26/08/2014 The One Show

Hello, welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

Tonight's first guest has become a modern-day Dr Doolittle. He is

surrounded by pigs, sheeps, goats, ducks, a barn owl. On-screen, we

have seen him talking to elephants, cheetahs and the odd hippo. He is

most happy when he is in the doghouse. There he is. Please

welcome Paul O'Grady. How are you? Very well, thanks. Lovely to see

you. Apart from this lousy weather driving me mad. It is nearly dark

out there. I spent bank holiday watching daytime television! I can't

imagine what that looks like. The lady we spoke to on the phone said

we know animals respond to your voice. You have been trying to get

this dog up the stairs for a long time? She wouldn't do stairs. Why

not? She wouldn't. She was a bit Mariah Carey. I had a word and she

shot up the stairs. This was supposed to happen over a few weeks.

That was ruined. There was another dog who hadn't eaten for three

weeks. I said, "Get that down you!" That was ruined as well. It is the

gift of the gab! I think it is. We will talk more about your new

series, For the Love of Dogs, later. OK. One man who needs no words of

encouragement is Mo Farah. After this record-breaking weekend, he is

having a ball. Quite literally! All in aid of charity. Mo is with us

tonight and all will be revealed later. He made the most of his

weekend, Paul! I know he did. He wasn't watching How To Cook! First,

how is the threat of Islamic State and the recruitment of British young

men to its cause regarded by British Muslims? Well, we went to

Birmingham, a city with a Muslim population of 235,000, to canvas

opinion as the news reported the murder of an American journalist and

the persecution of minorities in Iraq.

It doesn't surprise me. It is wrong. It is not right for any human being.

They have been driven by this agitation and frustration. Young

people are seeing injustices. They are going to defend what they think

is morally justified reasons. When you think your brother and sister,

or a member of the family, have been slaughtered for no reason, what

would you feel like? You can't handle it. You dant take it. Surely,

it is anti-Islamic to kill? The Americans are encouraging them. So

they take the law into their hands. How can the Muslim community stop

these youngsters from going to fight for groups like IS? More than 90% of

people, they don't agree with this thing. They are against these

things. Our kids are growing here. We don't need that terrorist and

that stuff. We need peace here. I can't understand why they would go

and fight for another country. I mean, I'm a British - I would rather

fight for British. Or Britain. Is the West to blame? The sectarian

violence inthe US. Violence breeds violence. What are Muslim women

doing about the situation? They are doing what any mother would do, what

any sister would do, what any wife would do. They can monitor

behaviours and behavioural patterns to spot anything that's untoward. No

mother wants their son going abroad to be killed, do they? Why are some

young Muslims going off to fight in Iraq and Syria? I have not come

across anyone who is planning to go in Iraq or in Syria. I think most of

the people are being brainwashed. I think they have been told that Islam

teaches to do this, this, this. And that teaching has been interpreted

wrongly. Islam is peace. As a Muslim, we have been taught to like

any human that's seen in trouble, go out and help them. They should stop

the innocent being killed in Gaza and maybe the whole world will be at

peace. If they don't put a stop to that, I think it will end up in

World War. If American people, or Israeli, taking so many innocent

lives, so many, and this retaliation to show America, or show to the

world, if we cannot kill so many, may we kill one. It is brutal

murder. It is a wrong thing to do. It's a message for America, to do

the justice. Maajid Nawaz is a former Islamist

extremist. He is a parliamentary candidate and he joins us now.

Welcome. We didn't find any support for IS in the film there, although

people were keen to blame Britain and the US for helping to create it.

We heard references to Gaza. Do you think they are right then? Or is

there an element of denial there? It is a lot more complicated than that.

If we look at the kids that have gone over to join IS in Iraq, yes,

we all disagree with foreign policy sometimes. I'm sure plenty of people

have got plenty of things to say. What do those young kids have to do

with Israel? What about the Yazidis they drove up a mountain and

threatened genocide against them? They have nothing to do with Israel.

We have to stop blaming one party and just as we expect the West and

this society to condemn foreign policy, grievances and where there

is torture and imprisonment, Muslims have to condemn atrocities when it

is committed by other Muslims as well. What is the attraction then to

young Brits, to join an organisation that is causing such atrocities?

