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# Oh, tell me the odds on you # Just so you could cut me lose

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# Do everything I've lost on you # Is that lost on you... #

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APPLAUSE Every so often a song comes along

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that just gets into your head and this one has been climbing

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the charts all over the world. It's called Lost on You and

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the singer, LP, will give us If you want heroics - we've got

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a show full of them tonight. EastEnders Adam Woodyatt -

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aka Ian Beale - will be here with his son Sam to tell us

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about the real-life drama which has led them both to take

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on the challenge of their lives. We'll also catch up with the heroic

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efforts of kayaking couple Steve Backshall and Helen Glover

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on their 125 mile race. As for our first two guests,

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one has played the all-American And the other, well,

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he's a bit more British. # What a man, man, man

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# What a mighty good man... # There's been a hanging. Hold on!

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Over confident, aren't we? # What a man, what a mighty good

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man... # Two peas in a pod.

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Please welcome Dennis Quaid and James Norton.

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That was action. So British, cricket, tea and bikes. I know,

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opposite sides of the spectrum. You have taken on each other's accents

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as well? At times, I guess. I'm sure you do a better American accent. I'm

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not going to try. We have it on good authority you used to use a British

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accent? When I was 15, door-to-door, I sold brushes, I was a brush

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company salesman. I got tired of people shutting the door on me. What

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I would do, I took on an English accent. It was really Van Dyke in

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Mary Poppins - hello, would you like to buy a brush! We have some here.

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Were you a grout cleaner as well? Yes. Tile and grout cleaner. I have

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a full array of products. For the tile and grout and whatever you need

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a brush for, Fuller has it! Right! The English accent, it was bad, it

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would keep them at the door. Right. They would even call their entire

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family in to hear it. That is how I started acting. There you go. Have

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you used that accent since? No! We will leave it there for now.

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No-one likes a bully and when that bullying hides

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anonymously behind a computer, it can feel all the more menacing.

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With increasing calls for social media sites to protect their users,

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Lucy Siegle has been to meet both victims and the big three

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Becoming the target of abuse and harassment online can have a

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dramatic impact on someone's life. I felt so violated and under attack.

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It was floods of racist, sexist abuse. Should three of the major

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players in the industry, Google, Facebook and Twitter, be doing more

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to protect their users? I'm here to meet a man whose 16-year-old

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daughter suffered so badly at the hands of internet trolls she paid

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the ultimate price. She was a vibrant, articulate, goofy,

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beautiful young woman. When Adrian Derbyshire's daughter Julia told her

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friends about her sexuality she started receiving a series of

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abusive messages on social media from strangers. Saying, "you're

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going to burn in hell because this is against the Bible. This is

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against what God wants and God hates you." They used their social media

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platform, which is the easiest form of bullying now, it's instant. The

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abuse had such a devastating effect that in October 2015 she attempted

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to take her on life. She died five days later in hospital. Adrian

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believes social media companies need to take more responsibility and take

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action the moment any abuse starts. Let us talk about this, a multi

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pound industry here. They can create this phenomenal website that has

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changed lives forever, it's positive and negative, but can't stop hate.

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That's just ridiculous. Forlan East London councillor, Shayee it's not

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about the companies being proactive they are not being reactive enough

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either. She was sunted to vile abuse last year after a video of one of

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her speeches was posted on the other hand Facebook and shared on Twitter.

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There was floods of racist, sexist abuse calling me the N-word and the

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B words. References to being linched and that's when I thought - OK, I

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don't feel safe. I feel I need to report this. Without a phone number

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to call it took Twitter and YouTube, owned by Google, more than three

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days to remove the comments and that no-one was punished or prosecuted

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for posting the remarks. After a while it was like - is there a point

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of me doing this? I stopped. I didn't get acknowledgment. People

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think this computer or tablet screen protects them from the consequences

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they would face if they said that on the streets. Adrian agrees. He

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believes there is far too much opportunity for people to hide

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behind anonious accounts. They are allowing people to kret as many pro

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files as possible and without any idea, without any information from

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that person. I think you must have to prove your age, your ID, for you

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to allowed to have access to an account. Also, as well, if you do

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that, then you can be accountable for what you put on because they can

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trace you. Former head teacher, Pepe Hart says getting downpours

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companies like Facebook to identify users is far from easy. In 2015 a

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private Facebook group was set up to damage her reputation. Some things

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that were said was a vile, horrid cow. I was Hitler. Some people

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wanted to punch me in the face. I wanted to find out more about the

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account, who the members of the group were. Facebook refused to take

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anything down. I felt very much as though the doors were being closed.

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Facebook eventually told her they would provide the details of her

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abuser if she got a court order. But she thinks the whole process should

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be much simpler. They provide that service, when are Facebook going to

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say - we do think we need to take more responsibility? All three

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companies have said they are improving their platforms to make

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them safer. Later in the programme I will meet with Facebook, Google and

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Twitter to find out what they have to say about the criticism they're

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receiving. Thank you to the people who shared their stories.

