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Hello and welcome to

The One Show with Alex Jones.

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And Matt Baker.

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Our guests tonight are both

heavy-hitters in their own rights.

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But if they were pitted against each

other, who would come out top?

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It's time for a face-off.

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Bring in the microphone! Here we go!

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From Leeds, weighing

in at 112 pounds...

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She's the Olympic world champion

featherweight who started fighting

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with the nickname "Babyface".

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Not any more.

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It's Nicola "The Lioness" Adams!

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APPLAUSE.

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From Port Talbot, weighing

in at (COUGHS) pounds...

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He's the Hollywood heavyweight whose

knockout performances include

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Tony Blair, Brian Clough

and Sir David Frost.

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It's Michael 'The Welsh

Dragon' Sheen.

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APPLAUSE.

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Welcome! Have a seat! Nice to see

the! Come over! There we are!

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The two of you have never met,

but Nicola, you're a big fan

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of a certain vampire

played by Michael?

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Yes, Twilight!

Unbelievable! I

thought you were going to say David

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Frost! You went to the premiere of

the last one?

Yes and I really

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enjoyed it!

Will there be another

one? Yes, it is about a vampire from

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Wales... It is just his life, one

man show! No, I don't think there is

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going to be any more!

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Nicola - you've only gone and got

yourself your own Barbie doll.

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Do you have it with you?

Have they

given you one of them?

It is

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actually in my hotel! You forgot?

Did you not get the e-mail? That is

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the first bit of the show just gone!

The surprise is, I am the Barbie

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doll!

It has been the arms, the same

haircut, my trunks, my little boats.

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It is really me! And you take it

everywhere with you, apart from the

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One Show!

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Also tonight...

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She topped the charts

with Clean Bandit and Rockabye.

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Tonight she'll be performing her

latest single, Friends.

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Anne Marie is here.

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And we'll be connecting

with TV's newest agony aunts.

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They're the stars of a new show

'The Secret Helpers,'

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where they use their worldly wisdom

to give advice to Brits

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when they need it most.

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And tonight they could

be helping you.

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Because they're joining us live

from their home countries.

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Let's meet them now.

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First to Italy to meet husband

and wife Gennaro and Chiara.

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Halal! We are very well.

Good

evening and nice to meet all of you!

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Happy anniversary!

APPLAUSE.

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They want to hear from you if

cooking or romance is the issue.

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And say hello to Lilian in Norway.

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A yogi, life coach and

motivational speaker.

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She does a mean downward dog!

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If you've got a question about

making a life change, send it in.

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And finally, for everything else,

there's New York cops Mark and Joe.

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What was the shift like this

afternoon? Pretty busy, we had a big

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snowstorm here are!

And apparently

it is going to get worse according

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to the Weather Centre! Hopefully the

line will stay for the rest of the

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show!

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That's your line-up.

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So if you need any

advice, get in touch.

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It's been a very busy couple

of days for Michael.

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You have been at Parliament? I was,

very posh. It is a new report from

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the Royal Society for Public Health.

About the impact on mental and

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physical well-being around certain

credit products, particularly high

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credit. We launched that report and

we had people interested in that

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issue and it was fantastic.

We will

talk more about that shortly.

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Joe met up with him in Glasgow

before he launched his big idea

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to tackle the problem.

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I'm in Glasgow spending the day with

Michael Sheen but he doesn't want to

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talk about his latest film. He is

here to launches End High Cost

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Credit Alliance, many people from

across the Finance centre together

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to tackle Britain's's debt crisis.

What is the key issue? For me it is

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fairness. For a lot of people who

don't have the same kind of access

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to mainstream credit, they find

themselves pushed towards what we

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call high-cost credit lenders.

With

UK households currently owing nearly

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£200 billion in consumer credit,

Michael wants to see less people

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turning to high-cost lenders. The

first stop is at the home of mother

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of four, Lynn. Like many others, she

felt she had no choice but to use a

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doorstep lender.

If you need things

for the house... The only way to get

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the money is through credit.

Did you

look at things like the interest

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payments upfront? I never looked at

that. When did you first start to

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feel like it was starting to become

difficult for you?

At times you

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could not pay it and you had to miss

the payment. They would come to the

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door or telephone you and you were

hiding behind the door! They would

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get to you.

And she is not alone,

last year and 1.4 million people

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borrowed from doorstep lenders, pay

weekly high stores and payday

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companies. I find Lynn very

interesting because was not much

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awareness of what the exact interest

was.

It was about flexibility for

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her? Not necessarily thinking about

paying more than twice the amount of

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what you originally...

What happens

if she misses a week? Typical

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high-cost annual percentage rates

can range from 270 present to over

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1500%, depending on how much you

borrow and over what period. If you

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borrow £300 and pay that back over

52 weeks, you could end up paying

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back more than £550, almost double.

For many that is a price they feel

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they have no option but to pay.

In

this day and age it should not be

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happening, I don't think a lot of

people are in that situation where

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they have to.

Waiting for their

salary to come in so they have to go

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to these companies to buy stuff for

their houses.

They are paying it

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back for years and years, getting

deeper and deeper in.

Ridiculous.

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Almost 50 members make up Michael's

Alliance, including lenders,

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regulators and public health bodies,

who say they are committed to

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delivering terror finance.

You want

to make it harder for people who are

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being irresponsible and overly

exploitative but you can only do

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that if you also support the company

is trying to give a fairer deal to

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people and being more responsible.

Michael takes me to one of the

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companies in his Alliance. A

not-for-profit social enterprise

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which offers financial help to those

who need it.

Our nearest competitor

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might charge 600% APR or as we are

around 116%. If you borrow £15 for a

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month, the APR is much higher and

that might sound quite hide to lots

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of people but...

The credit card

might be 20% or the back loan is 3%?

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We are not comparing mainstream

credit, we are compelling high-cost

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lenders. Why cannot not be lower?

Smaller loans are more expensive to

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administer than larger ones. You

find mainstream lenders tend to shy

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away from that market and it is left

to the high-cost lenders.

One person

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who says she is benefiting is Lynn.

I don't have the word is any more of

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that man at the door phoning me,

telling me I have to pay extra or

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double.

