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Hello and welcome to One Show with Angellica Bell. And Matt Baker.

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Tonight's guest is shown he'll do whatever it takes to get big

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interviews. He charmed Pavarotti by tracing his feet and buying him a

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new pair of custom shoes. He waited seven hours for Paul McCartney.

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# Live and let die. And insisted on composing a song about him before

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they started. And he agreed to Barbara Cartland's demands to wear a

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dinner jacket while listening to her dictating a novel to the secretary.

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We just asked if he said yes. Melvyn Bragg, you are a pushover! That's an

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interesting bunch of anecdotes to reminisce over. Which one do you

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want to go for? I don't know where to start! Barbara Cartland was

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wonderful. She was nearly deaf. Her famous remark was that she wrote

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hundreds of novels and that she had cornered the market in virgins,

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darling. So she said to you, but a dinner jacket on. Guess, but the

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jacket on, put a tie on, and speak up because I'm deaf. She is a

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smashing old lady, but I am sitting there shouting at her. My friends

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didn't think I was a good job. She was great. She had thousands of

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dresses and she said, would you like to have a look? It was like being in

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a labyrinth of silk. I sort of got lost. I was putting my hand out and

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saying, can somebody get me out of here? That is what it is like in

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Alex's dressing room! Don't say that! The new 12 sided pound coin

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was released into the wild three months ago, but there is a problem.

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Many councils and companies are not ready to accept them. Andy has been

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to visit some frustrated people who can't make head nor tail of the

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situation. Britain's shiny new ?1 coin,

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released with much pizzazz by the Royal Mint in March, but shortly

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there will be hundreds of millions of them in circulation so you'd

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imagine you'd be able to go anywhere and use them, even Britain's much

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loved parking machines. Perhaps not everywhere. Not just yet. With up to

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one quarter of the country's meter is still not upgraded to take the

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new coin. Noble is causing exasperation across car parks.

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That's despite a year's noticed for the owners, private and local

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authority. Not in this one. Including Norwich council. This car

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park is right under their noses. Can you believe it? The council sit

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there in their big building and they can't get a machine to take the new

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Queen's coins. The British parking association, which represents the

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industry, suggests we all carry a range of coins. So you have to go to

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a nearby restaurant... And what happened? I said I've got three new

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pound coins, and they got any change? They emptied out their tips

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jar to try and find old ones. Wright and see what they think of it at a

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restaurant. On Saturday, it slows us down. Sometimes we don't have change

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for people. And that's our fault! You can sometimes pay by mobile, but

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it might cost more. So some drivers have tried other solutions. Like

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Sheila from Dunbar in south-east Scotland. If I can get the kit

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working, I'm going to chat to her. Hi, Sheila. She had money but the

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machine rejected her new pound coins. I wrote a note stating my

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intention to pay and I left it on the dashboard with the change in

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full view for the attendant to see it. Great idea, but sadly it didn't

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work. I came back to find a nice big parking ticket on my car. She

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appealed and the charge was dropped, but the legal position for drivers

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like her who don't have an old pound coin has yet to be tested in court.

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The British parking association advises its members that it would be

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unfair to penalised somebody in that position and they remind the car

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park is that it's their responsibility to find some other

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method of paying or to find a machine that actually works. Norwich

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council says, with many metres already adjusted, it's done all it

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can and is in a queue waiting for the remainder, but the British

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parking association admits it's a problem everywhere, so what's taken

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so long? To find out, I joined this man from the metric parking group,

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who maintain parking meters for businesses and councils nationwide.

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They are not responsible for the city centre car park but they do

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have two micromachines left to convert in Norwich. What is the

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mission this morning? We are on the way to one of our customers to

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upgrade their machines to accept the new coins. About 16,000 machines

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need upgrading. We have upgraded about 14,000. It is some months

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since the introduction of the coin. While you still converting machines?

