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20/03/2018

Simon Pegg and Olivia Cooke join Matt Baker and Alex Jones to talk about their roles in the new Steven Spielberg film Ready Player One.


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Hello, and welcome to

The One Show, with Alex Jones.

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And Matt Baker.

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Tonight, we're remembering

Donald Campbell and his attempt

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to break the world speed

record in 1967.

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That's because his beloved Bluebird,

which sadly sank that day,

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will very soon be taking

to the water again,

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thanks to this man...

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And his team. This is Will. -- Bild.

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-- Bild.

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He's with us tonight,

and so is Donald's daughter, Gina.

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Now, to two peope who both

have a lot of love for

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another year - 1993.

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In the year that Spielberg

released Jurassic Park,

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one of tonight's guests

met his comedy other-half in

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a Tex-Mex restaurant in Cricklewood.

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Romantic!

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The other - well, that's

the year she was born.

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LAUGHTER

Talk about making you feel old!

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Fast forward to 2018,

and they're both starring

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in Spielberg's latest epic -

Ready Player One.

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It's Simon Pegg and Olivia Cooke!

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APPLAUSE.

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Welcome to you both, good evening!

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It was the premier last night.

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Simon, you just told us it was the

very first time that you've seen it.

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I saved it up for that event. It's

nice when you are in a film, a

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premier is kind of like work, it's

like going to work. So I thought I

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would save the film and watch it

with my family, and it was

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rectangular.

What did your daughter

big? Because they will tell the

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truth!

She absolutely loved it. It's

interesting, she's eight, she's a

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bit younger than Olivia, would you

believe it is and! --?!. She said,

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badly, it's my second favourite film

after Titanic!

There's no better

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praise than that!

She's all about

Jack and Rose! You know, there were

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things in there that she wouldn't

pick up on, some of the references

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to the past, but it didn't seem to

matter at all, you know, she was

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just captivated the whole time.

It

is a critique of the digital world.

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There's a big backlash under way

today against probably the biggest

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digital company of all -

Facebook.

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Customers are leaving in droves.

Where do you both stand on this, are

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you into social media?

I'm not, I'm

a technophobe, I found it

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terrifying. I have a pin to rest

board, I like looking at kitchens --

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I have a Pinterest board. But it's

just magnets!

It's a big deal, and

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the weird thing is, part of this

film is about a big corporate

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company harvesting people's

identities for games! We have made

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the most topical film of the year!

Of the moment! It really is, it's

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like The One Show, it's that

topical!

We will talk more about the

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film.

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Time now for that tale of a tragedy

that took place at 300mph.

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And the story of a painstakingly

faithful restoration that's gone

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at a much slower pace.

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When I was a little lad in the

mid-19 60s, my friends and I all had

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one of these. It's called the Tory's

model of -- be called the toy's

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model of Campbell's land speed

Bluebird, winning the world record

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in 1964. I remember the day that he

was killed on Coniston. Campbell had

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long been a national hero. And the

news of his death said the country

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into a state of national shock. --

sent the country.

Donald Campbell,

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the man who made the speed, is dead.

On the cold, still waters of Lake

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Coniston, 45-year-old Campbell was

making an attempt on the world speed

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record, which he held.

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record, which he held. 5000 years

ago, they said, let us now praise

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famous men. And in Lake Coniston now

lay the body of a famous man, who is

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among the bravest of the brave.

Bill

Smith and his team of polity are

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engineers, craftsmen and enthusiasts

are about to finish a completed

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faithful restoration of Donald

Campbell's jet powered hydra blade,

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Bluebird G7 -- hydroplane. This

summer, it will be ready to go back

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on the water for the first time in

more than 51 years. Why did you

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become fascinated with Campbell and

Bluebird K7?

It was a song.

Which

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song?

It was out of this world.

And

in the middle of this

track, there's

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a recorded loop, which is a complete

accident. And I read the lyric

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sheet. This Campbell chap. Basically

all it meant to me as a diver was,

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shipwrecked.

