18/04/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Michelle Ackerley...

Tonight we have the mind-boggling story of the

Robertson family who were lost at sea for 38 days in an open boat

If you cannot remember it, it is one to watch.

And Nick Knowles will be revealing how

he's been working with the Royal Princes to promote mental

We will be talking to nick in a moment and three of the runners

little bit later. Sorry to interrupts the training, by the way.

First though today's dramatic election news

and two people who are, I think it's fair to say,

You're not going to pretend you knew this was coming? I was on the M4

trying to have a holiday and I got a call from the One Show editor. If

you are people like me and Matt, it is quite exciting. You wait five

years for an election to come around and three come at once. We had the

referendum, the Scottish referendum and another one. Politics has

suddenly got very exciting. Your eyes would glinting. I am so

excited! You cannot get enough of it. Not just from a work point of

view. It is good for people like us. For a punter, it is like Fifa saying

there will be a World Cup in six weeks. All of this stuff happening

when you think about what it will mean and all the characters back in

play. Nigel barrage will be outside of a pub, drinking and smoking. --

Farage. Are these the questions, by the way?

All of it, I cannot wait. How are we going to know who to believe?

Theresa May said there would not be an election now there is. Overall,

people kind of pick and choose the things they take seriously as broken

promises. Once an election starts it is about who you want to run the

country. If it were a broken promise about investment in the NHS, put

that on the of a bus on the previous campaign, we might feel sore about

that. Once the campaign starts you get swept up in it. Remember

America. Once the things are called, all the wonderful stuff and it would

be such a beautiful election. You'll be so beautiful. Theresa May will

get her own mandate. -- it will be so beautiful. You are going to love

it so much. Is everyone else as excited

as Matt and Amol though? When the BBC broke the news

at 10:55am with this tweet, we told our film teams working

around the UK to drop what they were working on and ask

this simple question. Are you happy or unhappy to be

heading back to the polling stations just two years

after the last election? I am not going to be calling a snap

election. I have been very clear that we need that of time, that's

the late stability. I have just chaired a meeting of the cabinet

where we have agreed the Government shall call a general election. It is

time to take the challenge to the Tories. If she wants to call an

election, we should be ready to take her on. I think it was going to

come, especially with the debate about Europe. She is not really for

it herself. What she is looking for is a vote of confidence, more than

anything else. I had it in my head there was not going to be another

election until 2020. The fact it is happening now in 2017 is quite a

shock, but it is a cool shock. I think it is shocking she should go

back on her policy before which was not to have a snap general election.

There is no opposition. It could be that will make Labour disappear. It

probably will not unite the country but it will give whoever gets in a

stronger mandate. The last time I voted Liberal Democrat, so I think

it is quite a good time for us. I do not think calling a general election

is a good idea. Politics here is a shambles. I think she has picked it

tactically got that she knows the Labour Party is in crisis. She could

be the leader of the country needs. I like her. She is a very strong

lady. I would be quite happy to vote. I am happy she has called a

general election. With the EU referendum campaign asked you, I do

not think people understood it. It is a good chance for people to get

almost a second chance. Labour in the UK are so weakened. Can Jeremy

Corbyn get a strong Labour vote out Qwest might is hard to say. I think

he will. I can see this backfiring on Theresa May, the same way it

backfired on her predecessor. I think she has just got fed up. The

summer is coming. She wants out. Instead of giving in her notice like

a normal job, she has called a general election. It is like another

gain. You're not going to walk out there if you know you will lose. She

wants to get people talking about politics. She was never elected. To

get a mandate, she needs the will of the people to go with it. I think

she needed to do it to get the backing of the people. I think it is

a good idea. They will settle a lot of the questions in the country at

the moment. Referendum after referendum, election after election.

I think a lot of people are getting a bit fed up. I think it is the

Tories taking advantage of the polls. It will put them in a strong

position for negotiating Brexit. I think it is just another part of the

Brexit gains the Tory Party has been playing right from the word go. She

is not on the coat-tails of David Cameron for that she is standing on

her own. I do not think she has much of viable opposition.

