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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

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Many of our viewers will remember tonight's guest for a series of

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revealing roles in films like Walkabout and Logan's Run. After a

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hugely successful 40 year career, she is more likely to be wearing a

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wimple than her birthday suit. It is Jenny Agutter. Lovely to meet

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you. You have taken quite a shine to the wimple. What is that? In you

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have taken a shine to the wimple. On a was told I -- I was told that

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she would try it on. It is good to see a man in a wimple. Oh, right!

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It is quite liberating, going in knowing that every day your

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character wears the same thing. Liberating, you say? It is quite

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liberating. Do you find it liberating? Yes! Quite nice. You

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don't have to worry about your hair. You look a bit weird. I think you

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should take it off. You are frightened children. OK! It is

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really nice to be made up and look glamorous and all the rest of it,

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but went you are filming all the time and you have to get up very

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early, it is nice to know that you do not need an extra two hours to

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look good. What shall I wear? The habit. I will put the wimple on and

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no make-up and that is it. That must be really nice. Call The

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Midwife has been a huge hit. It has only been on a couple of weeks and

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it is already the most popular new BBC drama for a decade. Let's go

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live to Edinburgh Royal Infirmary and see what it is like in a 21st

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century maternity unit. Have you met any newborn babies yet, Lucy?

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have and I might meet some more before the end of the show. They

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don't come to order. I am relaxing by the pool, the birthing pool.

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Bean bags, fluffy couches for the fathers to relax while the women do

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the hard work. This is the Royal Infirmary state-of-the-art birthing

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suite. There is everything here. It is a far cry on the surface from

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the 1950s era of Call The Midwife but the ethos is still the same. To

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deliver a happy, healthy babies. On that note, Shona, you are in charge

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tonight as head midwife. It is pretty busy here. How many babies

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do you deliver every year? Last year in the Royal Infirmary there

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were just under 7000 babies. That is 17 per day. You really are busy

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so I will leave you to it. Our team has been following things all day.

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Look at this. It is the beginning of the morning

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shift and this midwife is checking up on Tracey. She has been in

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labour for eight hours. She has just received additional pain

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medication and Linda is on the lookout for complications. We have

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to keep a close eye on the baby's heartbeat and the contractions. We

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have to make sure she is not contracting too much. The midwives

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and doctors took care of me very well. It is just that things happen

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and complications arise. I am waiting for two more powers to try

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to have a natural birth. If it does not happen then I have to have a

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Caesarean section. Later on we will find out whether it was a boy or a

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girl. Very exciting. I have my scrubs here. I watched Call The

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Midwife on Sunday so I think I can help to deliver a baby. Don't think

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so. Are you sure you are up to that? That is a tall order. Almost

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certainly not. They would never let him loose. OK! We will come back

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later on. They earlier this month we asked you to get in touch if you

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had noticed that your street light was getting turned off during the

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night. Hundreds of you have be e- mailed in from Cornwall up to

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Scotland. Mike is unhappy. His father-in-law is 77 and he had to

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give him the torch to get him home, it was like the blackouts during

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the war. And Richard says that he is in favour of saving night-time

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light pollution. Of the Council but we know about, these are the ones

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that told us that they switched off their lighting between midnight and

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5 o'clock in the morning. Nobody in Northern Ireland, that's

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interesting. We report from Bingham. Like many places in Great Britain,

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Bingham has had its night-time street lighting reduced, plunging

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them up when into darkness for most of their round. -- the milk men.

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How has this affected your work? makes things more dangerous. You

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can't see obstacles in the way. There have been a few accidents at

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work. How dark is it? In certain areas it is like walking into a

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forest. Pitch black. You cannot see two feet in front of you. It makes

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the job harder. The street lights going of makes the job harder.

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can see how dark it is. It is completely black. This is what we

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have to contend with. We cannot even see the house in front of us.

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I can understand why people would feel anxious and scared walking

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home. I would not want to do it. The council says that they do not

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switch off the lights in high-crime areas or accident blackspots. Lots

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of consultation takes place before a decision is made to switch off

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the street lights. According to the council, everything is done to

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minimise the impact on local residents. Bingham resident Fiona

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feels so strongly about the impact of the likes going of that she has

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started a petition to get them switched back on. -- the lights

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going off. It is completely black and you cannot see to the end of

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your drive. People feel vulnerable in their homes. There was a spate

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of break-ins. One neighbour was broken into while they were

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sleeping in bed. They came in through the side door of the house.

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It is a long way down the back of their house and it is quite dark.

