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Hello and welcome to

The One Show with Alex Jones.

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And Matt Baker.

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We've two fellas making their debuts

on the show tonight,

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lovely guys by all accounts.

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It's just that something seems

to happen when the camera turns on.

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And this is England.

You are not

bringing that thing in here.

Want to

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see if I've got the minerals?

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Looking much more

chilled out tonight -

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it's Stephen Graham and Lennie

James!

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APPLAUSE

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APPLAUSE.

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Lennie, Stephen told us

he calls you Uncle Lennie,

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so you must have a softer side?

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I don't even know where it came

from.

Your a few years older than

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me, it's just your general

demeanour.

I'm an old man!

Note, you

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are loving, extremely sensitive and

someone you can rely on.

Who are you

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and what have you done with Stephen

Graham? I tell everyone he calls me

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uncle Lennie, a good mate.

We are

getting a flavour of you because

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that's what we are used to. How far

from the tough persona are you?

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Extremely, I'd like to say.

I have

seen you on CBeebies doing the

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bedtime stories!

Yes, I loved doing

CBeebies. I'm completely different

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to the characters I play.

What is

the story behind this?

The story

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behind that is my wife, Hannah. It

is her fault.

Why?

Because she

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thought it would be a good idea for

me to do it and generally anything

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she says I do. It's about showing

another side to me I suppose.

We're

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going to keep you nice and relaxed

tonight, which is the idea.

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But just how relaxed would you feel

if you had to drastically cut

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down your use of plastic?

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Today's news that plastic particles

have been found in three quarters

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of deep ocean fish reminds us

what a critical point

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we have reached.

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No wonder so many families

are trying their best

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to find alternatives.

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The Proud family from Manchester all

have hectic lives. But mum Louise,

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dad Wayne and daughters 15-year-old

Macy and 11-year-old Amber found

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time to take on the challenge close

to my heart. Are you ready to go

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plastic free? I want them to reduce

their single use disposable plastic

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consumption for a whole week and

record how they get on with video

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diaries. But first I want to find

out how much plastic they currently

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use.

When I cook a meal it is just a

load of plastic so I've been

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shopping today and

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shopping today and everything is in

plastic bottles. Everything is just

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in plastic, and it is concerning.

Like most families they don't feel

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they have a choice to use plastic.

Dad Wayne is in charge of the

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recycling. But not all plastic is

easily recycled. Can I look in the

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rubbish bin?

If you must!

We have

this flimsy plastic here. When is

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this from?

Today.

And it isn't just

at home...

We get milk in plastic

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bottles with straws in them and

every day we throw them in the

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rubbish bin.

I'm interested in

personal care products, moisturiser,

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shampoo...

Make up wipes.

Make up

wipes are woven together with

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plastic. What's wrong with a

flannel?

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So can they go without single use

plastic for a whole week or is it

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just too convenient? They begin the

week with some success.

Instead of

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using face wipes I am using a

flannel.

And Louise ditches her

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plastic plate... But at the

supermarket reality hits.

All

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plastic, I haven't got to anything

yet that hasn't got plastic on it.

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Midweek and the cupboards become

bare so Wayne takes the kids food

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shopping. This time he ditches the

supermarket in favour of a shop in

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Bolton selling produce without

plastic packaging.

Do we just put

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everything in the basket?

If you are

happy to, we would love that.

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There's paper bags for loose items.

After visiting the bakers and

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butchers they are still plastic free

but it's not as convenient as the

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supermarket.

We have done quite a

few miles and nearly three hours.

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Today the girls went into the shop

to buy carrots like this, which they

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were very excited about. It is

bizarre in this day the kids are

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excited to buy vegetables that is

not packaged.

The children are so

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excited, Amber

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excited, Amber decides to tackle the

problem of plastic milk bottles and

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straws at her school.

What I would

like to think about is how we can

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use other things.

Raise your hands

now if you are for Amber's idea.

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Fantastic. It will be our job to

make sure it is implemented.

Macy

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checks her parents are still toeing

the line.

What do you think you are

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doing there?

And cleaning.

With

plastics?

Yes, but it is reusable.

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The other day I got the bleach

bottle, filled it up to there and

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with water.

