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Hello and welcome to Tuesday's One Show with Alex Jones.

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And Matt Baker. Tonight's guest has just flown

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in from Alaska. It's not often we get

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the chance to say that. But then its not often we get

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a guest like him. He's a comedy phenomenon who

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never does anything by halves; please welcome Eddie Izzard.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Flown from alas ska. How was the crowd. I found

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the more extreme places you go to, I don't know if there is an analogy.

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If you present around the UK and go to extremes, people go, you came

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here. Alaska, goes, hey you came. All we know is Sarah Palin. But all

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the cool kids come. Had you been before? Had played Anchorage before.

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It must have been in the summer, because there was sun. It was minus

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17 in Fair Banks. So I was texted this before I went, I thought it was

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like the previous time at minus five. But you have to wear

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everything. We found this picture on your Twitter account. It is you and

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the forest making friends? They said, do you want to meet some

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reindeer? I love you have got red lipstick. It is kind of my trade

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mark thing. I was out there and thought I would meet rein Deest

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deer. -- reindeer. Dogs do this and go running around. The reindeer do

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that. One of them just said, hey, I'm going bonker and they would

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charge us to. This is a handy thing if you have reindeer coming to you

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in the UK. They might breed and they get in and sneak away in an air

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plane. You have to do big horns. Because they have the antlers and

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you have to go hey and do that kind of noise. This one kept going. I

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can't remember his name. It wasn't Rudolf. He kept coming up. I'm

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confident with animals and I have no fear thing. I do it with horses.

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Horses are powerful with children. It is like riding a mouse. You have

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got to treat it like it is a mouse. What the horse? Yes. No. A mouse. A

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mouse that has been inflated with a pump. It doesn't work. It is just

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they will do what they want and reindeer are the same you have to go

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Grrr. We will move on now from reindeer.

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Here's a question - if you are accused of a crime, go to

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court and are cleared of all charges who should pay your legal fees?

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Should it be the state, which accused you of the crime,

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or should it be you even if you did nothing wrong?

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Here's Joe. The old Bailey has seen some of the

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country east worst criminals jailed. But it has seen innocent people put

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on trial and critics say new rules on legal aid could spell rough

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justice. If you wind up in court it is harder to get legal aid to pay

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the fees for the lawyer who will defend you. Until three year ago,

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anyone declared not guilty in court would get around 80% of their legal

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costs paid from the public purse. No us the chances of -- now the chances

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of getting back the cash are in the balance. People like Mr Patel who

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owned this store for 30 years and is a respected member of the community.

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Last year a police raid turned that upside down. A lot of police and

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some agency people turned up in the shop to... Raid the place and they

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were saying we are looking for counter fit stamps. It was scary. I

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had no idea what was going on. Selling counter fit stamps is a

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serious offence. He had unwittingly bought some. I never knew counterfit

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stamps existed. The defence had to congins the jury he was innocent.

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And he was cleared after a seven day trial and thought his problems were

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behind him until he got the legal bill. It was about ?25,000. To clear

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your name? Yes. A couple of miles along the Thames the House of

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Commons, Nigel Evans is a former Deputy Speaker. He was cleared of

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sexual charges but was left with a bill of more than ?130,000. When

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your facing prison, you want to make sure when you're innocent you have

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got the best counsel. I had to have representation. Fortunately, I just

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happened to have that money there. But that was my life savings. It is

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now gone. I got none back. Len the changes came in you were Deputy

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Speaker and couldn't vote. If you're asking me the question would I have

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voted for them, the answer is probably yes. I suspect part of the

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problem is that when they were going through they were seen as a

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technical change. It only when you go through fire and you are

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acquitted and the thanks is by the way here is the invoice and it is

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six figures and you think, wow, what a barmy system we have created. With

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legal aid costing the taxpayer ?2 billion a year, the aim of the

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change is to cut that bill was far from barmy. Even some critics like

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this agree there were abuses of the old system. There were some cases in

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the old days which I don't think anybody would say were right. So

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there were some celebrities who took on very expensive lawyers, they got

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back really high sums for their legal costs. But she thinks the new

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earnings limit is too low. In the Crown Court if your income is above

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?37,000 a year, you won't get legal aid. If someone goes for what they

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would see as a top notch lawyer and costs a lot, should the taxpayer pay

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for that? I think the taxpayer should pay more than it does at the

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moment to lose. Which some people have their house, their life savings

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defending their own innocence cannot be fair. The Ministry of Justice

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said those who don't qualify for legal aid and are acquitted can

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reclaim a fraction of the costs. They add that as legal aid fundses

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are finite it is important to spend money as firnltly as possible --

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efficiently as possible. But that is scant consolation for those on the

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wrong end of the changes. I'm always worried if something happens, I have

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to have that much money. I had so much faith in the system. But now

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I'm scared. That little of scaredness will always stay with me.

