17/10/2016 The One Show

Hello and welcome to a slightly later One Show

Yes, we're on half an hour later so the news could cover the tens

of thousands of people who lined the streets of Manchester

for the homecoming parade celebrating Team GB's Olympic

and Paralympic heroes after their amazing success in Rio.

Let's have a round of applause... There's another parade

in London tomorrow. our guest tonight has announced

he'll play his first big concert since last on stage nine years ago.

Now, we could sit here and tell you how many records he's sold...

Or how many music awards are on his mantlepiece.

Instead, we'll just let you enjoy some of his best...

# Please give me one more night Give me one more night.

# Two hearts beating just one mind. Please welcome, yes, it is Phil

Collins. Phil Collins. Well, we just did that

really embarrassing things of singing your songs while you are sat

there. You cannot help it. It is nice to hear it. You've got a nice

voice. Only you. You are the first one to say that, Phil, ever. To be

fair, you were tapping away. You were doing the old base drum. I was

trying to bang the old leg back into place! You announced you will do

some concerts in London, Paris, co-long. By the time you get on

stage it will be ten years since the last time. Why the change of heart?

Six years ago you said you would retire. Well, I did. I did want to

stop and I did want to stop mainly because, you know, being married and

having two young children, Matthew was just born and Nicholas was about

three or four, I wanted to be at home and be a dad. That was very

important to me. Unfortunately, my marriage broke up around that same

time, which means when I retired there was no family to be with. But

anyway, I kind of felt that I'd kind of needed to be off the round about.

Now I am back with the two younger kids. They have encouraged me. You

know... When they get in the car, it's like play daddy's music. Oh, is

that true? Play daddy's music and Matthew who is 11 will say, when are

you going to write some new stuff, dad? They are really to blame. That

is the point it's so cross-generational. I remember as a

young lad I would travel a long way to go to gym and every night my mum

would put your music on. Now I pass it on to my children as well. You

have got your book, your album. It's all going off, Phil. All systems go,

as they say. First I will put your motoring head on. OK, you are

passing a cyclist, how much room do you give them? Do you know how much

room you are supposed to? Not officially. No That is the question.

Trish has been out with the police force who are trying to make sure

that drivers keep cyclists at arm's length..

While drivers find some cyclists attitude infuriating, the statistics

show those on bikes are 17 times more likely to be kill ond the road

than those in car. Here in Birmingham the police are trying to

do something about it, by going undercover. Today this PC is donning

some lick consider. With his bike-mounted cameras he's going

undercover to spot drivers who are too close to comfort. There is a

close-pass, something which cyclists hate and fear.

Anyone caught today can choose to have either three points on their

licence or a 50-minute talking to by the officer. When passing anyone on

the road you should give it at least a car's door width. There's no way

motorists would know to be this far from the bike. We need to take the

education back to the car drivers and remind them of the law. I wait

for offenders with PC Mark Godson. How important is it to be

undercover? We want cyclists to be treated like any other cyclist on

the road. That way you get the true nature of the driving. The driver is

disciplined. He doesn't want to talk tows. Here a -- talk to us. Here a

bin lorry has been stopped. Most drivers choose the awareness session

over points on their license. The most important thing is if you try

and take away this 1.5 metre, this five-foot distance. What do you

think you did wrong today? Nothing. I thought I gave him plenty of

space. I cycle myself. You should be a better driver when it comes to

cyclists. . I was on my way to an appointment. Cyclists are instructed

to ride one metres from the curb. That is the instruction. This is the

space that should be between your car and the cyclist.

OK. That is much bigger than I thought. Say your cyclist is on his

lane here, how wide are my arms and elbows out now? Arms and shoulders.

If I can reach across and touch your car, you are too close. We know you

don't drive badly, we want to make you more aware of vulnerable road

users. It is a good job I used my indicator now I have been pulled in.

In a double whammy Chris is passed too close by a driver who appears to

be reading at the same time. Just over there for us. While you

were driving your car if you've anything causing a distraction you

are a danger and specifically to cyclists. You were very close to

that cyclist. Too close. Again the driver didn't want to talk to us.

