26/01/2012 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.

And Alex Jones. Our guest tonight is an actor who knows how to pick a

winning role. He's been in some of the biggest

telly hits of the last decade from Cold Feet to Downton Abbey.

But, as he recently found out, sometimes producing a roaring

success means working with some fearsome co-stars.

Come on! It is Robert Bathurst! He is safe! We understand that that

was in the first couple of days of filming. In my first week. The

director said the lawyer and was well trained -- have the lion.

type of form does one sign to say, I am OK with a wild lion chasing

me? I assumed it would be CGI! The last thing the directors said was,

don't worry, it won't kill you, and Action! But his sense that power So

Close! It is extraordinary. -- to sense the power so close. It was

very well trained. But it was great, exciting. A baptism of fire. We

will find out more about that later. If you have a photo of you in a

terrible tie, we would like to see The more horrific, the better. We

will show them later on. The war on drugs is 100 years old

this week. In 1912 the UK signed an international treaty to stop the

trade in opium, more seen and cocaine.

By the 70s, a different drug was making headlines and the residents

of a small town in Wales, a small amount was being produced right

under their noses. This story, behind one of the biggest blasts in

history. Tregaron is a small market town in

mid-Wales where not much ever happens. Until 1977, when locals

found themselves at the centre of one of the biggest undercover

police operations Britain had ever seen. No one in Tregaron had any

clue at all that the crime of the century was being perpetrated under

their very noses. Back in the late 60s, Britain had embraced flower-

power and with it, LSD. LSD is one of the most powerful, mind

affecting substances known to man. In a few cases, it does in fact

drive people mad, can make them go and kill other people. Despite

being illegal, reports suggest 100,000 acid tabs were being taken

in Britain every week. Police knew vast amounts were being

manufactured somewhere but they hadn't got a clue where. This

person works in one of the illegal acid factories. We thought we had

found the tour that would help if sold the world's problems. Don't

forget, we were living in a world with the threat of the bomb and we

thought that by taking LSD, we could live in peace and harmony.

and his conspirators evaded capture for years but in 1975, police found

ripped up pieces of paper in a crashed car from Tregaron. Pieced

together, they read the name of the chemical used in the manufacture of

LSD. Believing they stumbled on the drug ring, police hatched Operation

Julie. Undercover cops were put into Tregaron disguised as hippies.

When I was undercover as a hippy, I had a very unkempt beard, I had

very dishevelled hair. There were times when we had to literally sit

side-by-side with some of the people we were watching. We could

easily have blown the whole investigation to pieces and spoilt

it. The car belonged to Richard Kemp, who lived near Tregaron with

his girlfriend, Christine. This is where Richard camp and Christine

Laird. The police would have been keeping an eye on this place.

used to watch from the top of the hill with binoculars. All of the

houses around here became police houses. They even set up a fight

between one of the hippies and the local policeman, so it would look

genuine. Living as hippies for a year, police kept tabs on a

suspected drugs ring, and breaking into a cellar, be finally found the

proof they had been looking for. They have to climb over a mountain

of debris. Suddenly, they turned the corner and they found this. The

seller was the centre of a worldwide organisation. In here,

Richard made 20 million doses of LSD, certainly one of the major

illicit LSD laboratories ever found. A 26th March 1977, the police made

their moves. 800 officers raided 87 houses across the UK, making 120

arrests. You were staying down the lane? Right at the bottom of the

lane. Is that way you were when the police arrested you? Yes, at 5

o'clock in the morning. They burst in. I was hauled from bed by six

policemen. It was one of the worst moments in my life. You recognise

what you were doing was wrong. rare recognise it was illegal but

personally, I did not think it was morally wrong. 15 people were found

guilty and sentenced to a combined 120 years in prison. It was

something which every one of us will take pride in, and for years

afterwards, even now, that we were part of that particular

investigation. I was sentenced to eight years in prison. My family

were extremely shocked. Some of my relatives decided they didn't want

anything to do with me again. Of course I had regrets. My own

actions put me in prison for a long time. Who would not regret that?

Operation Julie was Britain's first really big drugs bust. What started

as an idealistic dream ended with the harsh reality of prison.

Some strawberry, Robert! It has been made into a book but never a

film -- story. It would make a great film. In the middle of Wales,

1970s costumes! In the late 70s, you were in Cambridge studying law

but is it fair to say your heart was not in it? No, absolutely not.

