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Welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones. Now tonight,

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how to stop your identity being stolen with Gloria Hunniford. Hang

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on a minute. That's Angela Rippon. It's me. Cheeky! And we'll find out

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which one of our viewers will win the chance to create their dream

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garden at the Hampton Court Palace Flower Show courtesy of The One

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Show and the RHS. It's an exciting night. They look tense.An comedian

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Reginald D Hunter starts his new tour right here in the studio,

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but... LAUGHTER

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He's looking more anxious than usual don't you think. That will be

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why. That is Nikita the eagle. She's huge. She's swooped in to

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help her find her missing mate. Luckity our guests tonight will

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make Nikita feel right at home. # Welcome to the Hotel California

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# Such a lovely place # Such a lovely place #

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APPLAUSE From The Eagles it's Glenn Frey and

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Joe Walsh. APPLAUSE

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Brilliant. That's welcome back to The One Show. It's nice to have you

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here. It's a very sad day, guys for British music today, because this

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morning a band called JLS announced that they were breaking up. Matt

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only stopped crying just before. I've just pulled myself together.

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Where were you when you heard the news. They're doing a farewell tour

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and greatest hits. What advice would you have for them as a band

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that has broken up in the past. How will they feel after the tour, what

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advice do we have for them? It's not that big a deal. We break up

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all the time. JLS fans will be happy to hear that. They might

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reconnect. I think you should break up for a long time. You know what I

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mean? Don't mess around.Like we broke up for 14 years. That worked

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really well for us. It's all in this brilliant documentary which we

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will talk more of as the evening progresses. JLS fans it goes

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without saying, my niece, she isn't happy. It got us thinking, which

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other bands breaking up have caused the most heartache?

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The Beatles split up in 1970, the Jam in 1982. In 1996 Take That

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split up. A terrible year for Matt. Now JLS have broken up, shock,

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horror. What happens when our favourite bands split up. I was

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upset when destiny's child broke up in particular. When the Jackson

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five broke up I was feeling pretty void and upset. No more dressing up

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like Mel B. Wondering who is going to fill that space in music. Hi got

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all of their T-shirts. I had Ronan, Stephen, all on there, then I

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thought great one for every day of the week an then they broke up and

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I thought oh, I can't wear them any more because it makes me too sad.

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was very hurt, very hurtment Why do you think it is that people get so

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affected? You don't quite know why you have this feeling inside you

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because part of you -- it becomes part of you. Together as girls, you

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weep about it. When they broke up, it leaves you nowhere to go.

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that a tear I can see? Not quite. Do you need a hug? Actually, I do.

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The perfect track for that as well. When you were growing up, lads,

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which bands were you really upset about when they split up?

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Beatles. Beatles. Were you incredibly upset, obviously there

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are JLS people out there that are distraught today. Your fans will

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have been the same when you split up the first time. I think we went

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out with a bit of a whimper. Really? What makes you say that?

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They went out with a bang. We just sort of stopped. Everything, the

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Beatles meant so much, it was not just the music with them. It was a

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phenomena that we were all part of this movement. It's what got you

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started as well. You saw them on the television. Yeah. We were sad

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when the Beatles broke up. other bands spring to mind?

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band called The Band. Yeah.They were a national treasure that band.

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The last waltz was beautiful, but that was their last show. I just

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always said they weren't done yet. You guys are still together and

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we'll be talking about your past and your future throwout the show

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tonight. Angela Rippon is back on the consumer warpath to protect the

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rights of One Show viewers. Isn't that right? Too right Alex. This

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time it's the fraudsters, who are stealing people's identities to

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borrow money from a company that claim that they're straight talking,

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but they don't always seem to be listening. They're the best known

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payday loans company in the business. Wonga.com, straight

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talking money. It seems that not all the money that flows through

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their system is as straight as the company might like. Some people who

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have never used a payday loan company have faced demands from

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Wonga for repayment or had money taken from their bank account.

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Thanks to fraudsters they've been saddled with someone else's debt.

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As a result they're being chased for hundreds, in some cases,

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thousands of pounds, that they don't actually owe. Victoria was a

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victim of fraud. She was baffled to receive a missed payment letter

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from Wonga.com saying that she owed them over �500, when she hadn't

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borrowed a penny. She didn't find it easy to put things right. How

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long did it take for them to respond to you? They said I had to

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ring the police for a crime log number. They said it would be 48

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hours, after I called them back. Hi to ring them again, they told me

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they had lost my phone number. And that I would wait another 48 hours

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for them to sort things out again. Eventually Wonga called Victoria

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and confirmed that the account mysteriously opened in her name and

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with her contact details had been closed down. But just two months

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later, she received another letter from Wonga, demanding repayment of

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�263 for a new loan, which, again, she had not taken out. If somebody

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had tried to open another account, why didn't it flash up on the

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screen saying this account was done for fraud again. This fraud expert

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believes it's not uncommon that with some companies it seems that

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the account that the money is paid into could not be the one from

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which it's going to be paid back. So even though you have never had

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the money, if a fraudster has used your details, it could be you

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that's asked to pay up. How can you open up an account if the name that

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you are giving is not the same as the bank account that you are going

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to put the money into? The name doesn't have any relationship to

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the bank account number. It's not something that a bank is going to

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check. They're just interested in the number itself of the account.