Before he finishes his shift it seems Chris has plans for me. How

did it go today? Successful today. We stopped a number of motorists in

a short space of time. I am definitely more used to four wheels

than two. We have to take you up some hills.

Oh, no. Chris is keen to ride two abreast, which surprises me because

it infuriates motorists. It is not against the law. The Highway Code

suggest cyclists ride two abreast. You only have one length of bicycle

to overtake. If I were to drop in behind you now, that car driver has

two lengths of bicycle to overtake. OK, so we have got to... We have it

going past us now. That was scary! I will have so much more respect for

cyclists knowing what it is like being in the saddle.

It has been a real eye-opener today. If it means that drivers give

cyclists more room on the road I, for one, will get on my bike a lot

more. And Trish has cycled here,

incredible. It is lovely to see you. Cyclists can cycle a full metre away

from the curb. Forget mind the gap, it is a huge gap. The Highway Code

does not say where to position themselves. Use the default

position. We speak to scoop cycle Training UK. They said make sure you

can be seen and if in doubt, use the middle of the lane as a default

position. OK, is this scheme going to be rolled out across the whole

country Yes. Police Scotland are looking at it. It has gone as far as

Canada, Denmark and Switzerland. So they are looking to take this on.

Undercover pedal police are here to stay. Wow my brother-in-law is in

Humberside Police. I can not imagine him in like ca. Within two or three

minutes of being in London last night I saw a cyclist cycling across

a red light without any lights on. This is the thing. There are big

fines for that. Absolutely. Cyclists do get fined if they cycle badly.

For example, Greater Manchester Police you can do a course to avoid

the fine, but if you don't... He was cycling very well, but just? The

dark, through a red line. It wasn't like he was cycling bad. He was

fantastic. Motorists are still to blame in serious collisions, 57% of

motorists didn't see the cyclist at junctions. They've got no lights,

that's all. We will have to leave it there.

25 years ago this magazine here was launched to help the homeless. To

celebrate its success, the man who created it went back to his old

college to reveal some of his own big issues.

My name is John Bird, are or plain Lord Bird, if you like.

In 1991 I started The Big Issue, the world's biggest

Today I'm giving a One Show Life Lecture about the things I've

And it's a story of high art and low life.

From the age of ten we lived up there, at number 30.

We were in the orphanage for three years and before

that we were in a slum and before that we were in a slum.

Still the noisy King's Road, New King's Road.

It was a terrible place to bring children up.

Dad used to drink a lot, my mum used to drink a lot.

Given five years probation for shoplifting at the age of ten.

And this went on until I was nearly 16, when I got put

You can see the initials of my brother, Peter Bird.

You believed in education and you wanted to educate me

and I remember you giving me my first ever book,

I was trying to get you into the middle

It didn't work, though, I'm sorry.

There is no doubt at this point I was on my way to a

But whilst in prison I discovered something that changed

When I was 18 I was told that if you were an art student you got

I was going to evening classes, pretending I was an art student.

I said to one of the instructors, do you think it would be a good idea

if I applied to become an art student.

He said, I thought you were an art student!

Only art students are allowed in here.

And they asked me if I had any levels, any O-levels,

A-levels and all those things and I said, I haven't got anything.

So they said, well, we'll handle that.

Suddenly, I wasn't a tea-leaf anymore but a promising painter

and fine art printer at the Chelsea School of Art.

But not everyone shared my new-found sense of purpose in life.

My mum took my student grant and threw me out on the streets.

I know experienced homelessness first-hand.

I used to sleep under the rhododendrons.

Largely because people couldn't see you but also

because it was near the road, so if somebody did come

and try to get hold of me, I could scream and run out

In 1967 I decided to run away to Paris, which at the time

seemed more exciting and, yes, artistic.

Here, my printing skills even came in handy.

I used them to print some pretty revolutionary material.

