19/11/2012 The One Show

Hello! And welcome to an autonal The One Show with Alex Jones and

with Matt Baker. Tonight's guest starred as the Royle Family's next

door neighbour, the PP pment who renamed the Olympics as

"jubilympics". Well, now she is going to be going to the Caucasus

Mountains with Hugh Bonneville. It is Jessica Hynes! I love what you

pinned to your jacket? I found this lovely leaf and put it on the

jacket. So, this epic drive between you and

Hugh, who is the better driver? Hugh is a great driver. He is safe

and confident. We shared the driver equally, so with are both good

drivers, luckily. The producer rang earlier to say

you were a dare devil, what can that mean? I think there was a

point where they may be referring to the point where having spent a

lot of time on roads up to that point, precarious roads with

mountainous drops, vertical drops... It makes you wonder why you go on

that. Some of the drops are horrendousous! That is the part.

That is what I am talking about. Were you feeling a bit sick? There

is a lot of motion in that car?! Excellent shal Did you argue or get

on well? No, we got on great. We keeent each other laughing.

-- we kept each other laughing. That was the main intention to keep

the laughs coming. They are long days. You start at 7.00am and you

don't get out of the car until 8.00pm. So you have to keep the

humour levels going. Otherwise... It could get tense.

It is on early next year? Yes. We are looking toward to talking

about your new film, Nativity 2: Danger In The Manger, but before we

get festive, let's get seasonal. Why not? We are asking you to help

us mark the end of autumn. E-mail the best shots of golden leaves and

landscapes an we will have a look at the end of the show.

The thoughts are with you in Scotland, they are with you there.

There are floods there. Let's mention it is Autumn, not Fall.

That is North Americans and Americans! What is next? I don't

know. Right, now, thousands of people who

gossiped about Lord McAlpine on Twitter could be facing legal

action, possibly bringing to the end you can say anything you want

on the internet, but what is the worse crime? A fiscal assault on a

person or a verbal attack made online. Tony Livesey wanted to find

out what sentences you would hand down.

Lately more and more people are being prosecuted for posting nasty

comments on social media websites like Facebook and Twitter, but

should a comment attract a prison sentence? I have come to a city

famed for its Roman walls to find out what sentences the public here

think are appropriate for social media crimes.

Here we are with an array of sentences, with terms from two

months to five years. We are seeking judges to match examples of

real crimes to the sentences that they think they should have got.

They don't have the background details, but I'm sure that they

will have a view. You are the judge... The first case that they

are comparing is that of the team here from South Wales, guilty of

tweeting racist remarks about the footballer, Muamba.

Two months. A minimal prison sentence and community service...

We are comparing it to that of Karen Stevens, guilty of rirbally

abusing a footballer to his face. 12 months.

Probably three and six months. Street judges gave face testify

face racism a jail term, but on a racist tweet was less harsh. The

real judges thought differently. A racist tweet, jailed for 56 days.

I think that is over the top. Racism is not what you want to see

in any media. Rirbl abuse of -- racial abuse of a

footballer, banned for football for three years and 200 hours of

community service. You jailed her? Why has he been

jailed for 54 days and this lady has not? That is not fair.

Then we asked the judges to consider crimes against children.

Matthew Woods made what would be described as abhorrent comments

about the missing five-year-old, April Jones. What sentence does he

deserve. Months in prison. Facebook? Here is

that. You would have to teach someone a lesson. Five years.

would go 12. We are going months.

Most gave custodial sentences for the Facebook comments. So what

sentences would they give for a sexual assault on a seven-year-old.

It would be the death penalty. If that were my son, I know what I

would want. Five years in prison. The courts gave an eight-month

suspended prison sentence for the sexual assault, but booked the

Facebooker to eight weeks, reduced on appeal.

That is disgusting. What about the issue that has

become prevalent with social networking that a Facebook message

can lead to jail and assaulting the seven-year-old child cannot? This

is crazy. My street judges think that the

sentencing in some crimes is confusing. I am hoping that QC

Davenport can shed light. Can there be instances when a Facebook

message is dealt with more severely with the fiscal assault of a seven-

year-old child. That is what people are trying to understand here?

are different offences. With a survey of this kind you don't get

the full picture. When a judge sentences somebody he knows about

the offence, about the offender, all sorts of information.