Thank you to one and all. Who is that boy in Cardiff! He was great,

wasn't he? Well done. Thank you very much indeed. Let's talk about this

decision by Theresa May. Apparently she made the decision just before

Easter. She was walking with her husband in Wales. I wish she is a

keen walker. We must set the scene. She has a spring water with a

thermos rucksack and walking poles. There we are. She is surveying this

political landscape. We will go with the pros and cons of the

eventualities. Let's start with the pros. Do you want me to be Theresa

May? Keep it to politics, will you? She is saying, Philip... Arguments

in favour. I am doing the hardest thing a British minister has had to

do for a long time. I need a mandate, backing from the public

what I am going to do and a big majority in the House of Commons. It

will never be so easy for me. I have a massive lead in the polls. I am 20

points ahead of Jeremy Corbyn for them if I do not do it now, I might

always reject it -- regret it. What will be going through her head? The

cons are that she said she would not have an election, so it those are

the seeds of doubt about integrity. That is right. For a lot of people,

she is reminiscent of Gordon Brown. They both followed charismatic

leaders were a break from the Cabinet style government, sofa style

government. Gordon found himself in a position where he could have won

the general election and he chose not to. Theresa May will have had

that at the back of her mind. All the other downsides are displayed on

Gordon Brown's TV. People will think, you're only calculating

anyway. That is part of the downside. If the polls were more

narrow, you would not have called it. She can say what she likes about

Brexit. She was saying the opposite yesterday. In her head she says it

is a calculation. That is worth the cost to her reputation in the

short-term. I think the biggest reason not to call this election now

is people could say, why should I ever trust you again is might you

said time and again you are not going to call an election. Now you

have changed your mind. Why should I trust you? Theresa May is an unusual

Prime Minister. She is not like David Cameron or Tony Blair. She is

very serious. She is, trust me, I am your leader. Talk about strong and

stable leadership. Now she has changed her mind. Regarding what the

world is thinking, what will Donald Trump be saying down his camera? I

love Theresa May. We got very close. I got close to a lot of women, like

I did Theresa May. You only held hands. Very big hands. You know what

that means! A pleasure. One of our leading mental health

professionals has said that by talking about his mother's death,

Prince Harry had done more good for sufferers in 25

minutes than he had been In a moment, Nick Knowles will be

telling us about his work in this area with Harry and The Duke

and Duchess of Cambridge ahead of This is 24-year-old music artist.

After being filmed on the tube singing along to a Rhianna song he

became a viral sensation. The video was viewed over two and a half

million times. What people did not realise is this was one of the

darkest times of his life. He was suffering with mental illness. I

felt exposed. It became overwhelming and I was under a lot of pressure.

It was the final blow when I saw the video. I thought the best thing

would be to run away and hide in myself. So, that's what I chose to

do. I could not tell you what happened. I was so confused. In my

darkest moments, they started harming myself. The mind is very

powerful. That is where my mind was at at the time. It is estimated

that, in an average year, one in four Brits will experience the

mental health problem. If you are a black man, you are 17 times more

likely than your white counterpart to be diagnosed with a psychotic

illness. This is due to factors some professionals have said may include

poverty, racism and cultural misunderstandings. This is a

long-standing issue. It is something that has been a challenge for many

years. If you will have effective intervention and therapy, the

service has to be built around understanding of these issues. We

found that having music as a way in gauging these people, it has been a

big part of a lot of these initiatives. People need to

understand the value of the ways into these communities. It is hard

for black males to deal with mental illness because they are frowned

upon. People throw jokes around. You are crazy. I throw jokes around as

well. In 2014, Kenneth, also known by his stage name, was sectioned

under the Mental Health Act. He has been battling with his conditions

ever since. This is the magic that I come to every night. It is two mg,

three mg. It calms me down and abandons out my thoughts and stuff.

I had no one to talk to about it at the time, only me. These thoughts

and feelings I was feeling, I kept them to myself. It was hard to share

probably because of embarrassment, probably because of the image I have

built up for myself. Now I understand it is cool to turn to

people. You can talk to whoever you want. Following a brief time in the

music industry where he enjoyed success as part of the group,

Kenneth now sees music as a way to highlight his own personal battle

with mental illness. Most of my friends find out more stuff through

the music. They cannot wait to hear what's next. They will find out the

hidden agenda I have not told them yet. He uses music as a form of

therapy. During recovery, he used the services of key changes, the

charity who uses this as a remedy. Tonight he is attending one of their

regular open mike nights. Accompanied by another man after he

saw the you video online. When I saw it, I knew exactly what was going

on. I knew he was trying to block everything out and not fall back

into a relapse, a zone. That is what music does. I think it helps you. A

lot of people do not know. That is what really drove me over the edge.

Music is literally my only show. I used it to keep my head above water.

That was used against me. Music has given me a voice to vent and a place

to express myself. That is important. Most people going through

our situation do not have a voice. You can become their voice. I

appreciate it. Well, that's how music

can help some people. Nick Knowles is here now with three

people using running - specifically preparing

for the London Marathon - This is interesting. You have worked

on lots of different big projects. How does this compare? It is a

centre point of the BBC's health batch of programmes. It was a really

ambitious project to take ten people, who were dealing with very

different mental health issues. All of them suffering with anxiety. Even

getting these people to gather together in a room, six months ago

when cameras were around, was a tough ask. The first day when I was

trying to make friends with everyone really quickly, they did not want to

be there. You guys felt really comfortable did not want to be

there. They bonded together so quickly. The fact they are out here

talking about it in the way they are now is testament to the amazing work

they have done in using music exercise as a coping strategy. We

are trying to show that we can use exercise and good nutrition and

getting out into the countryside to help you cope.

It's all for a programme called Mind Over Marathon.