I now knew what I wanted to do in life.

Fight injustice through the power of art and the written word.

Back in London in 1991, I launched The Big Issue.

And 25 years on, it's still going strong.

So, with my somewhat unorthodox background,

what lessons can I give to the students of my alma mater

I'm here to kind of give you a little bit of guidance.

The first lesson I would offer anybody who was starting out

as an artist is you are moving into a world full of sharks.

People who will promise you the earth and deliver

The other interesting one is always start from where you are.

A severely damaged post-war piece of social wastage who eventually

You have to learn to be the best at something.

You have to burn the candle at both ends.

You have to sweat blood for what you believe in.

Chelsea College of Arts should be full of aspiring geniuses!

Thanks to John - the 25th Anniversary issue

Your autobiography is out now. You don't hold back. Can we start at the

beginning, when you were a little lad with your very very first drum

kit and tell us that lovely story that you put there the book. The

first thing when I was three, that I remember was a plastic drum. And

back in my day when it was Christmas you got a soldier, a ball. Trapping

Ian. O you know, you didn't get the complete Star Wars fleet. You didn't

get a PlayStation with the games, so life was different. I took to this

drum and so my uncles made me a drum kit, when I was five. I gradually, I

got to know a friend across the road who was selling a snare drum, bass

drum, and then at 12, I made the ultimate sacrifice of selling my

brother's train set. Did you ask him permission? Permission? Permission?

No, of course not. My mum and I went 50% each on a cheap drum kit and we

went to a shop called Alberts in Twickenham, which you know, of

course is no longer there, but you know, I bought a drum kit, and that,

that saw me through the early 60s, you know. The early 6 o 0s was when

it was all happening. It became at one point a toss up, between acting,

and drumming. Not for me it didn't. Your parents were supportive either

way. They were keen on that path for you. Back then, if you want to be a

drummer you had to wait until you were 18, 19 before you could do it.

Now you have multi-platinum records out if you are 14. So, I did the

acting thing, it was great fun, I mean some things were much more fun

than others, the art full dodger in Oliver with Jack wild there. You

know, that was fantastic, then I had some dodgy moments and really all I

wanted to do was play drums, so as soon as I could, escape, I did. Much

to my father's I wouldn't say disgust, that is too strong, he

wasn't, he was disappointed. He felt it would be better for you to go

into acting. No better to me to go into the City of London insurance.

Really, there we are. Talking of going into the city we took a drum

kit into the city, just to see what would happen. To see if we can find

any budding Phil Collinses. This is what happened. Look.

It is like going into a trance when you play drums.

I play African drums but you won't play because neighbours may

complain. Really liberating. Getting my

frustrations out. When I am drumming it makes me feel

powerful. How did it feel? Exciting.

APPLAUSE So what do you reckon? Anybody there

you thought had a real knack? Yes, there was stuff at the end that was

kind of, you know... What impressed me was three or four guys in, the

sound changed, and it became more roomy, and that sounded impressive.

Sometimes it is not what you play, it's the sound of what you play, you

know. You can do... And if the sound is right... That is what I always

say about drumming. LAUGHTER

. So true. I think it is a great idea, for kids to have, if your

house allows, to have a place because it lets off steam, and it

kind of, you know, gives you a bit of, you know, this is me doing it, I

think that is good for kids. I couldn't agree more and your

household has been full of music, and you were saying earlier on about

your sons and how they are brilliant drummers. Simon is 40, he is a

fantastic drummer, he plays piano, writes, sing, does his own records,

Nicholas, he is 15 now, and he is, he is awesome as a drummer, I have

to say, awesome. I haven't taught them, I mean Matthew my youngest is

a fantastic soccer player, I say soccer because he is an American

man, it is football really. If you live over there football is

something else. But it is yes, I am lucky, all my kids have become

talented. It is just as well, really. It is just as well, because

your dedication to drumming has resulted and you talk candidly in

the book about it in lots of health problems as a result. How you now

then? Coughs I am OK. I still have this problem with my left arm a bit.

