25/04/2013 The One Show

Alex Jones and Matt Baker. Tonight's guest is not here to talk about his

showbiz career or his ability to churn out hit musical after hit

musical. The night he slips into a very different role and he's not

afraid to ruffle feathers along the way. It is Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber.

Wonderful to see you, as always. Putting party politics aside...

don't like the word churning out musicals estimation mark you deliver

powers that be do with music in schools? The interesting thing,

music, when it comes into schools, can be the most extraordinary common

denominator. It can take kids into the academic world in a way that

other things can't. The school I'm talking about is Highbury Grove in

Islington. They have the most remarkable programme. I think the

headmistress would say that five or six years ago, when she took it

over, it was one of the schools that would have been considered to be

practically off the radar. Through music, it was turned around. You may

ask why or how that happened. The most extraordinary thing to me is

that the kids would get a violin. I would think, it is something

tactile. You own a violin and, through them, you can learn maths.

can relate to that. I have no idea if the programme can be rolled out

hugely. That I feel is an incredibly useful experiment to look at.

will talk more about this later on. We have some of these children from

Highbury Grove here. On a different note, it is exciting because we have

a hot tub outside this evening. Did you bring your swimming costume?

Personally, I didn't. It will probably be good for me, I have lots

of problems with my back. We will not get into that! Your cat swims?I

have two swimming Turkish cats. They are lovely. Why did you get a

swimming Turkish cat? Do you have a swimming pool at home? They are

extraordinary Cats. You have got one on the screen. They come from the

eastern side of Turkey. Mine have not been swimming as much as I would

have liked, but they are astonishing animals. The alternate coloured

eyes. One has blue and yellow. The Daily Mail, there was an article

about a cat called Oscar. He was given an ASBO order. He attacked an

old-age pensioner. I kept the article and I looked at the picture

of it. I thought, I know that cat, it is a Turkish cat. I discovered it

was a full brother of mine explanation mark they are lovely,

they do get on well with dogs. They are terrific cats. Plans are afoot

to start educating children about how to manage money in an attempt to

stop them from falling into a cycle of debt. But how would you fair

sitting an exam on your finances? I'm sure you would want to get top

marks, especially if your teacher was Anne Donnelly.

If you are trying to get a car, getting a loan, managing your family

budget or sorting out a mobile phone contract, we are all faced with

endless decisions about our personal finances pretty much every day of

our lives. But are we as good at getting the best deals as we think?

One survey found that 43% of us don't know what common financial

terms like PPI and APR mean. Maybe we could do with a few lessons to

help us make better decisions? Tracy bleakly has been campaigning to make

financial education compulsory. That's so schoolchildren can tackle

real-life money problems like this. You are going on holiday, you have

�800 spending money and you want to change it into foreign currency. You

have two options, a flat fee of commission, for pounds. Or you can

pay 0.6% commission on �800. Which do you want to choose? This is

tricky. First, we divide 0.6 by 100, to get the multiplier. Multiply that

by 800. That equals �4.80. Which do you want to choose? The flat rate,

unlike Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, have not had to learn about

managing their money. But that is about to change. The government

wants to make sure that the next generation of consumers are more

financially savvy than their parents by making personal financial

education compulsory. But how ropey are our financial skills? Time to

put some mums and dads to the test. These parents in Reading have agreed

to set an hour-long test. They will have to grapple with nine money

problems. Just the kind of questions that will feature as part of the

maths GCSE exam in future. I think I'm all right at my own money, but

I'm not very good at maths. The thought of a maths test is a bit

scary. Are you feeling confident? should be, I work for a bank! In a

call centre, so I'm good with finances. The questions cover

everything from wages and taxes to credit, debt and managing your

bills. You have one hour to complete the paper. Exam conditions, please.