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Stay tuned to see what happens when Lucy knocks on the doors of the big

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We want to hear from you, where do you think responsibility

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lies in ending online abuse and what can be done?

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Maybe you have done bullying yourself and you may have ideas on

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how it could be stopped. What are your experiences with this. You have

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young children. I grew up old school back in the day when you meet

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outside the bar after school. There was bullying, got shoved around. I

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was concerned about my kids, especially these days. My son is 24.

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It was just starting I think back in the 90s when everything went online.

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My twins are 10 and younger and younger they come online and social

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media is part of what they learn. It can be hazardous out there. For

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sure. There is haters. The bullying comes out of insecurity from people

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it can be anonymous or it can just be, you know, the social circle of

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school where it's, they go to school and they have to face it there. Then

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they have to face it. You can't escape. It feels ever present. Like

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the whole world knows. It's an interesting debate and where the

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responsibility lies. We will see where we get to later in the

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programme about that. Grantchester, third series. Dennis anyway not be

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aware of the series. Set it up. You are an fan, right? A fan. No. So

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it's a show about a young vicar who finds himself in a beautiful village

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called Grantchester, a real place. He finds his life a little bit slow

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and, perhaps, in need of a bit of speed and excitement he solves

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crimes and makes an unlikely friendship with a policeman called

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Geordie played by the wonderful Robson Green. They embark on

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adventures together accompanied by the wonderful Dickens. There is lots

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of romantic entanglements. Now, you are going to watch it. There you go.

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You sold it. A Catholic priest? No, no. OK. There is a chance! I have to

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say... Robson Green, he wore your spacesuit from the Right Stuff in a

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film he did, called Rocket Man. It's one of his favourite anecdotes. He

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wanted me to tell you. He is in next week. I can track that thing down.

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He is coming in next week. He didn't want to be on the same show as you!

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We last saw your character Sidney in the Christmas special. As far as

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this series is concerned, are we picking up off the back of the

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Christmas special? Definitely is. A murder mystery a week. They are over

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acig narratives insist. Four months on from the end of the Christmas

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special. We find Sidney and Amanda is the first time in their lives

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they are able to be in love and enjoy it. They are in denial a

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little bit. The music has moved on from jazz into rock-and-roll. They

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are partying a bit more. They are living in denial. They are having a

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lot of fun, but they are aware that they are star crossed because they

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can't be together, as we know. They have to make a choice. They do.

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Dennis, would you like to see James in action? I'm definitely going to

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see it now. Let's have a look. Here's James or Sidney having a

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reality check. If I know what's going on with your and Mrs Hopkins

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then others know. There is nothing going on. Don't think I've ever seen

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you happier. Little miss here, I suppose we all are. But how long do

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you think it can last? With your job and her down the road? You can't be

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a vicar and be with her. You can't marry a divorced woman. That's the

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truth of it. Sooner or later, you'll have to make a choice.

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APPLAUSE Wow. Will he chose the woman he

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loves or his faith? Love versuses duty. Who can say? In the 50s a

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vicar wasn't allowed to marry a divorcee. If she is going to

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separate from her previous marriage she becomes unavailable to him. The

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writing is so good. We are blessed with great writers who write these

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uneasy ethical dilemmas. No-one knows which he can choose. The Best

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Dramas are impossible choices. The grey area in between. It's cool. He

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has the choices or the romance with Amanda. James has a romance as well

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acid any on set. Yourself and Robson are quite tight. He almost killed

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you this time? He almost killed me. On set. We have a couple of stunts.

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He pushed - he, was throwing water at me and I fell backwards into a

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river and the whole crew saw me disappear under water. The

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producers, yeah, there was a gasp of fear. Robson - thought you had been

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swept away. Was that part of the plan? No. There was quite a lot

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of... We do have quite a lot of fun. He has this... We basically, now in

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the third series, we commit to our work and are very focused, sometimes

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our executive producer is here today. Be careful! There is a great

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thing about the show - Here's your co-star. Forget about Robson. Here

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is Dickens. Hello. Wonderful. We opened the door and he ran.

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You have helped rear him because he was a little pup? He was tiny. In

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the show he is called Dickens and a real life he is called Dickens. Very

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chilled! Do you have to bribe him on set or is he quite well-behaved? He

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is pretty good. Sometimes we have to put a little sausage in our pocket.

