24/04/2017 The One Show

Welcomer hello and welcome to the One Show, with me, Matt Baker. And

look who is back! Lovely to be back. Alex is here. The other night it is

so strange. You look beautiful. Thank you. There are a lot of dark

colours for the next few months - all new mothers will understand

that. After being here for half an hour, it felt like I had never been

away. Three and a half months? The best three and a half months. Our

baby is at home with Teddy, so he is all right. Nobody told me how

difficult it would be! How was today compared to the last three and a

half months? Much easier. I have had a cup of tea with two hands! That's

amazing. It has been the best time. I will bring him into the office to

meet everyone. You will ease in gently. Two days a week and we will

see how we get. Lovely to have her back.

APPLAUSE You are back, presenting. We will be

talking sleep with Jo Frost and Michael Mosley later in the show,

something we are not getting loads of at the moment. Michael will be

launching a brand-new research project here which you can be part

of by choosing one of six methods to improve your night's sleep. If you

have any questions about how to get a good night's sleep, how to get

better rest, or even how to get your children to bed, send us an e-mail.

A photo would be nice as well, to the usual address. And if you have

remedies for getting yourself or your children to state that you

would like to share with the nation, we would appreciate that, send them

in. We start in Aberdeen, where locals are playing host to some

unexpected guests, the crew of a cargo ship from India who hadn't

been paid for months. Although conditions are tough, the people of

the city are responding magnificently.

These men have been living in Aberdeen for the last six months.

They have seen the site, taken in the culture and been warmly embraced

by the community. It may look like they are having a good time, but

they are not here by choice. They are stuck and cannot get back to

their families in India. How long have you been on board? One year. It

is difficult to survive. I want to go home to my family. Their ship

usually supplies of oil and gas platforms in the North Sea, but last

October, it was detained because B12- strong crew had not been paid.

How old are your children? 21 and 18. Both studying? My wife is having

to take loans, and it is very difficult to survive. The

International transport workers Federation believes the only way for

the crew to get the money they are road is for the ship to be sold.

Despite the difficult circumstances, the crew have been carrying out

their duties as normal, and VJ as agreed to show me around. This is

the kitchen. Something smells good. And this is the chef. The generators

are switched off every afternoon, which means no lighting or heating,

but with less than a month's worth of diesel on board, they are living

on borrowed time. This would be a hard place to beat if you ran out of

fuel. It will be blackout. No kitchens, no frozen storage. No

electricity or heat, no anything. That must worry you. Not to see your

wife for a whole year - what condition is she in? She is crying.

I cannot imagine how hard it is to hear your wife crying on the phone

thousands of miles away and not be able to do anything about it. It is

very sad. I am feeling very sad. I want to go home and meet my family.

Doug Duncan is the port chaplain for a charity that helps seafarers in

need. How are they holding up? Very well, considering what they are

going through. Some of these guys have been here for a year and

haven't been paid for eight months. It is a difficult situation. In a

bid to keep spirits up, Doug regularly takes the crew out on day

trips. They are visiting nanny state on the south side of the River Dee,

owned by Malcolm and Christina Nicholl, who had been moved by the

crew's predicament. They invited me on board, and had a wonderful

welcome. They were so friendly and genuine, you could just identify

with the problem they were facing. It was natural to ask them back

after they looked after me so well. It is a welcome escape from the

confines of the ship. We are feeling nice and free. At one with nature.

It brings a change, going different places, talking with people and

seeing everything. It is just peaceful. People from all over

Aberdeen have got involved, like Laura and Kim from the gathering

community. -- Goan community. We invited the whole crew to a feast,

and it went from there. We were invited for a party. It was such a

wonderful time that we had. We all felt like part of one family, it

really lifted the spirits. And local fisherman Ricky visits them

everyday. I see them in the morning and have my breakfast. You are

always made welcome. There is always forward on the table. I know they

don't have a lot, so that is why I always bring something for the ship.