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What is your reaction Eddie, if you're innocent do you think you

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should pay for your fees. No. I feel the same. That is what is set up

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for? It cops under recession. Joe remind us, you touched on it in the

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film why the changes came to be. It is about money. In the age of

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austerity, the Government fell the legal aid bill that was running

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away. There was cases they felt was taking advantage of legal aid,

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whether celebrities or wealthy people. There was one involving

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pharmaceutical companies accused of price fixing and that cost ?18

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million and some lawyers the government claimed were working

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full-time on legal aid and making vast sums. What evidence is there

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that legal costs are affecting the way people are pleading. We are

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seeing evidence now, Mr Patel in the film told me that he was seriously

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considering pleading guilty, it was a man proved to be innocent, because

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of cost. He knew he wouldn't get that money back. So that is one

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side. The other thing is the criminal court cost, which has come

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in this year. That is essentially the idea was for criminals to pay to

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the cost of the fees. And if you plead guilty, in a Magistrates'

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Court it will be a set fee of ?150 F you plead not guilty but you're

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found to be guilty that cost to be 1,200 pounds. This is a serious

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issue that magistrates have been outspoken on. They feel that is

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almost an incentive to plead guilty and they're worried where people are

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pleading guilty, because of the money. That is one area that might

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change. Last week a cross party group of MPs were suggesting that

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should be something that should be scrapped. Thank you. To another

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family message. Iwan is doing is shopping is how would you like your

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jewellery wrapped. A little box. He has some that has been wrapped in

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Channel Island mud for two thousand years and washed with sea water. I

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will take anything with a big bow. Jersey known for potatoes and

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cowings. -- cues. Cows. But three years ago three men stumbled across

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the largest haul of Celtic coins in history. Matt reported on the find

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in 2012 and now we have come back. What has happened in the last three

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years? We have been removing coins for almost 18 months and taken off

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about 30,000. Nearly half way? About 40% of the way through. And we have

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discovered this gold jewellery. Because it is too thick to X ray, we

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only find objects by removing coins. You will work and somebody will go,

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oh, we have some gold or a leaf or an insect. My temptation is rip it

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out. But you can't do that? We have to record every bit of information

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we can get. As we carried on removing the top we found these

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pieces of jewellery. If you asked us the ten most important things, some

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would be the remains of some textile things of no financial worth at all.

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But are of huge importance to telling the story of the object. Are

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you any closer to finding who it belonged to? About 99% of the coins

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belong to the core Sol tie tribe. Perhaps there was a battle and they

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wanted to hide it. We may get an idea back in the field. It thoughts

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the treasure is worth ?10 million. Not that Richard and Reg will get

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much. No attemptation to take any No it is owned by the crown and not by

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us or the state of Jersey. At some point discussions will take place.

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It has a soul of itself. I think the locals would love it to stay here

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intact. The find has become a spectator sport with locals coming

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to see what has been uncovered. How special it is to be here? I am a

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Jersey girl and this is is like one of most incredible things that's

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happened here. I'm interested to see how it unfolds. Every now and again

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they discover a little bit more. And a little bit more. And today how

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lucky are we, we turned up to see this. That is a crushed section.

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There we go. You're the first person to see the bottom of that in 2,000

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years. Over 2,000 years. Why do you keep returning? The fascination of

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seeing every bit being dug out. We have been coming almost every week.

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A lot has been learned, but with a similar amount of coins still to go,

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it will be some time until we unlock all the secrets of Jersey hoard. He

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will need a big box for that! Yes. Eddie, you are still very much on

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tour. We mentioned you're flown here from Alaska. This Force Majeure.

