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Hello, and welcome to
The One Show, with Alex Jones.
And Matt Baker.
Tonight, we're remembering
Donald Campbell and his attempt
to break the world speed
record in 1967.
That's because his beloved Bluebird,
which sadly sank that day,
will very soon be taking
to the water again,
thanks to this man...
And his team. This is Will. -- Bild.
He's with us tonight,
and so is Donald's daughter, Gina.
Now, to two peope who both
have a lot of love for
another year - 1993.
In the year that Spielberg
released Jurassic Park,
one of tonight's guests
met his comedy other-half in
a Tex-Mex restaurant in Cricklewood.
The other - well, that's
the year she was born.
Talk about making you feel old!
Fast forward to 2018,
and they're both starring
in Spielberg's latest epic -
Ready Player One.
It's Simon Pegg and Olivia Cooke!
Welcome to you both, good evening!
It was the premier last night.
Simon, you just told us it was the
very first time that you've seen it.
I saved it up for that event. It's
nice when you are in a film, a
premier is kind of like work, it's
like going to work. So I thought I
would save the film and watch it
with my family, and it was
What did your daughter
big? Because they will tell the
She absolutely loved it. It's
interesting, she's eight, she's a
bit younger than Olivia, would you
believe it is and! --?!. She said,
badly, it's my second favourite film
There's no better
praise than that!
She's all about
Jack and Rose! You know, there were
things in there that she wouldn't
pick up on, some of the references
to the past, but it didn't seem to
matter at all, you know, she was
just captivated the whole time.
is a critique of the digital world.
There's a big backlash under way
today against probably the biggest
digital company of all -
Customers are leaving in droves.
Where do you both stand on this, are
you into social media?
I'm not, I'm
a technophobe, I found it
terrifying. I have a pin to rest
board, I like looking at kitchens --
I have a Pinterest board. But it's
It's a big deal, and
the weird thing is, part of this
film is about a big corporate
company harvesting people's
identities for games! We have made
the most topical film of the year!
Of the moment! It really is, it's
like The One Show, it's that
We will talk more about the
Time now for that tale of a tragedy
that took place at 300mph.
And the story of a painstakingly
faithful restoration that's gone
at a much slower pace.
When I was a little lad in the
mid-19 60s, my friends and I all had
one of these. It's called the Tory's
model of -- be called the toy's
model of Campbell's land speed
Bluebird, winning the world record
in 1964. I remember the day that he
was killed on Coniston. Campbell had
long been a national hero. And the
news of his death said the country
into a state of national shock. --
sent the country.
the man who made the speed, is dead.
On the cold, still waters of Lake
Coniston, 45-year-old Campbell was
making an attempt on the world speed
record, which he held.
record, which he held. 5000 years
ago, they said, let us now praise
famous men. And in Lake Coniston now
lay the body of a famous man, who is
among the bravest of the brave.
Smith and his team of polity are
engineers, craftsmen and enthusiasts
are about to finish a completed
faithful restoration of Donald
Campbell's jet powered hydra blade,
Bluebird G7 -- hydroplane. This
summer, it will be ready to go back
on the water for the first time in
more than 51 years. Why did you
become fascinated with Campbell and
It was a song.
It was out of this world.
in the middle of this
a recorded loop, which is a complete
accident. And I read the lyric
sheet. This Campbell chap. Basically
all it meant to me as a diver was,
In 2001, built and a
group of diving friends after
research lasting more than four
years located the wreck of Bluebird
and the remains of Donald Campbell.
What was the first indication that
you'd got that you'd found him?
first visible one was a sonar image.
There was something in the right
place with a trail of bits coming
off it. We went to the bottom, and
my Finn went in piece of split
aluminium like that. It was like
somebody had grabbed my foot, and it
was this piece of material here.
Bill and his team raised the bird to
the surface. And nobody but Bill is
prepared to take on the mammoth job
of what was regarded as the
became our baby. It was, right, OK,
now we're going to main view. We
started stripping bits out and
looking in places that have looked
at in many years. In terms of the
condition, I was amazed by what good
condition it was in.
This is the
original, the partially restored
tail fin. And, you know, to say it
has spent 34 years in 150 feet of
water in the bottle of Coniston, it
is remarkably well preserved. -- in
the bottom of Coniston. What
proportion of what we are looking at
here, Bill, is actually original?
Pretty much all of it. The
instruments are new. But for
example, these panels, all of this.
They are original? You've just
straightened it out and tidied it
Yes, from the scraps to the
And, Bill, where enough to
need go to buy a jet engine, or four
When they came from
Colorado, they lost the paperwork
and couldn't fly it. We bought
something from a guy who had his own
fleet of aircraft and this was a
spur, we did a deal with him.
Bluebird's restoration may be
inspiring a new generation of
engineers. Bill's daughter Emily,
I would like to know
how to mend things like daddy and be
creative with it.