We attempted to contact the owners of the ship for their response but

had no reply. It could be another 14 weeks before the ship is sold, and

the worry is, they won't find a buyer and the crew will return home

on paid. But it is the companionship and generosity from the Aberdeen

community that has kept the men going. I think there is no other

place to be, because we know that there are a lot of people here to

support us, so we just can't give up now. Just trying to make the best

other terrible, terrible situation. We have heard there are added

complications - generators are not working the moment. People are

rallying round. We wish them the best and hope they get back to their

families. We will talk about sleep now. Michael has a brand-new

programme all about and Jo - this is a coincidence show. We thought Alex

would need help so we got nanny Jo. You have a campaign for parents to

get a bit more sleep. What effect does not having enough have on us

all? When we think about family and parents, I think, really, it has a

detrimental effect on the family with respect to creating more

anxiety. I think it really leads us to making poorer decisions with

respect to the type of foods that we eat. We become more moody and

irritable, behavioural changes. And suddenly, a lack of willingness with

respect to the essential parenting skills that we need in order to make

sure we are all getting good sleep. I am working this week on the bath,

book, bad campaign with the book trust, and it is a privilege to have

that opportunity to help families in still a healthy routine. This is

signposting that rating. It is a big part of being a parent. A huge part!

It comes with the territory, it is what you expect. But you hope to

make life a bit easier. A lot easier. In being able to really

bring home the importance of establishing a healthy routine, it

means that not only are you establishing really healthy sleeping

habits for your children, but by example, also, you are, as the

adult, getting enough sleep, that's necessary as well. How early can you

establish a routine, Jo? Straight off. Certainly, we see with yourself

now, having had Teddy, you are starting to write down a baby log

with respect when they sleep and when they are away, and you start to

see the patterns of those regular sleeping modes, as such, and that

allows you to start forming a routine. What is important is that

once you have got that first year done, you continue through the

toddler years. It is essential, and if it is not put in place, it has an

impact on the early learning years and developmental stages, so it is

important. 15% of toddlers are fighting not to put their pyjamas on

in the evening. It doesn't stop, does it? Mine are now nine and

seven, and the sleeping challenge differs, but Michael, as far as the

science - some mornings I look at my children in thing, you have really

grown. There is a real difference. In terms of the science... It is

unlikely they grew overnight, but adults do, because your spine gets

compressed and when you lie down at night-time, you will find you are

taller in the morning then when you went to bed. Everything Jo says is

absolutely right Sunni it is about routine. One of the experts I spoke

when making the new programme -- everything Jo says is absolutely

right - it is about routine. Teenagers now who are about to take

exams, I have one at home. It is really important they get this late,

because one of the things that happens when you don't sleep is that

it really messes with your memory, solemn mood is hugely important. Can

you get your teenagers out of bed? In the morning! We could talk about

it all programme. Michael and Jo will stay, so send your questions in

and we will put them to them both throughout the duration of the show.

Audience figures show that there is plenty of appetite for the general

election despite what our friend Brenda had to say. But not everyone

agrees. Certainly not Mason McQueen. The cabbie who made a name for

himself as Wogan's wing man had a simple rule for what passengers

could talk about. Anything but the election!

What is your rage? 81. Not a mark on you! I am very careful. -- what is

your age was mac you are not a Chelsea or Arsenal fan? I did not

watch the match. I am a rugby fan. You like them hunky guys or the

rugby? LAUGHTER

I run the marathon. I have trouble driving 26 miles, let alone running

it! I love this job when I am meeting characters like yourself.

You don't get too many cab-drivers engaging in conversation. Are you

bored with the elections, referendums? It gets a bit much. But

it's important. Everybody gets the vote all the time, so we go one way

and then the other. A bit of stability would be good. We are

about to get a puppy. What are you going to call it - Theresa May or

Jeremy? Winnie! You seen the fella helping the guy over the line? Yes,

and I saw the interview where he was very humble about it. He said if it

hadn't been him, it would have been the next guy. If that was Theresa

May and Jeremy Corbyn, the other guy, and the finish line represented

the end of Corbyn's Korea and Aycliffe, that would have been her

chucking him over. -- Corbyn 's career and Aycliffe.

Michael, you are a self-confessed insomniac. Thus talking about the

election put you to sleep? Unfortunately not, I love the stuff

and it wakes me up. The risk is, I will find myself on the computer at

3am. That is one of the worst things you can do. You have this programme,

The Truth About Sleep, and there are many scientific tests in the

programme. Let's have a look at this one.

