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Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.

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Tonight we're meeting the descendants of two sets of 11

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There they are, they are in the studio now. As rowdy as you would

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expect. And we'll find out what happened

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when we reignited the rivalry We'll do that in the company

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of a writer and actress who is responsible for inventing

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so many catchphrases and expressions, she's almost

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created a new language. Knock me sideways on a seesaw! I

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walked in the name of the money Street -- Manic Street Preachers, do

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you know what we are creating? I feel very much at home now because

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Bobby in Stella is played by Alan, who was my neighbour for a long

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time. This wonderful phrase of, what in the name of. Tel us the story. It

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started in series four when one of the other writers had one of the

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lines, what in the name of, and I thought that is so funny, so we

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expanded it. We were writing the Christmas special one day, I was in

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a cafe and I saw Michael Ball. I thought that would be good, what in

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the name of Michael Ball do you think you are doing. Then we had

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Manic Street Preachers and we want a Welsh related music artist. What in

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the name of Alex Jones! We will chat more about Stella in a little while.

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First, multinational companies do a roaring trade in the UK but when it

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was discovered how little corporation tax rate paid, it caused

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a huge public outcry. They argue that what they pay is fair so is it

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OK for hard-pressed small businesses to get in on the act?

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Multinational companies avoiding UK tax is one subject guaranteed a

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reaction. I just think it is not on, for goodness sake. If you earn the

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money, you should pay tax on it. Big business can afford to keep their

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tax bills as low as is legally possible. They can hire armies of

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experts to look for loopholes and exploit them, often using

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complicated offshore arrangements. That's not something that's

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available to small firms, not until now. This new BBC Two documentary

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follows one group of local traders as they explore using the same tax

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loopholes exploited big business. And this is their town in the Brecon

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Beacons in South Wales. It is fiercely independent, filled with

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local stores, some run by several generations of the same family, and

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all unique. But one thing they have in common, they all pay their taxes.

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UK corporation tax is currently 20% of profits but some multinationals

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managed to sidestep it completely by basing themselves offshore. This

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cafe owner, Steve Lewis, is not impressed. My taxation every year is

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in the 60,000 - 70,000 bracket, and there's zero, and they are turning

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over eye watering sums. The scale of what is going on is not flat. I read

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runs to micro-businesses, an ice cream parlour and the local

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optometrist. She said being able to avoid taxes gives the bigger players

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unfair advantage. They could pass their savings to consumers who

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cannot afford stuff like that, so it does seem to be unfair. When the BBC

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team suggested the traders see for themselves how the big boys do it,

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they jumped at the chance. The documentary's presenter showed them

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a tax plan would help them take their profits offshore via Holland

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and there is a name for it. It is called the Dutch sandwich. It is a

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tax loophole trick that a lot of companies use to get money out of

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the EU. We have one of the top tax lawyers telling us the system works,

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which is crazy because we did it on the back of an envelope. To make

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their sandwich, the Crickhowell traders would have to set up a Dutch

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company, moving their profit via the Dutch firm could avoid financial

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penalties the UK taxman would impose. Michael James says fighting

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the taxman to get these complex schemes approved is a costly

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business. The question is what might stop it working? Where you have got

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these innovative tax schemes, large multinational companies pursue these

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disputes right to the bitter end. The traders in Crickhowell simply

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don't have the resources to do that. So what does HMRC think of this? In

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a statement, they say they enforce tax rules fairly, irrespective of

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the size and structure of the business, and they say they will

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look at the root legality of the Crickhowell tax scheme if it is put

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to them. Will they really go offshore? It seems opinions are

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divided. We cannot do it because if we do it, who will pay for our

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roads, hospitals and schools? One of us has got to go offshore to prove

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the principle, but the pound in it to demonstrate, then say to the

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taxman I owe you ?1 and it is sitting offshore, come and get it.

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If it means taking on George Osborne in court, that's what I will do. In

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the meantime the traders hope the threat of local businesses going

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offshore will be enough to get the tax loopholes closed once and for

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all. You can see how far those traders

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were prepared to take their campaign in The Town That Took On The Taxman,

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on tomorrow night on BBC Two. Nick is here, we will have a chat in a

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while. But first Ruth, you know that area, don't you? Yes, we filmed

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there in series one of Stella, it is a beautiful part of the world. And

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nice to see such a busy high street. Nick, the Government says they will

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clamp down on big companies avoiding corporation tax, but what have they

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done about it so far? They already introduced last April diverted

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profits tax, a tax of 20% on companies who enter into contrived

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arrangements to divert profits. It is so new, they don't know how much

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money it has raised but those figures will be out later in the

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year. They are predicting it will raise ?355 million per year by 2018.

