if it was owned by the workers so he started

giving his shares back to the company. Then he insisted the

employees by them, at least ?1000 worth of shares in their first year.

You don't give it to them? You give something to somebody, don't value

it, if you buy something, devalue it. What the workers think about

having to buy shares? Phil has been an investor for over 20 years. When

I first started buying shares, obviously I invested ?2000 which

there were a lot of money, and today is a lot of money, my wife were a

bit, if these shares don't pay a mortgage of comic you're in deep

trouble! Now, I walked into my bank and paid 60% of my mortgage off, I

will be mortgage free in three years. They will only make a profit

while the share price goes up, so it's business owners, the employees

have an interest in Gripple doing well. Because you're part of the

company and you on that little bit of the company, you wanted to grow

and be better. It makes us put together to make sure the business

survives. Everyone sees the daily figures, there are notice boards

were people take ownership of problems and hardly anyone ever gets

sacked. We don't have to get rid of people because of somebody is

slacking, another person will say, on your bike!

This is where the board meets. In most companies board meetings take

place behind locked doors but here everybody can see and hear exactly

what is going on. There is no clocking in or out. There are no job

descriptions and there is no retirement age. No job descriptions,

why not? When you get a business with job descriptions, people say, I

can't do that, not my job description. We have one job

description. If you see a ball, Tkatchev. -- catch it. I like

accountants but they shouldn't be running a business. RU profit

driven? No. I've worked with a lot of business people. You're the first

to submit it to me that profit is not the most important thing. I

think if you have the people, you will make the profit. If you look

after people, then your business will look after itself. I find this

place really interesting. When the workers owned the business, it

changes its whole dynamic for the better. Isn't that wonderful? I

think it's a great business model. And it's had the -- it's a handy

gadget, I've used some of those in my time.

Now, from a savvy businessman to a one man hit machine -

a music producer who has worked with some of the biggest names

on the planet and is behind some of the most successful songs

So many catchy songs. Amazing. It's Naughty Boy. APPLAUSE

Interestingly, used to work in a hotel, didn't you? The Grove in

Hertfordshire. Quite a luxury hotel. It inspired some of the music on

your first album? Yes. On my first album. In the hotel, I was serving

breakfast to lots of people in the hotel, politicians, Madonna,

everybody was grumpy at breakfast time. It's the same for everyone,

breakfast time. It made me think about the whole concept of Fame. The

list is endless, the people you've worked with.

You've worked with some big names Beyonce, Mary J Blige,

But you've been passionate about music for a long time. The minute I

decided I wanted to do it, I remember asking the universe to hope

me. The way it helped me, I was delivering pizzas ten years ago and

then life just... You ended up on Deal Or No Deal. That was part of my

plan. I wanted to go on a game show with no questions. I thought if I'm

destined to win anything, it's a game where there is no questions but

just fade. I saw the number 11 everywhere. So I was... It's not

crazy. Everybody has got a number. From then on, when the show

ended,... I140 ?4000. APPLAUSE -- I've won ?44,000. I built a

studio in my shed. I met every Sunday. -- Emile Sande and she's

become my favourite person to week with. The shed is in my garden, it's

still got pots and pans and it still got the vibe. My mother used to love

that room and that's where I got my culinary skills. All stars like to

your studio. I moved it to Ealing. Their I've cooked for some Smith. I

made shepherds pie for Mary Kay Blige. Very impressive. I guess, it

all fits now. You had this destiny. I genuinely believe that everyone

loves music and everybody has something in them where they can

explore something to make a life out of it. That's all I've done. I've

done it with people I love working with. Good for you. I said I was

going to work with Bayonne say one day. I was putting it out there and

last year I did. -- Beyonce. You have a lucky charm. Fortune, fate,

whatever you believe in, we want people at home to get in contact and

say what has brought you fortune over the years. Perhaps it is a

lucky charm of a mascot that has got you the all-important result.

Whatever brings you that thing in your life, we want to hear about it.

E-mail us with the subject "Lucky charm".

Whist our guests have been enjoying an overseas adventure -

our action man Andy Torbet has been on an under-sea

He's been exploring the warships sunk by their own crew nearly

On the northern tip of Scotland in the Orkneys lies scupper flow --

Scapa Flow, one of the most beautiful harbours in the world. But

many years ago there was the greatest loss of shipping ever

recorded in a single day. Most of Germany's warships were brought here

for internment. While peace talks remained in place, a skeleton crew

looked after the ships. After peace talks failed, to prevent the fleet

falling into enemy hands, the Germans try to sync all 74 ships. It

was meticulously planned to the last detail. It was all done in absolute

secrecy. The first the British knew was when the German signs were

raised on the ships. That had been Strictly forbidden when they were

interned. Raising the flag was the signal to sabotage the ships. They

opened all the valves and doors to C water flooding. They successfully

scuttled three quarters of the ships. In the 1920s and 30s, many

were recovered in the largest operation in history. But still many

remain in Scapa Flow. Keirin has been diving here for ten years. He

offered to guide me round the wrecks. What we are left with is the

seven wrecks that we see marked here. I will be exploring HMS

dressed in, a light cruiser lost in 1914. Removing any artefacts is

illegal. Myself and partner are able to swim in and out of the light

cruiser giving an insight into what life must have been like on board.

We are in the office accommodation. Still intact, we come across one of

the guns lying in its original position alongside the bridge on the

port side. Over time, these wrecks became home

to an abundance of life. This is the only thing that list down here. We

think they are protected from taller fishing by the wrecks down there.

Few fishermen trawl here because they risk losing their nets on the

wrecks. We are particularly interested in the horse mussel beds

that live down here in abundance. They filter the water as they feed.

If the horse mussel beds weren't here, you wouldn't have the same

biodiversity? That's right. We get up to 300 different species in a

square metre. Within that, you can have as many as 23,000 animals. Look

at the size of this starfish. It's massive. As he runs along the sea

bed, the other smaller starfish Lambert to get out of his way. Look

at them go. They flee for their lives. Two male spider crabs are

having a disagreement over territory. And these scallops are

moving about and avoiding predators. Scapa Flow is living proof that even

if an area is completely devastated, given time and the right conditions,

a barren landscape can be transformed into an underwater

paradise. Absolutely mesmerising. Andy there, up in the Orkneys. We

are done. We have left our guests. They have disappeared. What a show

it has been. A massive thank you to all

of tonight's guests. "The Real Marigold Hotel" starts

tonight, BBC One tonight at nine. I'm back tomorrow with Angela

when we'll be joined by Mary Berry but playing us out tonight

is Naughty Boy featuring Kyla # Needed a bit of space

# I thought you would stay with me # You're happy and I hated.

# I want you so bad. # I want you back

# On my own, I miss you # I want you so bad

# I want you back, but you are gone. # Should have been me all along.

# Should have been me every time I close my eyes

# I can see what I used to be # It should have been me all along.

# You don't think of me at all # How could I let you leave me?

# It's too late to stop # I know that I spoke too soon

# I want you so bad, # I want you back.

# I want you so bad, # I want you back, but you've gone.

# It should have been me all along. # It should have been me every time

I close my eyes # I can see how I used to be

# It should have been me all along # Issue have been me all along

# I open my eyes and I see it's no dream, you're gone...

# It should have been me all along... #.

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