In 2001, built and a

group of diving friends after

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research lasting more than four

years located the wreck of Bluebird

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and the remains of Donald Campbell.

What was the first indication that

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you'd got that you'd found him?

The

first visible one was a sonar image.

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There was something in the right

place with a trail of bits coming

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off it. We went to the bottom, and

my Finn went in piece of split

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aluminium like that. It was like

somebody had grabbed my foot, and it

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was this piece of material here.

Bill and his team raised the bird to

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the surface. And nobody but Bill is

prepared to take on the mammoth job

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of what was regarded as the

impossible restoration.

It then

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became our baby. It was, right, OK,

now we're going to main view. We

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started stripping bits out and

looking in places that have looked

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at in many years. In terms of the

condition, I was amazed by what good

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condition it was in.

This is the

original, the partially restored

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tail fin. And, you know, to say it

has spent 34 years in 150 feet of

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water in the bottle of Coniston, it

is remarkably well preserved. -- in

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the bottom of Coniston. What

proportion of what we are looking at

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here, Bill, is actually original?

Pretty much all of it. The

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instruments are new. But for

example, these panels, all of this.

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They are original? You've just

straightened it out and tidied it

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up?

Yes, from the scraps to the

path.

And, Bill, where enough to

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need go to buy a jet engine, or four

jet engines?!

When they came from

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Colorado, they lost the paperwork

and couldn't fly it. We bought

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something from a guy who had his own

fleet of aircraft and this was a

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spur, we did a deal with him.

Bluebird's restoration may be

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inspiring a new generation of

engineers. Bill's daughter Emily,

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for example.

I would like to know

how to mend things like daddy and be

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creative with it.

What the next

thing that you are really looking

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forward to with Bluebird?

I'm

excited for August, because then we

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can do a test on the water and see

if it's OK.

This is a privilege. And

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a boyhood dream fulfilled! Oh, boy!

Thank you very much.

You're more

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than welcome.

Do you need a pilot?!

No!

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LAUGHTER

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Welcome, both.

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We saw Andy fulfilling a childhood

dream, getting in and sitting in the

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Bluebird. Of course, he is not going

to drive it. But who is, Bill?

We

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have a record breaker called Ted

Walsh, a very experienced man, he is

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qualified for the job.

It's

brilliant to see how far you've

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come. I first met you both about

eight years ago in the midst of this

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project. It's super to see how it is

coming along. Gina, I want to take

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you back to the date when you heard

that bill had found a Bluebird, he

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was 17 when you lost your father.

What was it like, all of that,

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coming flooding back when you heard

that this was potentially going to

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happen was blocked it was an amazing

feeling. You know,

from that day on

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this project has moved forward. Bill

and has wonderful dedicated

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volunteers up in North Shields have

done a remarkable job in restoring

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the boat. I mean, she's going to

look better when we see her next

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time don't you probably ever looked

in her life. But for me it's going

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to be, you know, you will have to

ask the upper time, Matt, make sure

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that you come along, we will pick

some nice weather for you! Because I

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don't know how I feel, you know,

until I see it, you know, having

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seen my dad in there always, and

then to see Ted, whom I have huge

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admiration for. It's going to be

amazing, actually, it's going to be

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amazing, let's be positive.

It can't

be easy to look at footage of your

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dad. What is the next step of

getting Bluebird out onto the water?

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We are off to Loch Fad NB Isle of

Bute to train the crew, because

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nobody knows how to handle this

machine, we need to learn how to get

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it on and off the water. Ultimately

we are hoping to display the boat at

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speed on the water hope we at

Coniston as the final closing of the

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Circle before she goes on public

display.

That will be such a big day

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or you, Bill, but also for you,

Gina. There must be a movie in this,

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Simon!

What is the not count for 300

mph, do you know that?

It is 330.

I

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drove a speedboat on a film at 20

knots!

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LAUGHTER

And it felt pretty fast!