It looks like a very stressful programme to film, lying on a bed

there. That is something that is called the sleep latency test, and

one of the best ways of telling whether you are sleep deprived or

not is when you go to bed in the afternoon, you lie down, how quickly

do you fall asleep? This test was divided... Devised by a researcher.

You have a spoon, a tray, you lie in bed, you close your eyes, and when

you fall asleep, the spoon falls, hits the tray, wakes you up. You

look at your watch and you see how quickly you fall asleep. If you give

it in less than ten minutes, you are seriously sleep if I -- sleep

deprived. So do you advise people to have a

Nash during the day? If you have time, maybe, but if you do sleep,

you may find it difficult to come out of it. And then you may have

trouble sleeping at night. So what is the sleep challenge? What we want

to do is we want people to try these different things and see how they

get on. They all have some science to them. Number one is a breathing

technique, known as the four, two, four. You breathe in for four

seconds, then hold it for two seconds, then breathe out for four

seconds. People find it very effective at night. I do that. So

one more time, what do you do? Breathing, hold, then breathe out.

But when you really concentrate on breathing, don't you forget to

breathe? You hold your breath when you are stressed. It is good

practice to learn how to do it. A warm bath is essential. You ideally

have a warm bath or a shower about half an hour before. The cooling

down then triggers sleep. What about the two kiwi fruit? Wendy you have

them? About an hour before you go to sleep. If you do this for about four

weeks, it will improve the quality of your sleep. And what about the

turkey? You have to eat about 40 lb of it. You should avoid alcohol. If

you drink alcohol, it can help you go to sleep, but it disrupts your

sleep. And then a bit of exercise? Preferably in the morning, because

the light you get in the morning is different to the light in the

afternoon. It is about resetting your internal clock. She says her

husband does it. He does. He is an insomniac like yourself, and he will

run in the morning. I can honestly say that the Bath Book Bed campaign

works for him as well! Have a go at home. We will put all of the details

about Michael's sleep challenge on our website, and then Michael, you

can come back in a couple of weeks, and we will work out what worked and

what didn't. I will try them all tonight!

In a moment, Angela Rippon will tell us about her new show,

which searches for the truth behind health-related headlines.

First, Deborah Meaden's got a film that will change the way you think

When The One Show asked me to make a wildlife film, I made them promise

it wasn't going to be about dragons. But I am going to meet an animal

that is equally ruthless. The more I learn about animal behaviour, the

more I realise how much they have in common with us. There's one little

chap I find really intriguing, not least because he reminds me of some

of the people I work with. I think I can hear one now. The Attenborough

nature reserve in Nottinghamshire is one of the best places in Britain to

see robins. I'm hoping I can entice one to eat out of my hand. With a

little bit of help from a few mealworms. What a treasure! It's

that scarlet breast, that chirpy songs, that's helped make him one of

Britain's favourite birds. But I suspect that the robin's image might

just be too good to be true. Naturalist Jack Perks has been

visiting this local robin population for years. They've got this cute and

cuddly persona, but that's really not the case. They are incredibly

aggressive little birds, particularly at this time when they

are defending their territories. But what about their lovely song? That

sounds very friendly, jolly and pretty. At this time of year, they

want to show through their song, advertise that if someone wants to

start a fight with them, they are up for it and ready. Jack is taking me

to the bad side of town. Here, vigilant robins guard their

territories. The centre of the conflict, a feeding station. This

one is singing away, kind of declaring to the other robins, this

is where I live. Stay away, basically. We have all these robins

in the area, and you have a dominant pair. As soon as another robin comes

into their territory, they are on it. It is like the workplace. You

get new people turn up, and the people who were there before all get

together. Watch that one! One robin is closely watched by its dominant

neighbour, marked out by its larger redbreast. They have this war paint,

the big redbreast, vibrant colours. That is a warning to other robins

that if you come near me, we are going to have a fight. I have seen

that in business! Not fisticuffs, but the posturing. You don't want to

compete with me! I think this is the underdog, the less dominant bird. He

is really cautious. The underdog waits to pick his moment. At last.

Did you see how nervous he was? He is feeling bolder now. He got away

with it. Did you hear that chitter there, that noise? It is all kicking

off. It is time for the boss to put his foot down. Straight in there.