I don't have that hassle.

And the APR still looks quite high

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but it is lower than it was.

Do you

notice a difference? A lot because I

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am paying off my loans quicker.

High-cost credit is unfairly

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targeted at those who can least

afford it...

As he launches his

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Alliance in Glasgow, Michael says it

needs to act fast to help more

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people Mike Glennon before the

financial crisis deepens.

The levels

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of household debt or unsustainable

and it affects families, local

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communities and it is dangerous

nationally, we have to sort this

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out.

Shirley Cramer, CEO for The

Royal Society for Public Health, who

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published the report, joins us.

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Michael, you're so passionate

about this issue.

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Where did that come from?

As you

both know, with some celebrity

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people say, but you have a

photograph taken or support this

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project? Over the last seven or

eight years, doing more of that,

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certain things come up again and

again. You hear stories and I

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started to hear more about debt and

having troubles with paying stuff

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back. Worrying about the stress and

especially around high-cost and it.

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I started to look into this and

eventually I was hearing family

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members and friends talking about

this and as I looked at this I

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realised what a conjugated subject

it is.

It is very complicated, if

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you are not into finance?

It

overlaps so many things, talking

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about APR. What does that mean? Lots

of difficult stuff. As I looked into

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this I realised there was great work

out there and people trying to grade

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a fairer deal for people who find

themselves cut off from mainstream

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credit. What I started to do was put

this Alliance together to bring lots

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of these people together who had the

same aspiration, to bring the cost

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of borrowing down for people who

have trouble affording it, and get

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them working together to try to do

lots of different things at the same

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time rather than individual great

work and not getting through.

How do

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you see the alliance working going

forward?

One of the aspects is to

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work with somebody like Shelley.

Public health has not been part of

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this, the impact of certain credit

products like payday loans and

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arranged overdrafts and doorstep

lending and weekly payments. We know

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they are difficult financially for

people but with this report we know

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the effects on health. And we need

to make sure there are

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recommendations taken up by

government and regulators to look

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after our health. As soon as you

start talking to somebody about

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money trouble they start talking

about the stress.

I was not

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sleeping... The people in this

report, they are skipping meals?

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Skipping meals, depressed, socially

isolated. People feel the stigma and

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judged.

It is hard to talk about

anything financial?

With that

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depression and you have anxiety and

sleep problems. One in ten people

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have gone to a food bank for the

first time when involved in payday

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lending and some of the high-cost

credit. We have tried to quantify

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all of the things that can happen to

you. If you are checking out

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these... And we never looked at this

in this way, this is the first time

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this has been brought together, we

can say, this has an effect on your

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well-being.

Into a different

place... What recommendations are

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you looking at to help this

situation?

We have a parcel of

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recommendations and one of them is

critical. That is to stop the

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lenders, the high-cost lenders,

marketing hard to people already

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paying these loans. They might have

seven or eight loans and you get

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bombarded with texts and e-mails.

That can do with regulation, that

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needs to stop and we need financial

literacy in schools. People have no

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idea when they come out of schools

about insurance, mortgages, let

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alone high-cost credit and the

problems they can get from that.

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Many people take these products

side. And it becomes a vicious

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circle? We suggest that credit

agreements should have health

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warnings. That might sound

outrageous but it is to release show

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people that there are other impacts

that can happen, not just financial.

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They payday loan companies are keen

to point out... But everybody is

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vulnerable and there is some

protection. From the research you

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have done, the people taking that

these loans often are not ask the

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difficult question, whether they

have mental issues that need to be

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looked at?

Before the loan is given?

Remember, credit is really useful,

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it is important, it helps people.

There is nothing wrong with that.

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You don't know what's happening down

the line, if the washing machine

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suddenly breaks... The problem is,

there is an unfair deal going on, it

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is not just about people being

vulnerable, it is unfair and there

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are companies that are trying to do

everything they can to bring the

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price of borrowing down and be more

responsible about whether it is

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right for you to have credit and

they can work with you and your

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needs and maybe give you support and

advice. Those companies are very

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small, that is what we are talking

about, to support them and get more

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people to know about this.

It is one

thing from wealthy people to have a

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financial adviser but the most

important people are people who are

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in trouble? Very quickly, this is a

minefield, what is it all right at?

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There Are Two Aspect, One Of The

Problems I Found In Dealing With

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This Area Is that people have got

scared because it can't become

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perfect overnight, and even with the

companies we would call doing a

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fairer finance deal. Because of

that, people back off. They think it

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is still too high. Instead of high

cost credit, we can't go straight to

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low-cost, but maybe we can do

mid-cost. Rather than talk about an

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actual figure, we are talking about

two things. The price of borrowing,

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people talk about APR, but there is

the responsible relationship between

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the lender and borrower. If the

lender takes your needs into account

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and what you can deal with, and if

credit isn't the right option for

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you, and they can see you are going

to get into trouble, offering

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support and advice. The fair nature

of it is to bring the price of

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borrowing down. The more people

support smaller companies, the more

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the price can come down. They are

not-for-profit, that is the thing.

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The smaller ones are not making

profit for shareholders or bonuses,

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all the money they make goes back

into the Company to bring the price

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down for you, for your borrowing, to

get a fair deal.

Thanks for coming

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in. Don't leave us there, stay with

us for the rest of the show.

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Five years ago, our cameras

caught these scenes

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in the coastal village of Hemsby.

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You might have seen on the news that

it's happened all over again.

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David Whiteley was there

for us first time around.

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He's gone back to see why Hemsby has

been left so exposed.

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The last time I was here in Hemsby,

I saw three houses disappear into

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the sea. This weekend, there have

been really high tides and a strong

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easterly wind, battering the

coastline. Look at that house, that

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is one of 13 teetering on the brink

of catastrophe. I have come back to

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find out what is happening to stop

it. Lorna Bevan Thomson, runs the

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lake on arms. You have been here

since the 70s, how much of the

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coastline has changed in that time?

It is entirely different. We have

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lost 300 metres of beach. In the

80s, we lost countless houses on the

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dunes, we did it five user go with

the search, it has happened now, why

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is no one 's dipping in to help?