Why did you study law? Added history with law, I would rather

have done history -- I did history. I staggered through it. But you

wanted to be an actor from an early age? Yes, from the age of 13. I did

not know how to get into it. As Lownie worked my way through,

trying to find a way in. -- I slowly worked my way. And this is a

7th series of Wild At Heart. Yes, Stephen Tomkins's runs the whole

thing and my character comes in for various reasons and is Danny's boss

in some capacity but then they get trapped working together, so like

all good dramas, two different sorts of people get trapped

together, and that is the situation in the episode on Sunday. We are

stuck together. We are in business. And also on Sunday, a familiar face

returns. This is you meeting her. What are you doing here? I got

expelled from but in every school. What? It is a joke! I thought she

could help out. Did you now? Yes, that is what we do. I am capable of

picking up any slack. No, please do. There you play a convincing vet.

You think I'd do? Yes! I think I look like something out of the

butchers. I had to pretend I was doing an operation. You have a vet

standing by to give you the moves. Training was fairly limited. They

give you a quick briefing. As the series progresses, you get more

adept. Did you get into that side of it? Yes. You are doing the scene

but also fiddling around with things that you are not sure you

are doing. You try to become more adept. Filming Wild At Heart, you

are in South Africa for six months of the year. Is it difficult with

your family life? No, I enjoy the work, I don't enjoy the absence at

all. There is probably enough actors who do not get enough work

screaming at the television saying, you should be so lucky, so I will

not moan about it. I was in the last three episodes of the first

series of Downton Abbey. What do you brought us think about you

being chatted up by somebody their age in Downton Abbey? I know! The

older man chasing the younger woman! That must be wait for them

to watch. They have not expressed that side of it but in Edwardian

times, a man of substance chasing...! A person a quarter of

his age! You don't have to go on about it! Wild At Heart is on ITV

on Sunday at 8:30pm. You are used to going head-to-head

with animals but last night, Mike Dilger wrestled a polecat. This is

how it went! He is wriggling all over the place!

Let's hope that tonight's patients at Tiggywinkles are less wild at

heart. It is the aim of the rescue centre

to get every animal possible back into the wild. He came in four

weeks ago and is just about ready to go but it needs quite a few of

the nursing staff to ensure he does not do any further damage to

himself. If we do not grab him quickly, he will fracture his

antlers. He keeps banging his head against the door and that is why we

need seven people. Every time the door opens, his natural flight

instinct takes over and that is when he can hurt himself. We have

They have amazing back leg muscles to push themselves up and can jump

pretty high, but the team have managed to catch and sedate him.

They have short antlers, the males, which can regrow into full-size by

autumn. These types of muntjacs were introduced in the beginning of

the 20th century. Where was the damage before? There was a

fractured through the base of his antlers and now you can feel a

really nice bone formation. The hard ridge. It is a new bone. The

antlers of really nice and stable so it has healed completely.

nurses treat hundreds of muntjac a year and those that are well enough

will be released back into the wild. How does it feel to release the

idea that you rescued? It is great, especially as he woke me up at 1

o'clock in the morning! Muntjac can be released under special licence

and within one kilometre up or where they were found. What a jump!

-- one kilometre of where they were found. Every couple of months,

Tiggywinkles received a very special visitor whose sole job it

is to ensure some of the patients are able to bite back. Peter is a

west London dental surgeon. For the past three decades, he has also

specialised in animal's teeth all over the world. He has been

treating animals here for over 20 years. His first patient today is

eight Fox, who has gum inflammation and a few damaged teeth -- is a fox.

His premolar is broken. His canine is worn down. And the animal could

survive the world with these teeth? It certainly can. If I really felt

they were vital for survival, I would not take his teeth out,

unless there was major infection. Under general anaesthetic, the fox

spends 50 minutes on the table. Three teeth have come out. You have

sorted out the infection between the canines. What are his chances

of being Locate in the wild? mouth will be fine. -- of being OK?

He will lead a healthy and happy life. And once he is fully

recovered, he will be released back into the wild with a new West End

smile. It is not hard to work out well all of the staff adore little

owls. They have got that permanent scowl on their face! Them really

interesting thing is that little owls came here in the 19th century

but is one of the few species that actually complements the ecosystem

rather than aggressively taking What is the story behind this

fellow? He was reported stuck up a chimney. We wept and got him down

safely. He was -- went and got him down safely. He was covered in soot

and stuff. So long as he is doing well, he is ready to be released

now. Three, two, one and off. Little owl numbers are in decline

in the UK. It is great to get one back out there. Tomorrow is my

final day on wildlife rescue. There are some Red Kites that need

releasing... If I can catch one! That is tomorrow night. Yes, it is.