What the next
thing that you are really looking
forward to with Bluebird?
excited for August, because then we
can do a test on the water and see
if it's OK.
This is a privilege. And
a boyhood dream fulfilled! Oh, boy!
Thank you very much.
Do you need a pilot?!
We saw Andy fulfilling a childhood
dream, getting in and sitting in the
Bluebird. Of course, he is not going
to drive it. But who is, Bill?
have a record breaker called Ted
Walsh, a very experienced man, he is
qualified for the job.
brilliant to see how far you've
come. I first met you both about
eight years ago in the midst of this
project. It's super to see how it is
coming along. Gina, I want to take
you back to the date when you heard
that bill had found a Bluebird, he
was 17 when you lost your father.
What was it like, all of that,
coming flooding back when you heard
that this was potentially going to
happen was blocked it was an amazing
feeling. You know,
from that day on
this project has moved forward. Bill
and has wonderful dedicated
volunteers up in North Shields have
done a remarkable job in restoring
the boat. I mean, she's going to
look better when we see her next
time don't you probably ever looked
in her life. But for me it's going
to be, you know, you will have to
ask the upper time, Matt, make sure
that you come along, we will pick
some nice weather for you! Because I
don't know how I feel, you know,
until I see it, you know, having
seen my dad in there always, and
then to see Ted, whom I have huge
admiration for. It's going to be
amazing, actually, it's going to be
amazing, let's be positive.
be easy to look at footage of your
dad. What is the next step of
getting Bluebird out onto the water?
We are off to Loch Fad NB Isle of
Bute to train the crew, because
nobody knows how to handle this
machine, we need to learn how to get
it on and off the water. Ultimately
we are hoping to display the boat at
speed on the water hope we at
Coniston as the final closing of the
Circle before she goes on public
That will be such a big day
or you, Bill, but also for you,
Gina. There must be a movie in this,
What is the not count for 300
mph, do you know that?
It is 330.
drove a speedboat on a film at 20
And it felt pretty fast!
fast, absolutely! It was a twin
engine speed boat on the river
Seine, and it did feel fast. I can't
imagine what 300 mph on water must
If you jump out of the
boat at over 60 mph, you might just
as well jump out of a motorcar, you
will hit with the same impact.
So, don't do it!
Well, I was going
to do it tomorrow! I must call
someone and get that cancelled!
increase the insurance! How do you
put into context 22 years of your
life? Shortly, hopefully, it's going
to come to a magnificent end.
just been like a career, only
without any wages!
We heard your daughter Emily, she's
been born into it and she's very
excited about this day in August
when all of your work is going to
come into fruition.
I've got another
daughter called Lucy, she has never
had a Gaby on Saturday since she was
born, she is 12! -- a daddy. I might
get to retire eventually.
And who is
this little teddy bear?
It was my
dad's mascot. When we saw that fatal
run, he was tucked under my dad's
seat, but he popped to the surface,
he jumped ship straightaway, whereas
Bill didn't find my dad for many
decades later, but this little fella
Will he be on board was
blog you know, one has to question
how lucky he really is! Maybe he
will watch from the sidelines!
from the cafe!
Sounds like a good
It has been great to see you
both again, let's hope we can hook
up on that day, it will be
Now, Simon and Olivia,
time to talk about Ready Player One.
This should get us in the mood.
I just came here to escape. But I've
found something much bigger than
myself. I've found my friends.
I found love. And now, people have
lost their lives.
No, no, no,.
Find him. Welcome to the
It's set in a future world
so horrible and messed up that
everyone uses virtual reality
to escape it.
Is set in 2045. But that's sort of
from the Cambridge Analytica thing,
it is very topical, because it
doesn't feel like science fiction to
me, it's more like future fact. I
think we will get to that point when
virtual reality is somewhere that we
can escape from the real world. If
we don't sort out the present,
that's where people are going to
want to go. But things are getting
there. We've got the virtual
reality, but it's the physical
injury should... -- interaction we
are going to have to figure out. My
watch just tapped me a second ago
when the full was on, I had a text
from my mum saying, I did know you
want The One Show! When that gets
even more advanced, shall be able to
punch me in the face!
play Artemis. As part of the plot,
your character is looking for
something specific, isn't she?
she is an Eric Hunter, which they
abbreviated to a name. -- an Eric
Hunter. She is infamous in the
OASIS, an online virtual world that
everybody escapes too, for being
quite ruthless in her hand. She is
trying to stop by why, this
corporate company, from winning this
egg which will help them gain
control of the OASIS -- she is
trying to stop a corporate company.
They want to. Taxing and charging
everybody to enter this free haven.
The key to tracking down that Easter
egg is hidden in the memories
of the creator of the game played
by Mark Rylance.