But has she caught dad

out?

What is all of this plastic?

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Pineapple!

No, what is this?

There

was no other choice than what was

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there. It is difficult to get meet

that isn't in plastic from the

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supermarket.

Experiment over but

what impact has it hard? I'm back to

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find out. I'm seeing more glass and

tins, less plastic but not a huge

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reduction. How has it been?

Hard, I

have been dreaming about plastic!

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Has this week been more expensive?

From what to what?

We normally spend

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about £100, I think it has been 120.

He wouldn't have been able to do

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this challenge if you shopped in the

supermarkets where you normally

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shop, it wouldn't have worked, would

it?

No, they have addressed plastic

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bags, now they need to address

plastic in the store.

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So Louise, Wayne, Macy

and Amber, welcome.

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That was brilliant. As Lucy said, it

is because the supermarket, it is

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very difficult because everything

comes in packaging. You drove three

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hours and all you got was a dirty

carrot which is fine but it's not

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sustainable on a day-to-day basis

for a family like you so what needs

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to be done to make this easier for

everybody?

We need to get that of

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plastic basically out of the

supermarkets. It's everywhere so you

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need to reduce it massively.

Everywhere you go to is plastic.

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Lucy basically went through your

whole house so as far as the

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categories are concerned, beauty

products and whatever, what was the

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hardest area to cut back on? You

think food?

For me, make up products

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because I couldn't find any that

didn't contain a small bit of

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plastic. It maybe a glass bottle but

it still had a plastic lid.

Have you

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looked at websites where you can buy

make up products that are in

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recyclable stuff.

I have looked at

it but I don't know if I'm willing

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to pay that much to get a plastic

bottle that is recyclable.

Fair

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enough.

Amber, we saw you with your

school friends so what have your

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school teachers said to you?

We are

trying to change it and make a

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difference on how we are using milk

because the plastic, it's the

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plastic lids and the straws that are

bad but we are trying to replace

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them and figure out a way we can do

it, getting in touch with the milk

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company.

Good, because everyone in

your class was on board, weren't

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they? You were talking about meat

saying that the hardest thing to

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come by that is not in plastic but

as a family are you going to stick

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with this?

Definitely.

I'm dreaming

about plastic. I have got my own

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back we make now, we enjoyed making

those. I've got my straws, we need

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to change straws from plastic to

paper, that's a big one for me so

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I'm on a mission.

Maisie, you must

be noticing plastic everywhere right

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now.

Literally everywhere. School,

everywhere. It is hard when you go

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into shock and not just see plastic,

getting a snack or bottle of water,

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you have to check everything to see

if it is recyclable.

And obviously

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you don't want to be continuing when

you are mum's age. It has to stop.

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Yes because in the future I see a

future where people don't care any

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more. Plastic will be in the oceans,

we will have less fish and my

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children won't understand what it's

like not to have a world full of

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plastic and I don't agree with it.

We could change it so

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We could change it so easily, even

changing bins around streets not

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just a general waste but recyclable

ones as well as general waste.

Do

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you want to go and work with the

Lucy?

That was so eloquently said

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and you should be proud.

The pair of

them have done amazing.

That was

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cracking the way you put that.

We

are in the hands of the next

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generation, that's what we need,

definitely.

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definitely. The congratulations are

going to continue now.

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We've got to say congratulations

to League One's Wigan,

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who knocked Manchester City out

of the FA Cup last night in a real

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old-fashioned giant killing.

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The winner was scored

by Will Grigg, a man who's been

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immortalised in song.

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COMMENTATOR: A lot of people would

have known the song better than they

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knew his face!

Free from desire,

that was the song.

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Football chants have a mixed history

with some spreading racial

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and religious bigotry.

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Which is why what's

happening in Liverpool

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at the moment is so interesting.

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Here's Mehreen.

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Here at Anfield, football is

worshipped like a religion and the

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stadium is its cathedral. There are

lots of songs sung on the terraces,

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but a recent one is

uncharacteristically different. It

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is catchy and in honour of Egyptian

international Mohammed Salah, and it

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has gone viral. It not only embraces

the man for his talents on the field

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but also for his religion. Football

has had problems with sectarian and

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racist chanting but this song is the

complete opposite. Have you heard

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the new football chant about Salah?

