28/09/2016 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker And Alex Jones. We

will start tonight with an interesting version of The

Apprentice that you can see online. A clip is posted with subtitles

saying what everyone is thinking. They call it honest subtitles. It's

kind of like this. We were thinking about ?3.10. That would be lower

than we would normally talk about for our You seem firm groups. With

your prices. I will try my luck, again. So, with all of that in mind,

let's welcome, shall we, the Lord of the Boardroom, it's Lord Alan Sugar.

APPLAUSE. Nice to see you. Yes, absolutely. It's been a while, Lord

Sugar, since you were here last. Yes. Happy to be back? Please to be

back to inform you about the new series. That's very good. We take it

that you don't need subtitles in your boardroom you get the measure

of people quite quickly, don't you I hope to. I try to. It's a frequently

asked question by people that say - when you first see these people for

the first time, after you start talking to them, do you recognise

who the winner is going to be? Do you want to know the answer to that?

It's no. No. It's definitely not. What is fascinating is that as we go

week-by-week you have people that you think, wow, she's great. Or,

he's great, whatever. They are not so great. He is not so great. They

come from behind. Yeah. As last year's did. Which we will talk about

later on. Yes. You are used to hiring and firing and loves his

football. Can we talk about Sam Allardyce and what your thoughts are

after 67 days in the job. Would you have fired him? I don't know. I

don't know. You put me on-the-spot here. Is there another subtitle.

Sorry. What I'm really thinking. You horrible person for asking me that

question. Sorry. I thought you would have been talking about it all day

long. I don't know the details of it. You know, you are guided these

days by what you read in the papers or what is on the nuts news and what

he allegedly done. He himself is upset for falling for the sting.

Entrapment he called it. Then again, it was induced by possibly a fee,

wasn't he? Why he done it, I don't know. The FA, a bit like the BBC,

very politically correct, as you know, that's why... Yes. That's why

I have to be careful not to use any expletives on the programme. Very

good. They had none no alternative but to do something about, it I

suppose. Who knows. One thing I can be sure of, if he's any good as a

manager at all, he'll get a job again in football because,

basically, the football industry don't care. The fans don't care

whatever he's done, really. Short of stabbing someone with a knife or

slitting someone's throat, you can virtually do anything in football.

They don't care. They get on with it. He's a great manager. He's a

great manager. No subtitles required.

Online security has been hitting the headlines recently.

Pippa Middleton had her photos stolen online and it was also

revealed that millions of Yahoo users had their details stolen

in one of the largest cyber- security breaches in history.

We're used to protecting ourselves with passwords,

Alex Riley has enlisted The One Show Pensioners to find out.

Hello. Today, we are actually inside the internet. As you can see, it's

an amazing virtual space with data traversing the globe. But to use it,

you need loads of online passwords that are impossible to remember.

What's the password? Try 123456. OK. Nope. Surfing the internet with me

today, the One Show pensioners. Their challenge - to test out the

new technology that aims to ballish passwords forever! Must be

broadband. It's said that more than half of us use the same online

password nor everything. The number one most popular is - password.

Closely followed by 123456. You are never going to guess what number

three is? Experts reckon these passwords could be obsolete. What's

going to replace them? In the real world pensioner Norah has enlisted

her friend Lindsey to test a telephone banking system that uses

voice recognition instead of passwords. I would like to check the

balance on my account. Frank and Annie Parker give ire Russ

recognition a go. Couldn't recognise you. Now these two get to grips with

a computer that recognises your face. Right, here goes Now you have

nothing. Turned it off. It's a new tablet with something called

Windows, Hello. I don't think we are getting far with this very fast.

Look directly at the screen. First it scans your face. Can't make you

look any more handsome, you know. You have to try. Get it right and it

will sign you in without a password. Getting ready. Looking for you. It

worked. In future it's claimed our faces will be all we need to do all

sorts online, like shopping and paying How did you bills. Find the

process of put it on and using it? Very, very gooned very I couldn't

believe quick. How quick it was. You are sat in front thinking it will be

a long process. It will have to take this measurement, but we were in.