Why do you think that social media crimes are attracting high

sentences? It is partly flavour of the month. The establishment, the

judges and the police, for example, are taking a dim view of it.

New guidelines on the sentencing of social media crimes are to be

published before Christmas. If my sentencing board is anything to go

by it is guidance that is very much needed.

Now, the cases that we chose are not typical. Most sexual abuses are

dealt with more severely, but courts are taking online comments

seriously. Yes, the other distinction to make they were

criminal cases and the case of Lord McAlpine is very much a civil case.

He is purr seeing them rather than the police, but going back to the

police. New guidelines are coming out near Christmas it seems that

they will be more relaxed about what is offensive. Up to now they

are dealing with about 50 cases a week of complaints on Facebook and

Twitter, but the Director of Public Prosecutions is saying that is too

many. So they are trying to say if you say something on Twitter that

is a credible threat to someone, they will look at it, but if you

are offensive, you could get away with it. The Director of Public

Prosecutions said this, "The right to be offensive must be protected,

the threshold therefore must be high." So you can have a go with

someone on the internet and get away with it.

Most people, overstepping the mark, there are a lot of people there

that see you in a pub and may be offensive. So what is the

difference of doing it online? main difference is it in writing.

It is hard to deny you have said it. If you write something down it is

there as evidence. As Lord McAlpine and his lawyers are finding out now.

I think it will affect how people use social media. The lawyers are

pursuing many people. It is like a free for all on Twitter. 340

million messages a day. People feel that they can say what they want,

but after the Lord McAlpine issue, Sally Bercow tweeted the word,

"Gulp." When she thought she would be pursued. I think many people

will feel that way. Lord McAlpine said that Twitter is not a place to

gossip with impunity. You can say have I a big nose, but you cannot

tweet about my sex uelt, that is it in a simple way.

You have just pointed that out! Great, now we know! Basically

anyone using Twitter or Facebook must be an amateur lawyer, they

have to learn about what can and cannot be said.

Thank you for autumn photos you are sending in, they are falling like

leafs from the tree! And Christine Walkden has been celebrating the

season too by surprising the people of Birmingham in their own front

gardens. That must have been a shock to them.

Autumn, and our gardens are getting ready for the long winter sleep.

But they don't go gently to that good night. They burn and rage

going out in a blaze of glory. The flowers are more or less

historical history now. I am in Birmingham to bathe in the colour

from the leaves and the berries. Vir vija creeper is a star --

Virginia creeper is a star. Flashing golds. Plump betterities,

meals on trees for the birds, but for me, the real autumn superstars

are the acers. Look at that one. It is vibrant, the leaves are stunning.

I have to find out more. Where is the proud owner? This is such a

beautiful example of an Acer. What do you enjoy so much about this

tree? Well, just the colours, really.

You know, it is uplifting. But the colour is so fleeting,

isn't it? That's right, but we look forward to this particular time.

What I enjoy is once it has dropped the beautiful claws and they fall

lake a veil on the ground. Those fantastic leaves. Whatever you are

doing to it, or it could be nothing, but you have it right. After a

disappointing summer, nature's payback is a cracker of an autumn.

Look at that beauty. You almost never see that in a front garden.

It is a crimson glory vine. They are normally stashed in back

gardens. They are draped over sheds and pergolas, what is the story?

What is the history? I know nothing of it. We have had it for 2 years.

Then it just appears. It is so beautiful you must get

people stopping to ask about it? do. It is clearly people that know

about it. They stop and ask about it and then they will take a

cutting. Normally people put it on a tree or

a pergola, but this is fantastic! The summerary's rain made this

autumn a bonanza for berries, the moisture has made them plump.

This is a beautiful tree. The pinks, the whites and often associated

with the spectacular autumn colour. It sustains all of those beautiful

berries. What a fantastic hedge. This house

is festooned with orange treats. We have to have a closer look.

Your plant is unbelieve able! thank you! How long has it been

there? 23 years. Where did you put it in? It was a

tiny plant when we put it in. It has gone through the tarmac.

Did you have plans for it to cover the house? We didn't think it would

get as big as it has, but we thought it would go up to the

window. It is so beautifully trained.