It's become the new trend, the new fashion, but unfortunately there is

a jihadi call going on. When Robin Williams died, one of these guys is

with a group that beheads people, but he regretted Robin Williams

dying. It is a power attraction that is drawing them in? We have to have

leading Muslim figures stand up to encourage these young kids to get

involved with the system, with the country, and with the institutions.

We can succeed here. There is a lot of talk about stopping these

youngsters from going to Syria to fight. If you came face to face with

one of these people in the airport before they are about to board the

plane, what would you say to them then to try and convince not to go?

I would plead with these people. Get in touch with me. I have witnessed

the torture. I know what that anger feels like. Get in touch with me.

I'm all over social media. I will speak to them directly and say you

are not helping your religion and you are not helping the Syrians. You

have made it impossible to remove the dictator. Everyone is talking

about stopping IS. The tables have turned. Everyone is more scared of

this terrorist group than they were of the dictator in Syria. It's

backfiring. Please get in touch with me. I can explain how it feels and I

was a political prisoner in the war on terror. This country will embrace

you if you turn around. Please get in touch. There is a chance that

human compassion will take over and some of these actions will draw

people away? Human compassion is crucial, but what's needed before

that happens is people to come forward as role models and to start

speaking out openly. have to take those first few brave

steps. We are starting a campaign to promote these role models to present

a positive image of what Muslims can achieve in this country and we all

want to stand together and say the solution is to engage with this

country, people will listen. Elections are coming up in May. I

want young people to register to vote, not to disengage from the

system, like I did when I was 16. Thank you. Thank you. In a moment,

we will be hearing all about Paul's new series, the third one. First,

Michael Mosley meets an extraordinary young entrepreneur

with an invention that could help us all.

18-year-old Amber McCleary is an entrepreneur, with an idea that

could save many lives. Amber has created a range of clothing for

hospital patients. What makes her invention unusual is the material

it's impregnated with - copper. It all began when she was just 16.

Thanks to her smelly dog, Harvey! My initial idea was to create a dog bed

that would be non-smelling, so I researched a number of fabrics to

find out which fabrics would be anti-bacterial because it's the

bacteria that creates the smell. This led Amber to the properties of

copper. We worked with a few fabric technologists and we found a way to

put the copper into the fabric. Is this a copper-impregnated dog

basket? It sure is. The fabric that you can see on the outside is copper

fabric, copper impregnated. Have you tried it on your smelly dog? I did.

How did you get from materials which are about reducing the smell to

hospital-acquired infections? One of my family went into hospital to have

a baby and she contracted MRSA. I created a pair of pyjamas and it

went from there. Although we can't be sure that wearing the pyjamas

helped, Amber has developed a business based on the anti-microbial

properties of this common metal. MRSA poss a threat to -- pose a

threat to our health. So, could something as simple as copper really

be effective against such a deadly foe? This professor has been at the

forefront of research into this area. Today, he's coated pieces of

stainless steel and copper with millions of MRSA bacteria to compare

their anti-bacterial properties. The bacteria's progress will be studied

in the specially-darkened room, while we watch the results next

door. They should now be loading the microscopes up. Here we go. The

green specks are MRSA, tagged with a fluorescent dye. Within seconds, the

effects of the copper is clear. That is fast. These were exactly the same

but within seconds of adding them, the copper started to kill. That is

correct. The MRSA superbug thrives on stainless steel, but on copper,

they are wiped out within minutes. That is really, really impressive, I

have to say. That is ten million superbugs dying before your eyes.

How does copper kill bacteria? We know more about the mechanism.

