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Blimey, better polish up the old trumpet.

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Hello and welcome to a very Victorian One Show, with Alex Jones.

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Yes, the scene is set for the grand arrival of tonight's guest.

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She's time-travelled from Doctor Who's sidekick,

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to acting royalty in the hit drama 'Victoria'.

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Hello, Jenna. Welcome! Nice to see you. Welcome back! Thank you, it has

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been a couple of years. We have redecorated. Very civilised. I like

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the King Charles spaniel. And we have these large migratory. And we

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also have tea with Ormond milk in it which is... Not very Victorian!

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Anyway, I was just warning you! What? I'm just saying!

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Can you give some words of advice for the un-cast Doctor Who assistant

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Who may or may not come in the shape of Bradley Walsh! Somebody else as

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to me today. It is news to me. But I did say the advice I gave to Pearl

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was about the catering, that was the most useful advice. You can order in

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and you do not have to go to the canteen every day. Right, and that

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the changes nice? Yes. On that note, try this tea with almond milk. You

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do not have almond milk. It is just Jenna. Sorry, I did not realise. It

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tastes just like regular tea! It is very nice. We will talk about the

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new series of Victoria shortly. The first series of Victoria saw

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the Queen give birth to her first These days, some women are leaving

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it much later to start a family, which can lead to age-related

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concerns around fertility. So more and more healthy women

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are choosing to 'flash freeze' But is this new method a reliable

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way to put your baby plans on ice? I am a doctor. I'm also 37 and

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single. I have always known that I want to have a family, but so far, I

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just have not met the right man. And I am not alone. There are loads of

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help the women in their 30s who won the children but not in a position

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to have them. -- healthy women. It is so common, it has been given its

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own name. Social infertility. For me, it feels like time is running

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out. Women are born with all the eggs we will ever have and our

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ability that fertility declines in our mid-30s as the quality

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diminishes, but there is a way to buy more time, a controversial and

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explosive process called egg freezing, I want to know if I should

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consider it. Eggs are collected from a woman and frozen so she can use to

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have her own biological child. How does it actually work? She will take

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hormone injections to stimulate her ovaries. And when her follicles are

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ready, she will come in for the collection procedure. The collection

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is done under sedation and we use a needle like this. That needle? Yes,

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only a small part of the needle goes inside. The extracted eggs will be

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dehydrated using a sugar solution and flash frozen in liquid nitrogen

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at -196 degrees. This technique called vitrification events ice

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crystals forming which could damage the eggs and is more reliable than

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slower freezing methods from the past. This is where we store eggs.

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This is literally where life is being stored for later. What happens

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when they come out of storage? When a woman is ready to have a child,

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she comes back, we take out the eggs and defrost them and fertilise them

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with her partner or donor's sperm and hoping for a positive pregnancy

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test. That positive test is far from guaranteed and some experts fear the

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process is giving women false hope. One of them is medical lawyer

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Professor Emily Jackson. I think there is a danger women might be

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being oversold egg freezing as a complete solution to the problem of

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age-related fertility decline, but it is not guaranteed to work and it

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does mean becoming a IVF patient and we all know IVF does not always

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work. Is this adding more pressure on women already declined -- already

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aware of their declining fertility? Yes, there is a terrible scenario in

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which women who did not freeze their eggs might feel responsible and feel

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they could have done something. For women who see it as their only hope,

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the statistics do not look good. In 2013, only 14% of women who

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defrosted their eggs had a baby. Some people would say vulnerable

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women are being sold a false hope, what you say to those people? The

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statistics from the UK at the moment do not look good because they do not

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reflect the success rates. Many women trying to have a baby now

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froze their eggs using the older slow freezing method. I believe is

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more women freeze their eggs and come back to use their eggs in the

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UK, we will see improved success rates. Even if success rates are

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improving, at prices starting from ?4000, egg freezing is not cheap. I

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want to find out if it is worth it and I am meeting Sarah who had Home

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Equity frozen in 2015. I came out of a long-term relationship, I knew

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that I had always wanted kids so I kind of went into panic mode about

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my age because I was 38. What was it like? A lot of ups and downs, I felt

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very emotional. Not because of the physical side of things, but I think

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because of the questions about your age and why have you got to this

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stage? Sarah was able to freeze five healthy eggs which are now in

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storage. How do you feel about your decision? I feel good, I had to take

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action and I feel I have done something positive and it was better

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than not doing anything at all. Even for me, a doctor, it is a lot to get

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your head around but I can see how for many, even with the risks and

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costs involved, it is a chance they are prepared to take.

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And Zoe joins us now, along with Ally, who used

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the flash-freezing method to have twins Molly and Monty.