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We wrote our customers last year. The delays were caused by customers

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placing orders. The British parking association says the huge number of

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machines needing to be adapted is unprecedented and they are aware of

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the bedrock. In October, the old coins stop being legal tender. We

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have arrived at Wroxham on the Norfolk Broads, where car park is

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all resorting to desperate measures. In sync of it will go straight in.

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And you just have the new coins? That's what I've got. How much do

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you need?? ?1. With 1500 machines to sort out before October, when the

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old pound coins are withdrawn, he is up against the clock. That wasn't

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too bad, just under 15 minutes. Just the ticket. Let's hope we can get

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the problem well and truly parked everywhere. Something has just

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occurred to me. When we arrived, did we get a parking ticket? We didn't,

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did we? No, we didn't. Good man, Andy. Let us know in the usual

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places if you've had a problem spending a new pound coin and maybe

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we will send Andy round. You cancel it out. Melvyn, you are hosting the

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upcoming South Bank Awards, in its 21st year. We are going to talk

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about the TV and music nominations in a moment, but give us a flavour

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of the others. There is nothing like in the world. We have it in London

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and it goes around the country. It is just the art, but ever since I

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started the South Bank Show in the 70s, art included pop music,

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classical music, television drama, west End drama, comedy as well as

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literature and so on. All of those different people are under one roof

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at the same time, and it's nice to see them in each other up and

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wondering, who's that? Some energy! Who is that long-haired person? It's

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not a museum, -- a musician, it's a pop museum. We have had wonderful

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people make the awards. And people enjoy getting prizes. It's a good

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time to be two or three things. It's a good time to see the best people

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celebrated from this country right across the board. That's one of the

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reasons I started the South Bank Show. Particularly now, it's a good

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time, when people are thinking, with some reason, that life is terrible

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so we have to concentrate on the serious things all the time, and one

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of those of the arts, music, dancing, pleasure, Reading. That is

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one of the serious things, so we are doing that kind of serious thing,

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enjoyment and pleasure. Television is another category, and The Crown

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is nominated alongside National Treasure and Happy Valley. I hereby

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declare that I and my children shall be styled and known as the house and

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family of Windsor. And that my descendants, other than female

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descendants, and their descendants, shall bear the name of Windsor.

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Well, The Crown was overlooked at the Baftas. You are in competition

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and peoples views changed and they obviously thought that other things

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were better. You take it on the chin. Because you are magnificent,

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as The Crown is, it doesn't mean you are going to win. We were talking

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about this earlier, but do you think that platforms like Netflix are

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hindering or boosting television? I think the advancement of television

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is extraordinary, and the new things that have come along are good. These

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great long things on Netflix don't take anything away. Everybody is

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willing to do this, that and the other, but a lot of the drama on

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BBC, ITV, Sky and so on is better than it's ever been. It's in

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terrific form. It doesn't work like that. We just think that one thing

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wiped out another, but we are not built like that. Movies didn't wipe

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out the theatre. Television didn't wipe out the movies. We go to all of

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them. We are capable of doing a lot of things, hopping from one thing to

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another. You have been looking at this in detail for a BBC Two

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documentary, The Box That Changed The World. Talking of The Crown,

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inspired by our Queen's rain, talk about communal viewing, and The Box

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That Changed The World. It did. It is difficult in one respect, masses

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of clips, archive clips that haven't been seen before, briefly, there has

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been nothing ever in human history as powerful, I think, as the

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invention of the television, as powerful to our senses and our

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minds. We see things that our grandparents and great grandparents

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never dreamt of seeing, they didn't dream work there, the top of

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mountains, the bottom of oceans, the man on the moon, famine, war. They

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are spectators, not participants. That's never happened. It's an

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extraordinary feast of the world which we don't quite know how to

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cope with, and I think it is enriching people to an extent that

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we are hardly aware of it. People read this audience, each one of them

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probably knows more, as access to more knowledge than the wisest

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people in the world more than 100 years ago. You can see the Sky Arts

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South Bank Awards later and that programme is on Saturday July the

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1st on BBC Two. Yesterday we met Neil Robertson who found himself