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Aye a little false edge in the pocket once in awhile! Apparently

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you have bacon in your film? Dickens will know there are quite a lot of

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residents of Grantchester. Come over here, there's a good boy, come over

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here. We have a very special new resident here in the shape of

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Rachel. Rachel, give us an idea of what your new role will be if we

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can't guess from what you are wearing? From July the six I will be

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Vicar of Grantchester and also new known in Cambridge. I will be the

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real Vicar of Grantchester as people keep telling me. At the moment there

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is no Vicar so will you be moving into the vicarage? Yes, into the

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church, it is a very nice vicarage to move into. We have some residents

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of Grantchester here. What is it like compared with what we see on

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the TV? We have fewer murders! Usually! We are hoping for a more

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stable Vicar when she arrives. Grantchester is a sort of suburb of

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Cambridge in lots of ways but it is a couple of miles away so it is

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still quite rural and we have a very nice mixed economy there. We have

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four pubs. And you have all these screenings and all sorts. We do. It

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is huge fun. We are thrilled to be extras on the set as well and we get

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to meet James and Robson and have cricket matches and rounders

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matches, and the occasional pint and ice cream. What did you say about

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James' attire? I said he wears the most wonderful cashmere jumpers that

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I have ever come across! He is not wearing one today, unfortunately.

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Big jump fans over here, James! -- jumper fans.

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It's great to have Dickens here, he'll love this next film.

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After all, his new film is called, A Dog's Purpose.

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Marty has found one canine who seems to have found his true calling.

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Three years ago, fire tore through the iconic Glasgow School of Art. In

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just a few hours, this architectural gem was devastated. After the flames

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were put out, a new problem began. All the water used to put out the

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fire created the perfect moist conditions for a fungus to start

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growing in the building. The fungus feeds on the ward and causes what we

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call dry rot. What is an invisible menace in many old buildings, and if

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it is left unchecked it will do this too would. So it is vital that it is

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sniffed out before it has a chance to take old. Fortunately, the

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restoration team have the perfect weapon on hand to stop the rot. This

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is Sam, a 12-year-old Labrador, with a nose for the job. Known as a rot

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hound, Sam has been trained to recognise the aroma of fungus in the

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air, and locate where the rot is in a building. His owner is building

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surveyor Peter Monaghan from Cumbria who has a passion for training dogs.

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He found Sam in a rescue centre where he had been abandoned by his

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former owners. I went to see him, very boisterous, very bouncy dog,

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just the sort of dog I like. Not a particularly good pet. My wife still

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cannot control him! But Peter thought Sam's natural energy could

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be harnessed to tirelessly search historic buildings. And after almost

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two men three years of training, Sam was ready for work. Labradors have

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particularly unsuited noses. Sam is able to detect the smell of just a

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few molecules of dry rot in the air and then hone in on their source.

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Senior Project manager Liz Davidson knows the value of Sam's skills.

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Three years ago he detected the start of dry rot in the school of

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art on this is spot. How damaging is dry rot? Dry rot can do more damage

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than fire. It can keep on travelling. It can go through walls

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and pick up the wood on the other side. You are trying to track this

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invisible enemy the whole time. Sam was probably one of the most

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important because he came in very early and was able to find things in

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the building we did not know where a problem. Sam has returned to the

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room where he first detected rot. If he finds it again this time, it will

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be a headache for this and her team. But fortunately, Sam does not sniff

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out any rot Corona top thanks to his and Peter's efforts, the building is

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given a clean bill of health. Whether they find dry rot or not,

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Peter needs to keep Sam's skills sharp, so we have laid on a test. I

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have got here some dry rot infested wood, and I have put it in this

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little container, and then hide it in the corner and see if he can find

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it. Come on, Sam, off we go. Sam gives us the ability to search a

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large building. Sometimes you can't even see it, it is behind panelling

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or it is behind other materials. When searching for dry rot, Peter

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works Sam around the room, sniffing for a scent trail. It is a team

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effort between the dog and the handler. The handler have to

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interpret what the dog is showing the handler. The dogs are about 98%

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accurate. It takes Sam just a few minutes to hunt down the rot. Wow,

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that is pretty impressive. Well done, Sam, that is amazing! Sam is

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trained to know he will receive a reward for all his efforts. For him,

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that is time alone with his favourite toy, one of Peter's old

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gloves. Dennis is still doing the accent! You cannot beat that kind of

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job for me. That is the camaraderie and the wonderful relationship you

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have. This leads us on to your new film, A Dog's Purpose. It is about a

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dog's spirit. I say it is like Old Yellow but without the tragic

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ending. Dogs, as it turns out in this film, are reincarnated. They

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remember their past lives and in the beginning, me as a young boy, had

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this relationship with this dog Bailey, and then he is reborn again

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and again other dogs' bodies, different breeds and different

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people. And we meet up again later on in life and... But it is a

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beautiful movie. I hadn't read the book which is a beautiful book. My

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agent started to tell me, he got about four sentences in and I

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started to well up. I said, I will do it. Is that because it brought

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back memories for you growing up with a dog? I had the classic boy,

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dog relationship. Everybody has that. It is about unconditional

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love. What they give us and what we give them. Let's have a look at even

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after he has been reunited with his old dog Bailey but he does not know

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it is him yet. I'm going to make a bet that you are hungry. You must

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be! Nobody likes my cooking. Don't look at me like that. You

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can't stay here. You have got to go home, you belong to somebody. Home,