Sometimes it is cut about four or five times that is a year.

So high maintenance? Seriously. I have to hang out of different

windows. Do you get a lot of birds feeding

on it? Yes, we do. Last year there were flocks of

redwing. We, in fact, we could hide in the

window, behind them and look out and see them feeding here.

So, it is obviously a labour of love? It is, but I think it is

worth it. I will say! This is a real belter

it is not just bloomed, the front garden star, but at this time of

year they are the fowliage that light up the nation's

gardens.$$NEWLINE Lovely. I love that concept of Christine knocking

on the door. Any way, would you believe this,

this afternoon me and Alex went to the pictures to see a lovely film

and luck would have it you were in it! Amazeing! Sometimes that

happens. Nativity 2: Danger In The Manger it

is out this Friday. It is about a group of schoolchildren competing

at a singing competition, and then enter the angel, Angel Matthews.

Yes. It is a Christmas castle that we

discover. It means happy castle.

Sorry, yes, it is in Welsh! Well, how would you describe your

character, Jessica? She was an ex- child star. She had a number one

hit with her carol in 1987 and then a number seven. Her career has not

quite gone perhaps as she might have wanted it to go, but she is

still performing and is very, very happy. Well, maybe she is not quite

that happy, but she is now compering carol concerts and

getting a chance to sing. At the back of her mind she is always

hoping that maybe she will get another break.

It is like an early Charlotte Church? It is a sub-, sub-, sub-

Charlotte Church! Christmas is a time when we think of chocolate on

the calendar. Last-minute shopping on the internet and little girls

and boys welcoming in the window, wondering if Santa will bring that

toy that they asked for. Without further adieu, I would like to

introduce to you, Shane and the Calendar Girls, singing Counting

Down to Christmas. It is a brilliant Welsh accent.

Coming from you that is a great comiment. -- Compliment. Who was

your inspiration? I don't know, but when I was filming it, the director

sent shouting at me, remembering the accent, but it was more about

the character. The accent, I tried not to push it too hard.

A lot of it is improvised? It is all improvised! That is incredible.

The director knew where the story would go? I turned up, obviously. I

got into my dress and I was not quite sure what was, you know, I

knew roughly the character. Then I was on the set, which was this

massive stage. Then Debbie says, "Right, this is the situation, this

is what you are doing." And off you go. You just go for it.

Is it right that she film it is in order? She tries to as much as she

can. You cannot always do that, but yes, she does.

Well, you shine in it. It is brilliant. She is great to work

with. She just goes for it. It is so much fun working for her. All of

the kids in it were just amazing. So, you feel yourself flagging and

there they are, still going! It was a great experience.

Well it put us in the festive mood. Yes. Well if you have been watching

over the last couple of weeks you will know we have had an incredible

time with Children in Need. Team Rickshaw raised so much money. The

money is still coming in. In fact, the figure now stands at a

remarkable... Come on! That is amazing! Like I say, the money is

still coming in. Thank you! Thank you so much.

As we remind ourselves of their amazing efforts, spare a little

thought for their families. It all started ten days ago in clan

did know, North Wales with the first of many early starts.

See you later. James kicked off the 411-mile journey to London.

This is so unfair. The weather is just ridiculous! The wind in James'

face, the rain is coming down, but, you know what, he has done it.

Nobody knew how much of the strain each team member could take. Not

even the parents who watched anxiously from the sidelines as the

miles ticked by. That is right. Turn is slowly. Nice

and gently on the legs. Can you feel the burn? Yeah! Good boy.

Spirits were high as Ciaran road into Cardiff on day four. Can you

believe what Ciaran has achieved? He always fight force anything, but

he has surpassed all expectations again.

As the challenge entered day five, the public support helped to keep

the tired riders going. The Fire Brigade are out! We will

never forget the moment that Jamilla, who does not have the best

head for heights took the rickshaw over the Severn, and nor will her

mum. You will not believe how high you are now.

She has done so well. So, so, well. I'm so proud of her.

APPLAUSE Here they are, the Team Rickshaw!

They are Rickshaw Rockers! They must make you proud? Very, very

proud. He is inspiration to me, let alone him! Day six brought more

pain. James was in the saddle for the steepest of the hills.