Begin the tests! Personal finance education would become part of the

national curriculum in England from September next year. These questions

are pretty tough. I could do with a bit of revision myself. Isn't GCSE a

little bit young to be finding out about all of these horrible

financial realities? It's never too young. We speak to young people and

they tell us, my mum and dad get their money from the supermarket on

a Saturday morning. We really need to start early with those concept

software money comes from, how do you live within your means, how do

you make decisions? Back in the exam hall, our parents are out of time.

The teachers doing the marketing are being ruthless with their green

pen. It's time for volunteers to find out how they got on. --

marking. The results are in and it's unclassified, scoring below 40%. Top

of the class was church minister Alison, who got more than 90%. She

beat bank worker Richard, who got a A. Are you surprised? I am, but when

I started doing the questions I realised it was stuff I do every

day. I got a C. Some of it, I thought I knew how to do it, but I

obviously didn't. How much of a difference is this going to make?

It's a game changer, getting financial education onto the

national curriculum. We could afford to make mistakes a generation ago.

We didn't have to take on debt to go to university, it was easier to get

onto the housing ladder. Young people are not in that position. It

is a different world. To be able to not just survive but to thrive, they

need the skills to do well. If you fancy seeing how you would get on,

just for fun, there are some of the questions on the website. We will

put the answers on next week. Anyway, Martin Lewis is here. As a

money-saving expert, you wanted your say. You have been working for a

long time to get it onto the curriculum, Wales, Scotland and

Northern Ireland already have it? They have a form of it. I'd like to

thank everybody that signed my petition, that got it debated in

Parliament. We've been actively come -- campaigning. Many MPs joined it.

We are going to have financial numerous Yaz part of the mathematics

curriculum. We are going to teach attitudes to money and finance. When

it might be wrong to borrow, instead of just how much it costs to

borrow. It's a brilliant idea, but things change so quickly, are the

things that the pupils are learning going to be relevant when they are

adults? Let's use a musical analogy. If you learn how to play music,

while styles might change, the fact that you got the tools to deal with

it, that lasts you for life. learn to play the violin, you have

to learn the note values of certain things. Then you have dotted rhythms

and you begin to realise how it relates to maths. I think what you

are doing is very exciting and very interesting. I would be very

grateful for some lessons from you. Do the test on the website. You

could do that. Well, I will try. I'll be hopeless. For 21 years in

this country we have educated our youth into taking debt when they go

to university without educating them about debt. I started this three

years ago by challenging MPs, when they put tuition fees up, whether

you like or don't like what happened, at least let children

understand it. Student loans Lou at people towards different types of

borrowing, they didn't see the difference between good debt and bad

debt. That is why we need to break the cycle of borrowing. Parents at

home being a bit more open about it? Talk to your kids. I've once been to

school and talk to them for a day, then they went home and saved their

parents �5,000. This is what it can do, we will reap the benefits, less

mis-selling, less people in debt, I cross my fingers. You are obviously

passionate about it. Thank you. How do you solve a problem like a bad

Ofsted report? Headteacher Truda White faced that problem in 2000.

Seven years later, her school went from poor to outstanding. And she

did it using the Sound of music. My name is Ryan, I play the violin.

I am Carlos and I play the clarinet. Seven years ago we

introduced a scheme that allowed children who wanted to play a

classical instrument the opportunity, without them having to

pay the stop my mum was excited, because nobody in my family played a

classical instrument. It was to improve discipline, because children

have to practice and rehearse. It was to improve relationships,

because they have to learn to work together. I have learned to bond

with people. I know a lot of people in the older and younger years.

was also to get a better focus on the academic and working hard.

is a lot of commitment involved in playing the clarinet. Once you have

done it, it's a great sense of achievement. The biggest success is

that children want to come to school. You can be unique, you don't

have to be perfect. I'm doing something after school and it is

Grove are in the studio. Give yourselves a big round of applause.