The

problem is not just confined to

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Hemsby, is it?

We have a gap through

to Long Beach. If it gets into

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there, it will flood through to

Winterton, into the Norfolk Broads.

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We see the houses disappearing, but

it is easy to forget they are

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peoples homes. When you look up, you

can see belongings. A teapot on the

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sand dunes. I will meet a resident

that can no longer live here, and

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sadly, he has been preparing for

this day for a long time.

If you

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look at the blocks out there, that

was where the back of my garden was

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on Friday. Tonnes of sand

disappeared into the North Sea.

I

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remember how stoic you were last

time I filmed you. But now, you are

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resigned to the fact that you are

homeless.

I am homeless, yes.

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The Environment Agency has clear

guidelines on this widespread

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problem.

This is one of the fastest eroding

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coastline in the whole of Europe,

actually, around Norfolk and this

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area in particular. Our role is to

look at schemes being put forward by

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the local authority at Hemsby, to

see if they justify public funding

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from us, and in doing that

assessment, we will look at whether

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the scheme will do the job it should

do, whether it will last, and

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whether it is good value for money

for the public purse. Primarily, it

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is based on the number of households

we will protect, judged against the

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cost of the actual scheme.

The government may say that to

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defend Hemsby from the sea would

just be far too expensive.

We have

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5600 people in the village, 70% of

those rely on seaside tourism. We

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have Great Yarmouth down the road

that relies on speeding them

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business. We have a

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business. We have a hold of Norfolk

waiting for our customers to go out

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and spend money with them. All these

people that that has a knock-on

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effect with, their way of life will

go if we don't get protected.

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This is devastating to see this.

Terrible.

Having been here before,

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can we go in here?

No, you can't go

in here at all. Underneath there,

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there are no foundations. That could

just snap. Gone.

When we leave,, it

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could be the last time?

I am just

getting my last bits and pieces now.

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A bit of heartbreak, really. But,

you know, I think I have got to walk

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away from the building. Me and Lizzy

bought this and we thought we would

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be here for the rest of our lives.

Eight years... It is finished now.

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The sad news is for Paul, that was

actually the last time he will be

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there, because the houses will be

demolished by the end of next week.

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Nicola, coming up to the first

anniversary of your first

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professional fight. Since then, you

have won every single one. All three

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of them.

Yeah.

Who have you got in

view next? Who would you like to

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take on?

Anyone.

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take on?

Anyone.

"Please Don't say

me!"

I am looking forward to going

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for a world title shot at the end of

the year. There are four, so I am

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looking for them to volunteer. I

have called a few of them out

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already, and there has basically

been silence.

When you have called

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them out, how does it work?

I have been on Twitter and

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Instagram, and I have said, I want

one of the world titles, the WBO,

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IBF, WBC. Nobody's come forward.

Odd

that.

Do you say, come and have a go

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if you think you are hard enough?

Maybe I can do it now! Which Camara

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are we on.

We have a link up to the

rest of the world.

Come and have a

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go if you think you are hard enough!

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Nicola, you are 35 now, what is the

dream? What is the vision for the

0:22:000:22:06

rest of the career? Do you feel like

you are in your prime now?

Yeah, I

0:22:060:22:12

feel in my prime now, but I want to

unify all the belts, get all the

0:22:120:22:17

titles, and after that, I will have

achieved everything I want to do in

0:22:170:22:22

professional boxing, the boxing

world. Then I want to go on and do

0:22:220:22:27

some acting.

Oh!

Join this fella,

here.

I feel like I am in my prime

0:22:270:22:34

as well!

LAUGHTER

We have a clip of you, weirdly,

0:22:340:22:42

doing some fighting in Home Against.

Look at this and you can assess the

0:22:420:22:50

performance.

0:22:500:22:54

What are you even saying??

0:22:540:22:59

APPLAUSE

0:22:590:23:03

Not hard.

Not bad.

You caused

yourself something.

That was a

0:23:030:23:11

painful memory. When you see me

going... That is when I tore my ACL.

0:23:110:23:16

The bone came out.

Out...?!

I fell

back down and it popped in again. I

0:23:160:23:23

had to have surgery and I was out

for six months. Sorry about that.

0:23:230:23:28

The matron of a hotel was watching

earlier and sent this over.

0:23:280:23:34

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:23:350:23:37

It is a great likeness.

It is.

Let's talk a bit about sport relief,

0:23:380:23:45

Nicola. Because this year, they have

got six people, I mean, not even

0:23:450:23:53

amateurs, people that have never box

before, celebrities fighting in

0:23:530:23:56

boxing matches. You will be

commentating, tell us how it will

0:23:560:24:00

work and who is taking part.

It is

going to be really exciting. I won't

0:24:000:24:05

be in the ring for once. I will be

on the sidelines, talking about

0:24:050:24:10

everybody competing. All the matches

are going to be entertaining. I'm

0:24:100:24:15

not sure. I haven't seen any of the

training yet.

We have Helen Skelton

0:24:150:24:22

up against Camilla Thurlow.

I have

seen Helen, she has been putting it

0:24:220:24:30

on social media. She has been

training loads. She is a tough

0:24:300:24:34

cookie. Not to be messed with.

Yeah,

then we have Vanessa from the

0:24:340:24:40

Saturdays, against Hannah from S

club seven.

0:24:400:24:45

As far as the men are concerned, we

have Spencer Matthews versus Wayne

0:24:450:24:51

Bridge. Who do you think at first

glance?

Who is the one to watch?

I

0:24:510:24:56

can't really say, you know? It is a

tough one. You never know until you

0:24:560:25:02

step through the roads into the

ring. There is mental work at play

0:25:020:25:07

as well. When you get through the

ropes, there are nervous.

How many

0:25:070:25:12

rounds are they doing?

Is it two

rounds?

I don't know. Oh, well...

0:25:120:25:18

LAUGHTER

You can see the celebrity boxing

0:25:180:25:24

fight on Sport Relief on Friday

night. There is also a football hero

0:25:240:25:28

is Strictly special.

We will have an

exclusive look at John Bishop's

0:25:280:25:31

Sport Relief sketch, inspiring the

England football team to World Cup

0:25:310:25:36

glory with help from Geoff Hurst.