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It could be Joe Blogs. At the end of the day, the bank is going to

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put money into that account. This year, the Office of Fair Trading

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warned the top 50 payday loan companies that they must have

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adequate procedures to prevent identity fraud. They even closed

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down one payday loan company, MCO Capital and fined them �500,000,

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partly for failing to make sufficient ID checks. However,

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online pay day lenders insist they do have the right checks in place

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to protect their consumers. Nadia wouldn't agree. Criminals somehow

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got hold of her debit card details which she only discovered when

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Wonga took almost �1,000 from her account to pay off two loan that's

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she knew nothing about. She wasn't satisfied with their response. What

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was your reaction? I was pretty upset to be honest. Partly because

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I just was astounded that it was allowed to happen. Did they explain

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how it was that your card details were being used for someone else to

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get money in your name? There was no explanation whatsoever from

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Wonga. They just issued a standard statement saying they do take

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security measures. But ultimately, it seems like they are issuing

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loans to unscrupulous people and then not insisting that the same

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card details be used to pay back the loans. Nadia's bank refunded

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the stolen money. But she still wants answers as to how Wonga could

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let her card details be exploited. Wonga claim only 0.1% of

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transactions on their site are fraudulent. I wanted to know

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exactly what they're doing to tackle this sort of fraud and what

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they say to people like Nadia and Victoria, who are disappointed with

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how their problem was handled. The company didn't want to be

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interviewed. But I gave them a call to find out more. Are you confident

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that you have in place enough security to ensure that the public

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are protected? They stressed that what's happening here is criminal.

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And though they're confident that they're doing all they can to stop

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it, fraudsters will always find new ways to beat the system. Now it's

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just the vulnerability. You know your details are out there

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somewhere and that it could be Wonga, I'm not sure who else,

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basically anyone can access your card details and then be paying off

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a loan on someone else's behalf. You are adamant not to let this lie.

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Wonga have now made a further statement. What have they said now?

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As you'd expect, they say they're working closely with the police and

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experts to ensure that criminal cannot go on using their website in

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this way. They've also got selective software that actually

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declines two thirds of first-time applications. They also went on to

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say they do now have a dedicated team to deal with cases like Nadia

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and Victoria, but they do acknowledge that they could have

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handled their cases better and they do regret any additional stress

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that was caused to them. They're holding their hands up. Yes. This

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is a very stressful situation. Nadia and Vicky, like lots of other

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people, have written, reported the fraud, but yet these letters keep

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coming. What can they do now then? I tell you the first thing that

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every household should do, invest in buying a shredder. They're not

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very expensive, but it could be the best investment you've ever made.

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It's quite cathartic. It's good for you. It's like pressing those

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bubble things. It's great. It's so liberating. And you should treat

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any of your personal details that give access to your money like the

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crown jewels, protect them. If you have any piece of paper with

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details of your bank, credit card, mortgage of anything you have

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bought online and through the post, shred it because any time you let

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down your defences the criminals will find a way in. You have also,

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you really must, you just have to keep going on at companies like

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Wonga and the rest of them and say you know, that this is fraudulent.

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But you must also get in touch with every other company with whom you

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have any kind of commercial transaction and say to them, I've

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been the victim of fraud, you must keep an eye out on everything on my

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account just in case there's some sort of unusual action. The other

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thing to do, if you don't get any satisfaction, you can make a formal

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complaints to the financial ombudsmen. It wasn't long before

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that film started, you were saying, this is the real deal. I presume

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you've been victims of fraud in the past? Well, we're both broke, so

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nobody... LAUGHTER

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They've tried hard. They've failed. That's why we're here. You won't

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get much from this lot. I bought an expensive dinner at a restaurant

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and they gave me back somebody else's card and they gave him mine.

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We both used them for a couple of days before we caught it. I'm

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telling you, I paid for some weird stuff. Your credit card was having

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more fun than you. When you got your statement back, did you see

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what he was buying? Equally as weird? Yeah. OK. There's a study

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out yesterday by Ofcom and it said maybe you boys aren't very good

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with this either, about protecting your passwords and how to come up

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with really hard ones. They discovered that 55% of the people

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in it country use exactly the same password for every single online

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account, bad idea guys. Change it. Also, apparently one in four of us

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can't actually remember the password. So, viewers, for the

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eagles and everybody else, we want to you get involved in this. We

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know that you've all got brilliant ideas when it comes to things like

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passwords. What we want is for you to get in touch with us on the

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programme before the end of the programme, e-mail us with any tips

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you have got on how you can really make a very, very difficult, hard

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to crack password and more importantly, how you can remember

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it. Then I will read out some of them at end profit Graeme. We have

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a couple of friends here who might find that useful. Keep talk -- at

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the end of the programme. We might have a couple of friends here who

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might find that useful. Sophie Morgan knows all too well

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the risks of driving too fast, after being in a crash as a

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teenager which left her paralysed. That makes her investigation into

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the craze of illegal street car Police released this footage of

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cars being raced on public roads at up to 120mph. It helped convict 250

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people, all of whom were banned from driving and fined for taking

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part. But events like this are

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surprisingly common, as I have discovered when making Licence to

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Kill. A film about why traffic accidents are the single biggest

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killer of young people. Across the country large groups regularly meet

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up at weekends or late at night to show off or race their supercharged

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cars and bikes. Car cruises, like this one, are arranged online. The

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locations change so they can stay one step ahead of the police. It's

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pointless meeting there, police are all over it. They have been for the

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last year. Police blocked everyone in. My mate's MG got taken off him.

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It's obviously illegal because all the messages are panicking about

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where the police are going to come. I want to try and understand these

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drivers' need for speed and see if they realise the dangers of driving

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too fast. Something I discovered for myself

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ten years ago. Aged 18 I was a total wild child and my driving was

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just as crazy. Six months after passing my driving test I was

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speeding. I misjudged a corner, and the car tpreuped -- flipped over.

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I woke up in hospital confused and completely terrified. It was then

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that I realised that I couldn't feel my body and that I was

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paralysed. I have lived with the consequences of my own bad driving

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ever since. As I set off for a car cruise in Manchester on an

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industrial estate, I don't get the sense that everyone going takes the

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risks seriously. I am really nervous about this.

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Ever since my accident I've been scared of speeding and there's

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going to be a lot of speeding It's crazy!

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This is madness. I feel like I have been transported to another world

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where rules and fear don't exist. Look, look!

