15/05/2017 The One Show

For the future, so the loss of the nurse bursary means that there is

fewer nurses applying to go into nursing in the future, the high cost

of medical course, university, all means that you deter people from

doing that. Hello and welcome to The One Show

with Matt Baker. And Lex Jones. We are joined by three dream guests The

first played the TV District Counciltive Marcella and will be

starring in Broken. The second has the night off from her award-winning

performance in Dreamgirls to be here for one night only. Did you just say

one night only? Any excuse. Anna Friel. And Amber Riley.

Evening. Evening. So you have the night off. What do you normally do?

Oh gosh, sleep, drink a-ha lot of water, watch a little TV. Help

yourself you can drink as much as you want. Thank you. Anna we saw you

at the Baftas last night. Presenting with Sean Bean. Gorgeous dress.

Thank you. How are you feeling today All right. I think I imagined to say

yes that my dress is going to be given off to the auction. No! After

two champagnes. That is a gorgeous dress, can we auction it. I said

yes. Are you regretting it. It is pretty but it is for a good cause.

There you go. Talking of award ceremonies, Amber, congratulations,

an Olivier Award. How do you celebrate winning something like

that? It must be a lifelong dream. It was a dream. I never expected

that was going to happen, it was amazing, my mum was here with me and

my sister was here, you would have thought my mum won when they said my

name. She jumped out of the chair, she scared me, but it was an amazing

night. Congratulations. But we promised you three dream guests so

later in the show Amber and her Dreamgirls co-star Liisi LaFontaine

will be performing live for us here in the studio.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE There you go. It is your night off

but you are singing for us. I heard row doing scales, I thought what was

that? That was me, just before the show! Now, moving on to our first

serious story of the night. Nobody likes litter on the street. Dropping

it is a criminal offence and anyone caught doing so can be fined up to

?80. It seems fair enough but according to figures in Panorama the

number of finings have soared from 700 ten years ago to over 140,000.

Critics are saying this is about profit rather than justice.

Meet the alleged criminals. The pill lates ballet teacher, the retired

civil servant. The graphic designer and her dog Olive. Each accused of

dropping litter and facing a hefty fine. If they don't pay they face

court and the possible of a criminal record. The trouble is, they are all

innocent. All I want to do is pick up the poo you say I am responsible

for. Amber was confronted by a council litter enforcement officer,

he accused her of failing to clear up her dog poo. A poo she says her

German Shepherd never did. The time is 11.50. If you do not mention

something you later Dee any in court... Amber says she found it

intimidating. I think that is a deliberate ploy to confuse people

and scare them into accepting a fine. She complained and Tower

Hamlets council dropped the case. It told us that environmental

enforcement officers changed people's behaviour. Increasingly,

enforcement officers are provided by private companies. Kingdom Services

has 28 contracts. There have been allegations that it pays its staff

by the ticket so we decided to send in an understood cover reporter. A

manager tells her every day once she has issued four tickets she will get

a bow news of up to ?6 a fine. -- bonus.

In Ealing kingdom officers have taken to riding on council rubbish

truck, their find people whose recycling has not been put out

properly. It hasn't gone down properly. Liz fell foul of kingdom

officers is last Christmas. So I put the big blue recycling bin out, six

small extra bags of recycling, and my green food bin. Nothing unusual,

everyone doing the same. I received a Fixed Penalty Notice for ?80 for

fly-tipping, on to the public high way, outside my own property.

Liz complained, the council dropped the case, saying the decision to

fine her was an error of judgment. Also in Ealing retired civil servant

Sue was served with a Fixed Penalty Notice. Can have a have a coffee

please. She allegedly had polluted the water course. On the day I

bought myself a take away cup of coffee, I thought I want rid of this

because I was rushing to a meeting. I put the coffee down the drain in

the road. Then I walked towards the waste bin, when the enforcement

officer stopped me and told me I was going to be fined and it was illegal

to put coffee down a drain in a public place.

To avoid a criminal record, Sue paid the fine, but then, went to her

local paper. The council caved in and handed her money back. Kingdom

told us: site. It says the allowance is met if they meet basic come pen

ten ises. It provides councils with a cost effective service and helps

Keep Britain Tidy within the law. Britain's anti-litter leading

charity is demanding a national academy for officers We would like

them to be properly trained. We would like them to understand what

needs to be achieved within the guideline, and I think we need to

continually check with the public, that this is very much done on their

behest. But as more private companies win litter contracts more

and more of us are at risk of being branded criminals.