Sir Geoff Hurst, I should say.

0:25:360:25:46

Dele Alli! Come here. Boys, what are

you doing? What is that about? Did

0:25:510:25:55

you see what Sir Geoff Hurst did

when he scored a hat-trick in the

0:25:550:25:58

World Cup final? A little skip and a

hug from your mates. You don't need

0:25:580:26:03

any fancy handshakes. No knee

slides.

Definitely no doubts no more

0:26:030:26:11

elaborate separations.

Bombs?

We

promise.

You can't help yourself.

If

0:26:110:26:17

you want to win the World Cup money,

you have to focus on it. No fancies

0:26:170:26:21

Dove, focus on the football and get

the job done.

That it, your job is

0:26:210:26:26

done.

OK.

0:26:260:26:30

Cheers, John.

Legend.

CHEERING AND

APPLAUSE

0:26:300:26:39

Myself and the mums are having a

night out for Sport Relief.

0:26:390:26:47

Now to meet two men who have also

had a fight on their hands

0:26:470:26:51

as they take part in a remarkable

exercise to get others to really

0:26:510:26:54

I was starting to get this really

strong sense of something untoward

0:26:540:26:57

in my peripheral vision.

When I

looked in the mirror, it would be

0:26:570:27:04

like this are good, tired, beaten up

old man.

Woody dysmorphic disorder

0:27:040:27:10

and psychosis are two very different

mental health problems, but they

0:27:100:27:15

share a common link, both Direct

Impact Fund person's perceptions. In

0:27:150:27:18

one case of self image, and in the

other, of the world around them.

0:27:180:27:25

David suffers from psychosis. For

him, it was an issue for many years.

0:27:250:27:28

I started hearing and seeing things

when I was a teenager. Nothing

0:27:280:27:33

prepares you for that. The

experience I remember most and

0:27:330:27:37

strongest is the cloud.

It was dark, brooding, thundercloud

0:27:370:27:43

there in my lounge, trying to

explain what I described to me as my

0:27:430:27:51

psychotic episodes is quite

difficult and frustrating to

0:27:510:27:54

articulated.

Amartey suffered from

body dysmorphic sword offer ten

0:27:540:27:57

years. He experienced many

frustrations like David.

--

0:27:570:28:04

disorder. When I talk about seeing

big, fat, puffy bags under my eyes,

0:28:040:28:10

inflamed eyelids, that is what I

see. At my lowest point, I was

0:28:100:28:17

suicidal. I didn't see myself that

are getting better. I felt very

0:28:170:28:20

lonely. And desperate.

One of the main frustrations for

0:28:200:28:29

David and Amartey for others to

understand what they go through. For

0:28:290:28:34

the first time, we will bring to

light what they experience with the

0:28:340:28:38

help of special effects company

Rushes.

0:28:380:28:42

It would be really useful for

insight for how the cloud would look

0:28:420:28:48

when it's in the room and how it

manifests itself.

More jagged than

0:28:480:28:51

you would think of.

Not a

cumulonimbus? Not a summers day

0:28:510:28:58

cloud?

A cross between a

thundercloud in lightning and jagged

0:28:580:29:02

glass, broken Edgefield. It got to

the point where it was so

0:29:020:29:05

frightening that ran away.

Andy is

also briefed.

0:29:050:29:12

Big bags under my eyes. On a

particular day, I looked like I have

0:29:140:29:18

gone a couple of rounds with Mike

Tyson. The person that I see is

0:29:180:29:24

repulsive. I am nervous and anxious,

but I know that if I can deal with

0:29:240:29:27

that, I can deal with all the

smaller things.

Suck out all the

0:29:270:29:35

colour. It gives you the horror show

moment, something that is quite

0:29:350:29:41

scary. That's great.

Three weeks later, work on the

0:29:410:29:46

special effects is complete. For

David and Omari, today is the first

0:29:460:29:52

time they will representation of

what has previously only existed in

0:29:520:29:55

their minds.

The moment of truth,

the grand unveiling. Shall we play

0:29:550:29:59

the sequence, have a look?

That's

very impressive.

0:29:590:30:05

It gets that threatening essence.

This happened to me 25 years ago.

0:30:110:30:19

But you can live through it, there

is life after these things, this is

0:30:190:30:25

not a life sentence.

Omari arrives

with his mother, who will see for

0:30:250:30:31

the first time what her son has

experienced for so many years.

What

0:30:310:30:37

we will do is show what we have

created.

0:30:370:30:40

It is scary! Really scary!

I think

what we have created is an extreme

0:30:470:30:54

perception.

That, to me, his

monstrance.

When I heard that you

0:30:540:31:03

had BDD, I could not see what the

issue was, because you are beautiful

0:31:030:31:08

boy.

There was so much difficulty in

being able to communicate what my

0:31:080:31:16

experience was, it is great to be

sitting here...

And actually, not

0:31:160:31:20

having it any more. You don't have

to carry around the shame.

0:31:200:31:27

Omari joins us now.

0:31:270:31:32

Was that image accurate? Was that

what you could see looking in the

0:31:320:31:38

mirror, or was that more dramatic?

Definitely more dramatic. In the

0:31:380:31:43

worst times, when I first started,

the first couple of years, it was

0:31:430:31:50

closer to that, but whenever I saw

that, it really took me back. Wow!

0:31:500:31:55

It really is monstrous. Has that

helped you in anyway, see that? You

0:31:550:32:03

can tell yourself you don't look

like that, you have reversed the

0:32:030:32:08

process.

Does that help you cope?

Definitely, and even watching it

0:32:080:32:14

back, it kind of helps me see again

just how different my perception is

0:32:140:32:18

in my head compared to the reality

and if I go into the mirror and

0:32:180:32:24

experience anything negative, there

is something I can switch on...

But

0:32:240:32:30

actually, it doesn't look like that.

It must have been a huge relief for

0:32:300:32:35

your mother because it is very hard

to describe what you are seeing? To

0:32:350:32:40

have that image that she can

understand, has that helped move

0:32:400:32:44

your relationship forward?