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yes, yes, I am home. Dumb dog. You just want that clip to be longer! As

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you can see, dogs also have a voice over going on in their head all the

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time! They understand English but they do not have vocal chords! You

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cannot help it. You laugh the next second, it is really funny. We talk

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about romantic comedies and it is a kind of romance of sorts. Of course

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it is, it is unconditional love. We were laughing only about the sausage

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on the bacon but it must be a reality, did you have meat and bacon

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or the time? You walk in, I was working with that dogs there and it

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is like, you don't just walk into a relationship, you have to get to

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know each other and stuff. So you kind of speed it up with what they

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like, you have a little bit of bacon in your bag and you rub it around

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like that, like Cologne! Raw bacon or cooked? Doesn't matter! You have

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got to keep trying. I am just imagining. When you're not on the

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film set, are you in any way like Samuel L Jackson. He was sacked

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where you are a month ago and he says he has a golf tour is written

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into his contract. Without blowing smoke, you are a very good golfer.

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Identified to put it in my contract but I seek it out. If you are on the

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road, like a musician or an actor, you have to keep your head on

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straight. Golf is everywhere, especially over here, it is great.

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Do you play over here? Have you edged out some time? This time I

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didn't but I only play once the day! And James, flat line is, you have

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just finished filming, a big Hollywood blockbuster, does that

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feel like a gear change -- Flatliners. I have played a lot of

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golf. It was fun, my first big movie. A car pulled up on Michael

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Douglas and two executives got out suited and with sunglasses. I

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thought, my goodness, I am in a movie. You have got all the toys and

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there is a certain amount of support behind you with the money and the

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expertise, it is a different world. It was fun. Enjoying dipping in and

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out? I hope I will dip in and out. We hope we won't lose you! Of course

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not. We've been inspired by your film

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Dennis and the idea of reincarnation and we're going to play a little

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game called, Cast From The Past. We're going to show you a real

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person from history and we want to know which well known celebrity

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we think they look like. We are going to start off with

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number one. This is Nicolae Grigorescu, the 19th century painter

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from Romania. Who do you think that looks like? Without the moustache,

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I'm just trying to map paddle boarding, think paddle boarding. He

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is on the One Show next week. Orlando Bloom? It is a Orlando

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Bloom! Next we have is or Neil Hurston. She is an American author.

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I love this music! You go for this one. She is an American actor. It is

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not going to happen, is it? It is Queen Latifah. There we go, look at

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the likeness. Good luck with this one, everyone. Who is this? Is that

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Bob Hope? It looks like Bob Hope for me. School of Rock. Jack Black. We

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will only do a few more, don't worry. Millard Fillmore, the 30th

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president of the United States. I want to say Donald Trump. He has

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been playing a lot of Donald Trump recently, Alec Baldwin! I think we

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should go straight on to number six here. We are going for Pope Gregory

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the Knights, a 500-year-old painting by Rafael in the Vatican. Dennis

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Quaid. Had you already said it?! Well done!

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Now, James here didn't always want to be an actor.

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His first choice of career, when he was a little boy,

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So here's a film to appeal to the five-year-old James

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and anyone who wants a smoother journey.

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Helen has been to see the future of rail travel.

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The great engineer Brunel once said, "the time is not far off when we

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should be able to take our coffee and write while going noiselessly

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and smoothly." We are still not quite there. We can get a coffee,

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but we can't guarantee a quiet and smooth I ride, but we could be

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close. Although bumpy journeys and noisy trains may be annoying

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passengers across the country, at this depot, just outside Bristol,

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new trains, built by Hitachi Rail, here in the UK, are being prepared

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for use on the Great Western and Require yen East Coast Main Line.

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You are building lots more in the UK? We are. We are building 122

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trains. That has given employment as well to the region? 900 jobs.

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Purpose-built plant for the provision of new trains into the UK.

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When as a passenger am I likely to see trains like this pulling up on

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to the platform? You will see the first inter-city units in service in

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October. These trains are packed full of the latest technology to

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make journeys smoother and more comfortable for passengers. Could

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they finally make Brunel's prediction come true? Once the line

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is fully electrified it will shave significant time off the journey.

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There are three engines spread along the train as opposed to one large

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engine. The acceleration is quicker. They can run on diesel and electric.

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It means we can get our trains out into the public a lot quicker and

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eventually it will run on electric so it will be greener and cleaner.

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Who is picking up the tab for this? It's point of the o ?5.7 billion

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Government-funded ed programme. This power system allows the trains to

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run on track that isn't Lek arified. A first for UK passenger trains.

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What are the company doing to enhance the interior experience? A

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lot of people this is their office when they are on a train journey?

