27/09/2016 The One Show

Hello, welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker... And Alex Jones.

Promising sun, sea and a load of secrets, our guests in the studio

tonight are the crime fighting double act from ITV's new police

drama the Level. Clarke Clark and Lindsey Coulson are here.

Evening. APPLAUSE

We have seen the first episode. It's edge of your seat kind of stuff. We

look forward to talking to you about that later on. We do. First, though,

in the words of the late, great, Sir Terry Wogan, let's pause at the

thought for just a moment. 50 years ago today, a little known Irish

broadcaster first took to the air waves in a studio just behind us.

Just there. We think, yeah. At Westminster Abbey this lunch time,

many of his friends, colleagues and his listeners gathered to celebrate

a career that stretched from that day until November last year when he

closed his show for the very last time. I was lucky enough to be there

and what a wonderful, wonderful hour it was. Chris Evans and Joanna

Lumley led the tributes along with Ken Bruce, who read a beautiful poem

by WB Yeats. Though I am old with wandering through hollow lands and

hilly lands, I will find out where she has gone and kiss her lips and

take her hands and walk among long dapled grass. Ken joins us this

evening. Hello. Hi. What was the significance then of that poem to

Terry? It was a great favourite of Terry himself. Specifically chosen

by his family. I think it means a great deal to them. I was

honoured... Beautifully read. Thank you very much. Not something I'm

used to reading, poetry. Ken, what a fitting tribute it was. It was a

packed house, I have the order of service, I will treasure this. Every

element was so fitting. It was a beautiful service, quite a formal

service, because it's Westminster Abbey. You can't have an

all-singing, all-dancing show. It was really beautiful because it was

a mixture of classic hymns, but beautiful music played by the BBC

Concert Orchestra and sung by Katie Melua and Peter Gabriel, touching

moments of special music It's really hard to get the head round the fact

that he's been gone eight months. He still feels very present, especially

coming up to Children in Need. Proms in the Park was another thing. I

used to do that every year. Terry was on the stage, I'd be back stage.

This year I got there and I thought, oh, Terry's not here. It was a real

awakening again of the thought oh, he is gone really. It was quite a

sad moment. The turnout, though. 1800 people there. And the

fascinating thing to me was it wasn't just the great and the good.

It wasn't just colleagues, just the establishment, the listeners were

there, real people, honest people, they turned out in crowds. A Cabi

took me down to the abbey, "Blimey, I've never seen coaches outside."

There were coaches parked, queues right round the corner. Lovely. The

people came out to honour Terry. We were there as well. We sent our

cameras down to ask Terry's many admirers to give us Wogan in one

word. Glint. Charm. Rascal. Heart. Magic. Laster, so much laster. We

really did. Hello, I'm Gaby... Even if he was talking about something

serious, there was always a glint in his eyes. Silly, I loved him for

being silly. A silly man, a great sense of humour. Poetry, the way he

spoke English was poetic. Poetry in motion. Warmth. He gave the best big

bear hugs. Every time you worked with him, you didn't feel like you

were at work Edgy, telling rude jokes early in the morning.

Outrageous and completely in the moment. Absolutely typified that

dictum of it's very important to take your job seriously, it's a

waste of time to take yourself seriously.

LAUGHTER I'd go with twinkle. Mischief. He

sat here a few times and I'd go naughty, very naughty. There's more

tributes coming up this week on Radio 2. That's right, tonight at

10pm, last night the first part of our tribute to Terry, thank you for

being our friend. The second part is tonight on Radio 2. Join us for

that. On Friday night, BBC One, 9pm, a special tribute to Terry a, great

programme that promises to be. Later in the year, at the beginning of

November, a huge concert in aid of Children in Need. Children in Need

Rocks, fantastic names taking part Take That, Olly Murs, they're all

taking part. Ward Thomas is taking part. Terry introduced the nation to

this duo, at the beginning of their career. They're going to be playing

later as well, very fitting. Very much looking forward to that. We

will have a performance on the patio. Thank you so much, Ken.

Pleasure, thank you for asking me. We'll be talking to Noel Clarke and

Lindsey Coulson very shortly. First, you may remember back in May last

year, the Government hired the American firm Concentrix to crack

down on tax credit fraud. Well, that didn't work out so well. Hundreds of

families had their payments stopped completely and with complaints

flying in the Government has announced that Concentrix's services

are no longer required. Dan asks: What happens next?