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It was hard to hear above the noise, but I want to know what brings

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people to these skraepbts. Do you - - events. Do you race? Got a police

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mark on my car. Speed's like a drug really. You can't stay at 30mph.

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You look for a race? Yeah, gets the adrenalin rush going. I was an

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inexperienced kid driving badly. This is different, you know, this

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is a different environment. It scares me. Not everyone here

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tonight has come to race. You can see, just because you have come

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down doesn't mean you are going to be going up and down. Looking at

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other people going past. As the night wears on some drivers take

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more and Morris bgs. -- more risks. They're behaving as if they're

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It's dangerous. The bikes are more dangerous? Of course.So you are

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not scared of having an accident? No. What if you weren't killed but

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were in a state and you couldn't ride a bike again. I was paralysed,

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that doesn't bother you, you are not thinking about that? No. That

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would be awful. Probably take my life. You would kill yourself.I

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wouldn't want to be like that. just annoy me now. That slap in the

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face when life happens, hasn't happened to them but I fear for the

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day when thoef face the consequences of having fun. As

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things get wilder, it feels like a miracle the night passes without

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disaster. Not all such events do. And you can see more on Licence to

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Kill which airs tonight at 9.00pm on BBC Three. You were saying

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watching that, you remember being crazy as youngsters but now you

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watch that from a father's perspective. A parent's perspective,

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yeah. The adolescence is temporary insanity anyway and I only started

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looking back on my own when I had adolescent kids and you start

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thinking, what did you do when you were 15? What did you do when you

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were 17? You know, Joe and I looked and went, oh! We weren't exactly

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thinking safely and stuff. They say the - part of your brain that

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doesn't stop growing, especially in men, until they're about 24 and

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it's the part that has to do with executive functioning, getting

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organised, what's dangerous. Stuff like that. But you know, it's like

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- we said, you know, you feel like you are bulletproof when you are 17,

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it can't possibly happen. Do you say that to your children now?

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Obviously, they're going to look back, I don't know if they've seen

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this documentary, but there's wild stuff. It's frustrating being a

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parent and trying to save your kids' time. Right, yeah. That's

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interesting. When they see some of the things that you have shown in

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the documentary how do you react to that? It's awkward because you have

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done it, so why can't they do it? It's that type of thing. For sure,

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you know, this is a story that's taking place all over the world,

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wherever young people drive. You just sort of hope everybody gets

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through it. I can't believe they wouldn't be able to crack down on

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this. Exactly. Let's have a little look back at some of the highlights

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from what's been just the most incredible... More other dangerous

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driving! Here is the lovely good # Take it easy

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The question was, who can handle it? Who could function? Who could

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show up? That tension had a lot to do with

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the artistic fire, having that dynamic. It was important in making

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the music. # Take it to the limit one more

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING Yes! As we saw there... I am exhausted. I am

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so tired now. I bet you are after all that! As we saw, the

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documentary really is a mixture of interviews with Eagles, pags and

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present -- past and present, and it's interspers--ed with footage of

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you messing about back stage, on stage from back in the day. Did you

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know that you had all that footage to hand and those brilliant

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photographs or was any of you responsible for keeping a record of

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it? We knew for a long time we wanted to do the history of The

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Eagles, we didn't know when we were going to start the project for sure.

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From the time we got back together in 94 we had cameras in every place,

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but in the early 70s we just got very very -- lucky. Henry had a

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camera he brought to a photofoot for all the gun fighting. And Kodak

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came out with a camera in 74, I bought one and Don and we took them

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on the road and started filming everything and we would be on stage

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and Irvine would be filming us playing. Is this stuff you put in a

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drawer then and didn't see for years? Irvine had it and it was

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really in his closet, just a tub full of these little video

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cassettes that you popped into this old time thing. Then the people

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that made the film started to unearth all this other stuff, like

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us playing with Linda Ronstadt. We were able to find a tremendous

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amount of footage from the 70s which really visually makes the

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story much more interesting as a film. The question is, I suppose,

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how do you go about putting a documentary like this in order? How

:23:54.:23:57.

do you sort out all the stills and footage? Did you have a hand in it

:23:57.:24:06.

at all, Joe? Glenn really handpicked a guy to do it. We made

:24:06.:24:11.

a great hire, the Guy's name is Alex. Originally, they sent me a

:24:12.:24:17.

bunch of documentaries of different bands to look at and I was

:24:17.:24:21.

uninspired so I said to people in our office, send me reels of the

:24:21.:24:26.

guys who won the Academy Award for the Best Documentary the last five

:24:26.:24:32.

years and there was this guy Alex, who won an award for Taxi to The

:24:32.:24:38.

Dark Side about Guantanamo and another about the Enron scandal.

:24:39.:24:42.

And his reel was just - you couldn't take your eyes tauf. I

:24:42.:24:46.

said what about this guy? I don't care what he knows about music, he

:24:46.:24:51.

is a great story-teller, I can't take my eyes off every frame. Can I

:24:51.:24:56.

meet him? I went to New York and we met Alex. He's done a fantastic job.

:24:56.:24:59.

He sits you down and you talk about each other and the events that

:24:59.:25:03.

happened. What was the one thing that another Eagle said that really

:25:03.:25:08.

surprised you or were you all so open that you had no secrets?

:25:08.:25:12.

thing Joe said that really blew my mind and it was a speech he made in

:25:12.:25:16.

part one, you know, we were talking about how events started happening

:25:17.:25:23.

to us so fast and so - multiple things were crashing into us and he

:25:23.:25:28.

said, it was chaos but when you looked back on it it looked like a

:25:28.:25:34.

finely crafted novel. I thought, man, does that really clock a lot

:25:34.:25:39.

of what happened to us. You have to write a song about that now, surely.

:25:39.:25:43.