Yes, we have.

What do you think

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about it?

We think it's positive

because we are not racist people.

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What was your reaction when you

first heard it?

A bit shocked. It is

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quite sensitive thing, quite a

personal thing to be just thrown

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around like that.

I saw it and I was

like here we go again, another

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controversial chant but they are

just adding the word in for shock

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value. They could have just said I

will become a footballer too.

As

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long as he's a red, that's all we

care about.

Supporters can loosen up

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their vocal chords before a match

here on Anfield Road.

When you are

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hearing it, you cannot stop singing

it and when you go to bed you can't

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get to sleep because it is in your

head, just singing it all the time.

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It's great!

What do you think about

including religion in songs at

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football games?

If it brings faiths

together it has got to be a good

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thing.

It's not a fan base, it is a

family. Whether you are white,

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black, Asian, African, Caribbean,

whatever.

Adopted Scouser Adam is a

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Muslim chaplain who loves the song

and the message it sends out.

I was

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chanting it myself...

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# If he's good enough for you,

he's good enough for me

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# If he scores another few

then I'll be Muslim too

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# If he's good enough for you,

he's good enough for me

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# He's sitting in a mosque,

that's where I want to be.

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Usually you expect negative things

but on this occasion it has been

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positive. What's especially pleasing

to me is the words they chose to

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use. You think thank God, finally,

the person's religion is being

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mentioned as a positive aspects. It

really made me smile.

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# If he's good enough for you, he's

good enough for me.

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# If he's sitting in the mosque,

that's where I want to be. I'm

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tempted to go to Anfield and join in

the chanting.

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And well, watching that would

interest, Stephen, you are a

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lifelong Liverpool fan and you said

are you we going to show the picture

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and the answer is yes! There you are

aged six. Have you heard this song

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before, are you familiar with it,

what you saw there?

No, I don't

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really get a chance to go to many

Liverpool games but I heard it early

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on and I think of that is not

integration, then I don't know what

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is. It's got that bit of humour

about it but it is with great

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intent.

It's everything that is good

about being in the stands at a

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football game. It's got all the

sense of humour, it's inclusive and

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it's a group of people who probably

wouldn't have much to say to each

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other on a day-to-day basis but when

they are all stood together cheering

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their team, it is the same bond, it

is the reason I go to football. And

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Harry Kane. Moussa Dembele.

Your

roots are in south London, Lennie,

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is that what you based your new

drama you have written and starred

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in, Save Me, there?

It is. It is

weird because when I was writing the

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first three episodes, I was in

America writing them but when the

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idea came, it was always an idea I

was going to set in London. I am a

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south-west London boy and this is

set in south-east London button

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area, New Cross and Deptford, where

I spent a lot of time, because I had

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family there and I wanted to write a

thriller and I wanted to set it

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someplace that thrillers aren't

normally set and I wanted it to be

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populated by people who want usually

included in the telling of a

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thriller.

He said you came up with

the idea of it, it is about a

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missing child but actually much more

of that, so what is the core of the

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idea and what are you trying to tell

with it?

It is a thriller but also

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the story of redemption and it is a

kind of tale of the price of

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redemption, because the main

character is a man who is accused of

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abducting his daughter and he sets

out to prove his innocence but also

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to find the person who took there,

because the person who took her

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pretended to be him so he sets out

on this almost impossible mission

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and the story is about the affect it

has on him, the effect it has on his

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immediate friends because whoever

took her is someone who knew a lot

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about Nelly and finally the effect

it has on the community and the

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effect it has on his relationship

with the mother of his daughter.

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They haven't seen each other the

10-year sandbelt brought back

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together for this rather sad thing.

It is a very strong cast and

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Stephen, at the beginning, you play

your pub made, in a sense. What

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gripped you about the script?

It was

the complexity of the characters.

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For me, it's very much an ensemble.

Obviously, you have a main character

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who the story is about but there are

no small characters, each character

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is completely integral and what

really gripped me was the thriller

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aspect to it, Gena what I mean? You

want to know what happening, you

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want to know where she is but a

longer journey, you also find out...