Norah is trailing a voice recognition system. Could I check

the balance on my account, please. Yes, certainly. Let me help you with

that. Could I have your sort code and account number. Barclays

captured her voice over several earlier calls. It's time to put it

to her test. She needs her account number, that is it. You have

successfully passed through our voice security. Thank you very much

for that. Thank you so much. Can it be cheated? Norah's pal Lindsey, is

going to try to impersonate her. My name is Mrs Norah... I'm taking a

round-the-world cruise. I wonder if I'll have enough for the spending

money. Will Lindsey be able to empty Nora's account. It looks like her

money is safe. It's going back to the old fashioned way of banking,

which I loved. You used to go into your branch. You would speak to

somebody. It was lovely. You could chat away. Similarly, you can do it

with this method of banking. You chat away. Talk about your holidays.

Whilst you are doing that, your voice is being processed through.

It's wonderful. Frank and Annie are trying a new mobile which let's you

log on with your eyeballs. Set up PIN, 1234. I thought you made it

up... If they can stop arguing. Click personalisation. It is. It's

called iris scanning and uses your eye as unique pattern so you can do

away with key codes and purchase apps. Make sure both eyes are

visible on the screen. Learning what you look like. Don't move. Move

closer. Are it recognise Annie's eye's. It just went in. Would you

feel confident that it would be secure? Absolutely. And easy enough

to use? Well, yes, you don't have to remember numbers. It is secure

enough, certainly, but it is very limited. You cannot always get the

necessary signal. Sometimes Frank has to go to the bottom of the

garden to get a signal. Signal allowing it's a thumbs up for

getting rid of passwords. What is crooks find a way of beating the

system. Changing passwords is easy, changing our voice, face or eyeballs

won't be as simple. No. It is frustrating remembering all those

passwords. Do you often go for yourefired123? It's the Bain of my

life, passwords, they really are. I've got a pet password. Right. Pet

password? My main one that I use a lot. Yes. I won't tell you what it

is. It's not coming up on the screen there! When I go to a new vendor or

a new service or new something like that, whatever it is, it says - put

your password in. They won't accept that, they want an upper case,

slash, number, something else. You have to think up something else. Six

months down-the-line you can't remember which one you used. You put

your first one in. It says - wrong password. I will use the other one.