Inspiring. We have seen and heard how this can help. How do you want

to take this on? The thrilling thing, as Trudy said, is the amazing

way that music can help in education, in the widest possible

sense. I don't think anybody saying, what should do in a programme like

this kind is to necessarily find the latest and greatest musicians,

concert pianist or violinist. But what we are saying is that through

music you can understand, as we were talking about earlier, how maths

works, Highbury Grove has 52 languages... Am I right? Something

like that. But there is a common dominator. It cuts across all

faiths, ethnic backgrounds. Taking away the choice, that is key for

you? The real point is that music can be an incredible comedy

nominator in education. Think we have seen it in Latin America. It is

having a success here as well. The model I would like to see rolled out

in schools is not about saying that we are trying to produce performers,

it is just that music is this great common denominator that can heighten

educational values. And social values as well. That is another very

important point. That was brilliantly said by Trudy in that

video. Good luck. Well, we have enjoyed lots of musical performances

on The One Show over the years. Who can forget Michael Buble? What about

Brian Wilson? The less said about him the better! And night we have

managed to get a symphony orchestra to perform, thanks to Cerys

A mythical sound promising the warmth and sunshine of spring. The

ku koo is a bird which knows two notes. Delius, famous for his

orchestral piece on hearing the first of spring. Born in 1862

Delius grew up in Bradford. A boom town, shrouded in smoke. His dad

was an immigrant, who ran a prosperous company. He was the son

of a military officer. He adopted this kind of attitude to his

children. He would line them up in the street of Bradford if he saw

them and inspect them. His reputation was such that the

shopkeepers when they saw Julius coming would hide the children from

here. There is the story that at the age of eight, Delius and his

older brother, Ernest stuffed their pockets full of sweets and ran away

to Ilkley. He found great escape here, didn't he? He certainly did.

He said that the moors had inspired most of his work. For Delius,

Ilkley Moor represented freedom, from his repressive home life and

his father. You can imagine him loving it here. It is perfect for

children, isn't it? It is perfect. This is where Dell Dell would have

come with his dog -- where Delius would have come with his dog and

walked. He adored the sound of birds T story goes from the trees

from over there he heard the cuckoo. You don't forget that kind of

moment. You don't forget moments like that. The warm weather coming.

You can go outside. You can go and play with your friends. As Dell

Dell grew up, the battle with his - - as Delius grew up, the battle

with his father went on. He gave up his job in the family

business in favour of composing. We are bringing music back to the moor.

Classical music goes extreme. Here it is, especially for the One Show,

on hearing the first cuckoo in spring, performed by the Leeds

symphony orchestra n the place that first inspired Delius.

He lets it unfold so slowly. He it's quite daring, isn't it?

is. It's a subtle piece of music. He's captured the feelings. It's as

if he's returning to the moors and you can hear and you can see and

you can smell the landscape of Delius's childhood. It is so

delicate - it's expressionist. Some people might not like it. Some

people love his music, others hate it. For me, it belongs to this

That's the cuckoo coming back. Then it gradually fades away.

It's amazing because it comes out of such an abstract piece of music.

Just the sound of a cuckoo. Quite hard to make that work. Very, very

Delius's relationship with his father remained fractious. Julius

never attended any of Frederick's concerts it is a shame because he

probably never realised his boy had picked up on something beautiful,

which would outlive the smoking # On Ilkley Moor #

APPLAUSE Lovely!

It's lovely to be back. I have to give big applause to the orchestra

there who took the big instruments up... It was blowing a gale. You

could not see it from there. Extreme classical music.

Was there a harpist? She said, "No, I'm not doing that!

"William Wordsworth - inspired by the cuckoo. He described it as a

mysterious bird, because you often hear it and don't see it. It is

true these days because they have been in a number of years now. Oh,

cuckoo, shall I call these a bird or a wandering voice. Darling of

the spring. You are to me no bird, other than an invisible thing. A

voice, a mystery. He gets it exactly.

You have something for Andrew as well. See if you know this one,

Andrew. Macaverty. There's no-one like

Macavety. He's broken every single law. He breaks the law of gravity.