The volunteers have been set the ultimate running challenge,

completing the 2017 London Marathon. They will be getting some special

support from The Royals whose campaign heads together aims to

change the way we talk about mental health. I think we really just want

to reduce the stigma. As a nation, talking about mental health is best

for everybody. You are the heroes because you are standing up there

telling your stories. Accomplishing 26 gruelling miles is not just a

punishing physical undertaking but a mental one as well. Every single day

at the moment. APPLAUSE The marathon is this Sunday and I

know you have all had a big day today with Prince William, what is

it been like to have such high profile people talking about things

that relate to you? It's amazing to have met them but to have them as

the heads of the campaign is such an amazing thing and for them to be

open and honest and talk about what they have been through as well. But

they really do listen. Those conversations are intimate. Yeah,

they are such lovely people. It's been such a journey. Simon, tell me

how you have changed in this process because it's been pretty hard-core.

As Nick said, when we first came in the room at the start you could feel

the tension. I guess when we first arrived at the first training camp

there was ten of us all dealing with similar issues and that was a common

thread, it is what we bonded over. It was a weird event in the evening

where me and a few of the boys went to the pub and we were all just they

are having a drink and talking about feelings and emotions and when would

that happen in real life? But it was that thing which brought us together

quickly. I think over the course of six months, when you are dealing

with any sort of mental health condition it's the whole stigma

about it and the idea that you cannot openly talk about it with

anyone, down the pub or with family and friends, it's something you hide

away from. There has been a cathartic process of making the

documentary where we all know it's going to go out and it's going to be

high-profile, we are going to have to start opening up to people about

it and taking ownership of what we have been through. Shereece we are

watching you do activity, how much is that helped, the physical side? I

do not do sport, I run for the bus and that is the most I do! I am a

singer so I thought I had good breath control until I started

training and I realised I did not. Running helps me tuned into my

breathing technique because I suffer from anxiety it's like I have

literally for the past few months been able to take myself out of

three episodes by myself so I know I have achieved something just from

running. We can watch it all and Ford -- watch it all unfold. Now to

the story we promised, this is the type of stuff movies are made of. It

was 46 years ago we set sail from here, we live in Falmouth. My twin

and I were nine and one Sunday morning he said why don't we sail

around the world and crazily my dad said yes, good idea. Dad sold the

farm for ?8,250 and most of it went on a wooden spoon. We could not

believe our luck, we had been taken out of school and were going to my

dad called the University of life. When we set sail the twins were 11,

I was 16 and my sister was 18. The boat was about the same size as the

boat we on now. Dad was a marinara, none of us had ever been on a boat

before and when we got here he did not even take us around the harbour.

He just set sail. We were so excited, we were going to cross the

Atlantic and circumnavigate the world. In the the Hammers I met and

fell in love with a young man and I decided to jump ship so to speak --

in the Bahamas. I was a student, I wanted to travel around the world. I

joined the Robertsons and little did I know what was going to befall me

over the next few weeks and months. It happened a couple out of the

blue. An almighty crash. Three killer whale is hitting the whole.

It took the ball down with it. We had the dinghy and a life raft and

we clambered aboard, we had some onions and oranges, six lemons, a

bag of boiled sweets and enough water for ten days. After two weeks

the raft was leaking so badly we had to leave it and climb aboard the

dinghy. It was a matter of hanging in there and keeping your marbles.

It rained and we collected rainwater which drained off the canopy but it

was never enough. The worst thing was nobody knew we were missing. We

would eat raw fish and we caught and eight raw shark. Then came the

turtles which were the main staple for survival. We were pulling them

out of the water, we got proficient in this after the second, third,

fourth turtle. After 30 days we saw a ship on the horizon and fired

flares. We thought the ordeal was over and we all just sat there and

this big fishing boat came alongside. Japanese hands helping us

on board. It was the most exhilarating moment of my life. When

I was back in England presuming they were having a wonderful time I saw

the six o'clock News and could not believe it. They still do not know

what happened to the family because none of the men on board speak

English. We sank in a very short time and had to survive from the sea

for as long as we were able. We could not walk, we just fell over.

We had not been using our leg muscles for 30 days. Those guys

saved our lives. We brought the boat back and gave it to Falmouth for the

public to see. There she is. Oh gosh, memories. 46 years. Since we

were together. Without that we would not be here today. It is just as

well you are 12 or 13, can you imagine us in it now? We never would

have got in it. This is where dad carved the messages with his knife.

Can you imagine what he was thinking? Only a man considering his

own mortality. That was carved for somebody to find. People's eyes

would scan it quickly but for us every detail tells a story. That is

the log book your dad kept. Playing 20 questions and games of I Spy. All

we could do our words beginning with S! Sunshine, C, stars. We thought we

were going to be eaten alive but we were not. Such an incredible story.

Amazing. That's all we've got Tom Ford tonight, Mind Over Marathon

starts nine o'clock Thursday on BBC One. We will be back tomorrow with

Dennis Quaid and James Norton, but good luck. APPLAUSE

It's time to clock in... Whoooa!