Get off my bird table! A territorial display. He's chasing him! They are

Mike Spitfires as they fly around. They will fight to the death. They

will gouge each other's eyes out. They are brutal birds. I will never

be able to look at robins the same way again. The more I learn about

them, the more I can see traits I recognise in us. There is a lot more

to this little bird than that image you see on Christmas cards. But it

is that ruthless competitiveness that I admire so much, and I'm so

glad I have learned more about the robin. I still like them. I do. They

are just so territorial. Get out my garden!

Angela, your new series is called Health: Truth or Scare,

which you present with our Kev Duala.

And you are getting to the bottom of health headlines, aren't you?

Kevin and I have been looking at the truth behind a lot of stories there

are these days about health. As it says on the title, The Truth About

Sleep. There are a lot of stories that are scary, and others which are

contradictory. Anyone who saw this morning will have got the idea of

what we are doing. You can watch it on catch up. We did an item about

statins, and whether you should take them. I did a film about asthma. So

many stories say that children are being misdiagnosed and being given

inhalers willy-nilly. We do a story that shows that all of that

pollution out there in the streets really does increase the chance of

children getting asthma. Some who are given an asthma diagnosis when

they are quite young actually have COPD, something quite different. So

we do a number of stories where we are trying to say to people, don't

be scared or confused by what you read, because you will get

contradicting stories. We are trying to look at the facts and tell people

what they need to know to help them make decisions about their own help

with their GPs. One of the stories you look at is whether headphones

can damage hearing. Let's have a look. Our next participant is rarely

without his headphones, and loves his music on maximum. I go to a lot

of concerts, and I've had occasions where one it has gone deaf for a

couple of days. There is further cause for concern when Chris tests

his usual listening level. We are seeing reading is there of around

95, and one of over 100 decibel. That could damage your hearing.

He goes on to have his is tested. What happens? He is not yet death,

although he admits that he can go deaf after concerts, but we do see

there is damage there, but not enough for him to lose his hearing.

Other people on the test, such a DJ, have already lost the ability to

here very high notes when she hears music. So if you stand very near any

kind of speaker, you feel the noise. That is what you are pumping into

your ears. So basically, be very careful, and make sure you look at

your iPad or your phone, because it will tell you if you are at a

dangerous level with what you are listening to. If you want to listen

to music, don't destroy your hearing now. One of the problems is if you

are sleeping next to a snorer. They can get up to over 100 decibels! The

Truth About Sleep continues all this week on BBC One at 9:15am. We have

some questions. Absolutely loathe him. One it to you, Jo. Emma says,

my 18-month-old son has started screaming before bedtime and during

the night, and nothing will consult him. He slept three from eight

weeks, so this has just started. Any tips? At that age, children get

their back molars through, and show signs of separation anxiety. So it

brings home the importance of connecting with and communicating

with your children, and spending time with them. So the bedtime

routine of connecting with your child and really establishing this

ritual every evening of having this fun bath time, where you are able to

laugh as well and enjoy that time, following through with a beautiful

book. Children love the repetition of reading. So to really have that

wonderful moment of bonding with your children, and following through

with children feeling safe for bed, is absolutely critical. Quite a few

on a similar theme. I fall asleep quickly but often wake early, before

my alarm. That is my problem. That is what I investigate in the film. I

would love them to try the sleep challenge and find out if any of

those things work. Clearly, having a warm bath at 3am is not really

practical, but hopefully, if you were to try the early morning walk,

for a example, that could help later. The worst thing you can do is

lie there and worry. There is some evidence that this is the natural

way of doing it. In the preindustrial age, people went to

bed at 9pm and woke up at 2am. Some people had a party, or visited the

neighbours, and then they went back to bed again. It was a first and

second sleep. In some ways, it is quite natural, but it is quite

annoying. And turn your clock of! One from Sue, who has to children

now. She says that her eldest will not sleep in her own room because

she is jealous of the baby. You have to address the importance of a new

addition to the family, and having a routine during the day is just as

important as having one at night. And understand that the transition

takes time for the younger ones. Be patient, and parents would be more

patient and find more fun when they get a good nights sleep. So it all

support it. Someone said, I don't want to sleep like a baby. I want to

sleep like my husband! We are there. We will ask Michael some more

questions when you come back. A big thank you to you all.

We'll be back tomorrow with two huge Hollywood stars -

from Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - Chris Pratt and Kurt Russell.

I've got some good news. Did you hear?