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It is extremely dark down the street right now so it gave the

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burglars ample time to get in through the side door. Nobody

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noticed that they were there because the lights were off and we

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could not see anything. She is so worried about another break-in that

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she has taken action. We have fitted the security lights after

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the burglary. We wanted extra security so that we could see down

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the side of the house and our neighbours can, too. Although they

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believe that the lack of street lighting is responsible for an

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increase in crime, the police so that is not the case. Looking at

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the figures, across Bingham there has been a 68% decrease in

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burglaries. Do you think the likes being switched off, people just

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believed bad things can happen, it is perception of reality? They

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think it is a possible perception that it is very dark and so there

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is more chance of things happening and people being out and up to no

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good. But looking at the figures for anti-social behaviour and crime,

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that does not tally up. I think it is just perception. Another reason

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councils before switching off the lights is to reduce carbon

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emissions. -- another reason councils give. But as more people

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drive instead of walking, carbon emissions could actually increase.

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At this news they did, the staff begin work at 4:30am. -- at this

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newsagent. One of our members of staff used to walk in and the other

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would drive. But now that one is having to go out of their way to

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pick up the other one because they cannot walk that far. We won't let

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them because it is too dangerous. Bingham council estate that tough

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economic times mean they have no choice but to turn off the lights

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to save money. It is a commonsense approach. You don't need the lights

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on downstairs when you go to bed at night. There are very few people

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about so do we want to spend �1.5 million a year lighting the empty

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streets? Last night I actually went out in darkness to see what it

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would feel like. Lots of people mentioned it being eerie, and I

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admit that it was, at the sounds, not being able to see in front of

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me. Can you understand how people are feeling? We are working hard to

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reassure people. It is about being aware that there has not been an

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increase in crime and anti-social behaviour. They are as safe as they

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were when the street lights were on. The council say that this decision

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is not definitive. If crime and NT social behaviour increases, they

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will switch them back on. -- anti- social behaviour. We had lots of

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emails during that film saying that lots of people are in favour. What

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do you think, Jenny? I would not want to turn them off in London but

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there is something lovely being in the country and having a starlit

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night. Maybe we do need torches. So long as you cannot fall down a hole,

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or you are not been an urban area. Where I am from, we swap torches

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because there are no lights. I bet you have got loads of torches.

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you can get wind-up torches. You squeeze them and they keep going.

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We will move on to Call The Midwife, incredibly successful. It is based

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on Jennifer Worth's memoirs. 8 million people are watching. What

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do you think the key to its success is? Well, you never know. When you

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are making it, you have no idea. I was taken with the story. I knew

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that it was a best-selling novel and everybody was enjoying Jennifer

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Worth's work. But if you think of the subject matter, it is not an

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obvious choice. Partly there are some really interesting stories in

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the 50s. There is a very good writer on the script. It is an

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interesting and fun cast and also the guests have been very good. It

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is completely different. People are intrigued by the idea of not having

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a doctor's story, detective story, a thriller. It is actually about

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people at a certain time. People you do not know about but they

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touch on your life in some way. Let's have a look at this Sunday's

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episode. This is the convent and the midwives are complaining about

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the state of the houses that they have to visit. I can't go back

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there, not with those things crawling about. Calm down. They do

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not invest human beings. As for never going back there, it is out

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of the question. The comfort is not important. You have a job to do and

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you will do it. The wimple suited you more! I was

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not going to say that! It is based on MAM was, of course. The nuns and

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midwives are based on real people. You met your character's cousin.

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was extraordinary. I met somebody who knew the character that I

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played's cousin. I spoke to her and she told me what the real one and

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was like. It is a little bit removed. The book Take That Away

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and the scripts take it a bit further. -- take it away. It is

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Jennifer Worth's story and it is based on three things that happened.

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The difference between the nuns and the characters that are in it, this

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is awful, she says she cannot go back there, and the nuns have no

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judgment about the way people are living and what they are doing. It

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is just a matter of dealing with that. Going back to the earlier

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question, for those that have been through childbirth, it is such a

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vivid experience. As soon as you see somebody going through it, you

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instantly snapped back. Yes. You have had two children and each one

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makes you think how amazing the event is. That same with Miranda

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Hart, the breech armour on Sunday. Everybody was sucked into it. --

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the breech birth. When we were for -- filming, more of the men were

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talking about childbirth and the women. They were shoved out of the

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way in the 50s, so that has changed. When my brother had his first child

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32 years ago, he was so excited. My husband was there as well. To be

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part of that is fantastic. Unfortunately we have not got time

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for another club. The midwives at the Royal Infirmary in Edinburgh

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have got a question for you. Yes, a collection of midwives. Is that a

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chorus? Elaine, would you like to ask Jenny your suggestion for

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another series? Will we see multiple births? We don't want

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twins, we want three! Or I can say is that Sister Julienne did not

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actually have to handle any births in this one but it was alluded to

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the fact that when there was a difficulty she would be there.