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addicted to online gaming and wanted to protect his six-year-old son from

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making the same mistake. Today we see what happened when Neil met up

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with gaming's most dedicated fans to see if they have answers for a

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growing problem. As a professional sportsman, is Niall's personality to

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be the best that has fuelled his gaming addiction, but he also feels

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that game developers should do more to help people like him. The games I

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have been most addicted to have been the ones that have played on my

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adult -- on my emotions, ones that are very competitive. Some games out

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there, when you log in, they say, game responsibly. I think there is

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probably more that could go into the programming to make those more

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obvious. Niall is keen to understand how best to manage the amount of

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time that his six-year-old son spends playing video games, so what

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do parents and kids at this gaming festival think? What happens when

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mum says, you've got to get off? But I'm in the middle of a level! What

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kind of things does your son safe when you tell him to come off?

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Another hour? Are you worried it could become addicted? Yes, it's a

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worry that it's so acceptable. If you just said no, all their friends

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are doing it and they'd want it even more. I'm quite happy for him to go

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on every day as long as it is limited. My pulls the plug. -- my

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husband pulls the plug. There would be a time when this would accept

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only 14th 18-year-olds and now we see people well into their adult

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years. Do you manage your gaming time OK? I played a lot more games

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in my teenage years and arguably I'd now say it is time well spent

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because I'm a so it's research. The UK is the sixth largest games market

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in the world and last year the industry here was worth a total of

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?4.3 billion. Andrew Smith is a developer at a small UK company that

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makes multiplayer online games. Are you aware when you are developing

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these games how addictive they can be? It would be silly to say we are

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not. We try and make games that people fall in love with. It's about

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an emotional connection. In a large part of that can be similar to the

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features that will make people addicted. Games are a predominant

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artform of the modern world. Some games have a play to win scenario

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where, the you spend, it isn't just about going to a shop and spending

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30, 40 quid, sometimes you need to upgrade, like a ship or a vehicle,

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and that costs real money. Absolutely. The dream is for our

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game to be somebody's hobby. Most hobbies allow somebody to spend a

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fair amount of money, beyond what you would normally associate with a

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video game in a store. That is the case for many people here today, but

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what -- at what point does a pastime become an obsession? I have played

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for 24 hours straight. You have to have your limits. I've had friends

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who have played for 48 hours. What makes you want to keep playing? It

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is like escapism. It takes you out of this world. You go into a fantasy

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world where you can be whoever you want to be and there are things you

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can't do in the real world. It is clear that young people love their

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video games and, for the parents, it seems moderation is key. I love the

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game as much as the kids do but I'm good at structuring my time. It

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isn't a given right, something you get is a reward for doing your

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homework. So what is Neil taken away from his experience? Watching my son

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playing games, I'd always think, these are two addictive, but

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obviously that is that an element to them, but as parents we have to

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allow that not happen. For anybody out there who has been in your

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situation, who can't see the wood for the trees, what advice would you

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give them? Set realistic goals and don't just say, I'm only going to

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play for half an hour when realistically it will be two hours.

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Make sure you do your training and homework first and then you are free

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to chill out and play games. A lot of mums and dads will be

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really aware of the effect games have on their kids but there's some

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science behind it For a lot of people, it is not a

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problem, but for the small percentage that become dependent, it

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becomes a serious problem. Researchers have likened it to

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gambling addiction, it can affect their health and well-being. The

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researchers have pulled together a warning list. Take away the console

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and see how they react, see if they become an chess or withdrawn, if

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they are not eating or sleeping, then maybe it is time to

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re-evaluate. Prevention is better than your. Talking from a father's

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perspective, it is hard. You do the time thing, you try to be as

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amicable as possible, you were talking to lots of desperate

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parents, it is unknown territory. Help was one word that came to mind.

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But good old-fashioned boundaries, with a reward system in place. When

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the gamers have done their dishes, they have chatted around the dinner

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table, reward them with a designated time on the console. The key thing

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is the time you finish. Get the old-fashioned egg timer out, the one

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that rings really loud, and give them a designated time to finish,

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and maybe give them a ten minute warning, because you cannot just go

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in and pull the plug. It gives them time to save the game, and say

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goodbye to their online friends. You will have to get an egg timer!