That felt

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fast, absolutely! It was a twin

engine speed boat on the river

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Seine, and it did feel fast. I can't

imagine what 300 mph on water must

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feel like.

If you jump out of the

boat at over 60 mph, you might just

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as well jump out of a motorcar, you

will hit with the same impact.

Out!

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So, don't do it!

Well, I was going

to do it tomorrow! I must call

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someone and get that cancelled!

Or

increase the insurance! How do you

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put into context 22 years of your

life? Shortly, hopefully, it's going

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to come to a magnificent end.

It's

just been like a career, only

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without any wages!

LAUGHTER

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We heard your daughter Emily, she's

been born into it and she's very

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excited about this day in August

when all of your work is going to

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come into fruition.

I've got another

daughter called Lucy, she has never

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had a Gaby on Saturday since she was

born, she is 12! -- a daddy. I might

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get to retire eventually.

And who is

this little teddy bear?

It was my

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dad's mascot. When we saw that fatal

run, he was tucked under my dad's

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seat, but he popped to the surface,

he jumped ship straightaway, whereas

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Bill didn't find my dad for many

decades later, but this little fella

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was there.

Will he be on board was

blog you know, one has to question

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how lucky he really is! Maybe he

will watch from the sidelines!

Watch

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from the cafe!

Sounds like a good

idea!

It has been great to see you

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both again, let's hope we can hook

up on that day, it will be

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wonderful.

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Now, Simon and Olivia,

time to talk about Ready Player One.

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This should get us in the mood.

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I just came here to escape. But I've

found something much bigger than

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myself. I've found my friends.

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I found love. And now, people have

lost their lives.

No, no, no,.

This

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is war!

Find him. Welcome to the

rebellion. Go

APPLAUSE

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Wow, so...

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It's set in a future world

so horrible and messed up that

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everyone uses virtual reality

to escape it.

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Is set in 2045. But that's sort of

already happening!

Absolutely! Aside

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from the Cambridge Analytica thing,

it is very topical, because it

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doesn't feel like science fiction to

me, it's more like future fact. I

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think we will get to that point when

virtual reality is somewhere that we

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can escape from the real world. If

we don't sort out the present,

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that's where people are going to

want to go. But things are getting

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there. We've got the virtual

reality, but it's the physical

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injury should... -- interaction we

are going to have to figure out. My

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watch just tapped me a second ago

when the full was on, I had a text

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from my mum saying, I did know you

want The One Show! When that gets

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even more advanced, shall be able to

punch me in the face!

Olivia, you

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play Artemis. As part of the plot,

your character is looking for

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something specific, isn't she?

Yes,

she is an Eric Hunter, which they

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abbreviated to a name. -- an Eric

Hunter. She is infamous in the

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OASIS, an online virtual world that

everybody escapes too, for being

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quite ruthless in her hand. She is

trying to stop by why, this

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corporate company, from winning this

egg which will help them gain

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control of the OASIS -- she is

trying to stop a corporate company.

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They want to. Taxing and charging

everybody to enter this free haven.

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The key to tracking down that Easter

egg is hidden in the memories

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of the creator of the game played

by Mark Rylance.

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And Simon, it's in those

memories that we find your

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character, Ogden Morrow.

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Let's take a look.

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Like an invention comes with

responsibilities you didn't ask for.

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All right, if you make something

people want or need, it's up to you

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to set the limits. You have to make

some rules.

I don't want to make any

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more rules.

I'm a dreamer.

I build

world's.

We created something

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beautiful, Jim, but it's changed,

it's not a game any more.

Are we

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finished? I liked how things were

when they were, when it was a game.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Interesting hearing you talk there.

It is amazing to work with Mark

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Rylance, here's a great actor.

Steven Spielberg directed this, and

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we understand that scene was a

problem for him. There are so many

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things going on.

In that scene, the

character is in an archive of the

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life of James Halliday, the inventor

of the Oasis, and he is trying to

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set his life for clues. And there

are lots of moments from security

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cameras that he can go back through.