Copper does it three-ways. As it races into the cell, it punches

whole into the cell membrane. It inhibits the respiration and it

destroys their DNA. Copper could have a wide range of applications

throughout a hospital. If you do something as simple as replace door

handles with copper-based alloys, studies have shown that can cut

infection rates by a half. Amber is hoping if she can persuade enough

patients to wear copper-impregnated clothing, that could have a

significant effect on the spread of infections. They have begun testing

Amber's innovative fabrics. Although not pure metal, the copper material

is still effective and after 24 hours, the MRSA bacteria have been

eradicated. It is really interesting and reassuring that the fabric also

has this anti-microbial activity and it looks promising. Researchers at

Croydon University Hospital are planning to do clinical trials of

Amber's clothing, hoping to see if it does slow the spread of infection

and whether it might promote wound healing. My aim is that we can get

these products out into the NHS. That will be something great, not

just for the NHS but for patients as well. The future is golden, or

coppery? Yes, definitely coppery! would say it is unbelievable! We

need to make these so fars out of copper! We have got all sorts of

people sitting on these! You worked in a hospital? I was a

physiotherapist assistant. You had this Irish dragon of a ward sister

who wanted to know what you're doing and when the orderlies were there,

they were organised and cleaning. In the hospital corners, and the matron

did her rounds, everybody was terrified of her about the place was

spotless. Why can't we do that again? Give them a good wage and

train them how to clean the ward. Bring back the hierarchy of the

sisters. Make visitor hours between such and such a time. On to the

dogs. I am off on one again! Because I really value the national health

and we have to do something to save it. It saved me on numerous

occasions. Saving dogs back at Battersea, the third series and it

is incredibly popular. Why do people like it? It has spawned all of these

copycats. But what annoys me is they don't get me, they sort of... Do you

want me to hold him? What they do is they don't go near them, this is a

dog. But I get stuck in. He let the wild animals come to you what

domesticated animals, you can fuss over them. How can I resist? How

long was it before you adopted one of them? There he is. I go home and

wordy. It does not finish whenever I leave Battersea. There was a dog

that I fell head over heels for and I have to take. I did not count on

Eddie, my other blog who was so fiercely possessive. They could not

get on? He encouraged the others to attack her! And she was so passive,

I could not believe her. I had to stay in the house. They had to be

rescued from your house? Yes, I said leave it in because it shows that it

is not easy adopting a dog. There are all sorts of things you need to

take into consideration. Here you are in full Doctor Dolittle mode,

talking to the animals. Gromit? Makeweight, we will have a chat!

Right, let me get down. I want to talk to you. Do you know what your

trouble is? Clinical obesity. But I don't pull my punches, you are fat!

This has to stop. Philadelphia, progressing to Cheddar cheese and

then the hard stuff, from France. I have been there! It is terrible, so

hard. You go in there and what gets me are the older dogs whose owners

have died and they have ended up in Battersea and they have all sorts of

ailments and they are sitting in the kennel thinking, why am I hear? That

breaks my heart. We have seen me as Lily Savage, all of those years

behind you. What is it next chapter? I will be reading the news and

weather next! Are you where you want to be? Or do you have more? For the

love of dangerous reptiles! See if anybody tries to copy that!

Something less fluffy. But I really enjoy it, it is a very nice job to

do and it is great for Battersea. People say to me, I always wondered

what goes on there. And you find out, they are such good people. You

should the true picture. I love it. All of those lovely dogs and when I

retire I will be on Channel 4 in a documentary, sitting with a pig next

to me on the couch! You are not far-away! I am covered in cuts! That

is from an aisle! For The Love Of Dogs starts on Thursday the 4th of

September at 8:30pm on ITV. We will talk to Mo Farah in a moment, he is

fresh from his record picking weekend. First, Moorland is on the

trail of the dog that would give him a run for his money. I have gone

down to Battle in East Sussex for a unique spectacle of canine

behaviour. This is a bloodhound packs, doing what they do best.

Hunting, living and breathing as they would have done thousands of

years ago. No other dog can hoover up the scent as well as a bloodhound

but one generation ago, they would have died out completely but for the

efforts of breeders like Nick Wheeler. I have got 18 couples

altogether. They are counted in pairs. I will leave you to work that

out! Bloodhounds can eat six kilos every day so years of wartime

rationing in the 40s saw them become nearly extinct. We get to well over

one tonne of food every month. And they take a lot of exercising, they

exercise every day to keep fit, they are in a lot of work. A bloodhound

needs to be exercised up to ten miles everyday. It is not the dog

for a leisurely country walk. Tell me more about when breeding, what

characteristics are you trying to get? Obviously, hunting ability is

paramount. Agility is very important, they have to be able to

do the job of hunting. Unlike other breeds, bloodhounds do not use their

eyes to hunt scent trails, only the nose. Their long years help to

funnel the smell. The nose is down, sniffing the air. Bloodhounds have

an almost supernatural ability, earning it a unique place in

history. The story of the English bloodhound is the story of the

English nation. They came over with William the Conqueror intensity six

and from then on, English rulers have used the formidable powers of

the bloodhound to track down enemies. One example would be

Elizabeth first, it is believed that a troop of 800 bloodhounds

accompanied her forces to crush the Irish Rebellion, which was quite

successful. The word bloodhound has become a metaphor for a detective.