And you can see that report in full on Panorama tonight at 8.30. Now,

Anna, let us talk about your new drama, starts Tuesday 23rd May. It

is called Broken. I have seen it and when you watch it. It's a lot to

take in. How doous with wanted to sell to it the nation. What do you

want to say. Jimmy McGovern, we will start there. We worked together once

before, doing something Called the Street it is a state of the nation

drama. My character is Christina who has three children, and she can't

afford to feet feed them. She is stuck in this circle, and, it is

about how she survives and what lengths she goes to in order to be

able to put food on the table for her kids. She seems to be the victim

of so many circumstances, that just get piled up on top of her. We can't

talk about the twist, something happens that is shocking but the

central character is the wonderful Sean Bean who plays a priest and he

tries to inspire and give hope to people, and hopefully religion helps

in some way. He is more like everybody's best friend. Very early

in the first episode your character loses her job, this is her trying to

get some emergency money from the DSS. Do you know anyone else who

could lend you some money. Bono, McCartney. Elton John. I don't nope

anyone who isn't skint. I have three kinds and no money. There must be

something I can claim to feed my kids. There might be the possibility

of a an emergency loan. Who decides what is genuine? Obviously a

successful amoment must have been genuine. But I won't need the money

then, would I? No. APPLAUSE

You don't watch this for escapism, this is about real lives. To have to

wait for 13 weeks, she says what am I supposed to do? I can't afford to

feed them. They say ask a friend, she is like none of my friends have

any money, they are having trouble feedling their own children, that is

based on fact. We have to really look at our nation, think that is

what Jimmy McGovern helps us to do through the powerful medium that is

television. Is that what you get as an actor out of playing these kind

of roles? What do you mean? Like, you know, there is no laughs, it is

not about entertainment as such, for you to be portraying real life

roles. Like I say, television is a powerful medium to tell a story. And

I was back in Liverpool for the first time, and Jimmy McGovern and I

both started on Brookside, so it came full circle. We loved Beth. I

was 16, so it was like going home. The most wonderful crew and a great

director, and I have been a huge Sean Bean fan, so I was very

honoured to be given this wonderful part. It is a very special drama.

One of the things... I am biased but I do think it is. We love reading

about how you get into character, you have shopped for the clothes for

your character, so you went out and went to charity shops and the like,

and got things that you thought the character would wear. We went

through the budget. I didn't go to do the shopping. I got involved very

much. We had a costume designer who did that, we wanted it to be real. I

have a bit a thing, I think those shoes are brand-new, we budgeted not

one piece of her clothing would cost more than ?4. We went to charity

shops and nothing was more than ?4. She wears flip-flops, and you can

hear her coming and they are quick and easy, she has three kids, and

she is under stress. You can fling it on. To get through your day. And

Amber, where does the drive for your character come from, when, obviously

it's a world away from this kind of drama, Dreamgirl, still, very real

character, with real struggles going on. I pretty much feel like everyone

has dealt with rejection somewhere in their life, you have to dig down

into that place, when you felt rejected, to get, you know, to my

character, because she is rejected a lot by the people that are closest

to her, in the show, and there is a type of youth and resilience she

shows throughout the whole entire show, that I feel like mirrors my

life a lot, so kind of helps me to get through it. With a smile like

that I can't imagine you ever being rejetted. That is where it came

from. We will talk more about Dreamgirls and how you got the part,

all of that still to come, but while you are singing above ground in the

West End, did you realise that under ground Europe's biggest

infrastructure project is being built. It has taken eight years so

far and ?15 billion but Crossrail is nearly complete. It will stretch

from ring in the west, under Central London to Essex in the east. Matt

has been helping put the finishing touches to the Elizabeth line.

Last time I was here in 2015, they were in the final stages of digging

26 miles of tunnel, under Central London. And I was right on the

scene, as the monster 1,000 tonne tunnelling machine broke through the

wall at Liverpool St Station. That is something you don't see every

day. That was nearly two years ago, and

since then, up to 10,000 construction workers at any one time

have been working on project round-the-clock. Now, it is not so

much about digging great big tunnels, as about installing all of

the facilities, that passengers will need on a day-to-day basis. This is

going to be the main ticket hall at Tottenham Court Road station. Soon

there will be more than 170,000 passengers passing through daily. So

they are going to need some pretty big escalators.

Rachel Morris is the engineer in charge of these huge machines.