Put that in. Wrong password. You try it again and they block you

completely. You have had it. You have to get on the phone to some

brain dead for three hours to try to get you back online, again. You

should join that group. It would be brilliant to have you filming. No,

honestly. What I do, seriously, honestly now, maybe because I'm a

bit old now, is that I write all my passwords down on the back of my

hard copy diary. I don't do the diary on the phone and all that

stuff. I have a diary. On the first page I've got password nor Netflix,

password for this... I really hope you don't lose that diary. They

wouldn't understand it's all in code. I'm not that stupid! I might

be old, but not that stupid. Lord Sugar we are delighted that the new

series of The Apprentice. It's around the corner. We can't wait,

can we? We are very excited about it. Last year it was one by Joseph

Valente. We've sent him back to the school

he was once expelled from to

inspire a new generation. Last year, I beat all the odds when

this happened to me. Joseph, you're going to be

my business partner. Lord Sugar's decision

to make me his apprentice But it's been a long journey and one

that didn't have the best of starts. I grew up here in Peterborough

with my mum, dad and older sister. We weren't rich by any means

and by the time I was a teenager So the plan was - school,

education and a millionaire So this used to be Stanground

College. It was a little bit rough and ready

but now it's a new school, it's got a new name,

Stanground Academy. I was a pupil here

from 2001 to 2005. In fact, I was expelled, so I'm

a bit nervous about coming back. Wow, this is so much more different

than the old Stanground College. Growing up, I had a lot

going on at home. When I was 13 years of age, my dad

left and it was a very rocky time. Coming to school made it even harder

because I found it very difficult I used to mess about and I used

to disrupt the lessons and disrupt One of the teachers I used to lock

horns with was Mr Scarrott. I remember him as being a quiet lad

who needed quite a bit of encouragement to get on with his

work and get himself focused. But, ultimately, I was expelled

from Stanground and at that moment in time I felt that the world

was coming to an end. I was only 15 years of age,

I didn't really have many options. However, what I wasn't

was a quitter. Luckily, a local plumber,

called Dan Boardman, took a chance on me

and showed me the ropes of my trade. In fact, I was his apprentice before

I was Lord Sugar's apprentice. I took a bit of a gamble,

if I'm being honest. But you could see from the early age

that you had the right mentality I really appreciate

everything you did for me. You got me started on my plumbing

journey. Getting into plumbing may have

given me the calling that But it was still tough

with limited education. I started to realise that maybe

I had missed out by not listening And then, when I was 22,

my mum bought me the book that I read it from cover to cover,

three weeks, relentlessly. I took out a loan for ?15,000

and started my own business. I was able to secure two

vital contracts with two And it is this small company that

billionaire, Lord Sugar, Not bad for a kid expelled

from school. And now I'm going to talk to some

of the students at my old school. Hopefully, I can pass on some

of the lessons that will help them in their lives,

even if it's not to make the same What would do is you start

and you create something. You then need to maintain it

and then continue to grow. A lot of young people think

and they rely on parents, But, if I'm honest with you,

you all are quite young at the moment, but it

does start with you. But there was one question

at the front of the students' minds. What did your parents say

when you got kicked out from school? I remember my mum saying to me,

what are you going to do now? I'm really, really

disappointed in you. I turned to my mum that day

and I looked at her and I said to her, don't worry, mum,

I'm going to be successful. I don't quite know how I'm

going to do it, but I'm And life has got a strange way

of working out for you. But, to be honest with you,

after winning The Apprentice and doing what I'm doing,

that changed quite quickly because now I want to become

a billionaire by the time I'm 40, How is it going? It's going very

well. All the apprentices, when it kicks off, they come into my

mentoring zone. It's not just me, but a lot of accountants and people

like that jump on them, so to speak. It's quite common, when you start a

new business, in the first couple of months or so, there's a lot of

teething problems. It's been the same for all the other winners. He's

going to be all right, he's doing OK. As are all the other winners and

business partners. You have 18 brand-new ones here. Let's talk

about Jessica Minet. She is a bit manic, isn't she? She compares

herself to Jim Carey, which is a bit bizarre. I think underneath it's a

bit of an act or what do you think? There are 18 candidates. When I

first met her, and you will see in the first episode, she gets a bit

excited, and that's basically because she's nervous. I don't know

why one would be nervous sitting in front of me! I can't for the life of

me understand it, if you've just met me for the first time, why should

they be nervous? But some people are very strange, in how they react, the

nervousness. Some just sit there dead quiet and others do what she

does. She is a little bit highly strung, but she's all right, she'd

be good. There is a candidate who likes to wear mascara and that their

eyelashes at you. This is Dillon. He compares himself to a diamond,

sparkles when he walks into a room but you can cut yourself on him.

Would the batted eyelashes work on you? Not with him, maybe ten or 15

years ago that it was one of the women, but not Dillon, bless him! He

is a nice chap, a very nice chap and I think perhaps he runs himself down

a little bit, talking about cutting people as a diamond, I don't think

he means it. To me, I love that moment at the start of the programme

when they all come up with what they compare themselves to. The

catchphrases. Let's take a look at this week's

task of the first one. Starting price? I'd be thinking

about 250. 300 for the set. Is that the deal? Brilliant. Cash? I don't

have the authority to give you the cash today, I'd have to speak to

head office and we'd go back to your lot... If you can't get the cash

today, the item is not sold. Anyway? There's not unafraid. Unfortunate.