It was so

important. We had ten years and she

0:32:440:32:52

desperately wanted to understand as

my mother that she was struggling

0:32:520:32:56

because she is my mum! And being

able to see through my eyes what I

0:32:560:33:00

was dealing with was very healing

for us. We just do not need to talk

0:33:000:33:07

about this any more.

There is no

resistance. You mentioned the early

0:33:070:33:13

years and just how extreme it was.

When was the first time that

0:33:130:33:17

happened and what was the trigger?

I

remember that very clearly, 15 years

0:33:170:33:22

old. The irony is I thought I could

be a model. I wanted to be a model.

0:33:220:33:30

You should have been! I like that!

My father got me a photo shoot for

0:33:300:33:39

my 16th birthday and it was that

morning and all of a sudden I was

0:33:390:33:44

gripped by this fear and I locked

myself in the family bathroom and I

0:33:440:33:48

was standing there... I was pulling

at my skin and feeling hideous.

0:33:480:33:55

Beating myself up. I would take at

my mother 's make up and I find some

0:33:550:34:01

concealer, foundation... This

15-year-old, trying to put this

0:34:010:34:07

make-up on myself because I was

clear there was no way I could leave

0:34:070:34:10

the house, people would laugh at me,

I could not stand in front of a

0:34:100:34:14

camera without doing something.

When

you needed to feel most confident,

0:34:140:34:20

that is when it started? Did you see

any pattern until right now?

0:34:200:34:25

Totally. How are you dealing with

that? You still have the condition?

0:34:250:34:33

In the past, specific triggers, like

going to the photo shoot... When I

0:34:330:34:41

went to university and I wanted to

be the man about town. And all of

0:34:410:34:47

those things which get mixed up with

the teenage years. Thinking about

0:34:470:34:52

this today, I know I am on national

TV, and it is just like any other

0:34:520:34:59

day. OK, I am here. That is it.

Because I do not need to have that

0:34:590:35:11

obsessiveness any more.

Thank you

for talking about it. Fascinating

0:35:110:35:14

film. If you have been affected by

what we have been speaking about you

0:35:140:35:21

have watched David in the film,

please go to the website for more

0:35:210:35:24

information support...

0:35:240:35:27

Whilst we have one of the biggest

names in British boxing with us,

0:35:270:35:31

let's celebrate another sporting

hero - a two-wheeled speed

0:35:310:35:33

demon who crashed his way

onto the evening news in the '70s

0:35:330:35:36

Here's his son, Freddie.

0:35:360:35:37

Michael, he's got a very

familiar surname.

0:35:370:35:45

My father was quite the sporting

icon in the UK but in Australia I

0:35:460:35:50

did not realise how famous Barry

Sheene was. Friends would say how

0:35:500:35:54

much of a great rider he was.

Winning the championship than two

0:35:540:35:59

years in a row, 76, 70 seven.

I

would like to win every race I am

0:35:590:36:04

riding in. To be the world champion,

to be known as the best ever has

0:36:040:36:09

been.

That was the Pic of his

career, well before I was born. He

0:36:090:36:13

was a character and my mum was a

model. When they got together people

0:36:130:36:18

said they were like posh and Becks

of the day. He was a very strong

0:36:180:36:25

character, and along with that comes

cheekiness. We had interesting

0:36:250:36:29

people staying at the house and

George Harrison was one of them. I

0:36:290:36:33

had not even heard of the Beatles!

My sister and myself had the

0:36:330:36:38

greatest childhood, when I was

three, everyone was there. When I

0:36:380:36:44

turned five I got my first motor

bike and you could not get me off of

0:36:440:36:47

it. Dad was notorious for his big

crashes. One of the side-effects was

0:36:470:36:55

you get rods your legs and he would

set off metal detectors in the

0:36:550:37:01

airport! I have travelled to the

East Midlands to see one of his

0:37:010:37:04

favourite tracks, Darlington. Look

at that. 40 years later, Suzuki have

0:37:040:37:10

brought down his 1977 by, he was

aware of World Championship on this.

0:37:100:37:18

It was styled by his original

mechanic. This is the best condition

0:37:180:37:23

I have seen this in.

The rebuild, we

got that down. We could have carried

0:37:230:37:29

on for another two or three months.

It was like restoring a masterpiece.

0:37:290:37:36

If you change the parts it is not a

masterpiece, like repainting the

0:37:360:37:39

Mona Elisa.

I have competed in

professional races but I never

0:37:390:37:44

thought I would become the next

Barry Sheene. It was just something

0:37:440:37:47

fun. Now it is my turn!

0:37:470:37:59

I will get to have a go on this and

have some fun.

0:38:020:38:12

Freddie clearly knows the heritage

that Barry has and there is nothing

0:38:140:38:18

wrong with his riding, he just never

pursued it. The crash is made Barry

0:38:180:38:22

famous. Ridiculous, for beating

yourself up for the cameras were

0:38:220:38:26

rolling, falling at 170 mph and they

screwed him back together and he

0:38:260:38:33

came back to make the double world

champion. There was not much that

0:38:330:38:36

stopped him. Very resilient and

tough. Unfortunately, cancer got

0:38:360:38:42

him. That was the awful thing about

it.

It was quite an emotional

0:38:420:38:46

experience for me to be on the same

tracks that he raced Alonso many

0:38:460:38:50

years ago. Fashionably raced on. My

father was superstitious, he loved

0:38:500:39:01

the number seven, it was on his bike

and even on his ring. His home from

0:39:010:39:06

home, this is where he stayed when

racing at the track. Dad always

0:39:060:39:12

wanted a room number that added up

to seven. He liked the look of this

0:39:120:39:16

room and he was able to get the

manager to put on the number one.

0:39:160:39:20

These are the holes. And this was

his room. My dad was quite pedantic

0:39:200:39:26

about lots of things in life, his

hair was one of the biggest. He had

0:39:260:39:32

his bottlebrush and his hairdryer

and it had to be the right one

0:39:320:39:36

otherwise it was going to be a bad

hair day. Quick pit stop with some

0:39:360:39:43

of his old colleagues and friends.

Freddie does not know but we know

0:39:430:39:51

that this is as birthday so we are

surprising him. Check this out! This

0:39:510:39:57

is from everybody.