These escalators are 45 metres long, they have 23-and-a-half metres from

the top landing down to the bottom landing. Each escalator weighed 45

tonnes, that is as much as 11 double decker buses. How do you get

something this big into this space? These escalators have been built

once in the factory many in the Czech Republic, they were broken

down, so they were packaged up into boxes and then you have to work out

how to lower it into position, and how you hold all the sections of the

escalator in place, because it is only secure when you have the final

piece in position. It is quite an interesting engineering challenge.

Interesting means really difficult. Yes. Of course, nothing in this

project is easy. Further into the construction site, teams are still

laying tracks for the new line. The man in charge is Greg Purcell. Today

we are building the cross over. What it does is enables the trains to go

from one tunnel to another. If you have a train that is broken down in

one of the stations you can move trains around stations. Right now,

they are moving one of the cross over rail pieces into position and I

am helping. Where will we left it from Here, one chain there. A single

lift chain at that end. You have to keep the chains away from you. OK. I

got you. Right, shall we get out the way then? Can do, yes. We drop them

on top of this concrete which is called the first stage concrete and

we concrete the whole thing in. So it is set permanently. For the next

120 years. As the workers get on with laying another six miles of

track, I am off to check out one of the eight new underground stations.

All the new platforms will have screens to separate the passengers

from the track. They are pioneering a new method of installation, headed

up by Steve Coll. Typically these are built piece by piece on the

platform and what we have done is built them in the factory, bringing

them in on the train where they are lifted and dropped onto the edge of

the platform. We can put in typically a platform worth of doors

in a week, to build them from scratch would take about five weeks.

That is a thing of beauty, I am telling you,. What are the screams

for? It makes a safer environment for the passengers, by going all the

way to the ceiling, it separates the tunnels from the platform space.

When the trains come, you will not get a horrible blast of air. It

enables the temperature to be controlled better. I have been

following the Crossrail shift for 12 hours and it is well past midnight

at the construction project that never sleeps. It has been a

fascinating day, seen all the incredible technology that goes into

making this astonishing railway. I for one cannot wait to ride on it

for real. And part of Crossrail will be opening in the coming weeks and

the documentary starts next Monday on BBC Two. We were chatting there

about your new life in London, Amber, how do you get on with the

underground system? You know... It took me awhile, we do not really

have the trains back home, I am from California, we just drive and it

took me awhile to get a handle on it but I recently got lost because I

did not know the difference between the circle and the district line. It

is an easy mistake to make. Where did you end up? I don't know! Back

where you started! I had to start over, I was very late for a meeting.

As we mentioned at the beginning of a shill, congratulations, you won

the Olivier award and Jennifer Hudson won a BAFTA and an Oscar for

her role in Dreamgirls and we think it is down to this song. This is

what nails it every time. # You're going to love me.

# Love me. # Love me.

# Love. # You're going to love me.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Oh my goodness! It is so hard to watch. If

I could sing like that, I would listen to myself all day!

Definitely! Talking about that boys, the part nearly did not happen for

you because of something that was going on with your throat. I had

recently had surgery, I was on Plea for so many years and when your

adrenaline is going and you finally get time to rest, sometimes your

body wants to take you down and take you out like you need to chill out

and I ended up having surgery on my voice and then I had the audition

for Dreamgirls two weeks later and I was like, once opportunity, I have

got to go and it it ended up working out. It is such a feel-good show and

the audience, every night, they want to join you. I think so. I think

some people would rather be on stage than in their seats! It is such big

songs, you cannot help but sing along. It is amazing, it is a

mixture of an audience, you have the people who are used to go into the

theatre and then a young crowd that watches it like television or a

movie and they want to be interactive and involved. The

emotions are high in that show. It is a lot of fun, it is a lot of

drama, a lot of funny moments, a lot of music and lights, lots of

crystals for those of you who like glitter. We are going to have some

music shortly. We are. The cast recording of Dreamgirls will be out

and we will have a live performance of Listen which is one of our four

Brits. -- Michael one of our favourites. Next week Andrew Neil

will be interviewing party leaders and it will be interesting to see if

they manage to remain on message at all times which often means avoiding

the question entirely. Isn't that right? I refuse to confirm or deny

what you said! What I can say is that this is a film by Jill Crowley

looking at avoiding the question. You're not answering the question.