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Yes, it is. More seats. That is the biggest problem on the trains. Each

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seat as a plug socket and a reservation panel. Some will recline

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back. A lot more luggage space. The new trains will provide a

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comfortable experience on the inside, but what tricks are these

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hi-tech trains going to use to ensure a smooth ride? These lasers

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will measure the profile of the wheel. They will also measure the

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break pads within a millimetre. Adding to the smoothness of the run

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of the train. It will pick up defects on the trains. My could

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coffee cup won't wobble. The company has high hopes you will see the

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difference, but hopefully the only worry will be how we take our

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coffee. The first trains will start

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appearing in October of this year. That answers your questions. There

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you are. Yeah. 50,000 runners will be taking

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on the London Marathon this Sunday. Sorry if that sends shivers down

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your spine if you are watching this. Adam Woodyatt and his son Sam,

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who join us now. Are you nervous? A little bit. I'm

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looking forward to. It I'm glad all the training is out of the way! The

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marathon I think is going to be a really enjoyable experience. The

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training has been a pain. When did you start? February. Did you? I had

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to leave it late because of work. Sam, it's quite remarkable that you

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are doing this. I don't know who knows out there. Seven months ago

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you were involved in quite a serious road traffic incident. Give us an

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idea of the injuries you sustained? So I was placed in an induced coma

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for I think two or three days. Then I had a five hour operation to, kind

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of, piece my pelvis together. There is a lot of metal in me now. I had

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minor lacerations on my arm and neck.

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You might be able to see the scars. Quite minor brain injury so my

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intole is a bit foggy. Amnesia. We couldn't tell a difference! I don't

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remember the night or anything. That's more or less it. That's the

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worst nightmare for any parent. How did you feel when you got that knock

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at the That knock-on the door. Door is horrendous. The worst thing you

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ever want. Fortunately, he's all right. Thanks to the emergency

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services. I have to say, the London air ambulance their rapid response

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vehicle came out to Sam. They were there within three minutes. They are

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brilliant. You just hope that you never need them, but when you do,

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unbelievable. That's really the sense that you are, the memories,

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what you will run with at the weekend? Yeah. It's, we started

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planning to do it before his accident, but obviously since the

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accident it's made it even stronger the reasons for wanting to do it for

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the air ambulance because a lot of people don't realise. They are not

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funded. All the donations have to come from the public. It doesn't

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come from Government or anything like that. It's vital. Not just in

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London, but all over the country. Across the country. Running for two

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very good causes. Sam, from a training perspective, how have your

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injuries affect that? I was going to say I started training really late.

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I told them that. I didn't know he started training in February. I

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started training in January when I could walk again. He's still

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quicker! When I started training I had to go slower. I couldn't run.

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Can you go a bit slower on Sunday? Will you run together? No,

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problemibly not. He'll be gone. Bye Have you started on carbon loading?

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No. I've been on a diet. He has been a no rb diet. I told him he needs to

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do carb loading. Have pasta on the way home. You did a marathon. I ran

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the LA marathon. 92. After mile 20, it's, the gas tank is low. What is

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the longest run you have done so far? 18 miles. 15. I have to say 18.

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You'll make it. I was quite happy. I was happy with how it had gone. The

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pace was slow. The cameras will follow you all the way round. Don't.

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Bring snacks. You brought bacon snacks all around the marathon.

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Drink and eat. I'm going past a pub, I will try not to stop. The bacon

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snacks, where would I get them? Mill pet store! We wish you all the very

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best. Of course, to each and every one of the 50,000 runners that will

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take part this weekend. Good luck. All the best and safe and happy

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rung. We saw earlier the traumatic effect

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that online bullies and trolls can So how seriously do the social

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networks take the issue and what can Facebook, Google, who owns YouTube

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and Twitter, have been criticised for not reacting quickly enough to

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internet trolls. Why aren't they doing better? None of the companies

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gives users the opportunity to call and speak to someone directly to

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report abuse. Katie O'Donovan is in charge of policy at Google's UK

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office here in London. People have told us what they want is to be able

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to pick up the phone and say, it's an emergency situation, they want an

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emergency response. Why is that not an option? We get hundreds of

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thousands of flags a day using an online system is the most effective

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way of doing that. 98% of our flags are done within 24-hours. Many wins

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minutes and hours. If somebody close to you was experiencing these

:38:30.:38:33.

threats would you have a different response I absolutely understand how

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hurtful this can be. It's a horrible situation and we work very, very

:38:37.:38:40.

hard to prevent that happening. At Twitter's European headquarters in

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Dublin the person in charge of policy is Sinead McSweeney.