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Massive aid timers! Sales will go up!

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Tower-block residents face an anxious wait for information

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after today's news that about 600 buildings have some form

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of cladding on them which could potentially be dangerous.

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Even people living in blocks without cladding are concerned,

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and Matt's been to the scene of a previous fire to

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find out what questions people should be asking.

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Just a week after the biggest tower block fire in UK history, the fire

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safety industry has gathered in London at the fire Expo, and the

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tragedy of Grenfell is a main point of discussion. We are worried that

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our regulations have been falling behind the scale and scope of what

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is going on in the fire world of the built environment. With the current

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safety of buildings at the top of the agenda, the Mayor of London

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Sadiq Khan has said that some tower blocks from the 60s and 70s may be

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knocked down, which in the long term they be fine, but if you are putting

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your children to bed tonight on the 14th floor, it is less than

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reassuring, so what questions do you need to ask? What documents do you

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need to see? What does safe look like in a tower block? This is

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Harrow Court in Stevenage, around the same age as Grenfell. In 2005 a

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fire caused three deaths, but it did not spread to other areas. The

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Council fire safety officer is going to show me around. If there is a

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fire, you need water, and that means you need a dry riser. What does it

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do? We have a pipe on every floor, there is an outlet, and they pushed

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the water up to before they needed out. Making sure it is in good

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order, it would be worth checking. Absolutely. How do you get out of

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the building? This blog has two stairwells, we go back to Grenfell,

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a lot of people said they should have been another fire escape. You

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could still have a new purpose-built block of flats these days that would

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only have one stairwell. And art sprinklers the answer? Why do we not

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have one? Our buildings perform admirably, because we have

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detection, and we keep our corridor is clear, so there should be nothing

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that will burn. What do the experts think it is about fire safety

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regulation that needs to be reviewed? The biggest problem is the

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fact that building products are moving much faster, and they are not

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being fought through when it comes to testing them for use in reality,

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and legislation has not kept pace. The regulations are playing catch

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up. But they have not caught up. Normally the approved document is

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reviewed every six years or so and it has been over ten years since our

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last review. If I was a resident by tower block and I had concerned

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about fire safety, I would want to query the council with respect to

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the fire risk assessment. Since last Wednesday Stevenage Borough Council

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has been working hard to reassure residents in all their housing

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stock. They are safe, we are reassured, we do begin checks, and

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they are safe for our customers. Very early on with Grenfell, the

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stapled policy was what people focused on, it might have cost lives

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for stop what the Fire Service had said that if people stay in their

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flats, the way that the buildings are built, they are built to contain

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a Fire Within an individual unit. The Fire Service will be able to get

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to those people. The crucial question that you will be asking,

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what will it be? That the risk assessment is current and sufficient

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for the block you live in, but you have to make sure you have good

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levels of fire stopping, a good 30 minute fire door between you and the

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escape routes, and making sure that the walls and floor are solid

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construction. If you are living in a high-rise, if you are worried, there

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is something you can do. Find the FRS, fire risk assessment, and work

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through it bit by bit. If what you see in it does not look good enough,

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does not look practical or well thought through, if people have not

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bothered to check things, get on the phone, start writing e-mails and

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make a fuss. Matt, where should people be able

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to find those fire risk assessments? There should be held by your

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landlord, the housing association or the council, they should have

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copies. Some councils, such as Harlow, make there is public by

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putting them online, so you can find them on the website. That is a much

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easier way for people to understand the work that is being done to

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protect them, the thought that has gone into it and what would happen.

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It will tell you what you should do. You can see how much thought has

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gone into bed. Melvyn, as an active

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member of the Lords, what role do you hope

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you and your colleagues With such a messed up Government,

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the Lords can do a lot. The Lords have been forcing people to look at

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things more carefully. Take a wider look at it. We need more regulation,

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we have to force it through, we have to stop the cuts. These things do

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not happen in very expensive blogs, they happen where poor people live.