And Steven wanted to shoot the scene

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as if it could be scrolled and moved

and zoomed in on like on a tablet.

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So he went on holiday to the

weekend, he went to Italy on a boat

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or something, like he does.

He is

Steven Spielberg.

And he came up

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with the idea to shoot the scene

with an ellipse of eight cameras

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running at the same time onto macro

different sides. There was a close

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and a wide and these eight cameras

in a semicircle. Mark and I did the

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scene however many times, and then

digitally, they stitched all the

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images together so you can spin it

around and see it like this. And

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that was him at the weekend, coming

up with that.

Gosh. So your

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character, this old bloke, is he a

Jobs or a Wozniak?

He is kind of a

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Jobs. There are elements of the

Wozniak thing. James Halliday and

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Ogden Morrow like Wozniak and Jobs.

Steve Wozniak was the brains,

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Steve Wozniak was the brains, and

Jobs is the face. So we are like

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that. But there are elements of

both. The writer of the book took

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those as well as Bill Gates as

inspiration.

Olivia, let's see you

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in action. You are running from the

evil corporation we were talking

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about.

This leads right to the

alley.

You first.

I'm behind you, go

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now. Wait, the Oasis needs you. I'm

going to delay them. You will

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forgive me for this, I promise.

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Lots of actors in the film couldn't

believe how brilliant your American

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accent was.

Well!

Is it true that

Steven Spielberg kept throwing

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little lines at you that you had not

rehearsed, going, can you throw this

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in?

I had a wonderful dialect coach

called Tom Jones, not the Tom Jones.

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And we worked tirelessly on the

accent. But the script was

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ever-changing and Steven Spielberg

would be like, say this. And then

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one day, it is on in the film any

more, but he decided to add this

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commercial in which was an 80s

commercial from America where he

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wanted me to do a southern American

accent to this jingle for a candy

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bar. And I was like, Steven, I'm

from Oldham. That is difficult for

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me. I can't just pull it out of my

bum.

That Oldham thing comes out all

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the time. But it is great.

How would

you describe Steven Spielberg's

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said? Growing up as aspiring actors,

one of the ultimate things is to be

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directed by Steven Spielberg. So how

does he direct you?

It's just the

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greatest place on earth for me. I

grew up watching Steven's movies. I

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saw Raiders when I was ten. That was

the first Steven Spielberg film I

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saw. I hugged him a little too much.

He is a hugger, but I kind of follow

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him around. In between shots, he

will say, I will say what was it

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like making Jaws, and he would just

tell you. And he has stories that

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are mind-blowing because he has

things from premises of your

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favourite movies. And he is a lovely

human being.

Do you have a little in

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with him, because he would make a

great guest.

He is such a raconteur.

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All his stories are amazing.

We will

talk later. Ready Player One is in

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cinemas from next Thursday.

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Towards the end of last year,

the Dollery family emailed us to ask

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for help in highlighting a problem

they were facing in dealing

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with what they saw as

hard-hearted bureaucracy.

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This is what happened next.

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Dad was a very intelligent, very

kind, very thoughtful, unbelievably

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understanding man. He was my buddy,

my best friend. We just liked to be

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with each other.

A few weeks before

he died, I remember saying to him

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how contented I felt with my life.

On the 18th of June 2015, Andrea

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Dollery and her husband Ian were

getting ready to go on holiday.

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Their daughter Grace had returned

home to look after the house while

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they were away. That evening, Ian

went to his garage to let the dogs

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out when they heard a scream.

We ran

to the back of the house, where my

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dad was, and my dad had collapsed.

And the attacker was stood over him.

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Andrea immediately threw herself at

the attacker, but he turned on her.

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I stumbled backwards and fell over,

and he was over me with the knife.

I

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had grabbed a broom after I heard my

dad scream. Have I not, Mum probably

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wouldn't be here.

Grace managed to

fight off the attacker with the

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broom. Ian died from multiple stab

wounds on his way to hospital. It

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was an unprovoked random attack in

their own home by a complete

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stranger to them.