Around 4. 5 million households cross Britain claim some form of tax

credit, a state benefit aimed at people on lower incomes. Most people

who claim tax credits need that money just to get by, but the

Government wants to crack down on fraud in the system, which it says

costs billions of pounds each year. In November 2014, HMRC hired a

private American company called Concentrix to root out fraudulent

claims. But the accuracy of that customer engagement is being called

into question by some of the those on the receiving end like single dad

Paul in Hampshire. His tax credits were stopped because Concentrix

claim he's living with his ex-partner. Paul says they've lived

apart for more than a year now, but convincing Concentrix of that is far

from easy. Trying to get hold of them is impossible. You ring HMRC at

yet more cost to be told no, it's Concentrix. What a mess. Stress

levels are through the roof. There's a lot less money coming in. If your

son comes home and ruined his new school shoes four days after going

back, all that, having to penny watch every single thing that you

spend. Single mum of two Sarah has had her tax credits stopped, again,

because Concentrix says she's living with someone. This time it's Sarah

says she's never even heard of. Couldn't tell you who this person

is, how old he is, wherein the country he's from. I just don't know

who he is. How do you feel you've been treated? It's hard enough being

a single mum, James my little one has just started nursery. I haven't

had the money to get his little rain coat. Concentrix didn't just stop

jar's tax credit -- Sarah's tax credit, they insist she owes

thousands in overpayments. The worst thing was them telling me I have a

?5,000 repayment for the last financial year. Also, looking at a

fine on top of that. Now I don't have that kind of money. If you want

to see how widespread this problem is go on social media. One online

group has 10,000 members. Their stories have a familiar ring. They

kept writing to me to tell me there was another person living in my

property. I am nearly five plus weeks now without any money - four

kids, that's pretty hard. They're hanging up the phone, trying to fob

a lot of us off. They told me my child tax credits are being stopped

because I didn't return a letter that they had sent out to me in May

this year. I haven't received such a letter. So what's the reason for all

this chaos? Alison Garnham from the Child Poverty Action Group has been

following the Government's efforts to cut fraud. She believes the

decision to contract out the work was flawed from the off. The HMRC

has outsourced some work but not supervise today properly. --

supervised it properly. Concentrix should have been operating to the

clear guidelines said out by HMRC. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened.

Clearly, something's gone wrong here. What should happen now? HMRC

needs to review these cases. They need to lock at all the cases where

a decision was made. They should re-instate the benefit, start again

and investigate properly. HMRC says it's now processing disputed cases

as quickly as possible. It has redeployed 150 staff to help resolve

outstanding issues. The contract with Concentrix will not be renewed

when it runs out next year. Concentrix told us they operated

professionally at all times and within the guidance set by HMRC.

They say they contacted claimants based on information provided by

HMRC. Adding that they've saved the taxpayer ?300 million in confirmed

tax credit fraud. Stopping fraud is clearly important, but for those

like Sarah, would find themselves on the wrong end of a decision, the

process feels anything but fair. Seems like we're not people, we're

just, you know, just little figures on a form. Thank you, Dan. Noel and

Lindsay have made their way to the sofa. They come bearing gifts. This

is rock, OK, classic rock from Brighton. It's got the name the

Level... In a forensic bag. Our names are on the back. This is all

about this new crime drama They've stitched us up here. This is on

Friday. There's a lot of crime drama out there at the moment. What takes

this to the next level! Clever! I've got to tell you, that was... Great.

APPLAUSE In all seriousness, for a start

we're in it. Good. I think that's pretty much good enough reason to

watch it. But essentially you know, you've got a show where we don't

have many shows where the cops, without giving too much away, have

to investigate themselves and you've got a great lead in Carla, a young

female lead. That's something that you don't see that often. It takes

it to the next level. It doesn't have a lot of females who are in

ditches with their throats slit or raped. It's quite refreshing not to

see that on our telly all the time. Having said that it's pretty full

on. Tell us where your characters fit in then. My character's the DCI,

she runs the investigation. She's based in Brighton. So she is the one

who runs the show basically. You're my... You're my boss, yes. He's a

detective sergeant. Yeah, Sean Gunner Martin is the name. He's a

lone wolf. Within the department we're in, he's still the guy that's

separate to everyone else. They will be belly laughing at jokes and he'll

be like, that's not funny. The boss knows me quite well. We don't want

to give too much away. But interesting, you as a cast, you were

held back from information as well, were you not? He wasn't. I didn't

know till the first three, we shot three then we had a break then shot

another three. I didn't want to know until the second lot, because I

thought, I didn't think it could be me, but I can't tell you that any

way - can I? The thing is about finding out who the main culprit.