It is getting better. I should practise. You know, you get to

Carnegie haul by practising, but I had back surgery a year ago -- hall.

That left me with a numb foot, hence the stick I arrived with. And it is

just the nerves need to regenerate. Apart from that I am fine. That is

why I call the book Not Dead Yet because a lot has been made of the

health. It took you five years to write it, you have waited a long

time to do it, what is the reason for you putting all this down? You

say at the beginning in the first few page, this is my view, the

events the way I see them. Have you tried to set the record straight

with this? It wasn't meant to be a get even book, it was just to take a

bit of the lid off things, you know, that we all have, we have all got,

we have all been young with our mum's -- mums and dads, we have

children, and suddenly, you know, you, and the witness accident,

witnesses to accidents, you know, someone said he wore a grey jumper,

someone said he wore a blue jumper, we all perceive things differently,

so in life, my camera went off at a certain time and I remember things a

certain way. So I kind of pre-empt that by saying, you know, this is

the way I remember it happening. Phil it is just the most

extraordinary read. Page after page, decade after decade, and we haven't

got any more time to talk about it. We talked about so much. Any way, go

out and read it. It south on Thursday. It really is something

else. OK, let's give a big welcome

to a new species to the UK. This is the Viper's-bugloss mason

bee, which has just been spotted for the very

first time on our shores. And if you're a rare bee

connoisseur, then George has found something for you -

at a very unlikely site. Can I have wick in Essex was once

earmarked for an oil refinery, building work started but in the

'70s all development stopped. The abandoned brownfield site has been

dubbed the wild east of modern Britain.

The oil refinery developers dredged the Thames and dumped the shell

laden nutrient rich soil on the surrounding land, inadvertently

created the perfect habitat for plant, birds and invertebrates.

By some measure of diversity can I have wick could be as rich as a

rainforest. Doctor Sarah Henshall of bug life

manages the site, along with the RSPB. This is an SSI, a site of

special scientific interest but it is particularly so because of the

insects. There is round 1400 species. It has everything they need

to complete the life cycle. There is areas of ground to bask in, lots of

floral research, nectar and pollen and they scrub things over in

winter. Sarah will help me find insects and many are very rare.

This is a photograph of one of our rarest and most threatened bees in

the UK. Suffered massive decline due to a loss of wild flowers. I hope we

will see some beetles. The bomb bah deer beetle. I I can't wait to get

on with this. Shall we get on? Yes. We have recruited an army of

volunteers to help us do a bioglitz. We will Garner as many species of

insect as we can across the varied habitat. And it is not long before

the tree beaters find and interesting beastie. What is under

there? Lovely. A long horn beetle. It is just fantastically hairy. Not,

I have to say a particularly rare thing. Nice but not rare.

The insect catcher sucks up one of our target species. What have you

got there? A bomb bah deer beetle. Wonderful.

That is so cool. The next find comes from the grass

sweepers. Brilliant, this could be what we are

looking for. George. Is that it? Is that the insect? This is one of our

most rarest bees, that is fantastic. It looks like a worker. Once

widespread there are now only seven populations left. That is less than

2,000 bees. We have a Queen, which is very very

exciting. My first ever. This are quiet at the moment. If you hold

them close to your ear... Yeah. Oh yes. A little buzz, a high pitched

buzz. Beautiful.

It is bee-autiful. She is having a feed. It is amazing we are under the

flight path of London airport but this is just an oasis of wildlife.

Most of it is stunning like this ruby moth that lays its eggs in the

nests of other bees and wasps. We have collected well over 100

species, we have done it, just before the rain. So I think the

sooner we get this stuff released the better. Well done.

I am staggered at the diversity of animals here, and I am very glad

that the oil refinery business started their work but failed to

finish it. Thank you Phil. We have to say a

very big thank you to Phil Collins. The album which we never got the

chance to talk about, The Singles is out now. We will be back tomorrow

with Donny Osmond. Have a lovely evening. Bye.

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