Unfortunate! I love that, the sausage King. Cumberland sausages he

makes, very good. How does this fit into your life? What time do have to

start of the morning to do all of this? This is a period of time when

we film the thing, and that's quite an intense period throughout the 12

weeks of filming. To be fair, I'm not there all de long every week. Or

Karen and Claude R. But I think it's after the show, a lot of people

underestimate what goes on there but as far as the BBC and everyone else

is concerned, the entertainment is over after episode 12, that person

is the winner, that person's winner, that's it. Then the real work

starts. Take for example Joseph. So what we do is we meet with them once

a month. We have a board meeting, basically. We have a board meeting

once a month with all the winners, together with my team of people and

we go through and monitor what they are up to. Every so often they call

on Lord Sugar, would you mind sending an e-mail to one of my

customers and tell them to get lost or... And you do. Get the heavy mob

in. We can see how all 18 candidates get on in the new series of The

Apprentice, next Wednesday at nine o'clock on BBC One.

Now, Lord Sugar's former colleague, Margaret Mountford, recently

confessed that she refused to have her hair shampooed

by someone with tattoos at a salon and says they hamper a young

I'm not sure that was the footage from the incident there!

Recent research has shown that employers could be missing out

on talented workers by not employing people with tattoos.

Angellica's has been to get under the skin of the issue.

Are people still turned off by tattoos? I enlisted the help of some

friends to see what the public and employers really think.

Certainly in some professions, it probably wouldn't come across

professional. But, as I waste my children, don't judge a book by its

cover. Do you think it is inappropriate in some jobs, to have

tattoos? May be nursery teaching, but it depends on your view of

tattoos. Some children get tattooed transfers. May be a doctor or

dentist. I have attached to myself but I think it might be off-putting.

Is there any profession where you think it is not appropriate? Medical

profession. If your doctor had tattoos on your hand, would you be

inclined to ask for someone else? No, it's OK if they are covered up.

How would you feel about employees with tattoos? I don't mind at all,

if they can do the job, it's fine. I have staff here with tattoos. What's

interesting is you have your tattoos covered up. Was that a conscious

decision? I'm in a customer facing role, they would want to speak to

someone about their financial affairs with tattoos all over their

body, maybe they wouldn't trust my decision. I have no problem at all

with them. I think they bring out people's personalities. Do you have

tattoos? Yes. LAUGHTER What's so funny? Where are they?

That would be telling! It's never really been a problem. Does it come

into your mind, thinking maybe if you have more tattoos it might

affect where you work in the future? For me, I want to work in places

where tattoos are acceptable and OK. The police. Today accepting tattoos

and I think that says a lot. It was quite shocking to see you have this

role and you have tattoos all over your arms. Was a problem when you

went to get your job? No, it wasn't a problem, because what I've got is

nothing offensive. It's just something personal to me, but it's

not upsetting or offending anyone. Sometimes you get a few cases where

they look at your bit funny, especially the older generation.

James has a tattooed on his neck, do you think that would have been a

problem? Maybe, but at the first time I've always been curious to

know what it feels like on the neck. So you'd still possibly have one in

the job you are in? If I thought I could get away with that.

Lucy is with us now. We heard what the viewers thought, what do the

experts say? Let's start with some tatts stats. 40% of UK households

now contains a man with a tattooed. A huge number and they are likely to

be very young. Let's call them millennial 's. Anyone in your

household, Lord Sugar? No. Millennial 's all people with

tattoos question Doctor Frandsen Andrews has done some very

interesting research. He calls this growing number, he says there is a

demographic tidal rate. Instead of doing research as people normally

do, saying why don't people like employing people with tattoos, he

has looked at it from the other side. He asks, is there an advantage

to some businesses for employing people with visible body art? And

the answer is, yes there is. There is logic here, stay with me. There

is logic here. We know we like to buy from people who look like us. We

have a growing audience of millennial 's, they are fine with

tattoos, they like to be served in clubs and restaurants by people who

have tattoos and there's also a slight edginess for some brands who

like to be countercultural. One pub chain the doctor spoke to reward

their staff and incentivise them by paying for tattoos if they do really

well. The doctor says in 20 years' time arguing about this will be as

old hat as arguing about women wearing trousers. Really?