I saw a fox on the patio yesterday, smiling at me - lovely set of teeth

he had! Talking about helping animals in

need, there was a real life rescue on the set? I was not around for

that, but the giraffe got stuck in the swimming pool. They filmed what

happened. The crew went and did this.... Here he is getting out.

What happened? I gather a giraffe has to keep its head above its

heart. The pool was only four feet deep. So the giraffe had to go deep

in the water. It fainted and got into the pool. She was pregnant.

was very serious. They tried all sorts of methods. Eventually they

scraped out the side of the pool. It was the swimming pool next to

the leopard's den. The giraffe wouldn't go anywhere near it

afterwards. If you were injured at work and had to make a claim you

might think your bad luck had ended there. What if you found out you

were being secretly filmed by your employer's insurance company?

How would you feel if someone was secretly filming you as you went

about your daily routine? Well, that is what happened to Irene

Heslop. We are all familiar with images like these - benefit cheats,

apparently too sick to work, but fit enough to run a marathon. It

seems that some private companies are filming their own staff if they

suspect them of fraudulent injury claims. So, is Irene a fraudster?

have never done - I wouldn't do that. I am not that sort of person.

I was stunned! Now, according to the lawyers that

we have spoken to, secret filming is becoming common place in the

world of personal injury claims. This is a -- is this a justified

way to catch cheats, or is it an invasion of our privacy? Irene

enjoyed working at ASDA for seven years, but after slipping on a

broken egg at work she was left with a suspected fractured spine.

What does that mean? I cannot work now.

I've retired. I cannot lift, push. Although the supermarket giant

admitted liability early on, it appears they didn't entirely

believe the impact the injury had on Irene's ability to work. Despite

a medical report saying Irene couldn't continue in her job, ASDA

decided to put her under surveillance. Irene received a

massive shock when her lawyer sent her the footage. When you wasm it

back, what does it -- watch it back, what does it make you feel? Gutted.

I cannot believe that somebody has been in that shop and been

following me. All I was doing was doing my chores for that day.

What do you think they were hoping to prove by videoing you? Did this

undermine your case at all? I don't know. I have never said I couldn't

walk. In fact, Irene's claim was for loss of earnings as she could

no longer lift or push heavy loads, which had been a key part of her

job. ASDA told The One Show that nothing's more important to us than

providing a safe environment for our colleagues and customers. When

things go wrong, we hold our hands up and say "sorry." From time to

time, we feel it is right to do a Fact Check to make sure we offer

the appropriate resolution. Irene's was one of those cases. We continue

to wish her all the best in her recovery. Can you understand why

some companies do this? Obviously there have been fraudsters in the

past? Yes, you read about it and you see it on the television.

People make claims and then people see them running in marathons and

such. But I've never worked from the day that I had that accident.

Fraud costs the insurance industry �2 billion every year. It adds �44

to everybody's insurance bill. This is clearly a big problem. If secret

filming is becoming more common place, who is there to ensure it is

not abused? The slightly perverse thing is the police and public

authorities if they want to put somebody under surveillance they

have to go under certain processes to establish it is appropriate to

do so. There are not enough protections even in that field.

Certainly employers should not be able to put people under greater

surveillance than the police can. In Irene's case it was instigated

by ASDA. In some cases it is the insurance companies who decide to

do it. Are there any rules to protect the public's privacy?

insurance company can monitor who ever they like. It does not make

business sense. They will do all the normal in-house checks. They

will only do surveillance if they think there is a need to get that

final piece of evidence. If they break the law, then the claimant

has a right to be upheld in the courts. We have to trust you when

you say your members are doing it properly? It is a balance between

privacy and the rights of the individual. The great majority of

people who make a claim have a legitimate reason to do so. So

insurers trust customers. Irene has succeeded in her

compensation claim and received �27,000. She has not fully

recovered. The accident that I had was not my fault. I was just doing

my job. How has this left you feeling now? Paranoid. Paranoid and

depressed. Well, of course we wish Irene all

the best with her recovery. Justin Rowlatt is here. Putting Irene's

case to one side for a minute, people often say we are sliding

into a compensation culture. What evidence do you have to support

that statement? There has been a dramatic increase in personal

injury claims, up 72% between 2002- 2010. If we take one category -

whiplash. Very serious injury. We are not suggesting they are not

real injuries. There were 1,600 every day. That is more than one in

fact for every minute of every hour of the day. It is a big problem.