Cats! I've always wanted to have a sign saying McCavety - wanted for

everything. He was such a bad, naughty cat.

Eliot was writing those poems for fun, he was sending them on.

old were you when you heard it? guess my mother read them to me at

seven or eight. I still have the original books. Was it hard to put

music to them? I thought to start it might be like Peter and the Wolf.

Valerie Eliot, when I did the first sing-through, she found things that

TS Eliot wrote. One of them was the story of Isabella the Glamour Cat.

It was extraordinary really. The other was a letter in which he said

he had an idea for a theatrical event, that all the cats would go

to the heavy side, past the Russell Hotel. I thought, oh, maybe I have

stumbled on a theatre show. This crazy event trying to turn human

beings into cats. It worked for 21 years, Andrew!

Cerys will get back on the guitar now. See if you reg niz them. Hsh

beware the -- recognise them. Beware the savage draw of 1984".

That is David Bowie. We started in the moors, which was

not so far from where the Bronte sisters used to live. Hsh

Heathcliffe, it's me, I'm Cathy. You have to sing it higher. She was

about 16 when she sang it. A beautiful song.

Thank you. Come back soon with your guitar. Please, yes.This week's

survey claims 20% of people in the West Midlands own a hot tub.

you sure about that? I don't know anybody who owns one. Mine is

broken! Some one show viewers are hot tub

own -- One Show viewers are hot tub owners and they love them. We had

it two Christmases ago. We thought it would be nice to have something

which involves family and friends. My son does his studying for A-

levels. He attempts to float his books. He has a fabulous fab. I

have a group that comes on a Thursday. We like to discuss what

happens in the village. Yes, it is us involved, no men or cars. My

husband and I and the two children, to watch a movie, we set it up on

the laptop. The arguments happen about what movie we are going to

watch. It turns into a five-hour argument about whether it is action,

adventure or rom-com. I like a floating game. I bought back gammon

and ducks that light up. We started to play duck Jenga

because we have so many. I first brought one a few years ago. Sadly

I lost my wife two years ago through breast cancer. I kept the

hot tub going, like we used to. I have a speed boat. I have a little

electronic jet ski. I have a submarine.

Lovely! We first got in the habit when we were skiing in America. She

always want it to snow in this country while we were in the hot

tub. It never happened. Just before she passed away, I had an idea to

go off and I bought a snow machine. I set it up the night before and

this noise in the quiet of the night just went "bruu". It started

to hum away. She broke me up and said, "What's that noise?" when she

looked out the garden was covered in snow. There was snow falling

down. Needless to say, Christmas morning, we sat in the hot tub,

Got the hot tub about a year ago. No matter what the weather, we will

be out here first thing in the morning before breakfast with a cup

of tea. We have the iPad in the hot tub. It

is really good, because I have an app that attracts planes. You can

see where they are. I have another that plots the night sky. We have

increased our knowledge of the stars and the other night, we were

sitting here and I saw what can be described as a yellow shape hanging

in the sky. We are being invaded by aliens and we are in the hot tub

and we are probably the only people on earth who know we are doomed. It

was a street light! Once we realised what it was, we felt

incredibly foolish! That is what hot tubs do to your

brain - I'm not sure! We did say somebody would be in the

hot tub and that somebody is John. Is it nice in there? 37. Not too

hot, not too cold. It is perfect for your bad back. I had one of the

greatest Jacuzzis in Britain. My wife said, we are getting rid of

that. I asked why. She said she heard that in the old days all the

kids came down and went into it. Who has the best... Who were you

beaten by? I will not say on the programme!

What we want to know then, it's been a glorious few days, John -

how is the forecast looking for the weekend? You show now that every

time you ask me on the One Show it is dodgy. It's all about that jet

stream. I am afraid things are on the slide

at the moment. Although it has been 22 Celsius in

London today, it has been cold up north. That will spread down across

the UK over the next few hours. In some places it will be ten Celsius

colder than it has been at the moment. We may see frost and may