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It sounds like a big figure, but the multinational companies it is a drop

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in the ocean. This is a political sticking plaster, it is the

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Chancellor wanting to be seen to do something. It is interesting, this

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corporation tax, because if you want to boost employment you have got to

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get the company is here that will give out the jobs. The Chancellor

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wants to be seen to be pro-business, he doesn't want to be seen to be

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beating multinational companies with a big stick. He has reduced

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corporation tax from 28% to 20%, which makes the UK the lowest in the

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GE 20. He will push it down to 18% by 2020 so he is seen to be

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pro-business, but there are small businesses in the UK who say that

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they want a level playing field. If they are earning billions of pounds,

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it is a drop in the ocean to pay more tax, why can't they do that? Is

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that they are bringing investment into the country, generating jobs.

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How much do they need? Seriously. They say they are helping the

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country out. Our football teams are still here, aren't they?

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Earlier we introduced the Charlesworths and

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the Coverdales, two families whose rivalry goes back over a century.

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Here's Joe to explain how it all started and to kick it off

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At a football stadium in Hull, players are gathering for a match

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like no other. They are descended from two unusual football teams that

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once did battle on this spot more than 100 years ago, and today there

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is a score to settle. In 1914, the Charlesworth brothers placed an

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advert in the paper challenging any other family to take them on at

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football. Historian Rick Glanville uncovered their tail. It was a

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family called the Coverdales who took up the challenge just a few

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miles away. The Coverdales won 3-0. We thought a rematch was well

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overdue so we tracked down descendants of both families. Let's

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hear it for the Charlesworth team! And fresh from their last victory

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just over 100 years ago, let's hear it for the Coverdales! It seems

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football is still in the blood. Wonderful for Big Billy there! It is

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wonderful seeing these families come together again, but if we hark back

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to the original game over 100 years ago, those innocent days would not

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last long, would they? No, tragically soon after World War I

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broke out. They all volunteered, and six of those 22 men died. What must

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it have done for Mrs Charlesworth and Coverdale to go off to a

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conflict in which people have very little understanding of what it

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would entail? This is my grandfather, Frank Charlesworth, he

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was one of 11 brothers that played the famous football match. This is

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the troops lined up on Scunthorpe platform, I believe, and there is my

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grandfather standing on the edge of the platform before they were

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embarked. What a remarkable photograph. What happened to him? He

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was gassed in the war which gave him breathing problems later in life but

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he survived. What do you think your grandfather would have made of this

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game happening today? I know he would have been proud of it. I can

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still see his face quite easily. It just makes me think how fantastic it

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is to do it 100 years on. There it is, and somewhere in that celestial

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grandstand there will be two sets of 11 brothers looking down, and saying

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that 100 year wait was worth it. It was a day of joy for both families.

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Amazing! He would probably have won if he came out of retirement. Seeing

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you all today, it is history for both sides. I present to you, the

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Brothers Cup. One of the things I love about the

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One Show is standing with families as they watch themselves on

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television. As you can see, we are here with both families. We have

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brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, grandparents, all sorts. We saw Ian

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talking about his grandfather, but your grandfather also played in the

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original team, didn't he? Yes, Eric is the second left on the back row

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and he told me about it from a young age. Is it a story that has been

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passed down through the generations? It was certainly passed to me and we

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have a photo in the house so my children know about it. So this

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happened in East Yorkshire but you have come from all over the shop.

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You didn't even know half your family before this. Met most today,

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yes! Did you want trials, how did you work out who was good enough to

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make the team? Very democratic, we just did a bit of rotation. That's

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why we lost. You are not better then. We want a rematch! Is it going

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to happen every year? It would be a wonderful thing if it does. Shall we

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finish on that classic goal? Here is Big Billy.

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Wonderful stuff. Thank you for making the effort. Lovely to see

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you. Of course, Ruth used to be known as Nessa. It says a lot that

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when people see her on the street they now call her Stella instead. I

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will be setting up a proper maintenance agreement so we know

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where we stand. Babies don't need a designer gear and I can afford to

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pay for it. Whatever. You will get what is fair but I'm not a pushover.

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Has not always been the case. Come on, girls. Say thank you. Thank you.

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To bring everybody up to speed, Stella is a trainee nurse who lives

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in a fictional Welsh town of Pontyberry. That is from the

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brand-new episode where Beyonce has started to demand money. Well done.

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In that clip, my friend Justin, her daughters were a couple of Beyonce's

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friends and it makes me really proud when I see them in the background.

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They are such lovely girls. I digress. It is a bit of a

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roller-coaster and obviously, that ended on a big cliffhanger, you

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don't know which way Stella is going to go. The normal thing would be to

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say, Michael, you are out of here. But she is a natural mum type and

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cannot resist. She is really a maternal. Yes, and quite realistic

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and tolerant. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. She takes

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Beyonce under her wing and looks after her. That unfolds as the

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series progresses. The way that it has been put together and written is

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classic you but where does this love of the classic sitcom come from with

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you? I don't make any excuses, it is not plot driven. Gavin and Stacey

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was not plot driven. The characters, I love the way people talk. The

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footballer story is an amazing real-life story and I think people

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are brilliant, I'm always hearing people saying things are doing

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things and you just go, people are brilliant. There is so much rubbish

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in the world that sometimes you just want to hear heart-warming stories.