I mean, to take

everything away from someone in a

0:21:090:21:14

matter of minutes for no reason...

Life is not life, it's just an

0:21:140:21:22

existence. I don't even really want

it.

Blameless victims like Grace and

0:21:220:21:29

Andrea are entitled to compensation

from the state from the Criminal

0:21:290:21:33

Injuries Compensation Authority, or

see ICA, to claim costs. For a crime

0:21:330:21:42

such as this, they could expect to

receive payments from the CICA of

0:21:420:21:47

£20,000 to £30,000 each. However,

research shows that what the CICA

0:21:470:21:51

pays out in compensation has

dramatically reduced in recent

0:21:510:21:54

years. In 2012, they paid out £450

million. Last year, that went down

0:21:540:22:02

to £143 million. That is three times

less. Grace and Andrea began the

0:22:020:22:06

complicated process of claiming

compensation following Ian's death,

0:22:060:22:10

but they were soon overwhelmed with

frustration at a system they felt

0:22:100:22:15

was working against them.

They

seemed to take no account of the

0:22:150:22:20

mental state that we have been in.

The CICA claimed they did not have

0:22:200:22:26

the paperwork, sending things out

twice or asking for the same

0:22:260:22:33

information again.

Not only that,

they say for each separate part of

0:22:330:22:36

the claim, they had to speak to a

different person.

That means

0:22:360:22:41

explaining the murder to every

single person you speak to. It is

0:22:410:22:44

giving out the dates when he

witnessed your dad being murdered

0:22:440:22:48

over and over again.

They are

totally lacking in any compassion,

0:22:480:22:54

empathy or humanity.

Three years

have passed since Ian's death and

0:22:540:22:59

they are still waiting for some

payments, said today we have

0:22:590:23:02

arranged for them to meet Baroness

Newlove. In her role as victims

0:23:020:23:06

commissioner, she promotes the

interests of victims and witnesses,

0:23:060:23:09

and she has the power to influence

government. How are you feeling?

0:23:090:23:15

Determined.

Baroness Newlove's

husband Gary was killed by a gang of

0:23:150:23:19

youths outside their home in 2007.

She is launching a review into the

0:23:190:23:24

CICA and wants to hear from victims

about their experiences.

I was upset

0:23:240:23:30

and angry that I have to go through

all of this to prove that I have

0:23:300:23:34

mental injuries.

Mum is one of the

strongest people I have ever known.

0:23:340:23:37

She threw herself at my dad's

attacker there handed, and she is

0:23:370:23:42

struggling with it.

This meant to be

a system that is working in your

0:23:420:23:47

favour, and yet it is like they are

battling.

There are more and more

0:23:470:23:50

people writing to me with the same

kind of emotion that Grace and

0:23:500:23:53

Andrea are showing here. It saddens

me to sit here, but it also makes me

0:23:530:23:57

more passionate to get involved with

all the other victims and to make it

0:23:570:24:02

better.

The Grace, something that

would help is a single point of

0:24:020:24:09

contact at the CICA.

It's just

common sense.

It is very common

0:24:090:24:14

sense, so that is why I am

passionate about an advocate who

0:24:140:24:17

would be that individual contact who

would take the baton right the way

0:24:170:24:20

through.

I am really glad I made the

effort to come on the show and do

0:24:200:24:25

something about it, because... We

feel we have been let down a lot and

0:24:250:24:30

this is the first sign we have seen

that something might change. I'm not

0:24:300:24:35

asking for a medal or any

recognition, I'm just asking for a

0:24:350:24:40

bit of money so that I can get on

with my life. That is what this

0:24:400:24:45

money is meant to be full, it's so

that it can help you carry on. So

0:24:450:24:50

why are they making you fight for

it? It means that those people who

0:24:500:24:53

don't have the fight in them aren't

going to get anywhere. And how is

0:24:530:24:58

that fair?