That's a great title for a song or some food for thought. It all

:25:43.:25:46.

started for you in London, it was your first album. You came over

:25:47.:25:52.

here because of the producer, he wouldn't come to you. Yeah, that's

:25:52.:25:59.

right. We wanted to record with a British producer because we loved

:25:59.:26:03.

the bass and drum sound on the British records and Glenn said he

:26:04.:26:07.

would produce us, but you have to come to London. We came to London

:26:07.:26:14.

and stayed on Kings Road. Did you like it? Yes, we loved it win we

:26:14.:26:17.

came over -- when we came over here, we couldn't believe we were in

:26:17.:26:23.

London. A lot of good things were happening, 71, 72, 73. It was a big

:26:23.:26:32.

music scene, we got to meet the guy in The Faces and we got to you meet

:26:32.:26:37.

all the British rock stars, it was very cool. When we were over here

:26:37.:26:41.

Joe was over here. He wasn't in The Eagles, but he came over way early

:26:41.:26:47.

too and toured with The Who. Yeah. And studied under Keith Moon.

:26:47.:26:51.

kind of always wanted that kind of more rockier side of it. It was a

:26:51.:26:56.

big shot in the arm when Joe joined The Eagles, no doubt about that.

:26:56.:27:06.
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are going to talk more as we go on. The Eagles are still going strong

:27:07.:27:09.

and we will hear more about future plans later on. If the tension

:27:09.:27:16.

wasn't enough before, it's rising now, because our garden design

:27:16.:27:21.

finalists are still - still have a wait before we find out whose

:27:21.:27:25.

garden garden design will be shown at Hampton Court Palace. That

:27:25.:27:32.

decision it down to our judges. Christine Walkden saw them put our

:27:32.:27:41.

competitors through their paces. We have received nearly 300 entries,

:27:41.:27:48.

and the junction have -- judges have three worthy finalists. Young

:27:48.:27:54.

mum Helen from London, Michelle an architect from Sussex, and artist

:27:54.:27:59.

Vicky from Northamptonshire. Today's finals are in two parts.

:27:59.:28:06.

First, they have to put their designs to the judges.

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Judges, what are we looking for? Louise? It's the passion of the

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amateur. That's what the competition is for. What do you

:28:16.:28:20.

want? Creativity. The enthusiasm and imagination that's gone into

:28:20.:28:24.

the design of the garden. Dave, an RHS man, what are your

:28:24.:28:29.

expectations? For me, it's the wow factor. We want something that's

:28:29.:28:34.

going to amaize visitors. Each contestants has two minutes to sell

:28:34.:28:38.

their idea. The previous was to create a family friendly garden for

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the Hampton Court Palace Flower Show and first up it's Helen with a

:28:41.:28:46.

garden that's full of adventure for children. It's a garden full of the

:28:46.:28:56.

fondest memories from my childhood and a garden with a big sense of

:28:56.:29:00.

scale scale. Next is Michelle with a garden she says has spaces that

:29:00.:29:08.

are flexible for all the family. But can she convince the judges?

:29:08.:29:13.

There's a den surrounded by lots of tall planting and edible climbers

:29:13.:29:16.

that creates a lovely space for children to play and hide. Finally,

:29:17.:29:23.

it's Vicky with a garden full of imagination. Here we have a Wendy

:29:23.:29:28.

house with a slide around the outside. I wanted it to have the

:29:28.:29:33.

idea that you have been shrunk down and are placed on a forest floor.

:29:33.:29:37.

The judges have a lot to think about. But to help them make up

:29:37.:29:40.

their minds the final task for the finalists is a planting challenge.

:29:40.:29:44.

We are asking them to create a springboard with plants they

:29:44.:29:48.

haven't seen until now. What we are interested in is seeing how they

:29:48.:29:57.

Ladies, you have 60 minutes. Start now!

:29:58.:30:01.

The challenge is not as straightforward as it looks. The

:30:01.:30:05.

contestants have a lot of plants to choose from. All of which require

:30:05.:30:08.

different growing conditions, so they'll have to be really careful

:30:08.:30:18.
:30:18.:30:21.

Michelle is choosing purples and pinks to create a vibrant display

:30:21.:30:24.

and she's also thinking about positioning the bigger plants at

:30:24.:30:32.

the back. Vicky wants her boreder to look established and has

:30:32.:30:37.

selected contrasting shades reflecting her artistic flair.

:30:37.:30:46.

Ladies, you're halfway. Helen has decided she's planting a flower bed

:30:46.:30:53.

as you would at home with plenty of space for things to grow. Finalists,

:30:53.:31:03.
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you have ten more minutes! Five, four, three, two, one. Stop,

:31:03.:31:09.

please! The judges must take into consideration both the designs for

:31:09.:31:13.

the Hampton Court Palace Flower Show and the contestant's

:31:13.:31:18.

performances in the planting challenge. What did you think of

:31:18.:31:23.

Helen's work? I like the design. I thought she did really well in her

:31:23.:31:27.

pitch. She let herself down with the planting. I agree. I think it

:31:27.:31:33.

was totally sparse. With Michelle's garden design, the amount of gravel

:31:33.:31:37.

that she had on the floor compared to the amount of planting material

:31:37.:31:43.

is a worry. What did you think of her planting? The plants would work

:31:43.:31:50.

well together and you would see that in a normal garden. Vicky's

:31:50.:31:54.

garden felt very cohesive, both the design and planting, it felt like

:31:54.:31:57.

it was part of the same package. With her design, I'm worried about

:31:57.:32:00.

the amount of structures and materials that would need to go

:32:00.:32:04.

into the garden. Personally, I think all three of these designs

:32:04.:32:12.

would look great at Hampton Court. And the judges are still talking. I

:32:12.:32:14.

actually think they're finding it quite tough.