Fascinating, absolutely fascinating! You've made my day. LAUGHTER

I am so pleased I'm informed... Who has come up with all of this? Doctor

Timmy. Does he do the flu and things like that, sore throats and all

that? In a creative environment, they add to character, would you

ever employ anyone with a visual tattoo? One has to be very careful

about saying why you will all want employers on. The fact is, if

someone came into my office as the receptionist of one of my tower

blocks to be sitting in the reception, in a beautiful marble

place in her whole face is tattooed from top to bottom, you could

imagine, I would have to say... Psychologically, one of your little

punch lines, what are you thinking? Would you come back next week and we

will think about it! Men, for example, to come to work, they had

suits on so they are covered up. Ladies... I don't know. We will

leave it there. We will. I can't comment! We know that you love the

Bake Off and this week is botanical week. They will have to use edible

flowers in their cakes. But before you follow suit and head

out to the garden to take a spoon to your herbaceous borders -

here's Ricky. Sales of sieves and demands for

double cream can shoot up when the great British break off is on. It's

not the first time a TV programme has influenced what we buy in a

supermarket. First of all I'm going to give them

some seasoning... The power of cookery shows to shape

our buying habits took off with Delia Smith. The Delia effect is

sparking many ingredients buying boom, including a rise of exiles of

10%. We do find a real effect of celebrities featuring a specific

ingredient, product or recipe. Sales shoot up. Whether that is Jamie or

Nigella with goose fat and potatoes, or Delia and cranberries. Customers

are inspired by the man want to buy them install. How instant can it be?

Absolutely instant. On a Wednesday evening between 7-9 we have the

highest number of customers viewing our website for bakery ingredients.

That obviously is when The Great British Bake Off is on. Last summer

after the biscuit episode, Waitrose reported sales of flaked or ground

almonds almost doubled and crystallised ginger trebled. What

will the star Bakers star ingredient be this year? Actually, you don't

need to come in here at all. One of the most popular ingredients can be

found right here in your garden. Tonight's episode has a botanical

theme so I'm wondering what edible flowers are OK to cook with. Jan has

been blowing nasturtiums in Devon for 15 years. The nasturtium is

probably the easiest and most versatile of all of the edible

flowers to grow. The minute you treat a moustache and the more

flowers you get. If you had them in less fertile soil, you would end up

with a lot more flowers and a lot less leaves. If you're not a great

gardener, a great one to grow? Perfect. And perfect in a pot on the

patio. They self seed readily, so once you've grown them once, you

will have them in your garden the next year, the perfect plant. It's

great anyone can grow them, but how good are they to eat? The great

thing about it is you can eat pretty much all parts of the flowers. The

flowers have a lovely spicy rocket like flavour. Janet uses the flowers

to make a cordial and vinegar. The flowers and seeds to make some bread

and a colourful salad. So what are we going to do next? Now we are

going to make some pesto. We start by dropping a bit of the garlic. A

big handful of nasturtium leaves and flowers. Now, I love a good pesto

but I can't believe anything can beat basil is the key ingredient. So

will Jan persuade me? Very, very, very good. That pesto is so lovely.

Peppery and flowery. It's just so nice, so different, why would you

use Basil? Cheers! Will nasturtiums be the next biggest

thing in baking? We will have to wait and see but it is fair to see

the Ricky effect hasn't got as much poll as the Bake Off perfect but it

gets the thumbs up from me. Lovely! We hope you enjoy tonight's Bake Off

episode. That is all we have time for. Thank you as well to launch

about. ALEX Tomorrow The One Show

continues with Dara O'Briain.