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You get a look behind the closed

doors of the people on this estate

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and juicy snippet of their lives.

And predominantly, without being

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horrible in any way, shape or form,

most of the things that we see which

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represent those kinds of people are

these people on the dole or these

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different kind of factual

documentaries that we see, these

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real life stories where cameras

following these people and it is

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also Rangers this and benefits that

and that's not the way it is -- all

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scroungers this.

You talked about

the cast, Sue rang Jones stars as

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your daughter's mother. We will talk

about the tense reunion -- see the

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tense reunion.

Why are you here?

You

think this could be me.

Please give

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her back.

How? How could this be me?

It could be. And don't you come here

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like that like I don't know you,

because I know you.

100 years ago,

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maybe.

It is still you.

It must

be... Is it daunting when you are

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writing this stuff, you are starring

in this thing and you have all of

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these people effectively working on

your baby, how have you taken to

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that than what is it like in that

situation?

I'll tell you, like, when

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for example someone suggested

Stephen for one of the characters,

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we will never get Stephen, he will

never come, even though he calls me

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Uncle Lennie and Stephen said yes

and Suranne said yes and Jason

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Fleming said yes and we had a

fantastic director in Nick Murphy

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and when everybody comes to it, you

think I must have done something

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right and you take confidence from

that and it is a really weird thing

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when you walk into work on the first

day and there are 100, 120 people

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working all because of you sat in a

room writing things on your

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computer. And it is a really good

feeling and after that, it was just

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gravy, everyone came in, wanted to

work, enjoying what they were doing

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and we had a really good time in

south-east London for about three

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months.

We enjoyed it immensely,

didn't we?

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Now, like many seaside towns,

Aberystwyth is home to a nightly

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phenomenon which is either an

attraction or a curse depending on

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your point of view.

And it starts just before dusk.

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You see them arriving in October in

a few small groups around the town.

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Mainly for me, it is hood up and run

up the prom!

You see this fantastic

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spectacle and then you get the

smell.

And that is when I start to

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get a bit twitchy.

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get a bit twitchy.

I was a student

at Aberystwyth University and people

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on the pier were looking for staff.

22 years later, I am the general

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manager.

I used to come to the pier,

to the nightclub, when I was a

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teenager and now, still, we come

here for a night out.

It is a

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special place, it is difficult to

beat.

I have been photographing now

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since 1980. I do have an obsession

about the starlings in Aberystwyth.

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Every day, between October and

March, I have to be here. I can't

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not come and see the starlings.

Thinking back to when I first

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started, I guess I didn't take much

notice of the starlings, it was just

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winter is here and here come the

starlings and how many will there be

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this year?

Oh, the starlings. We do

enjoy watching them, but mainly from

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inside.

We have a number of paying

customers and then we have our

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feathered freeloaders.

The starlings

arrive about half an hour before

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sunset.

I refer to them as having

little squadrons coming in.

They

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start flying above the pier and then

more groups will join them.

There

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must be tens of thousands of them.

There are too many. They would

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pebble dashed appear. You would

people walking down the street and

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think they were being attacked by

machine guns -- pebble dash the

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pier. All of this coming from the

sky!

The timing is usually as we are

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walking to the pier after work and

they are all coming in at the same

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time.

It is just that sheer magical

daily ritual that entrances me.

It

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would just be crusty blanket art

heard you would have to clear.

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Wouldn't anyone have a tiny problem

up that -- crusty blanket of of

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turd.

It is lovely to watch, but

from inside.

The attempted methods

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to determine the starlings roosting

under the pier, one was flood

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lights, a case of they may not sleep

but all the lie to did we show them

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the very best roosting places.

Which

is a genuinely awesome experience.

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Gross carers, that was another

failed attempt. Hosepipes with holes

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into sprinkle them was a nonstarter.

It is hypnotising on all sorts of

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levels.

We zigzagged a yellow tape

on the pier and the starlings would

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have it a wide berth but then we

fielded a few phone calls from

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anxious members of the public asking

if the end of the pier was going to

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fall off.

In the rain, in the snow,

in the gales, any sort of weather,

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you will find them. I am doing it

all the time, obsessively.