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We have got to find a way to sort that. We heard Theresa May talking

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about analysis of buildings with cladding, when will residents find

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out? 600 tower blocks are being tested, that is what they are

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looking at. Seven in four areas have been shown to have combustible

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cladding, the landlords are being notified, and it should get through

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to the residents very quickly. One has been found in Camden, and they

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are working to remove that cladding right now. For those people, they

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can see the work taking place, and that will make them feel better.

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The last time I met the comedian Hal Cruttenden,

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he was desperately seasick on board the One Show's Sport Relief

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We've been kinder to him this time, asking him and his sister to revisit

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the scene of an idyllic family holiday on a certain Somerset farm

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that around this time of year gets a little bit noisy.

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Glastonbury is the biggest greenfield music Festival in the

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world. But this is how me and my sister Abigail will always remember

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the festival's home at worthy farm. This was the exciting moment. It

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still is. It was like the beginning of the holiday. You go around the

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corner and go, it is the farm! I don't associated with Coldplay,

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kaiser chiefs or Kanye West, I think of kids play, cops and robbers and

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cowpats. This is where we spent our happiest summer holidays, milking

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cows and herding balls. These were the best times. Because we were here

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for so long and we had such freedom, and because of everybody at the farm

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and the kids, they were great, we hung out with them. It was ideal,

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nothing like it. This week, 30,000 people are employed on site. We

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remember all of this as a working dairy farm. Our parents thought it

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happened me up a bit, because I had been so scared of cars. Our family

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started staying here in 1973. Three years after Michael Eavis launched

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the festival to help keep the farm financially afloat. Our parents

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discovered it because friends used to come down. It will still

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happening in June, we were there in August, but there were Moroccan

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drummers, and they were living in the barn, they had done the festival

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and hung out for two months, and you would walk around and a Moroccan

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would walk past coming, mourning. Our sister and we shared the top

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floor with the children of Michael Eavis' family. It is the first time

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we have been back in 30 years. Hello! One of the highlights were

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Michael's tactical jokes, which normally involved Amber Schinkel our

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midnight feasts. I went up a ladder, knocked on the window, 10pm at

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night, I thought I was scaring the kids, and old lady came out.

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Probably 90 odd! It is the first time since 1980I have seen my

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childhood friend and hero Patrick, Michael's son, and cursed to be the

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only boy in a family of girls. I think he liked me, but I was

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trailing him round, and he knew how to do everything, and I would be

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impressed. We were a bit Somerset local, you came from London, you

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drove a smart car. Townies! Exactly! Since 1999 Michael has shed the

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running of the festival with his daughter Emily, the youngest member

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of our clan. For God's sake! It is like the stuff of legend, he visits

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from your family. You were small enough, I was standing at the front

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of the house, Sandra said, can you look after Emily? I was like, OK...

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You were sitting on the grass, I said, hello, chatting, and they are

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all staring to see how I would cope. Being put in charge of Emily! She is

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an immensely powerful woman, she books this, I am sure she would like

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to be reminded that I used to look after her! Can I play the Pyramid

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stage, please? As kids, we would know where to look for Michael, in

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the cow shed. That is still where we find him today. 500 cards? A huge

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operation. We won the UK best dairy farm, migrate grandparents moved

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here 156 years ago, and we have been ever since. It is important to keep

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the farm going, more so than keeping the festival going. Sadly, we

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stopped coming here in the 1980s, when Abbey's acting jobs and foreign

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holidays got in the way. Now, it is time to say goodbye again. It has

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been amazing, brilliant. Take care. The music is ringing out as we

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speak. The Box That Changed Britain

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is on BBC Two on Saturday 1st July, and the Sky Arts South Bank Awards

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can be seen on July 9th. Tomorrow, Jerry Springer

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is presenting with Alex, and Tracey Ullman and Rita Ora

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will be on the sofa.

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