And Simon, it's in those
memories that we find your
character, Ogden Morrow.
Let's take a look.
Like an invention comes with
responsibilities you didn't ask for.
All right, if you make something
people want or need, it's up to you
to set the limits. You have to make
I don't want to make any
I'm a dreamer.
We created something
beautiful, Jim, but it's changed,
it's not a game any more.
finished? I liked how things were
when they were, when it was a game.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Interesting hearing you talk there.
It is amazing to work with Mark
Rylance, here's a great actor.
Steven Spielberg directed this, and
we understand that scene was a
problem for him. There are so many
things going on.
In that scene, the
character is in an archive of the
life of James Halliday, the inventor
of the Oasis, and he is trying to
set his life for clues. And there
are lots of moments from security
cameras that he can go back through.
And Steven wanted to shoot the scene
as if it could be scrolled and moved
and zoomed in on like on a tablet.
So he went on holiday to the
weekend, he went to Italy on a boat
or something, like he does.
And he came up
with the idea to shoot the scene
with an ellipse of eight cameras
running at the same time onto macro
different sides. There was a close
and a wide and these eight cameras
in a semicircle. Mark and I did the
scene however many times, and then
digitally, they stitched all the
images together so you can spin it
around and see it like this. And
that was him at the weekend, coming
up with that.
Gosh. So your
character, this old bloke, is he a
Jobs or a Wozniak?
He is kind of a
Jobs. There are elements of the
Wozniak thing. James Halliday and
Ogden Morrow like Wozniak and Jobs.
Steve Wozniak was the brains,
Steve Wozniak was the brains, and
Jobs is the face. So we are like
that. But there are elements of
both. The writer of the book took
those as well as Bill Gates as
Olivia, let's see you
in action. You are running from the
evil corporation we were talking
This leads right to the
I'm behind you, go
now. Wait, the Oasis needs you. I'm
going to delay them. You will
forgive me for this, I promise.
Lots of actors in the film couldn't
believe how brilliant your American
Is it true that
Steven Spielberg kept throwing
little lines at you that you had not
rehearsed, going, can you throw this
I had a wonderful dialect coach
called Tom Jones, not the Tom Jones.
And we worked tirelessly on the
accent. But the script was
ever-changing and Steven Spielberg
would be like, say this. And then
one day, it is on in the film any
more, but he decided to add this
commercial in which was an 80s
commercial from America where he
wanted me to do a southern American
accent to this jingle for a candy
bar. And I was like, Steven, I'm
from Oldham. That is difficult for
me. I can't just pull it out of my
That Oldham thing comes out all
the time. But it is great.
you describe Steven Spielberg's
said? Growing up as aspiring actors,
one of the ultimate things is to be
directed by Steven Spielberg. So how
does he direct you?
It's just the
greatest place on earth for me. I
grew up watching Steven's movies. I
saw Raiders when I was ten. That was
the first Steven Spielberg film I
saw. I hugged him a little too much.
He is a hugger, but I kind of follow
him around. In between shots, he
will say, I will say what was it
like making Jaws, and he would just
tell you. And he has stories that
are mind-blowing because he has
things from premises of your
favourite movies. And he is a lovely
Do you have a little in
with him, because he would make a
He is such a raconteur.
All his stories are amazing.
talk later. Ready Player One is in
cinemas from next Thursday.
Towards the end of last year,
the Dollery family emailed us to ask
for help in highlighting a problem
they were facing in dealing
with what they saw as
This is what happened next.
Dad was a very intelligent, very
kind, very thoughtful, unbelievably
understanding man. He was my buddy,
my best friend. We just liked to be
with each other.
A few weeks before
he died, I remember saying to him
how contented I felt with my life.
On the 18th of June 2015, Andrea
Dollery and her husband Ian were
getting ready to go on holiday.
Their daughter Grace had returned
home to look after the house while
they were away. That evening, Ian
went to his garage to let the dogs
out when they heard a scream.
to the back of the house, where my
dad was, and my dad had collapsed.
And the attacker was stood over him.
Andrea immediately threw herself at
the attacker, but he turned on her.
I stumbled backwards and fell over,
and he was over me with the knife.
had grabbed a broom after I heard my
dad scream. Have I not, Mum probably
wouldn't be here.
Grace managed to
fight off the attacker with the
broom. Ian died from multiple stab
wounds on his way to hospital. It
was an unprovoked random attack in
their own home by a complete
stranger to them.
I mean, to take
everything away from someone in a
matter of minutes for no reason...