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We are no longer battling the

starlings. You are not going to stop

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them, you have actually just got to

embrace them.

They are one of the

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major attractions of Aberystwyth.

There are very few urban starling

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murmuration is in the UK, where you

can be in amongst the starlings as

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they fly around.

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People travel a long, long way to

view these murmuration is because

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they are incredible.

The mesmerising

pattern of these birds as they fly

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in murmurations is a genuinely

awesome experience and I couldn't be

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happier.

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We are all mesmerised, we are still

talking about murmurations.

I

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remember my nightclub days in the

pier and when you use to dance, the

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floor would go up and down.

Well, we

will talk more about your work

0:25:430:25:49

because you are both stars of two

massive TV shows out there, these

0:25:490:25:52

box sets that people download. Is it

all right to talk about Boardwalk

0:25:520:25:58

Empire? Stephen, how you got into it

in the first place, because this is

0:25:580:26:02

a big American production.

Yes, it

was kind of strange, I didn't have

0:26:020:26:06

much work going at time and that is

how it can be, bit of a lonely place

0:26:060:26:12

and all of a sudden this phone call

came from nowhere and it was my

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manager in America and he asked me

would I be in to take a call from

0:26:170:26:22

Martin Scorsese's office.

You should

have said, no, I'm not interested.

0:26:220:26:27

I'm busy! And I said of course and

he phoned back 20 minutes later and

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it was Marty on the phone and he

said, what are you doing? Not much

0:26:310:26:36

at the minute. How have you been? I

said I am good, because I had worked

0:26:360:26:41

with him on Gangs Of New York and he

said I have this thing for you, we

0:26:410:26:46

start in two months so I will send

you all the stuff out and I'm sure

0:26:460:26:50

you would like to be interested and

I was like, yeah, OK. And he went,

0:26:500:26:56

oh, you are playing Al Capone, I'll

see you in a couple of months.

0:26:560:27:01

Cheers, Marty, bye-bye! And I

thought, what was that? I have no

0:27:010:27:06

idea, I think he wants the to play

Al Capone!

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Well, what a role, especially those

who have played before it, and

0:27:100:27:15

coming from Martin Scorsese.

And you, Lennie, you are in the huge

0:27:150:27:19

international hit The Walking Dead

and didn't you have this bizarre

0:27:190:27:22

experience when you are filming?

Because you are not one of the

0:27:220:27:25

zombies.

No, I'm not, not yet,

anyway!

Spoiler!

I think you are

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talking about when I came back in

season three, because I did the

0:27:320:27:36

first-ever episode and I was gone to

seasons and when I came back, they

0:27:360:27:39

wanted to keep it secret. We shoot

in Atlanta, about 50 minutes outside

0:27:390:27:45

of Atlanta but they stuck me an hour

and a half outside of Atlanta Noonan

0:27:450:27:51

and I stayed in a bed-and-breakfast

and the people who ran it had to

0:27:510:27:56

sign a confidentiality agreement

promised they would wouldn't tell

0:27:560:27:58

anyone I was staying with them and

their guests who were staying at the

0:27:580:28:02

B and B had to sign confidentially

agreement to say they wouldn't tell

0:28:020:28:07

anyone I was staying there and when

I went back and forward to set, I

0:28:070:28:10

had to go in a van with blacked out

windows.

Did anybody find out from

0:28:100:28:14

the cast?

There are websites, their

whole job is to find spoilers for

0:28:140:28:19

The Walking Dead. I think there is

one called Boiling Dead and that is

0:28:190:28:25

all they do so when I went outside

during takes, they would have this

0:28:250:28:29

screen and is poor guy would have to

walk around hiding me. I was like,

0:28:290:28:35

surely this is not necessary?

That

is where we will finish, thank you

0:28:350:28:39

Poko and please come back and see us

again. A round of applause for

0:28:390:28:43

everybody. Both series available on

Sky Atlantic and Now TV -- saved me

0:28:430:28:50

it available.

We will be backward Elke Brooks and

0:28:500:28:52

the launch of my Mother of All

Challenges Sport Relief and we will

0:28:520:28:55

have these guys. Good night.

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