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There is no rules on touring. I could tour this show. I keep

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adjusting it. Here are all the places you have visited. 28

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countries. Is that a record for a comedy show? I am claiming that. I

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will claim it and wait for people to write in, answers on a post xard and

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they stay no. One guy played 27 he said. I said let's do 28. I grabbed

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Iceland and I have played before, but with this one2one show. When I

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get Spanish I can do central and South America and the rock and roll

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record is 51. But you are coming back to London. For a month long

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residency. An extra week. This is the type of thing that people can

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expect if they would like a ticket. Ancient dressage. It is a French

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words that means dressage. Where does it come from? Maybe the

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surrealist wars when people said men and women get on your horses ride to

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the horse and come up and do this... Saying this Mr Stevens... Go to

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trousers... Dah dah dah what is going on? Who watches it? You don't

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go when is the dressage on? It comes up on the screen and you go... Oh...

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We are back to horses, Eddie. It is obviously fine control, and hats off

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to the men and women for winning the medals. But I just think, what can

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you use that for? After that, or you can do is pack a horse in the

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cupboard, and that is not necessarily useful for the horse or

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yourself. Do you have an unexpected highlight of this tour you have been

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on so far? What surprised you the most? We have stumped Eddie Izzard.

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My highlight was playing Paris at the Olympia, which is like the

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Albert Hall crossed with Brixton academy. And I sold it out, 2006,

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all playing in French. David Bowie has played there, Jimi Hendrix. I

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sold it out and did it all French. And it is 200 years since the battle

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of Waterloo, so that is beautiful, especially considering what has

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happened recently. I have just Tour de France are doing it in French and

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now I am doing it in English. Extremists are trying to change our

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way of life, but we will not be moved. We know you love languages.

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You are off to Southern America next month, so we thought we would come

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up with a couple of phrases you might want to crowbar in. For the

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locals. We have got them here. We have got that dills my pickle. The

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dog will hunt. And my eyeballs are floating. That is a drunk one. No,

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it means I need to give to the loo. Because you are drunk. Is it? I have

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heard it. And the dog will not hunt is one I have heard in a film. I am

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hailed Americana. I think like an American, in the sense of an

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economic migrant. Touring France in French is not on the list of things

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to do. I like to do things. That dills my pickle, that means

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something irritates you. Really? I like it when they say, you all come

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back, even when you are only one person. I am playing Birmingham,

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Alabama. That will be interesting. I am not mainstream Alabama. It will

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be all the cool people. If you get one in, let us know. If you are

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around the world, you can see Eddie at the Palace Theatre in London from

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the 18th of January for five weeks. Now, experts around the world have

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long claimed that singing is really good for us. It can apparently help

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us breathe better, boost our immune system and also reduce stress. But

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can it stop you from snoring? # Sweet dreams till sunbeams find

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you. Ah, sweet dreams. But night-time can

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be a nightmare if you are next to someone like this.

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LOUD SNORING. As many as one in four of us snores,

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and it can play havoc with your personal life, particularly if you

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are as loud as Colette. I had sleep apnoea when I was

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morbidly obese, and that is a condition where you go to sleep and

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you think you are asleep, but your airway is obstructed because you are

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so fat, so you nearly wake up and snuffle and go back to sleep for

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half a minute, and then you stop breathing again, so you never get a

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good night's sleep. Despite losing eight and a half stone, her snoring

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has never gone away and has even caused problems in a relationship

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she was in. Now, Collette worries that snoring might jeopardise her

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future. Is this the final bit of the jigsaw, the snoring? There is a hope

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that I could return to the dating scene, but I don't want this snoring

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to get in the way of my relationships. Today, we have

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brought Collette to the peaceful surrounds of Exeter to try and get

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help with her snoring problems from an expert. She is a choir director

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who has advised a series of vocal exercises that she claims can help

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people get rid of troublesome snoring. It sounds a bit odd, but

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singing and snoring use the same part of our vocal apparatus. Snoring

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happens when we breeding and the soft palate and tissue in the back

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of the throat begin to vibrate. In many cases, this happens when the

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muscles there are in bad shape, particularly if we are in for

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weight. The singing programme for snorers aims to tone up the muscles

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in the soft palate by moving it up and down, the tongue, forwards and

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back, giving the whole area a work-out. But not all snoring can be

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helped by turning up the throat muscles, so her programme may not

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work for everybody, although Collette is optimistic. If I can

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improve the strength of the muscles in the rest of my body, there is no

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reason why I can't improve the strength of the muscles in my

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throat. Will Elise's vocal exercises work for Collette? Only time will

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tell. For three months, Collette sings... And sleeps. And sings...