It is great to

see that my dad is still remembered

0:39:570:40:04

and it happens to follow my

birthday, so I am very proud. Thank

0:40:040:40:08

you!

APPLAUSE.

0:40:080:40:11

Thank you, Freddie. It must be good

to see your uncle in action!

0:40:110:40:16

LAUGHTER

When I was growing up I would tell

0:40:160:40:20

everybody that Barry Sheene was my

uncle, he is not! One day I heard

0:40:200:40:24

the paper by coming to the house and

he said, Barry Sheene is your

0:40:240:40:28

brother? That is what your son is

saying! My dad said, that is right!

0:40:280:40:35

Get in! Apparently there is a biopic

of him coming out next year.

You

0:40:350:40:41

must play him! I am in my prime! You

would be perfect! I have got about

0:40:410:40:50

as many pins in my legs!

You have

specialised in playing real people.

0:40:500:40:57

You must enjoy drilling into what

makes people tick?

I love the

0:40:570:41:02

challenge when I am doing those

parts of people, knowing who that

0:41:020:41:05

is. People expect certain things...

It is scary, but then you can play

0:41:050:41:12

around with that, you can play with

that so I do enjoy that.

You have

0:41:120:41:17

just finished Good Omens for the

BBC. For those not familiar with

0:41:170:41:22

that book, tell us about what we can

expect.

This is about an angel and a

0:41:220:41:28

demon they first meet in the Garden

of Eden when Adam and Eve are

0:41:280:41:32

expelled and they become friends of

the whole of history until modern

0:41:320:41:35

day, when they work together instead

of enemies and they have to stop the

0:41:350:41:39

apocalypse. It is a comedy! David

Tennant plays the demon and I play

0:41:390:41:45

the angel. I have to have bleached

blonde hair. Underneath this brown

0:41:450:41:49

hair is bleached blonde hair!

I hope

you have a good conditioner!

I just

0:41:490:41:58

wash and go! And there are other

products available!

The filming is

0:41:580:42:02

finished. There is no part available

for Nicola? Let us get back to this

0:42:020:42:07

acting! What kind of roles do you

fancy?

I would love to play a

0:42:070:42:15

superhero or maybe a villain!

Contrasting styles! You are much too

0:42:150:42:20

smiley for a villain!

Acting

lessons? Drama school? I am doing

0:42:200:42:26

acting lessons currently. Who knows?

Maybe a boxing superhero?

There

0:42:260:42:35

might be a film of your life in

years to come. Who could Michael

0:42:350:42:38

play? In your film?

Seeing him on

the television earlier, he could

0:42:380:42:45

play my coach!

I could be the

grizzled old coach! Come on!

At the

0:42:450:42:54

moment you are planning for a

wedding?

Very good! How is that

0:42:540:42:58

going? It keeps getting delayed! We

are both boxers. We are having

0:42:580:43:06

problems getting the correct date.

We will have a competition so it has

0:43:060:43:11

been moved and moved! What about

arguments in your house? It is not

0:43:110:43:18

too bad. There are no fists flying

about!

Are you able to stay quite

0:43:180:43:25

calm in arguments? Or do you get

quite...

No!

Have you seen the state

0:43:250:43:35

of my house? If you need

relationship advice, we are moving

0:43:350:43:38

into these agony aunts.

0:43:380:43:41

Well, we met them earlier

and in a moment we'll be talking

0:43:410:43:44

live to the stars of a new BBC

series, The Secret Helpers.

0:43:440:43:49

This series helps people do with the

toughest weeks of the life-giving

0:43:490:43:52

giving them access to the wisdom of

strangers from all over the world.

0:43:520:43:56

Can you hear me? We know a little

bit about this, maybe there are some

0:43:560:44:01

things we can help you with.

Their

guiding words are beamed live into

0:44:010:44:06

your ears. Show the dedication! Day

and night through a hidden earpiece.

0:44:060:44:14

You little sleeper!

Finally! This is

so strange!

While family and friends

0:44:140:44:22

remain totally unaware of these

unseen guardian angels in your head.

0:44:220:44:27

Hello, my sweetheart!

I have to be

discreet! In this series, people

0:44:270:44:34

with life experience from all over

the world will watch live. All

0:44:340:44:37

right? And listen in to help

desperate British people in need.

0:44:370:44:47

But that little fellow on your

shoulder.

I will put onto my

0:44:470:44:51

shoulder, that is easier.

Don't

forget to tell your dad... Tell her

0:44:510:44:57

you love this so much!

Can the

worldly wisdom of new-found

0:44:570:45:02

friends...

You cannot change what

happened but today is the first day

0:45:020:45:07

of the rest of your life.

Each with

their own unique perspective on

0:45:070:45:12

life, offering us help at a time

when we the most.

Come on!

To have

0:45:120:45:19

people even caring and pushing me

more...

It is amazing. Let me hear

0:45:190:45:24

you say, thank you!

I am glad you

are watching!

I am glad you are

0:45:240:45:30

here! Be joined by Dan, Suzy, little

Henry!

He takes after his dad.

0:45:300:45:41

Welcome and congratulations on the

wedding. This is a mad concept?

0:45:410:45:46

First of all, why did you feel that

you needed help?

0:45:460:45:53

I didn't, to be honest. I got

involved via work I was doing

0:45:530:46:01

voluntarily to promote the Stroke

Association. The BBC got in touch

0:46:010:46:03

with them and they were looking for

people to come on the show and have

0:46:030:46:10

been through a difficult time. We

faced a significant event in our

0:46:100:46:14

lives, and they chose us.

You felt

the stress of planning, because it

0:46:140:46:18

is a stressful thing, planning for a

wedding, you thought the stress

0:46:180:46:21

might have an impact on you, which

means you might not make it to be

0:46:210:46:26

alter on the day?

I was concerned

that we'd had such a hard few months

0:46:260:46:30

since my strokes, I just didn't want

that stroke to be visible on our

0:46:300:46:37

wedding day. I want to be able to

stand up there. You couldn't see it,

0:46:370:46:41

it was just about us, not about the

event. The idea was dropped in at

0:46:410:46:48

the 11th hour were when the cameras

were set up, the producer said, put

0:46:480:46:52

this in your ear. That's when I

found out what concept was!