Apparently... Sherlock, I'm a writer as well. Right, you'd worked it out.

I wasn't told per se. Did you work it out? No, I didn't. I'm not as

clever as Noel, obviously! I didn't work it out, no. I quite liked

going, could it be? I liked all that. When I did find out, you

know... Carla was the best. She would work with everyone in the

scene and then go, "I think it's you." Yeah, she did. It's quite

complex in terms of a plot. Let's give people at home a flavour of

what we can expect. This is a murder inquiry. You don't tell us things,

you could be in a lot of trouble. Maybe the national crime division

has a different way of doing things. Here, trust your colleagues. I think

there's a leak in the team. Who? I've always had your back, I always

will, no matter what you're up to. What I'm seeing is someone whose

investment in this case seems personal to the point of

self-destruction. Yoo I'm scared. -- I'm scared. What are you going to

do? Find him before he finds me. Concentrix I would watch that. I've

not seen that before and it looks pretty good. Hopefully we did not

give too much away. It is a departure for you because after

years as Carol, a character we loved in EastEnders, she was pretty

draining emotionally. I'm glad you said that. It is a departure. I

played a policewoman for ITV 12 years ago. That's one of the things

wire wanted to do it because I thought I could leave the emotional

stuff. Not him, he does not do any emotional stuff. Yes, I had a

wonderful time on Eastenders and I loved playing Carol but it was nice.

And doing single camera was nice. I really enjoyed that.

Put that in your diary. Up next, the importance of the film industry

should never be underestimated. Sidney Poitier became the first

black man to win a best Actor Oscar in the 1960s, but his success came

with the fair share of controversy. As the civil rights movement raged

in America, one actor brought the fight for equality to British

cinema. Sidney Poitier, in 1963, became the first black American to

win a Best Actor Oscar. So why was it here that he turned in one of his

most successful but most criticised performance? It told the story of an

unemployed man who takes a teaching post at a tough East End school. You

are the new land for the slaughter. His class of rebellious misfits are

not interested in learning and they set out to break his spirit. But

he's more resilient than they expect. It was based on the

autobiographical book of the same name. When he moved to post-war

London, the author found himself the victim of racism. It was an

opportunity missed. Sidney Poitier was an icon who stood for the

argument about race. What did you think about the film? It was a

disappointment. The book was about race and the atmosphere in Britain.

People trying to beat you up, none of that was in the film. That was

very disappointing. It is only at the end of term that the rebellious

students change their ways but under his guidance they've come of age

before heading into the working world. It is a young Lulu who sings

the tribute. But the character faces a final dilemma. His big decision

comes when he's offered the engineering job. It is Patricia

Routledge who makes the final bid to keep him teaching. You cannot waste

that on electronics! The part I played was that of a young teacher.

What was it like working with him? It was wonderful, I was nervous but

he put me at ease. He was a gentleman, a Prince among men. It's

a much better film than I thought it was now that I see it again. To

handle those youngsters and get some wonderful performances out of them.

They go with him and end up admiring him and loving him. It is very

moving and called me just as I talk about it. Can you understand where

the criticism has come from in terms of the film not reflecting how

certain parts of Britain felt? I think that's true but the aim of the

film showed how things could be and how they should be. Indeed, how, in

certain places, they have become. It is almost 50 years since the release

but earlier this year the Oscar ceremony drew criticism for the lack

of black nominees. Have things changed much? We've arranged a

screening for drama students from the identity School of Acting. It

was surprising seeing this film with a black man who has such a high

status. It is such a simple idea but has so many things we can learn

about, adolescence, what it means to be an adult, being someone people

feel different. It was nice to see a black male role in the 60s. I would

like see more diversity right now. It may not have broken boundaries

but for right and wrong, it painted a rare picture of racial acceptance

at a time when Britain was not tolerant. You've led tributes to

Sidney Poitier when he was awarded the fellowship. You are not just an

actor, you are a writer and producer. What would you say to

those young actors? You've been on this for a long time. I've been

writing and directing in films before it was a hash tag on a

T-shirt. It is the truth, man. Things have really moved on. You've

got global superstars like John Boyega. It is opening massive doors.