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Perhaps in the next series there will be a multiple birth and I will

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have to deal with it. Who knows? We will see. Thanks to the midwives.

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We will be back. Back to Edinburgh later on. Call The Midwife shows

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how expectant mothers coped in the 50s, but Ruth Goodman has been

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looking further back to the Today's technology makes pregnancy

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and birth relatively safe for the mother and child. In Victorian

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times, it was very different. On average, a Victorian wife spent 12

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years either pregnant or breast- feeding, with that on average five

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births each. Of course, many of those would not make it to their

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first birthday is a live. Judith Flanders is an author and social

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historian who has studied Victorian life in detail. How was pregnancy

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seen in Victorian times? It was a lovely event as long as you were

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married and did not mention it. It was hidden as much as possible.

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Clothing helped you hide it. At the end of the century, a woman was

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wearing approximately 37lbs of clothing. So it could hide an awful

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lot. For in the early Victorian period, pregnancy and birth was a

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woman's business. But in the mid- 19th century, one book brought

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enormous change. Advice to a wife was a self-help manual. But it was

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written by a man, a surgeon called Henry. It was the first doctor's

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book ever, not just of his day. He was the first to write childbirth

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books to give his professional expertise. People like him were

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part of that movement to switch it from pregnancy being a woman's

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thing to being a medical condition. I like the way everything is put

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down. If something happens, see a doctor. If it doesn't, see a doctor.

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If you are not sure, see a doctor. I have come to unauthentic

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Victorian kitchen to try a few Victorian remedies out. Toothache

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is a frequent sign of pregnancy, pregnancy often being destructive

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to the teeth, destroying one with every child. He gives a whole range

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of things to help with the toothache. This one is the simplest.

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Take a piece of brown paper. And some brandy, and scatter a load of

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pepper. And this is laid to the cheek. It is supposed to stay there

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for several hours. How much it helps the toothache, I am not sure.

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This is a good one about stomach problems. We need powdered rhubarb.

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Half a dram. Carbonate magnesium, essence of ginger, compound

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tincture of cardamoms and peppermint water. This is not quite

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medicine. Many of these ingredients are genuinely helpful and would be

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recommended today. But my favourite recipes considerably less good for

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you. A glass of champagne for the morning sickness. Perhaps the

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scariest part in Victorian times was the birth itself. This

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expertise from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. She

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wants to show me a collection of Victorian birthing instruments that

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sent shivers down my spine, as does the prospect of being a poor

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Victorian mother, as pain relief was reserved for the rich.

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Chloroform was one of the major advances in the practice of

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obstetrics. Only doctors could give it. That meant that only the women

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who could afford the services of the doctor could afford the

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benefits of chloroform. Hygiene standards were poor, and the higher

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death rates associated with birth were often the fault of the doctors

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themselves. Doctors attended people with infections, of course, and

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then brought the infection into the birthing chamber. This would have

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been the obstetrician's tool box in 1850. And it is exactly these

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things that moved infection from one woman to another? Yes. And the

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danger was that the mum would develop an infection and die.

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of them are gruesome. People often ask, would I really like to live in

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the past? Well, this is one of the reasons why the answer to that is

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emphatically No. Well, you have obviously researched the '50s for

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your role in Call The Midwife. Would you like to go further back

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to the Victorian era? That was extraordinary. When you look at how

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far we have come, when I read the script for Call The Midwife, it

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seemed much further back than the '50s. It felt very historical, with

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all the equipment. It seemed so removed from today. Makes you

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wonder where it is going in the next decades. It was amazing to see

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those women in Edinburgh. Good news. It is day two of Mike Dilger's week

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hopping out at Tiggywinkles animal rescue centre.

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Last night, we rescued a fallow deer that had been caught up in a

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barbed-wire fence. The first 24 hours are critical when Nadir comes

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in. Due to their ordeal, they are prone to stress, and resulting

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symptoms can kill them. It is the morning after the night before, and

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we are here with bated breath. How is our dear doing? Let's have a

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look. Looks like it is doing OK. He made it through the night. He is

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looking good. That is a great sign. Our dear has got fight. Will he

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make a good recovery? I am confident. He is happy and tried to

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jump out of the door. Delighted. But there is still concern about

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the injury to his leg, and I will check on him later. The vets and

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nurses at this Wildlife Centre will go to extraordinary lengths to get

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an animal on the road to recovery. Tiggywinkles receive around three

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tawny owls a week, many of which are the result of car accidents and

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need special treatment to nurse them back to health. Fortunately,

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the staff here really do give a hoot. Since since this one was hit

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by a car, it has had problems with his vision. So we have travel 30

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miles for a special appointment with veterinary of pathologist

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David. You can see a cataract. There is a detached retina behind

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the lens. There is no way we can laser that back in position. Tall

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and the owls have superb night vision and can see in near pitch

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black, but as they used their hearing to hunt as well, it might

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not all be bad news. Does that mean for the owl is effectively blind?