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You can probably hear them! It is bedtime, they must be tired. Are you

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all right? Hello! We will have a chat with your money and you can

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come and say hello. Sorry, you highlighted the success rate was

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very low, although it does give women who can afford it a bigger

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chance of having babies. What conclusion have you drawn? I think

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that experience of making that film gave me the information I needed to

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make an informed choice. Even though going through that process, probably

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only a one in four chance it will be successful and give me a child, I

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have decided to go ahead and freeze my eggs. You cannot hearing from

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people who have gone through it to get enough information and thank you

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for coming in, Ally. Where did it start? It started in 2007 when I was

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41 and I had split up from my partner. I was at a stage where I

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thought if I want to have children, a need to do something about this.

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The quick freezing method was just coming in and I thought, I need to

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make a decision, and I decided to freeze my eggs which are used when I

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was 47 and I have Molly and Monty. As they are three and a half. It was

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very brave of you to go it alone. You froze 27 eggs initially. And

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then how many were viable? Out of 27, three survived. And out of those

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three that were fertilised and put back in me, I had the twins. And

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because I was 47 which was allowed to have three put back in so I was

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extremely lucky. One of the challenges to do this process as

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early as possible and at 41, it was late. There were crimes are not

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abnormalities which is why the eggs did not survive -- there were

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abnormalities. So if you are thinking about it, check your

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fertility and do it as early as possible. People are not informed

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enough about it. That is definitely the case. There is the lot of

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negative press about this and it is definitely not suitable for

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everybody and the financial implications of it mean it is not an

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option for a lot of people but award encourage women from around the age

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of 30 to start looking into it and becoming better informed. If Molly

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and Monty want to come over, they can do. Run over here and watch

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laces, do not trip over! Would you like some cake?

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Let's get you a little cake on my little saucer.

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We will talk about clinics. It is not available on the NHS. But you

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need to find a reputable clinic and compare prices. Because prices do

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vary and it is pricey as a procedure. What is the best way to

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do that? In addition to prices, there are three things I would say

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you need to consider. One is the consultant, the fertility expert,

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make sure they do NHS practice as well as private practice. Not for

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egg freezing but other things, so they are reputable. Go for a clinic

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using this technique because it is better technology and success rates.

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And there is nothing better than a recommendation for some body who has

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been through the process and has that experience. One must

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experience, Monty, is that nice cake? Looks like he is enjoying it!

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Good luck and looking forward to finding out how it goes and thank

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you, Ally. You can take the cake away. You will

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have to stay up a bit longer before bedtime.

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They are not going to sleep after all that sugar!

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Good luck with everything. Last series saw a young Victoria

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ascend to the throne, learn the royal ropes and meet

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and marry Albert. Series Two begins on Sunday night

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with a feisty Victoria, learning to balance her roles

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as both mother and monarch. I want to go riding. Riding, are you

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sure? Yes, of course I am sure. Forgive me, I'm afraid it would be

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most irregular for you to appear in public before you have been

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Churched. Churched? Your Majesty, it is customary for a woman to be

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repealed verified in Church before she rejoined society. And you are?

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Drummond, Sir Robert's Private secretary. Well, Mr Drummond, I am

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not a woman, I am a Queen. Well, that told him!

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Yes, every woman had to do it after the sin of childbirth, to be

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welcomed back into the community. So what else to recover in this series

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apart from being a mother? -- what else do you cover. All I can think

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about is babies, so many babies! We are currently on baby number four.

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We wrapped at 9pm last night, the Christmas special. Just back to

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London now and we have got a lot of babies and a lot of animals. And

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quite a bit of arguing, we understand. Interesting

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relationship. It is the early days of their married and the honeymoon

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and navigating the political balance within their marriage and how much

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workload Albert has and how much independence Victoria has and he was

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the master in the House is the question and leads to a clash of

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wills. We found out today you can read Queen Victoria's diaries online

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which I found fascinating. I assume that is something you have done or a

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biography, so how do you see her life? What is amazing is, what I

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love about her is given her position as Queen, you would think she would

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like to keep things to herself, but she is so unashamedly frank and it

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is really refreshing. Everything she thinks, she is very candid and vocal

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about her opinions and her thoughts. She is one of those prolific journal

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writers of history. So the access is enormous. As the first series has

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been incredibly successful globally. You have been accepted across the

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world. With the second series, do you approach it differently? You

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will be more confident. But are you taking anything from the first

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series you are building on now concentrating on perhaps? I guess it

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is covering those parts of history like the first series was very much

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Victoria on the day she became Queen were growing up, falling in love and

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navigating those things and we find her here in the early days of

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marriage and motherhood. And falling pregnant again. When the chin. --

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when she did not want to, and that is an interesting story I have not

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seen on screen, somebody in a very loving relationship in resenting the

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fact they are pregnant so it is quite interesting storytelling. And

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in the meantime, at the time we are dealing with the corn laws and/or

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things going on politically. It could go on and on, she did not die

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until she was 81, you play her at 21. LAUGHTER

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There is too much story, within that, in episode seven, we have

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taken a story from one of the journals, where they go to get lost,

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there is a storm, they get lost and stumble across a cottage, and people

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in the cottage do not know who they are, they spend an evening, they do

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not know, and they never did, they never knew who they were. There is

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just so much detail, it is pacing, how quickly do you go through her

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life... As well as the diaries, a lot of painting and sketching, and

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we have got this... We have this portrait. Self-portrait. 1835, when

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she was 16... The similarities there... Don't you think...?