For young kids of all colours and classes, things are changing and

they need to understand they are at the forefront of the change. People

like me have done what we've done, much like what Sidney Poitier did

what he did. As was said at the end of the film, that movie did not

deliver the punch, are you under pressure to deliver things in a

particular way? I don't think so, I write what I want to write and if

people want to make it they make it. There are as many films on my laptop

that have not been made as have been made. It is not about pressure. When

I look at things I look at them with a kaleidoscope of colours because

that is how I see them. I think that's the way forward for people to

do that. You know what else does that? The level. Well done! Always

brings it back. He's very good. You are grinning there. Lindsay and all

may well be trying their hand at detective work but are a man is

giving them a run for their money. Away from the mean inner-city

streets there is drama and intrigue lurking in hedgerows. We have a lot

of - hate relationship with Bramble. Blackberries are delicious but there

covered in these nasty foreigners. There's a lot more going on in these

bushes than meets the eye. They are far more exciting than you think.

Bramble patches provide a great source of food and shelter, a

setting for an unseen world of wildlife in the middle of our

cities. We want to show the people of Bristol what really goes on

behind the prickly fortresses they passed by everyday so we've brought

down our cameraman with some gadgets to film the animals day and night.

How are we going to film life in a bramble patch? It has not been a

very nice place to be in. I've got scratched to bits. We came up with

this solution which allows us to fly the camera into the bush. It makes

life a little bit easier. Yes. Here we go. Into the Bramble. We are on a

mission to persuade the locals that this is wildlife haven. Our cameras

have already spotted snails and birds but what animals do these

passers-by think could be in here? Wolves? I hope not! Those are some

high expectations. But they are not too far from the truth. We've also

raked specialist camera traps at night to capture images of the more

elusive visitors. It is a relative of the Wolf, this fox is feasting on

fruit outside the bush and there are other animals as well, a mouse and

rabbit, seeking protection in the forums. Wild rabbits living in the

city. Brambles are fast growers, gaining eight centimetres a day. New

stems Tate Britain as they reach the ground, creating a protective

prickly barrier for the smaller species that call the patch their

home. We are using macro lenses to delve even deeper into this world.

This bug senses the environment with its antenna. It is on the search for

a tasty plant sap. It seems impossible for this snail to crawl

on these stems but its fruit is coated in a thick slime that let

that pass over even the sharpest of foreign is. Blackberry fruit is a

favourite of this fly. You normally don't get to see bees colours. Too

busy flicking them away. You don't actually appreciate what's around

you. Spiders love ramble patches. The stems give them lots of places

to spend their webs to catch unsuspecting insects and protect

their eggs. How many spiders do you think are in this? 10,000? That is a

fair estimate. I reckon there is probably nearer to half a million. A

place like this is actually ideal for animals. It has been brilliant

to see such a hive of activity in one small role of Bramble. Insects,

birds, mammals, all call it their home. Spare a thought for the myriad

of creatures that live their busy lives beyond The Hawthorns.

Thank you for that effort to get those wonderful shots. That was a

wonderful film. That is it for today. Thank you for our guests, Ken

Bruce, Lindsay, Noel Clarke, and on tomorrow's sure, we're heading back

to the boardroom. Lord Alan Sugar will be here. Two players out, it is

a Ward Thomas with cartwheels. I give, I give,

I give, you never take I bend, I bend, I bend,

so we won't break I've been doing cartwheels

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been running circles Always getting nowhere Putting

on a show but you won't see I've been doing cartwheels I've

been doing cartwheels After everything I've done

You still run and disappear Maybe all I've got is hoping I can

show you how it feels I've been doing cartwheels

Anything to save us Always getting nowhere

been running circles Putting

on a show but you won't see I've been doing cartwheels

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