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Totally blind in this I. But with time to adjust in captivity to site

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in only one night, it is possible he could hunt in the wild again.

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During the spring and summer, rescuing abandoned juvenile badgers

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is one of the most regular call- outs, as they are too young to

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survive on their own. But after months of care, they are strong

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enough to fend for themselves. One of this year's intake really stands

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out from the crowd. That is astonishing! It is a beautiful

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animal. So he is colouring is due to a genetic variation. He is not a

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beano, because he does not have those pink eyes, but to have an

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all-white badger is incredibly rare. It's unfortunately, they stand out

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like a sore thumb. That worries me. People like to shoot white animals

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and stuff them and have them as a trophy. As a consequence, he will

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not be released back into the wild. Instead, he will remain here in a

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specially built badger enclosure. The other four, you are going to

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build an artificial badger sett, and they can come and go as they

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please. I will get my shovel. have a much bigger shovel for you.

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This is building a badger sett, industrial style. It will be like a

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halfway house. Although built on the centre's Land, the badgers will

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be free to go into the wild. I have no idea what I am doing. A simple

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badger sett is made up of two tunnels, with one big sleeping

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chamber. This is how you do it properly. That is looking white.

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Presumably the badgers will come out at dusk, feed in the paddock

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and then when it comes to dawn, they will shoot like rats down a

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drainpipe. Straight back into the badger sett. Let's hope the badgers

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will remain as a family group. But if they leave, the badger sett will

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be used again next year. Four badgers, one new home. Lovely.

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Tomorrow, a polecat gets a new home and we will have one in the studio.

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My favourite moment last year was you put your hand in the box and

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touchy the Little ferret. Which I thought was a cat.

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Any way, I'd back to the Edinburgh Royal Infirmary maternity ward now

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and our wannabe midwife. Lucy, we have had suggestions for a group of

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midwives. How about an expectation. For a delivery. Why didn't I think

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of those? Obviously, this is an ultra-modern hospital, but cast

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your mind back to the 1950s. Then, the average number of babies born

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was 806,000. Now it is 807,000. But in the '50s, half of those were

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born at home. Now it is fewer than 5%. A mother in the '50s would have

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spent about ten days in hospital recuperating. Now, she is out in 24

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hours, some apparently within six hours. I am joined now by Lindsay

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Reid, midwifery royalty and an expert on the history of midwifery.

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This is a 1950s midwifery kit. What is the most obvious difference?

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What stands out completely, literally, is this stethoscope.

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looks primitive, made from wood. You could get them in plastic. They

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were used for listening to the foetal heart via the mother's

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abdomen. I know that, because I saw Miranda Hart's character do it. I

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am just going to go across to so Celia. You are a student of

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midwifery. And this is what you would use instead of that object.

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Yes, it is battery operated and utilises ultrasound waves to listen

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to the baby's habit. Would you rather use this? Yes, because

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everyone else can listen in. It is more inclusive. Earlier, we caught

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up with Tracy, who had eight hours in labour. This is what happened.

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A Tracy Edwards is still waiting for her first child to be born. She

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has been in labour overnight, and she is being examined by the doctor.

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Your baby is facing the ceiling. So your baby is in an oar -- a more

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awkward position. We need a Caesarean section. It will be safer.

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With childbirth, you can't predict. You can have a plan, but the plan

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can just crumble and the next thing you know, you have to follow what

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the doctors say and the midwives say. Whatever is good for the baby

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and yourself. These midwives, different types of childbirth are

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everyday eventualities, and within the hour, Tracey's baby is safely

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in his mother's arms. I am feeling very happy that he is finally here

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with us. Safe and sound. I know what we need to see. Would you like

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gorgeous. And being quite a vocal. How are you feeling? A bit tired,

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but fine. You look fantastic. And it all went well? Absolutely. It

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was perfect. The midwives were amazing. How cuties she?! She is

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really cute. I am obsessed, so I have to ask. Did you watch Call The

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Midwife on Sunday? We did, and my waters broke ten minutes after the

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programme. She is so amazing. On behalf of everyone at The One Show,

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Of so cute! Good luck to all expectant mums and dads, especially

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the mums. Now, the Avengers is coming up. What is it like to be

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back on a Hollywood blockbuster? is a tiny role. But the whole

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rigmarole of being in Hollywood with Samuel L Jackson...

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Thank you to all of you who have been e-mailing and about street

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lights. People in the countryside are saying townies should stop

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