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Have you always been that observant? I think so. I probably liked to

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mimic accents and that is part of the entertainer. People are going to

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have a shock when I say this but Ruth Jones is actually quite shy.

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With Stella and Nessa, they are quite big characters, do you write

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them to be someone quite different? I think so. Certainly, Nessa was

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quite upfront. You could be as rude as you like and, I hosted a charity

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event and I was able to tell people to shut up. It was great to be able

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to do that. Because Stella is a different type of show, comedy

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drama, she is more real and a bit nearer to what I'm like In Real

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Life. But yes, Stella wears a wig, I love that because I can hide under

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it. We've heard you might be taking a break. What will you be focusing

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on next? You always seem to be ahead of the game. My husband and I have

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got a production company, we write together, we have two projects on

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the goal, studio sitcom and comedy drama. We felt if we did not focus

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properly on them we did not think we could do them justice and could not

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do them at the same time. So we decided to take a break from it and

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it is certainly not the end of Stella, we hope to do a Christmas

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special later in the year. You've got to be realistic, there's no

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point in just giving a bit of yourself to something. You've got to

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throw yourself in and be committed to it. It keeps it fresh. But it is

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back on. You're watching it with a risotto. Yes, if you have not seen

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it you can catch up. DVDs are also available. We have heard that Ruth

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is a master when creating characters. Michael Douglas has been

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to make a few more who would probably fit in. This is ComicCon in

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central London. Fans come to dress up as their favourite superhero. I

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am here to sort out their hair. You could call me Lord of the ringlets.

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Does anybody need they here doing? -- needs their hair doing. Just a

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short back and sides. I realise this is not yours. Is! I thought it was

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attached to the hat. It is my hair! Finally, some here that I can work

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with. Meet Crystal maiden. This is Jenny. I'm going to give her a

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haircut to match her costume. Did you make this yourself? Yes. What

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brings you here? Friends. We are all into the same thing, we thought it

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would be a nice weekend away. Dressing up requires a certain sort

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of person. What do you do for a living? I'm a graphic designer. I've

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always been creative. What have you enjoyed about today? I had some

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photos taken. People are coming up and wanting pictures. Thank you,

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that is amazing. Did you ever think you would get your hair done by a

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hobbit? I really did not! It has been a first for us both. Last year,

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100,000 fans flocked here to spend ?10 million on merchandise,

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including swords made of foam. This is the big one at the moment. What

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is this one? These are full contact. It is a lot of fun. Here is someone

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famous for their phone face. Robert Llewellyn was in red dwarf. Relaxed,

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gentlemen, you are quite safe. He's been coming to these events for

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light years. There was a period of time where some of the costumes were

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clearly home-made. Before it opened they had sold 50,000 tickets. There

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you go, you look younger and more attractive. That is very sleek. Not

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everybody is in costume. Jackie has been dragged along by husband and

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daughter. I might come in costume next time. Who would you come as?

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Something glamorous, steam punk, an elf. Take a look! Very nice. She's

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shocked and surprised by that. I am Deadpool. What I learned is

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sometimes people feel more themselves when they are being

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someone or something else. But it is back to reality. I wish I had

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brought a change of clothes. Today we found out why the opinion polls

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for last year's general election were inaccurate, they were not

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asking the right people. The last thing we want is for the TV awards

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to fall into the same trap. Your vote would mean a lot for us.

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For large parts of Northern Ireland and Scotland, 2015 had a sting in

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the tail, and the name was Frank. The power of the water pushed the

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vans this way, leaving utter devastation.

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These two look as if they do nothing all day. Actually, they don't.

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Dimbleby has suddenly perked up. In her case, one half of the spine

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grows faster than the other half. This is lengthened by an external

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magnet. It can be done in one minute. It is make or break time.

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Captain Winterbourne is the Army's highest-ranking transgender officer.

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It was as simple as that. At the back of the church was

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Frieda, she knew very little about the person who had received her

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son's heart. The staff had never known a donor family and recipient

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to meet like this. This is tough. These riders are

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doing this because they've faced the biggest challenges you could ever

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imagine in their lives. I've never heard of black fox, it is a really

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good sighting. It is beautiful. I feel content, I will not let the

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spirit go. Another morning in North Yorkshire and yet more charity

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letters arrive. Viewers can use that exact letter. Everybody should print

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that out. World first, that is a fantastic sculpture. It is an early

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Christmas present. It is the most wonderful time of the year. All

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finished, nearly. I've missed the football.

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We've been busy. If we win, we get that little dog back. You need to do

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is go to the website, it is great fun, only takes a few minutes, you

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can choose from your favourite shows and you can vote for us there. The

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vote closes at noon. Don't forget, Stella is on tonight, 9pm on sky

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one. We will be back tomorrow. # The low rider

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