That started at the start of the 19th century, crime writers were

important to making this connection so, like the bloodhound, Sherlock

Holmes has his nose to the ground. So swift, silent and furtive were

his movements, like those of a trained bloodhound. The US police

still use bloodhounds as working dogs to find missing people. But

British forces struggled with their expensive upkeep and no longer use

them. These hounds keep their skills honed by regularly hunting humans,

like Adrian Pace, across the country. Despite its fearsome name,

the bloodhound is not bloodthirsty. They do not hunt for the kill, just

the fun of finding people. And no artificial smells are used to help.

They are basically just hunting the skin that falls from us while we are

running, that is why we were the least amount of clothing, if

possible. Incredible. Adrian needs a decent head start, as bloodhounds

aren't sent at up to 28 mph. Horseback is the only way to keep

up. This bloodcurdling arcing means they have find Adrian's smell. These

bloodhounds are so skilful, they can follow the scent trail days after it

was laid. Well done, Sir! That was good. Here they come. Fantastic. God

forbid, if I was a fugitive, I would have given up. On the flip side, if

I was lost in the wilderness, they would be very welcome sight. I'm

sure they would, ten miles exercise every day, you could take those out

twice? You just said, 18 miles everyday. I have not done that in my

lifetime! Congratulations to Mo Farah! He broke the record set by

Steve Gorvett 36 years ago. Five years ago before little Mo was born.

Not a great year, you missed out on the Commonwealth Games? It has been

up and down, quite disappointing but we take that for granted. My health

was not right. And I struggled through the year. I would have loved

to compete at the Commonwealth Games but I was not ready and then I got

ready for the Europeans. To turn that around in two weeks was amazing

for me. And real sadness as far as New York was concerned, that

real-time point in your career? Yes, as a distance runner, I normally do

10,000 so when you train for the marathon, it takes more out of you.

You are taking time out to organise a posh bash? It is a charity ball?

You have just made that up! Bosh? It is a night of champions, for my

foundation. Do you have to run? No, there is an option. It is a

brilliant foundation. Yes, we started this in Africa but we all

involved heavily in the UK, offering athletes a scholarship so we are

working and hopefully that will go to a very good cause. Tickets are

available, if you are free on Thursday night for the bosh! I will

wear my tracksuit! Following on from your success at running, some people

have put some pictures together, interesting pictures, this is you on

the finishing line. Running from the Teletubbies? This got us thinking,

we have a challenge for both of you. You are going to play, if you do not

mind, What's Behind Mo? We have the green screen over there, guess who

is behind it. Teamwork! This is all an explanation, you must describe

what is appearing behind Mo Farah. Is he in position? Assume the

finishing position. And your face, and the arms. There you are. Paul,

if you are ready. You cannot mention it, just describe it. Here is the

clue. Na-na-na-na. I don't know. It eats people! Shark? It is a film.

Shark? That will do. What sort of shark? Move on. They are in Doctor

Who, they say ex-terminate. The third one? My Lord. She is a very

beautiful lady with dark roots, she is known for her compassion and your

good taste and her sense of humour. She is lovely. Just say Lily Savage!

You have time. Hang on. Set the scene. It hit the iceberg and sank.

It is Bishop. It means enormous. Titanic? Yes! Thank you so much for

being such a great sport. Thank you for your help. My nerves always go

doing this sort of thing. For The Love Of Dogs is on the 4th of

September. Tomorrow night, back to school. We have got David Walliams

and Catherine Tate. There they are, behind Mo Farah. We will see you

then. Thank you again. Have a lovely night. And we will see you tomorrow.

Good luck in the Great North Run! Go away if you don't want me

to speak to you like that! Most schools exclude

disruptive pupils... And I ain't putting up

with this any more.