We have all seen them at it. Politicians refusing to give a

straight answer. I am asking a simple rather basic question. How do

they get away with it? The skill any politician must learn is not just

avoiding the question if they do not want to answer, it is doing it in a

way that you do not notice. That is why many politicians are media

trained in specialist techniques designed to throw even the most

determined into pure off dissent. And we want to let Yue Lin on the

secrets as well so that the next time you see a petition doing it,

you're wise to it. Nora is a regular on the programme is one show

pensioner and has strong views on politicians who avoid the question.

They think no one has noticed and they just carry on and say whatever

they want. Today in a bid to see if anyone can be media trained, the

tables are being turned and it is Norah who will be put under the

spotlight in the scenario to show how it works. Let us say that her

friend Vicki Wilson is a leading light in the local ladies bakery

circle. Final touches. Her friends are arriving for a coffee morning

and there is just one unspoken rule, everyone must bring a home-baked

cake. Cheating with a cake from the shop is an thinkable. But Nora is

running late, although with enough coming, will anyone notice. Thank

you. You have excelled yourself. Sorry to interrupt, Vicki, I think

you should see this receipt that Nora dropped. How could you? Nora is

in big trouble. A simple lie like this could escalate for a

politician, so if Nora was a politician, how would she defend

herself against a grilling from one of the top interrogators? To find

out we have enlisted the help of Jim Hancock, a veteran of the TV

political interview and media trained. I would never personally

suggest that you do not directly answer the question but a lot of

politicians are taught three techniques to do precisely that. So

I will teach them to you. Excellent the first one is this, you go on the

attack, you say you do not know anything about coughing mornings. To

protect her credibility, Nora cannot admit that she did buy the cake, but

you cannot lie either. How could you go to a shop and buy cakes and

masquerade them as home-made cakes for this coffee morning? What do you

know about coughing mornings? The whole point is that there was no

brief given that it had to be home-made. That was pretty feisty.

Technique number two, the non-specific response. In other

words, when put on the spot, change the subject to create space for what

you want to say. You do not want to be like a boxer with all the

questions coming in and you are on the ropes, you need to say, perhaps

we need to look at it in a different way. You're missing the whole point,

this was a coffee morning, people come together to meet and have a

drink of coffee or tea and they meet to discuss the cake that they have

brought. You're hesitating a bit. Technique number three, refuse to

answer the hypothetical question. It is a long line of what if something

happened, OK? Nora should now be fully armed. Brilliant, I think

you're ready for your grilling. Thank you. Breakfast presenter

Rachel burden wastes no time getting to the point. Did you buy back cake?

To understand fully the rules of a coffee morning? Because I do not

think you do. The rules are you take a cake. Nora, I have a receipt here.

Was this not a receipt for items that you purchase, none other than a

cake and lemons? I am not denying that that is my receipt. Nora is

under pressure, time to change tactics. The whole point about this

is not about the cake, it is about going to a cake and coffee morning

with friends that you love, having a nice time and just enjoying your

self with a chat and a piece of cake and a cup of coffee. Nicely done!

What if you went to a coffee morning and you saw a friend there who had

brought along a cake that you knew to be shop bought? That is purely

hypothetical and I am not point to answer that question. What did you

think of Nora? She was amazing, brutal, single-minded. She was not

when to give you that answer. She knew exactly what she had to say and

you stayed on it. That was a wonderful experience, the next time

friends of mine give me any lip, I know how to deal with them. I think

we all learned something. Thank you to everyone. Thank you to Anna Friel

for joining us. Broken is on BC1 at nine o'clock. We will be here

tomorrow with Frankie Dettori. Now we have Liisi LaFontaine and Amber

Riley performing Listen. # To take my share of blame. The

rig-macro for what went wrong. Listen.

# The one who loved you so. # For all so long.

# Listen. # To the girl you used to know.

# The one who loved to sell back in the day.

# Oh, Deena, I know what you're going through.

# I got through it and now you can too.

# You have got to learn to listen. # Listen.

# There is a voice deep in you. # This is the voice that will guide

you. # To where you need to be.

# It will set you free. # Listen.

# It is alone and lonely road. # But you have got to take it.

# It is going to hurt like hell today.

# But trust me girl, it will go away.

# It goes away. # I don't want to do it alone.

# Will you help me be strong? # Please.

# Sister, please. # Listen.

# To the girl you used to know. # The one who loved you so.

# Back in the day. # Now I know what I must do.

# I am going to leave it, sister. # I will be strong.

# I know I can. # I will pick myself up.

# And believe that man. # I'm going to make it on my own.

# On my own.