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APPLAUSE Do you know, I sound like Bruce

:32:21.:32:24.

here, but they're all my favourites. They really are. Helen, Michelle

:32:24.:32:29.

and Vicky, we don't want to worry you, OK, but whoever wins, I can

:32:29.:32:32.

tell you, you have got some hard work ahead of you. What has the

:32:33.:32:40.

winner let herself in for? Welcome to the Harrogate Flower Show. It

:32:40.:32:43.

doesn't officially open to the public until tomorrow, but we've

:32:43.:32:49.

been granted a sneak peak. Helen, Michelle and Vicky there is the

:32:49.:32:55.

calibre of garden we expect. This was designed by Lizzie Tulip. What

:32:55.:33:00.

goes into creating a garden like yours? A lot of hard work actually.

:33:00.:33:03.

Yes, there's about eight months of planning and preparation an design

:33:03.:33:06.

work gone into the garden. We've been on site for about two weeks

:33:06.:33:11.

constructing. We have a ten-metre dry stone wall that's in the garden.

:33:11.:33:15.

Two weeks is a lot to achieve actually. I have an amazing team of

:33:15.:33:20.

people behind me. That would be my tip, get a great team of people.

:33:20.:33:24.

These hands have definitely done some hard work. They're green

:33:24.:33:28.

fingers. Now tell me about those wooden balls that you have. They're

:33:28.:33:35.

not wooden. They're willow. It's a type of wood. Willow spheres by an

:33:35.:33:40.

artist called Rachel Carter. The idea is that they are woven in

:33:40.:33:44.

between the planting to pull all the spaces together. It looks

:33:44.:33:47.

marvellous. You've done a great job and it's beautiful. We appreciate

:33:47.:33:50.

it. Well done. Lizzie has been coming to the Harrogate Flower Show

:33:50.:33:55.

for years, but there are some novices here, including Rachel, who

:33:55.:33:59.

has created this. This is the wedding gift garden. What a lovely

:33:59.:34:04.

idea. Where did that come from? particularly inspired bit idea of

:34:04.:34:08.

creating a garden as a wedding gift. This is created around the sybolism

:34:08.:34:14.

of connected rings. We've got the lovely timber deck and then the

:34:14.:34:18.

beautiful soft green lawn ring and of course, we have the beautiful

:34:18.:34:23.

sphere sun dial. It's beautiful, so creative. Alex, Matt, apparently

:34:23.:34:27.

later they want me to do some flower arranging. Just because I

:34:27.:34:30.

have green finger nails does not mean I have green fingers. We'll

:34:30.:34:37.

see about that later. Put on some gloves. The Beatles garden sounds

:34:37.:34:42.

good. Were you out with the Beatles the other night there? Were you

:34:42.:34:52.
:34:52.:34:56.

with Paul and Ringo? Yeah. Come on. That is so cool. Yes! Ringo is my

:34:56.:35:04.

brother in law. Is he?Yeah. Your proper brother in law? Yes. My wife

:35:05.:35:14.
:35:15.:35:15.

is his wife's sister. I and my wife and Barbara were all at chez

:35:15.:35:22.

stadium togtd -- shea Stadium together, where we saw the Beatles.

:35:22.:35:26.

Was it a good lunch? No, we didn't meet each other for a long time

:35:26.:35:29.

after. But I was screaming and crying with the rest of the girls,

:35:29.:35:35.

I tell you. Any way, Paul was in town. Yeah, we had dinner.

:35:35.:35:39.

Everybody thought we were up to something. But basically, I just

:35:39.:35:47.

sat there and they talked. We want to play more of the Eagles music.

:35:47.:35:50.

This is the end of hotel California. This was a bit of a battleground

:35:50.:36:00.
:36:00.:36:14.

It went on for like seven-and-a- half minutes. It was like the

:36:14.:36:17.

longest song. The record company was saying cut it down to four

:36:17.:36:20.

minutes, but every time it was played, you'd have this battle with

:36:20.:36:29.

Don, how would you know who had won? Well, when it got time to put

:36:29.:36:37.

guitars on, we decided that each of us would make individual statements

:36:37.:36:44.

in the body of the song and at the end we would have a go at it. He

:36:44.:36:49.

and I were always kind of competitive. That was a good energy

:36:49.:36:54.

because we really did push each other. We really did. We were

:36:54.:36:59.

competitive. You were out Alpha males in that documentsary --

:36:59.:37:03.

documentary. There were a bunch of Alpha males in the band. We knew we

:37:03.:37:08.

wanted that ending to go for a long way. We knew we had a couple of

:37:08.:37:12.

guitar players that could burn it. When we cut the track, we kept

:37:12.:37:16.

playing the verse progression over and over again. OK yeah, that's one

:37:16.:37:20.

solo. Then there'll be another solo there. Then maybe you can play

:37:20.:37:27.

something back-and-forth together there. Then Joe said, let's do some

:37:27.:37:32.

da-da-la. Henley and I were working on lyrics and we would tell the

:37:32.:37:35.

guys on the band, go out to dinner tonight, take a break, we're

:37:35.:37:41.

working on this, we'll let you know when we're done. And Joe and felled

:37:41.:37:44.

felled told Henry and I, we're working on something, why don't you

:37:44.:37:49.

take a break and go to dinner. Come back and we'll figure something out

:37:49.:37:53.

and that's exactly how that happened. We left the studio about

:37:53.:37:58.

3pm and came back about 11pm at night. Two thirds of the ending had

:37:58.:38:07.

been kind of figured out. decided to play together at the end

:38:07.:38:14.

because that way neither of us would win. Nice. It's a fairway.

:38:14.:38:19.

The history of The Eagles is out on DVD on money. Now The One Show hot

:38:19.:38:23.

air balloon hasn't been out for a little white. Well, that is why

:38:23.:38:28.

Mike Dilger decided to fire it up again and cast his eagle eye over a

:38:28.:38:35.

centuries' old mystery. Dartmoor is Britain's most in tact prehistoric

:38:35.:38:38.

landscape with evidence of human activity dating as far back as the

:38:38.:38:43.