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I am going to say it, you are a lot more pretty! LAUGHTER

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A lot more pretty. Not many people know

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that Queen Victoria because he could not propose

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to her, being the Queen. And she survived seven

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assassination attempts! Well, who else to send but Gyles

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to investigate how Victoria managed to dodge a bullet,

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on so many occasions? VOICEOVER: On the evening of Monday,

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30 of May, 1842, 23-year-old Queen Victoria and Prince Albert are

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taking their regular carriage ride through London's Royal Parks. An

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assassin steps from the shadows, aims, and fires. It seems

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incredible, but apparently Queen Victoria was expecting this attempt

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on her life, and had put herself deliberately in the line of fire.

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The day before, the same assassin had tried to shoot the Queen here,

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on the Mall, his handgun failed, he ran away. The Prime Minister, Sir

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Robert peel, close adviser to the Royals, hatched a plan to flush him

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out. -- Sir Robert Peel. He suggested that the royal couple take

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their widely known right around the Royal Parks the next day, as normal,

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and they agreed. You may imagine that our minds were not easy, it was

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written, we looked behind every tree, and I cast my eyes around in

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search of the rascal's face. Historian Barry Charles has examined

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this case in great detail. What happened that day? Queen Victoria

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and Prince Albert came out from Buckingham Palace, as they were

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coming back, that is when John Francis struck. He was a 19-year-old

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youth, an unemployed carpenter... Where was he? He was up against the

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wall of Buckingham Palace gardens, a lot of police, somebody really quite

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close to him, a constable... Did he have suspicions? Know, did not

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searching, did not stop him, as the royal party approached, he saluted,

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looking away from where John Francis was, that is when he stepped forward

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and fired. When he heard the bang, he turned around and Rab hold of

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him. So, eventually, Trounce bounced! Probable that there was no

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bullet in the gun. -- grabbed hold of it. Gunpowder, getting her

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attention. Francis was apprehended but it was clear that a better

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protection was needed, and a secret defence was created, it is still in

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the Royal collection and housed in the Museum of London. This is it,

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this parasol? What you cannot see it there is a layer of metal in between

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the two layers of silk. And the idea was... She would hold it like that,

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bullet would bounce off? Did she use it? I think not. It is far too

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heavy, it is 1.5 kilograms, she was a small woman! At least seven

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attackers can directly confronted Queen Victoria during her life,

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would-be assassins included a barman, a newspaper vendor, an

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artist and a dapper gentleman who struck her on the head with a cane.

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And what happens to these scoundrels? Well, it was treason,

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some ended up in mental hospitals, many of them were transported to

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Australia. John Francis was one of 240 complex thrown onto a barely

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seaworthy prison ship, transported to Van demons land, an island off

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Australia, now known as Tasmania. The Tasmanian archives still hold

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the record, and they make for fascinating reading. -- Van Diemen's

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Land. It is all here, all in all, he served four years hard labour. So

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what happens next? In Australia, his great-great-grandson, Alan Phillips,

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has the answer. He married a 16-year-old, they had ten children.

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When he was a builder, he built the town hall in Lord Stern, the Royal

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Theatre, and the gasworks... So, this unhappy story ends happily?

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Unfortunately not, the property market bottoms during the recession,

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he went to Victoria, he was virtually broke. -- Launceston. It

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is an irony that he ended up, trying to assassinate Victoria, living in

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the city of Victoria. -- living in Victoria. Yes! He lived until 1862,

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and died at that closes. Yes, his attempts on the life of Victoria and

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her stoical attempts supporting them, made the people love her more,

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she became the second longest serving monarch. Long live the

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Queen! STUDIO: Great stuff! Always keeping

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an eye on us... Very creepy... We have got something wrong, they are

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supposed to be on the back, to protect from the hair, not on the

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bottom bits... So we have got those wrong... So your headers not get

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greasy. We have got the antimacassars all wrong. Now, now...

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We are going to go Doctor Who... Do you think you are...!

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you discovered whilst filming Victoria.

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You and your ex-Doctor Who co-star, Matt Smith, worked out

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the royal characters you've played are related?