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She tells me Twitter is experimenting with a direct

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messaging service. It's taken a while for Twitter to tackle this

:38:54.:38:57.

problem? It's a big priority within the company. We are now dealing with

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updates on abuse in days and hours rather than every few months. By far

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the biggest social media platform in the world is Facebook. Currently, it

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takes up to 48-hours to react to reports of abuse. Head of safety,

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Julie, wants to improve on that. Where we have maybe some work to do

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still is on things that might be more hidden. Maybe repeated abuse in

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different ways. If it's bullying, it's bullying. Whether it's mildly

:39:29.:39:32.

bullying or incredibly bullying. It's upsetting for people. We

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understand how important it is for for us to look at it and remove it

:39:36.:39:39.

so that it doesn't get seen by more people. Responding to reports of

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abuse is one thing, but shouldn't they all be doing more to monitor

:39:44.:39:48.

their platforms and identify the abuse the moment it starts? What

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people have difficulty understanding is how such clever organisations

:39:54.:39:56.

can't do that more effectively? What we do is we make sure we know who is

:39:57.:40:00.

making the comments or uploading hateful content. If it violates our

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terms and conditions we will ban that person. We will monitor them to

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make sure that they do not try to reupload or make hateful comments in

:40:10.:40:14.

the future. Google also say it is's trialling new technology to spot

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abuse as soon as it's posted. For Facebook and Twitter while they will

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look at the development of technology it's not quite so simple.

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Context changes everything. You could have ten people sharing

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the same photo, but the caption is completely different, the comments

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are very different, the intent is different. . No machine could make a

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decision on what they think is bullying or not. When you put up an

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obstacle in one place people will figure out another way to hurt

:40:40.:40:42.

people. I think that's why it's important that we address this from

:40:43.:40:48.

a wider perspective. That we give people the skills to deal with what

:40:49.:40:57.

they encounter online. From the beginning social media has been an

:40:58.:41:00.

open and free platform all. What about the abusers who hide behind

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anonymous accounts. Isn't anonymity one of the central issues? I don't

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believe it is. Anonymity in and of itself isn't the sole driver here.

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There are plenty of cases where actually anonymity is important to

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the power of the platform. Why are you so reluctant to address that

:41:18.:41:20.

issue? What we have done is address it is from the other side. If you

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are on Twitter you can chose to never see content from someone who

:41:27.:41:30.

has chosen not to verify their account with their email address or

:41:31.:41:37.

phone number. It's difficult to prove identity online and improve

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active dialogue. Dialogue.. Want YouTube o to be an open community

:41:41.:41:45.

but strict guidelines in force snoochl we are mindful of balls

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balancing safety measures and maintaining privacy of people's data

:41:50.:41:52.

and not asking too much information. Why not make it a requirement of

:41:53.:41:55.

opening a Facebook account, what is the problem? It's not what we have

:41:56.:41:59.

in place at the moment. I'm not ruling it out in the future. It's

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invasive to provide an ID to Facebook is not a routine process.

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All three companies insist it's in their best interest to stamp out the

:42:09.:42:12.

abuse. We will never be static about it and will review it to make sure

:42:13.:42:16.

we are meeting the NEETs needs of our community and how it can remain

:42:17.:42:22.

an open open platform with no room for Haysful content. We have a

:42:23.:42:25.

responsibility to ensure we are doing everything we can to make sure

:42:26.:42:28.

people are safe and people feel safe. We need to have a conversation

:42:29.:42:32.

around responsible sharing. So that people understand how do they

:42:33.:42:35.

control the content that they are seeing and the content that they are

:42:36.:42:41.

sharing. Lucy joins us now. We will get to what our viewers have been

:42:42.:42:52.

saying later on. They have broadly saided that they are pleased that

:42:53.:42:56.

the social media companies are taking online abuse really

:42:57.:42:59.

seriously. However there are some caveats. They were disappointed that

:43:00.:43:04.

there wasn't provision to stop anonymous accounts. I think Dennis

:43:05.:43:07.

referenced that before. That they aren't doing more to deal with

:43:08.:43:12.

reports more quickly and Adrian made the point as well that the companies

:43:13.:43:16.

say they want to give people the skills to deal with this and educate

:43:17.:43:20.

us users, but how exactly is that going to work? How practically is

:43:21.:43:23.

that going to work? He didn't feel they answered that at all. In terms

:43:24.:43:29.

of, you know, legislation, what are campaigners and politicians and

:43:30.:43:31.

police calling for? Well, I think one of the things that they are

:43:32.:43:36.

calling for. There is an acceptance that social media platforms are very

:43:37.:43:40.

important to lots of people there are millions of positive

:43:41.:43:43.

interactions. However, you keep hearing from the companies this

:43:44.:43:48.

phrase "shared responsibility." We have to bear in mind that the legal

:43:49.:43:51.

framework is rather behind the curve. In the UK alone we have 30

:43:52.:43:56.

different bits of legislation which you could use to prosecute some of

:43:57.:43:59.

this if you can work out whether or not it's a crime. It's very

:44:00.:44:03.

complicated. In the ether with we have a few things that may happen

:44:04.:44:06.

which would consolidate. One of the things we have got is a malicious

:44:07.:44:10.

communication or social media bill due for its second reading in the

:44:11.:44:14.

House of Commons early next month. That would put the responsibility

:44:15.:44:17.

squarely on the shoulders of the social media companies. For example,

:44:18.:44:22.

they could be fined up to ?2 million if they failed to police abuse

:44:23.:44:28.

adequately. We have the Culture Secretary, Karren Bradley, leading

:44:29.:44:30.

the new internet safety strategy. That aims to make the UK the safest

:44:31.:44:35.

place in the world for online for young people and children.