Stone Age. Scattered amongst these pre-historic sites are the remains

:38:43.:38:49.

of a much later, but quite extraordinary farming boom. Across

:38:49.:38:54.

the country, mysterious mounds like these cause debate amongst

:38:54.:38:58.

archaeologists up until the 1930s. Many suggesting they must be

:38:58.:39:02.

ancient burial mounds or long barrows. But these lumps of rge and

:39:02.:39:07.

rock are actually the remnants of man-made rabbit warns, known as

:39:07.:39:12.

pillow mounds. What we're looking at here is actually a landscape

:39:12.:39:17.

that's been entirely created by humans in the past. 8,000 years ago,

:39:17.:39:21.

the top of Dartmoor was covered by trees. Slowly humans have removed

:39:21.:39:28.

that tree cover. Towards the end of this clearance, the climate started

:39:28.:39:32.

to cool, changing how the land could be used. Because of the

:39:32.:39:36.

climate change, the peat started to build up. Our soil now is very

:39:36.:39:41.

peaty. That peat was no good for growing crops and things. Without

:39:41.:39:45.

being able to grow vital food, most people move add way from the

:39:45.:39:49.

moorland and onto pastures new. But that wasn't the end of farming here

:39:50.:39:55.

on Dartmoor. 2,000 years later when the Normans invaded they brought

:39:55.:39:58.

with them a type of farming which Britain had never seen before,

:39:58.:40:04.

rabbit farming. Although rabbits are everywhere now, they're not

:40:04.:40:07.

native to the UK. The Romans brought them over in small numbers,

:40:07.:40:12.

but it was the norm afpbs who imported them on a large scale --

:40:12.:40:16.

Normans who imported them on a large scale to be farmed. Liz has

:40:16.:40:22.

been living and working on Dartmoor all her life. What the warreners

:40:22.:40:27.

did, they needed to create a dry home for the rabbits. They piled up

:40:27.:40:33.

big bolders of granite. That's what we have here. They would infill

:40:33.:40:36.

with soil and rocks and turf the top to keep it weather proof.

:40:36.:40:41.

There's a Trench here. Sure, that goes all the way round. That's a

:40:41.:40:47.

common feature of all the pillow mounds. Without these warrens the

:40:47.:40:49.

rabbits wouldn't have been able to survive because the conditions are

:40:50.:40:54.

too wet. By creating the perfect home for them, with food, it meant

:40:54.:40:58.

they had no need to go elsewhere. And it was so successful, the

:40:58.:41:07.

fences weren't even needed to keep them in. They couldn't use it

:41:07.:41:13.

because it's above ground. It is a very sociable animal, good source

:41:13.:41:19.

of meat and fur and breeding like the proverbial. The best way to

:41:19.:41:22.

truly appreciate how important this trade was for Dartmoor is to get

:41:22.:41:29.

above it. So we're heading up in The One Show balloon. This is the

:41:29.:41:34.

first time Liz has seen Dartmoor from the air. From above, we get a

:41:34.:41:38.

unique view of the prehistoric landscape. You can see all those

:41:38.:41:41.

lumps there, this area is incredible for the density of

:41:41.:41:46.

pillow mounds. We have more here on Dartmoor than anywhere else in the

:41:46.:41:50.

worldment Where are they --World. Why are they on slopes? They need

:41:50.:41:55.

to be free draining. Rabbits hate water. If they were across the

:41:55.:41:59.

slope, they would gather water. Down slope the water runs down them

:41:59.:42:06.

and past them and keep the bunnies nice and warm rplt Warm. Rabbit

:42:06.:42:09.

warrening continued on Dartmoor until the 1950s when myxomatosis

:42:10.:42:14.

and an act brought in against the invasive species put an end to any

:42:14.:42:22.

ideas for a future for the industry. Whilst the rabbit is considered a

:42:22.:42:27.

serious agricultural pet by many farmers, as a field biologist I'm

:42:27.:42:30.

pleased they're still part of this landscape just like the pillow

:42:30.:42:33.

mounds they used to live in down below.

:42:33.:42:40.

We got out there before Mike had landed. Joe said, the only problem

:42:40.:42:45.

with hot air ballooning is, "You don't land. You crash." The Eagles

:42:45.:42:47.

are here talking about their document aefrplt we love the scene

:42:47.:42:51.

where you're in the desert and inspired by this spiritual

:42:51.:42:57.

encounter. Let's have a look. I had to go to the bathroom. So I

:42:57.:43:03.

left the camp site and I hear the guys yelling from the camp fire,

:43:03.:43:10.

"Eagle!" I look up and it's soaring right above me, huge wing span. I'm

:43:10.:43:13.

like scuffling to get my pants back up, I'm slipping, I fall down. And

:43:14.:43:23.

the birds kind of goes, eagles huh? I don't think. So Well, the reason

:43:23.:43:27.

we're keeping our voice down is because we would like to bring you

:43:27.:43:31.

closer. I'm sure many TV programmes have done this to you before. This

:43:31.:43:36.

is Nikita. Kris is behind. Hello. Good to see you from Warwick castle.

:43:36.:43:44.

Tell us the story about Nikita Miquita is missing Stanley, one of

:43:44.:43:48.

our -- Nikita is missing Stanley, one of our eagles. He's gone absent

:43:48.:43:51.

without leave. He flew off maybe, we give the birds a lot of freedom.

:43:51.:43:56.

They soar around the sky, just like your bird on the film there. But he

:43:56.:44:00.

was about three quarters of a mile down wind and then gradually

:44:00.:44:05.

drifted away and then got lost effectively. He's been feeding

:44:05.:44:09.

himself on dead rabbits and dead sheep and pretty much anything he's

:44:09.:44:15.

finding. We are missing him. Nikita here sits and pines away for him.

:44:15.:44:20.