0:24:580:25:00

Well, Andrea and Grace have had

something of a breakthrough

0:25:000:25:02

since we filmed with them.

0:25:020:25:04

Andrea has now received an offer

for the maximum payment possible

0:25:040:25:09

for mental health injuries.

0:25:090:25:10

Grace is in the final

stages of her claim,

0:25:100:25:13

and hopes to receive an offer soon.

0:25:130:25:14

We have a statement from the CICA,

who send their deepest sympathies

0:25:140:25:17

to the Dollery family.

0:25:170:25:18

They told us they've worked hard

to speed up their system,

0:25:180:25:21

including bringing more of it online

and employing in-house

0:25:210:25:23

psychologists.

Where a bereaved relative claims

0:25:230:25:24

for mental injury, they are required

to obtain a clinical prognosis

0:25:240:25:29

before awarding compensation,

which can lead to delays

0:25:290:25:31

beyond their control.

Ultimately, they say their aim

0:25:310:25:33

is to ensure victims receive

the maximum compensation they're

0:25:330:25:35

entitled to, and their needs remain

at the heart of everything they do.

0:25:350:25:43

Please go to our website if you have

had an experience with the CICA.

0:25:460:25:51

Baroness Newlove would like to hear

from you.

0:25:510:25:58

Olivia, I would love to talk to you

about Vanity Fair. You play Becky

0:25:580:26:02

Sharp, a sassy, manipulative social

climber. What can you tell us?

Just

0:26:020:26:10

like you!

I play me, really! It is

on in the autumn. The last I heard,

0:26:100:26:15

it would be on in September on ITV,

prime-time Sunday night telly. My

0:26:150:26:20

mum is dead happy.

What accent are

you using for that?

Received

0:26:200:26:26

pronunciation.

Is that harder or

easier?

Harder. With a northern

0:26:260:26:33

accent, it is easier to access the

American accent. But you speak more

0:26:330:26:37

towards the front of your mouth for

a posh voice, which is hard for me.

0:26:370:26:45

We shall see.

You use your lips a

lot more.

Yes, I do.

And Simon, you

0:26:450:26:55

are producing these days. You have a

production company with Nick Frost.

0:26:550:26:59

Yes, we have a film coming out later

this year called slaughterhouse

0:26:590:27:03

rules, which is a horror comedy

directed by Crispian Mills who was

0:27:030:27:07

in Pulisic and is the grandson of

John Mills and the son of Hayley

0:27:070:27:10

Mills. And we are writing a show

called Truth Seekers, which is a

0:27:100:27:15

paranormal investigation comedy.

Come back soon. And bring Steven

0:27:150:27:21

Spielberg with you. Fax to both of

you. It's been lovely. We will be

0:27:210:27:29

back tomorrow with Michael Sheen and

Nicola Adams.

0:27:290:27:33

Just before we go, tomorrow

is World Down's Syndrome Day.

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And we think this is

all you need to know.

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# And all along I believed

I would find you

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# Time has

brought your heart to me

0:27:520:28:01

# I have loved you

for a thousand years

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# I'll love you for a thousand

more

0:28:070:28:15

# One step closer

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# One step closer

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# I have died every day

waiting for you

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# Darling,

don't be afraid

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# I have loved

you for a thousand years

0:28:460:28:52

# I'll love

you for a thousand more

0:28:520:28:59

# And all along I believed

I would find you

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# Time has

brought your heart to me

0:29:030:29:07

# I have

loved you for a thousand years

0:29:070:29:12

# I'll love you for a thousand more.

0:29:120:29:20

Simon Pegg and Olivia Cooke join Matt Baker and Alex Jones to talk about their roles in the new Steven Spielberg film Ready Player One. Half a century after Donald Campbell died on Coniston Water during his water speed record attempt, the show meets the man who spent over a decade recovering and restoring Campbell's Bluebird K7. Plus Anita Rani asks why the process of claiming from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority is so complex and Marty Jopson puts cola to an alternative use - as a household cleaner.