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I hope I have my facts right, which I may not have done... There we

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go... Great-great-grandmother as well. Technically, his fictional

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great-grandmother, I am technically his fictional great-grandmother. Not

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only the 11th doctor, but the 12th... Peter Capaldi... What is he

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doing? Do you see, because he played Charles the first, in a television

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drama that in 2008, so he is Queen Victoria's great great great great

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eight uncle... -- great great way all from Doctor Who do you think you

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are this week... LAUGHTER It's been revealed today that high

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levels of inactivity amongst middle-aged people may be

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harming their health, and all 40-60 year olds should take

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a ten-minute brisk walk every day. Well, Kevin has been to meet

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some activity-seekers, who are keeping fit,

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earning money and helping the community from middle-age well

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into their retirement. 2.5 million of us go swimming every

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week. But swimming pools like this could be in danger of closing,

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because of a national shortage of lifeguards. So, what a surprise in

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solution is on the horizon... To help keep swimmers safe. Forget bay

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watch, this is grey watch! ! -- Baywatch. -- Greywatch. To combat

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the lack of lifeguards there has been a nationwide push to recruit

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pensioners. David is 74, John is 66. What made you, at this point of your

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career, want to become a lifeguard? I retired in May, after a couple of

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very good careers, and I did not want to stop, and I think that I am

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still young enough and fit enough to do this work. Were you concerned

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about what people would think, with you starting this career at an older

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age? That never crossed my mind, actually... Good man! John only

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qualified as a lifeguard this year, David has been doing the job for 28

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years. How much do you love it? I really do enjoy it, remember, I am a

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pensioner, everyday is a Saturday... I go in, when they call me, I am

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only ten minutes away, I am down there like a shot. The brains behind

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the campaign to attract more older lifeguards is Melanie Silverman, who

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works for a company responsible for 141 swimming pools across the

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country. What made you target pensioners? We usually go out and

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target students for the summer because it is a perfect summer job.

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We look at the workforce, and we saw that we have a lot of brilliant

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older lifeguards, fantastic role models for younger people, and just

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as fit, if not fitter than some of the youngsters that already work for

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us, so we thought, why not? Everyone assumes you have to be 19 years old,

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superfit, happy to run around in a tiny old swimsuit, that is not the

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reality of the job. So what does it take to become a lifeguard? Today,

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in Swindon, 12 people are midway through an intense week-long

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training course. , Brian Reid, who is looking for a new career, 15

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years after he should have retired. I found it a lot harder than I

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thought it would be. The theory, I am wondering if we can still

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remember on Saturday what I was told on Monday... In theory, I am all

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right, but when you get older, attention is the issue. Question has

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got to become a widely want to be a lifeguard, why now? You are either

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going to sit at home, watch the world go by, all you go out and do

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something, at 80, people do not... Jobs do not grow on trees. If you

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still can do what I can do, get out and do it. Helping 18-year-old Brian

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take the plunge, the course leader, Cheryl potting. What skills and

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qualities do you need? Mainly you need to be a good swimmer, just in

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case you need to do pool rescues, you need to be vigilant and take

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control of that pool. -- Cheryl Pottinger. We were not respecting

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him to be so good, we did not know he would be so switched on, he has

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the CPR, picking it up really well. At the end of the week, Brian will

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find out if he has passed, the national pool lifeguard

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qualification. What will it mean to you, passing the test at the end of

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the week. I will probably be very self-satisfied, yes. I think I shall

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be quite proud. Around 12,000 people a year are rescued from UK swimming

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pools, so what do people here think about their lives being left in the

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hands of older lifeguards? Generally, I would feel more

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confident with a younger person. They have tremendous skills,

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expertise, experience, which should be brought to bear. A bad idea, they

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would not be fit enough, it might child was drowning, to dive into a

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pool to be quick enough to pull them out. I don't think a pensioner would

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put themselves in that position if they could not do it. What about

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those who say that being a lifeguard is a young man's game? That is a

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misconception, everyone is stuck with this Baywatch syndrome and the

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sooner we get away from it, the better. Get down the pool, make some

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enquiries, go for it, you've got nothing to lose! STUDIO: That was a

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few weeks ago, so, Brian is with us, did he pass the test? APPLAUSE

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He did! Congratulations! Congratulations, you do not look a

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day near 80 years old. Come on, give me five days, at least! Brilliant

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news. How active have you been as a lifeguard since? I have been doing

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two or three sessions a week since then. Little red shorts on? Yes,

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with my white legs, yes! Thank you for doing what you are doing. We

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have got time to show a lovely picture of you here... He played an

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extra? Yes, he played the man in the crowd. Victoria is on Sunday night.

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You are going to be back... I'll be back tomorrow

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with Michael Ball and we'll be

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