She's missing him. Have there been any sightings of Stan? We've had

:44:20.:44:24.

hundreds and hundreds of sightings of him. On a lot of occasions we

:44:24.:44:30.

can go out and see him, and he's sitting in a tree and it's

:44:30.:44:34.

incredibly frustrating not to be able to get him back. He's like one

:44:34.:44:37.

of our children because he's been there for ten years. If he's doing

:44:37.:44:42.

all right and if he is thriving, is there a chance you will leave him?

:44:42.:44:45.

We would like to get him back, that's the thing. Of course, he

:44:45.:44:49.

does seem to be doing very well. It just really depends on where he

:44:49.:44:57.

goes. White tail see gulls natural -- eagles habitat is the coast. In

:44:57.:45:01.

Northamptonshire, currently, where our last sighting was, there isn't

:45:01.:45:06.

a lot of fish. Just dead sheep. Glenn, this is Kris's last-ditch

:45:06.:45:10.

attempt to get Stanley back, will you down the barely there of camera

:45:10.:45:15.

four give us a heart-felt message, to see if any viewers know where

:45:15.:45:20.

Stan is. Stan, from one Eagle to another, I'm asking you please,

:45:20.:45:26.

come home. Nikita misses you, Kris misses you and the visitors to

:45:26.:45:31.

Warwick castle miss you. If that's not going to work, I don't know

:45:31.:45:35.

what will happen. Nikita is responding to that. If you think

:45:35.:45:45.
:45:45.:45:49.

you've seen Stan, please let us Our next guest is an American

:45:49.:45:52.

stand-up. She's looking at us!He can't help but point out the

:45:52.:45:57.

differences between us. I was back in Georgia recently,

:45:57.:46:02.

first thing they want to do is ask me about Britain. First question. A

:46:02.:46:10.

lot of white people? I bet there's a lot of white people over there. I

:46:10.:46:15.

say, man, this is where they make white people. Britain has more of a

:46:15.:46:19.

class issue and I had to explain a class system is what you use to

:46:19.:46:27.

discriminate against people who look like you. And Reginald D

:46:27.:46:33.

Hunter is here. APPLAUSE You look more comfortable

:46:33.:46:39.

now sitting next to these Eagles than next to Nikita. Yeah, I am

:46:39.:46:47.

more comfortable. Good!The dude put the bird on my hand and the

:46:47.:46:53.

cameraman said we want you to look scared. Did you use to play The

:46:53.:46:56.

Eagles in your household? No, I had old black parents and they were

:46:56.:47:01.

Christian, there was a lot of funky black music they didn't like. My

:47:01.:47:05.

sisters and stuff they had some Eagles albums and stuff and I

:47:05.:47:13.

remember digging it, but when I started, that's when Mr Fry was on

:47:13.:47:23.
:47:23.:47:23.

his own and I hope you don't feel disrespected. I liked it, too.

:47:23.:47:27.

have been here for 16 years and based yourself here. Do you go back

:47:27.:47:32.

home much? Occasionally, yes.Right. We are going to ask to you get off

:47:32.:47:36.

the fence now and choose between the UK and the USA. We have

:47:36.:47:41.

categories here for you. Basically, this is humour. This

:47:41.:47:47.

sign here. Who's funniest, Britain or America? You are trying to make

:47:48.:47:54.

it so I will never be able to go back home. Think won't see this,

:47:54.:48:00.

don't worry. I work primarily in one market now. Um... Humour,

:48:00.:48:07.

humour, humour! Oh, no, I don't know. I really don't. I don't

:48:07.:48:10.

really - I don't think of it in those terms. You know what, I know

:48:10.:48:18.

what will make you feel good, put it there on the left. Good lad. We

:48:18.:48:24.

can give you a choice, music, food, sport? Or telly. Lead and I will

:48:24.:48:33.

follow. Sport.OK then. Um... I am going to pick us. Yeah. I know

:48:33.:48:37.

there's football fans across the country going, what, Reg is

:48:37.:48:43.

choosing American sports! Is that football or soccer you are talking

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about. I am more of a baseball man. Food. That's not even a discussion.

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Put it with the stars over there. You are going to be kicked out soon.

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I understand what you are saying, man, but when couples get together

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you don't hear anybody saying, let's eat British tonight.

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these hot topics and stuff you are talking about when you are on tour

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and you are back on the road then. Where are you going? All over the

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shop. Probably not going to talk about these things, because when

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the audience come to my shows I try to put them on couldn't stapbt

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reent -- constant relentless come comedic. They told me not to talk

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about on this show. The differences between the UK and USA is rich

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pickings for new your routines, has been since you started, but what

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are the main misconceptions that your family in the USA think about

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the UK? My mother was scared for me to be living over here because in

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her mind anywhere outside of the United States is near Iraq.

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geography is bad, but not that bad! Was she happier as the years

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progressed? She died before the war ended, so no. OK. Reg's new tour In

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The Midst of Crackers starts in Cheltenham on May 2nd, and

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continues all over the UK into June. Tomato or tomato? Let's call the

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whole thing off. We are off to Scotland where Sarah McHas been to

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visit a man on a mission to bring back an industry that's been

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withered on the vine for decades. Tonight we import roughly three

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quarters of all the tomatoes we eat but that wasn't always the case. 50

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years ago, Scotland's cloud valley was lined with glass houses

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producing tomatoes renowned for their flavour. And enough to feed

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the entire country. Tomato growing on a commercial scale is carried on

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and in this part of the country glass houses cover many acres.

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there were hundreds of Scots tomato growers, today a handful remain.

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Cheaper imports meant that by the end of the 1970s many of these

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glass houses were lying empty, shells of an almost forgotten past.