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And sleeps. All the time, keeping a record of her snoring habits. So,

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has it helped? I am back to check the results with the aid of an app

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that has been analysing Collette's snoring patterns. On this device, it

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tells me how often you snored last night and what the volume was. This

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is what it sounds like. I can't hear anything! There was a spike here in

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noise. That is nothing. According to this, you only snored, and that was

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not even a snore, for 9% of your sleepless night. No! I don't think

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this one will be keeping anyone awake. It was the one thing I was

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anxious about that might stop me getting into a relationship. So it

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seems you really can sing yourself snoreless. Good luck! That is

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fascinating. We can pass that on to people we know. I can fall asleep

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easily and I do wake up making a snorting sound, which is not cool in

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trains and planes and automobiles and getting your haircut. So that is

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very interesting. And I am singing more. I sing in the show. Actually,

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it is a nice sound. My mother was a singer. She sang at the Albert Hall

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enquires. She was an amateur singer, but she did sing. There may

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be a voice genetically somewhere. Our bodies are an instrument, you

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just have to learn how to play. Eddie, we don't know what your sea

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legs are like, but this film will be very nostalgic for all amateur

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sailors out there. Buster bring us the story of the man who brought the

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sport to the masses in the 1960s. Any second now. Just rewinding it.

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Sailing was not a cheap hobby. Boats were built by hand eye craftsmen,

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making them too expensive for most people. However, one man had a dream

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of making sailing accessible to anybody, by designing a boat which

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was affordable for ordinary folks. He was Barry but Noel, the BBC's DIY

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guru, and a man usually seen on by land. Hello! In this programme, I

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had better tackle a job I have been putting off for a long time. In

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1962, Barry began drawing up the plans for what became the Mirror

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dinghy. I have come to the annual gathering of Mira sailors instead

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only to find out how Barry's boat became the most widely owned to

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person sailing dinghy in the world. Dougal Henschel has researched the

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origins of this boat and its links with the daily paper. Barry

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Bucknell, Mr DIY, goes to the pub with the BBC team, and there were

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other people there from the Mirror. They picked up on the story that

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Barry Bucknell was designing and building his own boat. In post-war

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Britain, the idea of owning your own boat was highly fashionable. So the

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Mirror put up the money to develop Barry Bucknell's plans, on condition

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that the boat was named after the paper and the sales were read like

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their paper. Barry designed the first kit boat that anyone could

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build at home. Everything came in a box. You took it out of the box and

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build yourself a boat. A key design feature was the lack of a

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traditional pointed bow. The hardest part of building any boat is getting

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that pointed shape at the front. By putting this flat panel in, you take

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away over half the complexity of the task. You stitch the two panels

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together with bits of copper wire, and then lay a strip of glass fibre

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tape along that, and you have made the joint. The first Mirror kit sold

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for just ?63, about ?800 in today's money. They took the idea of

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building a boat and made it into something that anybody could build.

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You didn't need to be a boat builder or a woodworker. You could make one

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of these in your lounge in 100 hours in the winter. And you could turn it

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upside down and put it on the roof of your car and drive around with

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it, and people did. It wasn't long before these were selling at the

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rate of over 250 a month. Within a few years, Britain was swept by

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Mirror mania. Suddenly, suburban garage is up and down the land were

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filled with the sound of planing, sawing and hammering. Dad built it.

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It was a pale yellow colour when he had finished, and it was the best

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thing in the world. The Mirror is now over 50, but its appeal hasn't

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aged a bit. I used to sail with my mum and dad. Now we are coming down

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and doing the same with our kids. It is a great way to spend the holiday.

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You can fit three people in it, so you can sail with your friend 's.

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But this little boat is capable of high-performance tailing, and the

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rise of the Mirror was parallel with the rise of sailing as a competitive

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sport. Today, Britain has more Olympic gold medals in sailing than

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any other nation. # Here comes the Mirror. Now it is

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my turn. They are very responsive on the tiller, really quick. 70,633 is

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the number on your boat. It is a little boat with a huge heart. It

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sails like a big boat. You learn your skills in one of these, you

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have good skills that will take you right away through life. Barry

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Bucknell's DIY approach to dinghy making undoubtedly a revolution in

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British sailing. In democratising the sport, he made sailing available

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to everybody, even you, Buster, old sea dog that he is.

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What a wonderful story. A big thank you to Eddie for joining us this

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evening. You can see him in London from the 18th of January. The

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tomorrow with Dara O Briain. Bye-bye.

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