You

0:46:520:46:59

haven't seen any photos, it was just

people's voices.

Complete strangers.

0:46:590:47:06

What was the best bit of advice you

heard down the piece on the day?

The

0:47:060:47:10

best advise on the day, I was very

nervous about doing my speech. The

0:47:100:47:14

day was going to take a toll on me.

I was concerned I would get in a

0:47:140:47:18

muddle. The two New York cops, Mark

and Joe, they said, remember, it is

0:47:180:47:27

a room of friends and family, they

won't judge you however it goes. The

0:47:270:47:30

other bit of advice was for me to

put my jacket on, which sounds

0:47:300:47:36

random, but it struck a chord with

me. Before I did my speech, I put my

0:47:360:47:40

jacket on, and it is like putting

armour on, you flick into that mode

0:47:400:47:44

and it gives you confidence. It

really works.

And it hides sweat

0:47:440:47:48

patches.

It does!

Five Akani arts

are with us -- agony aunts. We have

0:47:480:48:00

had lots of view was problems and

questions in, which we will put to

0:48:000:48:04

the agony aunts now.

Lillian, this

comes from Kristina, "I am having a

0:48:040:48:10

midlife crisis, do I give up a

well-paid but stressful job to train

0:48:100:48:14

as a yoga teacher, to help people

with depression, or do I stay safe

0:48:140:48:18

in my current job and train slowly

over a few years?"

I don't know. I

0:48:180:48:25

say get the hell out of your comfort

zone. Go free yoga training and get

0:48:250:48:32

into a different profession that you

really love and you can sink your

0:48:320:48:36

teeth into.

It has worked for

Lillian. The next one is from Rachel

0:48:360:48:47

to Chiara and Gennaro. This is a

good one. "Should We stick to white

0:48:470:48:52

wine with white meat, and red wine

with red meat? Or is it OK to have a

0:48:520:48:58

Chardonnay with red meat? " Really,

she should stick with white wine on

0:48:580:49:05

the white meat and red wine on the

state.

0:49:050:49:11

The state is too structured and

heavy. The red wine is important

0:49:110:49:14

because it claims a pallet. It is

too light, the wine, for a steak. I

0:49:140:49:23

would speak on what she was doing

before.

I would go with a rose a

0:49:230:49:28

fair everything.

I go with what is

in the cupboard and I am grateful!

0:49:280:49:33

Mark and Joe, we come to you now in

New York, "I am doing a nursing

0:49:330:49:39

degree, but it is not going well.

There are so many things I would

0:49:390:49:43

like to do, like joining the police.

Should I give up nursing and pursue

0:49:430:49:47

other opportunities or stick with

nursing until the bitter end? " What

0:49:470:49:50

do you think?

Let's see. Trading

bedpans for bullets? My daughter is

0:49:500:49:57

in nursing school right now and it

is a difficult path. I don't know

0:49:570:50:01

how far you are in the process, but

stick things out, it is a noble

0:50:010:50:08

profession like police work.

Both of

them very undesirable most of the

0:50:080:50:11

time. Equally! Where your passion is

is where you should go.

Good advice.

0:50:110:50:20

Find your path and follow it.

A

quick one for Chiara and Gennaro

0:50:200:50:24

stop this is a dodgy one, "My

boyfriend Stuart hasn't taken me on

0:50:240:50:29

a date where he has paid. We have

been together for three months,

0:50:290:50:34

should I be worried? He has a good

job."

I think a woman doesn't have

0:50:340:50:39

do expect that a man pays over time.

We also love the romance of men

0:50:390:50:46

taking us out for dinner and buying

us the dinner.

0:50:460:50:55

us the dinner. Prepare a nice meal,

a dinner in a romantic dinner, but I

0:50:550:50:58

would expect some time that he pays.

There we are.

Sometimes he pays,

0:50:580:51:05

sometimes she pays. You know, when

we go for lunch, Matt Hayes. -- Matt

0:51:050:51:14

pays.

0:51:140:51:15

The Secret Helpers is on straight

after us tonight, 8pm on BBC Two.

0:51:150:51:19

Thank you for joining us!

Henry has behaved impeccably.

0:51:190:51:27

Matt Allwright's quest to celebrate

cities and villages in the A to Z

0:51:270:51:30

of Britain continues,

and tonight he's in Michael's

0:51:300:51:32

neck of the woods.

0:51:320:51:35

So aside from being the birth place

of the finest Welsh actor there is,

0:51:350:51:38

here's why we should

all visit Newport.

0:51:380:51:40

Clearly

0:51:400:51:41

I am on my way to the gateway of

South Wales, that hosted the last

0:51:420:51:47

Ryder Cup and the Nato summit.

Newport in Gwent is important. It is

0:51:470:51:53

a grisly wet day. I am heading to

Celtic Manor.

One of the things I

0:51:530:52:02

remember most was the arrival of

President Obama.

President Obama

0:52:020:52:05

stated?

This very large.

This is the

presidential bedroom.

0:52:050:52:15

Company. Get Angela Merkel on the

phone. Angela, we are having a

0:52:150:52:21

barbecue, come over. No, we've got

loads of frankfurters.

0:52:210:52:25

Sadly, this is out of my price rent,

so we go into town to see if the

0:52:250:52:30

locals can recommend anywhere to

stay and for some lunch.

Variety

0:52:300:52:37

wise.

There are not that many places

in Newport.

If you think of

0:52:370:52:42

something, pop back and see me.

Yes.

I might at that stage be in the chip

0:52:420:52:47

shop.

That is probably your best

bet.

0:52:470:52:50

The chippy it is.

Established in 1888. Nice to meet

0:52:500:52:56

you.

How have you managed to keep a

0:52:560:53:01

family business?

With great

difficulty.

Do you Doucoure soars?

0:53:010:53:05

We have three curry sauces.

0:53:050:53:12

That is the fruity curry sauce, the

Chinese curry sauce, that is clearly

0:53:140:53:19

mushy peas, not guacamole. This one

is?

Irish.

Irish curry. Thank you

0:53:190:53:26

very much.