Obviously somebody has to pay for this. Yes, we do. We pay for it.

The insurance companies pay for it. Whiplash alone, for example, is

reckoned to cost �2 billion a year to the UK insurance industry. It

means every motor insurance premium - �90 is to pay off whiplash claims.

Take ASDA, ASDA reckons that the payouts for all the personal injury

payouts it has to make means it has to keep five stores open for a year

to make the extra profit. If these claims are going up and up, what is

being done to control it? Government has brought in a Bill,

it is to drive the costs down. There are referral fees. They are

to claimant, solicitors, they will stop. They will reduce success fees

F you are successful, you get a success fee. At the moment it could

be as much as double the costs. It increases the cost of the claim.

They are saying that should be reduced to a quarter of the cost.

Instead of the person who has lost the case paying it, they make the

claim. It reduces the amount of money you are likely to get when

you bring one of these claims. have a different type of explaining

to do now. Yes, this is what you wore when you

went to interview the Ukrainian President. It caused uproar. There

were letters, even the odd radio call-in. Where was your tie?

think I was taking a liberal approach to the dress code. He was

formally dressed. I can see, you are wearing a lovely tie. I wore

this for you tonight. People appear with lose collars.

Justin has been on a mission to make amends for this shabby chic

style. David Cameron, in a formal tie, giving a speech. What about

this image? No problem at all. don't like it. A man in his

position he should be wearing a tie. Should he wear a tie? I like to see

him more crucial. Like that? Yes. Here is me interviewing the

President of the Ukraine. Is this rude of me to turn up like this?

No. I don't think so. Yes. I think you look nice without one. But you

were interviewing the President of the Ukraine. You are representing

the BBC there. You should have had a tie on. Really? Clearly I need

some advice on my dress code. It has to be from someone with a

strong opinion, someone who is daring, someone who is willing to

tackle an issue head-on. Do you think I am dressed appropriately?

think you dress like a tramp. on. Supposing you had gone to

interview this President in your swimming trunks? Would that be

appropriate. I wish I would not wear a tie as well. But I am not

making a pathetic statement of my vanity, by refusing to do people

the basic courtesy of dressing how they dress.

I clearly need help, from The Beatles to Bernie Eccleston, this

tailor has designed suits for them all. It -- is a suit complete

without a tie? No. It says a lot about a person. You can wear a

plain piece of cloth. Once you introduce colour, so you start to

romance and bring to life the outfit. I will do the forehand.

There are different tie-knots. different collar shapes, basically.

You keep the knot lose, do you? the moment I am directing the silk

into the centre of the knot, so we get a nice knot. Am I starting to

meet your high standards? You look different to the chap who arrived.

We cannot show a lot of cleavage like a young lady, but we can be

suitably dressed to escort them. With my sharp new suit and stylish

new tie, maybe I should have made more effort in the past, and maybe

an apology is in order. Mr Ambassador, very nice to see you. I

have bought you a small present. I hope it is appropriate for an

ambassador. I hope I am dressed appropriately for our meeting.

really do. I will try and make up for the mistakes I made when I met

your President. Thank you. I appreciate your kindness. I would

like to give you a gift as well. tie!

A tie, with the Ukrainian colours and the Olympic emblem. It looks

very well. It suits your suit. Thank you very much indeed, Mr

Ambassador. He is back sporting the tie. Look

at this! Is that better? Has that raised the

code. I think everyone needs to dress up to me!

You match the tie which has been sent in on that picture in front of

you. Earlier we asked you to send in photos of bad ties. This is

Louis Smith, aged ten, from Falkirk in Scotland. You have beaten me!

This is a Christmas Day photograph from the whacky members of the

members of the St Andrews United Reform Church. Look at this. This

is Phil on holiday in Crete. Imagine the tan on that!

What about Ian wearing a tie his daughter made for him on father's

day and he has worn it every father's day since.

Thank you for the photos. Thank you for coming in. If you

want to watch Wild at Heart you can, it is on 8.30pm on Sunday. Tomorrow