Life is not life, it's just an
existence. I don't even really want
Blameless victims like Grace and
Andrea are entitled to compensation
from the state from the Criminal
Injuries Compensation Authority, or
see ICA, to claim costs. For a crime
such as this, they could expect to
receive payments from the CICA of
£20,000 to £30,000 each. However,
research shows that what the CICA
pays out in compensation has
dramatically reduced in recent
years. In 2012, they paid out £450
million. Last year, that went down
to £143 million. That is three times
less. Grace and Andrea began the
complicated process of claiming
compensation following Ian's death,
but they were soon overwhelmed with
frustration at a system they felt
was working against them.
seemed to take no account of the
mental state that we have been in.
The CICA claimed they did not have
the paperwork, sending things out
twice or asking for the same
Not only that,
they say for each separate part of
the claim, they had to speak to a
explaining the murder to every
single person you speak to. It is
giving out the dates when he
witnessed your dad being murdered
over and over again.
totally lacking in any compassion,
empathy or humanity.
have passed since Ian's death and
they are still waiting for some
payments, said today we have
arranged for them to meet Baroness
Newlove. In her role as victims
commissioner, she promotes the
interests of victims and witnesses,
and she has the power to influence
government. How are you feeling?
husband Gary was killed by a gang of
youths outside their home in 2007.
She is launching a review into the
CICA and wants to hear from victims
about their experiences.
I was upset
and angry that I have to go through
all of this to prove that I have
Mum is one of the
strongest people I have ever known.
She threw herself at my dad's
attacker there handed, and she is
struggling with it.
This meant to be
a system that is working in your
favour, and yet it is like they are
There are more and more
people writing to me with the same
kind of emotion that Grace and
Andrea are showing here. It saddens
me to sit here, but it also makes me
more passionate to get involved with
all the other victims and to make it
The Grace, something that
would help is a single point of
contact at the CICA.
It is very common
sense, so that is why I am
passionate about an advocate who
would be that individual contact who
would take the baton right the way
I am really glad I made the
effort to come on the show and do
something about it, because... We
feel we have been let down a lot and
this is the first sign we have seen
that something might change. I'm not
asking for a medal or any
recognition, I'm just asking for a
bit of money so that I can get on
with my life. That is what this
money is meant to be full, it's so
that it can help you carry on. So
why are they making you fight for
it? It means that those people who
don't have the fight in them aren't
going to get anywhere. And how is
Well, Andrea and Grace have had
something of a breakthrough
since we filmed with them.
Andrea has now received an offer
for the maximum payment possible
for mental health injuries.
Grace is in the final
stages of her claim,
and hopes to receive an offer soon.
We have a statement from the CICA,
who send their deepest sympathies
to the Dollery family.
They told us they've worked hard
to speed up their system,
including bringing more of it online
and employing in-house
Where a bereaved relative claims
for mental injury, they are required
to obtain a clinical prognosis
before awarding compensation,
which can lead to delays
beyond their control.
Ultimately, they say their aim
is to ensure victims receive
the maximum compensation they're
entitled to, and their needs remain
at the heart of everything they do.
Please go to our website if you have
had an experience with the CICA.
Baroness Newlove would like to hear
Olivia, I would love to talk to you
about Vanity Fair. You play Becky
Sharp, a sassy, manipulative social
climber. What can you tell us?
I play me, really! It is
on in the autumn. The last I heard,
it would be on in September on ITV,
prime-time Sunday night telly. My
mum is dead happy.
What accent are
you using for that?
Is that harder or
Harder. With a northern
accent, it is easier to access the
American accent. But you speak more
towards the front of your mouth for
a posh voice, which is hard for me.
We shall see.
You use your lips a
Yes, I do.
And Simon, you
are producing these days. You have a
production company with Nick Frost.
Yes, we have a film coming out later
this year called slaughterhouse
rules, which is a horror comedy
directed by Crispian Mills who was
in Pulisic and is the grandson of
John Mills and the son of Hayley
Mills. And we are writing a show
called Truth Seekers, which is a
paranormal investigation comedy.
Come back soon. And bring Steven
Spielberg with you. Fax to both of
you. It's been lovely. We will be
back tomorrow with Michael Sheen and
Just before we go, tomorrow
is World Down's Syndrome Day.
And we think this is
all you need to know.
# And all along I believed
I would find you
# Time has
brought your heart to me
# I have loved you
for a thousand years
# I'll love you for a thousand
# One step closer
# One step closer
# I have died every day
waiting for you
don't be afraid
# I have loved
you for a thousand years
# I'll love
you for a thousand more
# And all along I believed
I would find you
# Time has
brought your heart to me
# I have
loved you for a thousand years
# I'll love you for a thousand more.
Simon Pegg and Olivia Cooke join Matt Baker and Alex Jones to talk about their roles in the new Steven Spielberg film Ready Player One. Half a century after Donald Campbell died on Coniston Water during his water speed record attempt, the show meets the man who spent over a decade recovering and restoring Campbell's Bluebird K7. Plus Anita Rani asks why the process of claiming from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority is so complex and Marty Jopson puts cola to an alternative use - as a household cleaner.