:44:36.:44:40.

I think it's clear that something has to be done. What have our

:44:41.:44:47.

viewers being day in? They would agree with you. David says these

:44:48.:44:53.

organisations aiding and abetting abuse should be prosecuted. Abigail

:44:54.:44:58.

says you can report posts as spam or having nudity, why can't you report

:44:59.:45:02.

something as bullying? Peter says he refuses to be part of it while they

:45:03.:45:08.

allow abuse to continue. And another person says shouldn't we be treating

:45:09.:45:11.

our years of the way we would like to be treated? The companies say it

:45:12.:45:17.

is about shared responsibility. So what is happening at home and

:45:18.:45:24.

online? Indeed. We think of social media of connecting people but there

:45:25.:45:28.

is also a massive sense of isolation and if someone is suffering from

:45:29.:45:33.

bullying or online abuse, what can they do? The first thing is to

:45:34.:45:37.

document the evidence and take screen grabs. It is difficult that

:45:38.:45:41.

you have to ignore it, you have to detach from it to some degree. Think

:45:42.:45:45.

carefully about what you post but also what you share. Check your

:45:46.:45:50.

privacy settings and also use the platform systems to report abuse and

:45:51.:45:55.

above all, don't suffer in silence. There are organisations that are

:45:56.:45:58.

trained to deal with this and what you're going through so please get

:45:59.:46:00.

in contact. More information on how to deal

:46:01.:46:02.

with online abuse Now Dennis, you're about to start

:46:03.:46:05.

filming series three of the hit We've got a little clip that

:46:06.:46:11.

sums up your character, You want milk? What? With your

:46:12.:46:25.

Americano? You don't put milk in an Americano. It's the only one you

:46:26.:46:32.

don't put milk in, that is why they call it an Americano. Not a lot

:46:33.:46:37.

they, for example, or a cappuccino. You are the guy that killed the

:46:38.:46:45.

bear. So? Coffee expert as well. You're welcome. An Americano with

:46:46.:46:51.

milk. APPLAUSE

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So, Dennis, you are a fisherman in a sci-fi? I am an expat American. I

:46:59.:47:05.

tried my digs and I accent! They said we will make you an expat. But

:47:06.:47:11.

I love the show, and of the story and the weight is unfolding. Nobody

:47:12.:47:16.

knows where it is going. With the series who do take off like that,

:47:17.:47:19.

you don't know how long it will run for. They say, get the writers in,

:47:20.:47:25.

we need another series! It is written basically by one guy. It is

:47:26.:47:31.

in his head. He doesn't even know! Everything is based on what could

:47:32.:47:36.

happen. Everything is based on science or stop he just makes it up

:47:37.:47:41.

off the top of his head. Meanwhile, you are off filming the BBC thriller

:47:42.:47:49.

McMafia. Have you been unleashing your in a Godfather? Yes. I am a

:47:50.:47:55.

Russian hedge fund manager. The character is immersed in the modern

:47:56.:47:59.

day Mafia, which is quite exciting. There you go. Do you speak any

:48:00.:48:07.

Russian? I am speaking a Russian who has been brought up in the UK so I

:48:08.:48:11.

speak with an English accent but I also speak some Russian. Matt was

:48:12.:48:23.

speaking Russian earlier on! HE SPEAKS RUSSIAN. It means hurry up,

:48:24.:48:31.

get on with it! Music is a big part of your life. Is it right you will

:48:32.:48:39.

go on tour with ZZ Top? Yes, we will do a Texas tour with ZZ Top in

:48:40.:48:44.

little towns around Texas. What is the vibe of the band? What do you

:48:45.:48:52.

play? Dirty rock and roll. Dirty rock and roll! We are a junkyard of

:48:53.:48:57.

American music. Stuff we grew up loving and one of them was ZZ Top

:48:58.:49:01.

for sure and it is great to be with them. James, you have managed to

:49:02.:49:06.

squeeze your parents in as extras in most of the things you have done.

:49:07.:49:10.

Did you bring them to Russia? So less cool. There is your dad! My mum

:49:11.:49:19.

and dad are back. My mum made me promise not to mention that she's in

:49:20.:49:25.

the new series of Grantchester. So dad got War And Peace? Dad is in

:49:26.:49:30.

everything. He has got his own agent now. They are both in the episode.

:49:31.:49:36.

We are sorry you did not bring them tonight. Next time!

:49:37.:49:40.

This time last week we were joined by golden couple

:49:41.:49:42.

Steve Backshall and Helen Glover who were celebrating their first

:49:43.:49:45.

Easter as a married couple rowing 125 miles in a kayak.

:49:46.:49:54.