This hill is absolutely massive. And emotional welcome awaited

Lauren. You will never believe this, but

Lauren still own as wheelchair. I sat in my chair last night for a

breather. I am unused to it a wee bit. I

thought I would be in it more. With everything, my postures,

confidence... You should be very proud, I think!. Yeah.

Nobody did more than Ciaran, to defy expectations after needing a

day off to rest. It is really great to achieve what

you set out to complete. Day eight and the team crossed the

finish line with Darren. Come on, team, let's get it over

the finish line! We did it! APPLAUSE

Wow! What a week. You can still donate. Jessica, will you please

tell them how: To show your support Now, they were amazing, Team

Rickshaw, but you are involved in a charity called Action for Children,

aren't you? I have supported them for about six years. They are

working with UK families who are struggling. At the moment they are

really in need of support. They have had a lot of families coming

to them, about two thirds of centres are people helping families,

that are trying to meet their demands.

You are doing something over Christmas? I talked to them about

what we could do. I thought about my actions for children's Christmas.

So I decided to give up Christmas presents and explained that to my

children and we can go to their website, actionforchildren.org and

go to their urgent Christmas appeal and find out about the kind of

families who you can donate Christmas presents to. Many were

facing a Christmas without even food on the table. So instead of

buying me a Christmas present donate me �5 or �30 or anything,

and help teach your children that Christmas is about giving. That in

itself is a gift. I do feel that. It is a brilliant idea.

Right, Smith Smith smuth continues his tour of famous bedrooms. He is

spending the night in Rudyard Kipling's house. Rudyard Kipling

also liked a private joke at the expense of his famous guests.

Rudyard Kipling bought this house in 1902.

He paid �9,300 for it and declared, "Behold us, lawful owners of a

Lichin house." The great author was famous for works like The Jungle

Books and Just So Stories. He was in the house with his wife

and their two young children. The house is full of names, including

the likes of explorers, Scott and Shackleton. Even a Prime Minister.

It is a particular privilege to stay here, Rudyard Kipling was very

choosy about his guests. The King of Sian, wanted to visit

here. Rudyard Kipling was contacted to ask if he would mind putting him

up, but he said that he had a group of scouts coming that day, that

they would have to tell him "no". What is this FIP? That was people

who fell in the pond. Rudyard Kipling built a rose garden

for his wife, Carey, the story of this table is a wonderful tale of

marital harmony. Mrs Kipling wanted it downstairs in the particle our.

Rudyard Kipling wanted it in the study. You will be surprised to

learn that she won, but he made a second copy for himself! Everything

is the same, but he needed extra leaves to give him extra space. He

was a messy worker. In many ways he was a child that

never grew up. Working in the mornings and in the afternoon

playing with the dogs, the children, his time to explore the world, the

estate and to explore his fantasies, I suppose.

The Rudyard Kipling bed radiological is now -- bedroom is

now the livingroom. Before I retire for the night,

though, I will sample some of the hospital ity.

The dress was always smart attire, but the food, after years of spicy

food in India, Rudyard Kipling suffered from ulcers, so fancy

dishes were off the menu... If you can keep your head when all about

you are losing theirs and blaming it on you... Rudyard Kipling's

famous poem If, ends with the words, "You will be a man, my son." Trajly,

his only son died within weeks of joining the First World War. John

was a keen volunteer, originally turned down for poor eyesight, but

his father intervened, getting him into the Irish Guards.

Rudyard Kipling blamed himself for that. In this room there is a

poingnancy hanging in the air. Such a sad, sad story with his son.

Yes, very sad. Well, we would like to say thank

you for all of the wonderful pictures you u have sent in. This

is from Helen in Rochdale. Look at that, Tony from Stoke-on-Trent sent

this in. It looks lick it has a life of its own.

And this one here. This is from bell

Bella from Bath, it is difficult to know which way that is supposed to

go up. And this is Coe, this is her in the

forest. And this one from Ayrshire. Lovely.

Beautiful colours. We noticed a change cycling down Wales and

across London. Thank you to everybody who has been on the show.

Thank you to Jessica and Nativity 2: Danger In The Manger is out on