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Now a young entrepreneur is trying to give the Scottish tomato a

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makeover. Since December, David Craig has been living on site next

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to his greenhouse, carefully cultivating 14 varieties of

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tomatoes, including a heritage called Ailsa Craig. Although the

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extremely cold winter has delayed the harvest, he's finally seen the

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fruits of his efforts. David, these are the first punnets? They are

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indeed. How excited are you? Extremely and it's been hard work

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but we are almost there. David will be selling tomatoes throughout

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Scotland and also hopes to expand into northern England. There's a

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long tradition of tomato growing in this part of the world and the

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Clyde Valley. Do you feel you are following on from that tradition?

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Absolutely. Do you have an element of a micro micro climate in the

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Clyde Valley. We are learning lots of skills that have been developed

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here for many, many years. They were at risk of dying out, so there

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was a very strong chance that this industry would disappear in a few

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years' time. So, we are proud to be following on from that heritage and

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evolving it, as well. A key part of the effort is David's mentor, Jim,

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Craig, whose family had grown fruit here since 1910 until Jim retired.

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We are on the site of a former glasshouse. It has seen better days.

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Yes, it's the way of most of the glasshouses around here. Most have

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died out. In its heydey how big was the industry? Massive around here.

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In the immediate area, 300 growing. When did it go wrong?

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greenhouses had reached the end of their working life and as road

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transport became better the market got squeezed out. It was easier to

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bring things from Holland or Guernsey or even from England.

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There's only four four growers growing tomatoes left in central

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Scotland definitely, and most of Scotland. Have you been a mentor to

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David. Are you managing to just guide him? Yes.Gently nudge him.

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What do these tomatoes actually taste like? Neil is a former

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Scottish chef of the year and he's come to try them out. They're

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beautiful to look at. But to taste them, they're just wonderful.

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They're so sweet. That is delicious. It seems like the Scottish tomato

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industry isn't ready to sail into the sunset just yet.

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Thank you very much, Sarah. Delicious tomatoes. Angela is back

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with some - listen closely, you two, with password advice. Well, I

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should be but I have to tell you what our viewers who are amazing,

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we had so many people e-mailing us, our entire network has crashed.

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It's about the best protection you can get! The whole system has

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crashed down. We can't actually bring you too much of - but your PR

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man, Paul, he said because the ideal way to have a really good

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password is to have a combination of letters and numbers and he said

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he uses old car registration numbers, cars people would never

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know he owned. I can tell you is what you shouldn't do, make them

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too easy, your family name or birthday or anything anybody could

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think is your password. Make it as complicated as you can. Good advice.

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Thank you very much. It's almost time, bekeep saying this, it's

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almost time for Helen Michelle and Vicky to find out whose design is

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going to be featured at the Hampton Court Palace Flower Show this year.

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Let's go back to Anita in the marquee.

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As if by magic, I am putting in the final flowers. I have been under

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the watch watchful eye of San ra. - - Sandra. Brilliant.You have a

:55:32.:55:35.

special exhibition sell brighting - - celebrating the 50th anniversary

:55:35.:55:38.

of the release of the first Beatles album. We have.How long have you

:55:38.:55:42.

taken to plan this display? started planning about last

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September. Quite a while.Yes, we have had on paper. How many worked

:55:50.:55:56.

on it? About 26.Let's have a look. Here it is. Hello, ladies! All hard

:55:56.:56:04.

at work. Over here we have I am The Walrus and over there Strawberry

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Feels. In -- Fields. In the middle The Yellow Submarine. Let's put the

:56:09.:56:12.

final piece on. The Harrogate Flower Show opens tomorrow, are you

:56:12.:56:15.

going to be ready? We are, just about. Well done T looks gorgeous

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to us. That's it from here in Harrogate. Michelle, Helen and

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Vicky, best of luck to you. We are all here on the edge of the sofas

:56:27.:56:31.

and waiting the winner to be named, and also Chris fine and Adam Frost

:56:31.:56:35.

are here. What will you be doing from now until the Hampton Court

:56:35.:56:39.

Flower Show? I will be ensuring that the winner makes the right

:56:39.:56:45.

selection of plants so it complements the design and people

:56:45.:56:49.

go wow when they see it. Adam? will be doing what she tells me, I

:56:49.:56:55.

think. Sensible!I will be just making sure this thing gets - it's

:56:55.:56:58.

an amazing prize. I am going to make sure it's a pleasure, this

:56:58.:57:01.

journey is going to be a pleasure for whoever wins. Our lovely

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finalists have been waiting all night. Glenn, put them out of their

:57:07.:57:17.
:57:17.:57:18.

misery and reveal the winner. boy! A lot of pressure. The winner

:57:18.:57:28.
:57:28.:57:30.

is... Vicky! APPLAUSE AND CHEERING Yes! Vicky, Vicky! Step forward, -

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your garden will be on show at Hampton Court Palace. How about

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that. Well done. Adam, could you step forward into the garden and

:57:38.:57:45.

just tell us about the challenges with this one. Wow! I feel a bit

:57:45.:57:50.

like the Mad Hatter. Best way to describe this garden, everything is

:57:50.:57:55.

going to be larger than life. This side we have a slide and I am

:57:55.:57:59.

underneath this massive toadstool and seats underneath. This is all

:57:59.:58:05.

about atmosphere. How the landscape will make this larger than life is

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going to be the most difficult challenge but I am sure we will

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give it a good go. It's vibrant. Like Vicky's hair. You got tearful

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there, how are you feeling? It's brilliant. Thank you so much.

:58:17.:58:20.

Everyone was wonderful and it was wonderful meeting brilliant people,

:58:20.:58:23.

as well. It's going to be great seeing the garden brought to life.

:58:23.:58:28.

I am looking forward to it, it's something I have always wanted to

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do, to get the opportunity is amazing. Congratulations again. And

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we will be following the progress of Vicky's garden over the next few

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months and revealing it live from Hampton Court Palace in July.

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Thanks to Glenn, to Joe, to Reg and to Angela. The History of The

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