They were going from Devizes to Westminster. They were hoping to do

:49:55.:50:02.

it in 24 hours. From the start it looked like they may be up the creek

:50:03.:50:10.

without a paddle. After six weeks of intensive training, race day has

:50:11.:50:14.

arrived and the nerves are kicking in. I did not sleep for a while last

:50:15.:50:20.

night which is not a good thing. No turning back now. The enormity of

:50:21.:50:26.

what we are doing is hitting home. Sir Steve Redgrave, the greatest

:50:27.:50:30.

Olympian we have ever had, has tried and not succeeded. That makes you

:50:31.:50:35.

think. The 125 mile nonstop Devizes to

:50:36.:50:38.

Westminster race is considered to be the canoeists Everest with 126 pairs

:50:39.:50:46.

aiming to finish in 24 hours. Each team chooses their own start time.

:50:47.:50:51.

It is 10:15am and we are off! Thank you all very much! What have we let

:50:52.:50:59.

ourselves in for? Anyone know which way London is? The first 52 miles

:51:00.:51:05.

along the Kennet and Avon Canal. Then we hit the River Thames at

:51:06.:51:11.

Reading in Berkshire. It is a very, very long wait, isn't it? One and a

:51:12.:51:22.

half miles in! Only 123 and a half to go! There are plenty of obstacles

:51:23.:51:27.

to navigate. But some are friendlier than others. Take it easy there,

:51:28.:51:35.

Fowler. Did he just peck the back of our boat?! We will paddle over

:51:36.:51:43.

135,000 strokes during the race and it is my job to set the pace. At the

:51:44.:51:49.

moment we are feeling strong and slightly ahead of schedule so I

:51:50.:51:54.

don't want to stop for anything. Annoyingly, I need a PE already. If

:51:55.:52:01.

you want to go, go in the boat. I do not want to go in the boat! It is

:52:02.:52:07.

not just kayaking we have to contend with. There are 77 locks where we

:52:08.:52:12.

have to grab the boat and run. It feels good to be out of the boat.

:52:13.:52:18.

Imagine, you run a marathon with a boat on your shoulders.

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This is also when our heroic support team

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feed us and give us water. Every hour we burn around 100 calories so

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we need to eat on the go. Am I facing the right way? But after only

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30 locks and four hours in, we have a problem. Are you OK? Somehow I

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have splintered the back of the boat and the cockpit is coming off in my

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hand. The constant running has smashed our boat. We will have to

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paddle while it is stuck together with heavy duty tape. We still have

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20 hours to go with a broken boat. It has completely split across from

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one side to the other and then all the way back to the stern and my

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cockpit is merely. As the day ends after 51 miles of relentless

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paddling, we take our only proper stop of the race. The stopwatch is

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as we take up our inking boat. Steve's parents have been waiting

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for us to arrive. His dad kicks up -- cooks up a storm and his mum

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feeds us at top speed. I never thought my mother-in-law would be

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force-feeding me sausage rolls! As the sun sets, we take off our wet

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kit and prepare for the long night ahead.

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Once it gets dark, it will be really, really cold. But we are not

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even halfway and as the dreaded night paddle looms ahead of us, deep

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fatigue suddenly overwhelms me. I don't know why I am getting

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emotional. I think now we have stopped I realise how tired I am. I

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think maybe I just need to keep going. Thanks, guys, that was

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amazing. Well done, everyone. Night time is when most crews give up due

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to exhaustion. The next hours will test us to the limit. Mentally and

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physically tough. Injuries kick in. It will hurt in my back on my

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forearm. A quarter of the crews will not make it through the long night.

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Whether we do is anyone's gas. Steve Van Hammer and will be joining

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us tomorrow when we were -- Steve and Helena will be joining us

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tomorrow when we will see the final part of their epic journey.

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LP is with us. You have written songs for Rihanna, the Backstreet

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Boys, Christina Aguilera and Cher. It is definitely a dream country. It

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is nice to connect with people on a song. It meant a lot to me. While

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you were writing this, did you know it was a corker and radio to some of

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the week? No, I was discussing a thick skin and it is part of how you

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get through stuff. You cannot go, this is the one! I used to go, this

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is the one! This is the one, this is the one. The

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next one is always the one. So a European tour with a UK date?

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Yes, we are playing cocoa on the 24th. Brilliant, we will let you get

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ready. I big thank you to our guests come Quaid! And also James Norton.

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Tomorrow, we are joined by the Star Wars actor John Boyega. Now with the

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title single of her album Lost On You, it is LP! Get toe-tapping.

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APPLAUSE # Burning like embers,

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falling, tender # Longing for the days

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of no surrender # Wishin' I could see

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the machinations # Understand the toil

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of expectations # Hold me like you never

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lost your patience # Tell me that you love

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me more than hate me # Just that

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you could cut me loose Hello, I'm Sarah Campbell

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with your 90 second update. MPs have overwhelmingly backed

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the Prime Minister's call for a general election

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on June the 8th. More than 520 voted in favour

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with only 13 against.

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