I like that. Irish curry. I have

0:53:260:53:33

never been anywhere other than

Newport that has a chip shop with

0:53:330:53:37

three different types of curry

sauce. That is a win in Newport.

0:53:370:53:44

Alas, it's still raining. The local

record shop will keep me drive for

0:53:440:53:48

an hour or so. And I love vinyl.

It turns out that a Newport musical

0:53:480:53:54

legend hangs out here, too. Graham

the bear from Goldie Looking Chain

0:53:540:54:02

Centres Now.

I Have Dressed Down.

0:54:020:54:08

I Should Get You In A Tracksuit.

0:54:080:54:12

I am going to briefly be a member.

0:54:130:54:17

If you want a real man, you knows

it's me...

That was kind of awesome.

0:54:170:54:24

Now, I've got to find somewhere to

stay. The picture of this guesthouse

0:54:240:54:30

looks good, five stars on Trip

Advisor. And a Welsh breakfast

0:54:300:54:37

cooked to perfection.

Do you have any rooms for tonight?

0:54:370:54:41

First time lucky. How are you doing,

I'm Matt. Can I come in?

Come on in.

0:54:410:54:51

Fantastic, what time is breakfast?

0:54:510:54:56

Good morning, everyone. Breakfast is

in as requested, two

0:54:560:55:06

in as requested, two sausage, two X.

Three sources.

0:55:060:55:09

The weather is no better than

yesterday, but that will not stop me

0:55:090:55:13

as I conquer a small section of the

Wales coast path. It is pretty

0:55:130:55:17

deserted, though.

0:55:170:55:19

Snack... Shop...

0:55:200:55:23

I need coffee. Is this the right

place? It looks like someone's house

0:55:230:55:30

to me.

Look at your months. Nice to

meet you.

What is your name?

Wendy.

0:55:300:55:36

Can I get a cup of coffee, milk and

sugar. We have a tray of cakes. This

0:55:360:55:44

was my husband's garage.

You have converted it. Has he got

0:55:440:55:49

any garage left? Thank you for

having us.

You are welcome.

0:55:490:55:57

Newport, you have been wet but warm

and were proving once again that

0:55:570:56:01

what matters is not places but

faces. Lovely people.

0:56:010:56:07

Matt all right in a track he top

looking good. Thank you to Michael

0:56:080:56:14

and Nicola for joining us! CHEERING

AND APPLAUSE

0:56:140:56:17

Belleau

0:56:170:56:18

We'll be back tomorrow

with Tim Rice, but before then,

0:56:180:56:20

with Tim Rice, but before then,

0:56:200:56:21

from her debut album

'Speak Your Mind,' here's

0:56:210:56:24

Anne Marie singing 'Friends' -

her latest single with Marshmello.

0:56:240:56:26

have a lovely evening.

Goodbye.

0:56:260:56:30

# Ooooh-oh, ooooh-woh

0:56:300:56:31

# You say you love me,

I say you crazy

0:56:310:56:33

# We're nothing more than friends

0:56:330:56:34

# You're not my lover,

more like a brother

0:56:340:56:38

# I known you since

we were like ten, yeah

0:56:380:56:43

# Don't mess it up, talking that...

0:56:430:56:45

# Only gonna push me

away, that's it!

0:56:450:56:47

# When you say you love me,

that make me crazy

0:56:470:56:50

# Here we go again

0:56:500:56:51

# Don't go look at me

with that look in your eye

0:56:510:56:56

# You really ain't

going away without a fight

0:56:560:57:00

# You can't be reasoned with,

I'm done being polite

0:57:000:57:03

# I've told you one, two, three,

four, five, six thousand times

0:57:030:57:08

# Haven't I made it obvious?

0:57:080:57:10

# Haven't I made it clear?

0:57:100:57:12

# Want me to spell it out for you?

0:57:120:57:15

# F-R-I-E-N-D-S

0:57:150:57:17

# Haven't I made it obvious?

0:57:170:57:20

# Have you got no shame?

0:57:210:57:23

# You looking insane #

Turning up at my door

0:57:230:57:26

# It's two in the morning,

the rain is pouring

0:57:260:57:28

# Haven't we been here before?

0:57:280:57:32

# Don't mess it up, talking that...

0:57:320:57:34

# Only gonna push me away,

that's it!

0:57:340:57:38

# Have you got no shame?

0:57:380:57:39

# You looking insane

0:57:390:57:41

# Here we go again

0:57:410:57:42

# So don't go look at me

with that look in your eye

0:57:420:57:45

# You really ain't going

away without a fight

0:57:450:57:48

# You can't be reasoned with,

I'm done being polite

0:57:480:57:54

# I've told you one, two, three,

four, five, six thousand times

0:57:540:58:02

# Haven't I made it obvious?

Haven't I made it?

0:58:040:58:06

# Haven't I made it clear?

Haven't I made it clear?

0:58:060:58:09

# Want me to spell it out for you?

0:58:090:58:11

# F-R-I-E-N-D-S

0:58:110:58:12

# F-R-I-E-N-D-S

0:58:120:58:15

# That's how you spell "friends"

0:58:150:58:16

# F-R-I-E-N-D-S

0:58:160:58:17

# Get that inside your head

0:58:170:58:21

# No, no, yeah, uh, ahh

0:58:210:58:24

# F-R-I-E-N-D-S

0:58:240:58:28

# We're just friends

0:58:280:58:29

# So don't go look at me

with that look in your eye

0:58:290:58:33

# You really ain't going

nowhere without a fight

0:58:330:58:40

# You can't be reasoned with,

I'm done being polite

0:58:400:58:44

# I've told you one, two, three,

four, five, six thousand times

0:58:440:58:51

# Haven't I made it obvious?

Have I not made it obvious?

0:58:510:58:54

# Haven't I made it clear?

Yeah, I made it very clear

0:58:540:58:56

# Want me to spell it out for you?

Yo

0:58:560:58:59

# F-R-I-E-N-D-S

I said F-R-I-E-N-D-S

0:58:590:59:06

Nicola Adams and Michael Sheen join Matt Baker and Alex Jones on the sofa. Plus a live performance by Anne-Marie.


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