29/09/2016 The One Show

Hello, and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.

As the host of Robot Wars, our guest this evening deserves a proper,

This bot was manufactured in County Wicklow, Ireland.

Height - 195 centimetres with his hair, and exactly

Special weapon - sardonic Irish wit and ability to speak

APPLAUSE Hi, Dara, good to see you. Nice to

see you. Fine fact that, Dara. I was scared of myself! Mighty fighting

machine, I must say. I was in here on Monday, and our guest said she

thoroughly enjoyed making the series but couldn't confirm if there was

going to be a second series. Can you shed any light? I could confirm,

but, you know, I will twinkle at you in the way that would talk... It did

do very well, didn't it? People really got into it, it did extremely

well. If you have any great ideas for robots, why not write it out and

who knows? They want more exciting robots. Fingers crossed, but we

can't say. We have thought about it. Marty Jopson, head of hydraulics,...

That sounds like it is going to be an amazing robot! Are we in, Dara?

You're in! We need cannon fodder, we always need a bad robot at the

start. Just show to how good the good robots are. It is great to hear

the night. -- it is good you're here tonight.

Following a spate of incidents across the UK, Polish people living

in Britain are becoming increasingly concerned about their

safety and wellbeing. Andy Kershaw has been to Leeds

to see how the Polish community there is feeling.

On this street recently, a large gang of youths left a Polish man

seriously injured in what police are treating as a racist attack. It is

not just a one-off. The Polish Embassy says it has dealt with 27

xenophobic incidents in recent months, ten of those in the North of

England. They are only the ones that have been reported to the embassy.

So, what is it with all this anti-Polish and Austin is? I was

called... -- nasty mess. Now, half the shops are Polish. It's better if

you don't go out in the evening. It's better, really. Are you scared

of going out at night? You. -- yes. Martin is keen to take the heat out

of the situation here in Leeds. I love those, Polish gherkins. He is

one of the 800,000 polls who have come to Britain in the past 12

years. When did you come here, Martin? I came to England in 2004.

Why did you come? Well, there was work, and there was opportunities.

Have you noticed that attitudes have changed more recently towards the

Poles? Amongst the Polish community, there is fear about this. Apparently

there is anger growing as well. Violence is not limited to Leeds. In

Harlow in Essex, this man died after being attacked in the street. The

Polish community there staged a silent demonstration, only for a

further attack on two of the Poles to be reported to the police that

very night. Two Polish police officers have since flown from

Warsaw to patrol Harlow Street in a bid to lower the temperature. Here

in the heart of the Polish community in Leeds, I'm keen to hear from

locals and Poles alike. Anything happened, and nobody even saw it. It

has become an issue since the referendum? Gas. There is animosity

towards jobs. They are prepared to work? Yes. Have you noticed hostile

attitudes towards the Poles have increased since the referendum? Yes,

it has. The right to say, what are you doing here, why don't you go

back? I told my family, there is no jobs of going back home after 9pm.

You advise them to stay off the street? Yes, you never know. At the

Polish Catholic centre, there is a special meeting to discuss the rise

in hate crime against Polish people. It has just gone 7pm and it is

standing room only. Police, councillors and local people are

here to listen and to try and ensure the Polish neighbours that the

recent hostility is a minority view. There are thousands of people in

Harlow who are welcoming, tolerant, and wanting you to be there. Next,

the audience gets a chance to ask some questions. Since Brexit, two of

my kids faced for the first time a hate crime. They have been told,

like, we hate polish people, they take jobs from our parents. The

problem starts from young people. Do you have any plan to help us?

Talking about prevention, it has to start in families, and it has to

start in schools, and it can't start soon enough. What can I do at night,

somebody breaks into my house? Without breaking the law?

Afterwards, I catch up with the mum whose kids have been told to go back

home by children at the school. Polish people in Leeds now scared?

I'm not scared, I just feel sorry, and I'm upset that, you know, we

came to this country to have a better life. And we picked this

country, we chose to do that, and now we start to think that it wasn't

a good choice. In meeting is never going to solve everything, but this

Chief Superintendent hopes it can let people know they are not alone.

The police and the local council and our partners take very, very

seriously and anyways hate incident or crime. I would appeal to anybody

who is sustaining that kind of issue to get in touch with us. The one

thing that has come up time and time again today during our filming is

the word Brexit. Certainly, Polish people here in Leeds feel that the

Vote Leave European Union back gave racists a licence to hate. And what

has come out of this meeting tonight is that the Polish people have gone

away feeling reassured that there are people who do care and are

prepared to listen. STUDIO: Thank you very much to Andy.

Lucy is here now. Let's start by defining a hate crime. Good idea.

There is a common definition, which has been agreed by the National

police Chief counsel, and the Crown Prosecution Service. That is that a

hate crime which is any criminal offence which is perceived by the

victim or another person, I will come back to that, because that is

important, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice. That can be

based on race or ethnicity, religion or belief, sexual orientation,

transgender identity. That would constitute a hate crime. This is

what we call a self defined crime. The victim of a witness or both must

perceive it to be a hate crime for it to be so, if that makes sense. We

heard in the film that that the police and the council are taking

this very seriously. As far as penalties are concerned, what is

happening with regards to punishment? Well, it will be

prosecuted as a standard offence. Say it was a public order offence,

somebody had thrown a brick through a window, that would be prosecuted

in court as a public order offence. If it was proved that there was a

hate crime element, that would be attached as a prefix. If it was

racially aggravated, it would be a racially aggravated public order

offence. There would be an uplift in the penalty. That is how it would

work". Now, this is an underreported crime. It has to be said, very few

of these go to trial. The ones that do go to trial, over 80% or actually

prosecuted, which is a very high amount. That's where we are at.

After the EU referendum, we did do an item like this and said that hate

crimes had spiked. What is the situation now? That's correct. If

you take a week before the EU referendum through to the end of

August, there were 3500 more reports of hate crime than they're worth of

the same time last year. -- found there were. That was a spike, so

much so that the police began to publish weekly figures. We are now

at the state when the level of reported hate crimes has decreased,

and it is what we might call above normal, just slightly above normal,

if that makes sense. And the police have stopped doing weekly

statistics. So it has returned to the level it was before. But the

police are at pains to point out that it is still a high priority and

it is still, despite that spike, and reported crime. Dara, you were

saying to me that you are Irish, and when you hear stories like that

might we are a generation and a half from when we were regarded as

foreign in this country. There were signed out side pubs saying no

Blacks, no dogs, no Irish. We are aware of this, because we still are

foreign when we come into your country, but now we hosted your

robot fighting shows and you are used to Irish people! The Poles are

similar, coming from a Catholic country, they are working in

construction work here, they send over young immigrants who wish to

work, which the Irish did generations ago. There is a general

disdain towards that kind of crime. Thank you. We're going onto a

subject which is very close to your heart, Dara. Saving Britain's

Theatre heritage. Every year, a list of historic theatre is in urgent

need of restoration is published by the beard is trust. We will hear the

story of one of them right now. This is the Palace Theatre in Plymouth.

I'm Ian Wren. For many years, I've walked along this street and gone

past this amazing theatre. And wondered, why is it being allowed to

fall into disrepair? It really has to be saved. This is the new Palace

Theatre in Plymouth, which was opened in 1898.

It is an architectural gem, which, amazingly, has survived. I'm Patsy

Willis. My father was William Willis, who was the general manager

of the Palace Theatre here from 1946 until 1956. The biggest act that was

here, although there were many, was probably Laurel and Hardy, who came

here in 1954. Unfortunately, they only managed to do one performance,

I think, because Oliver Hardy was then taken ill with a mild heart

attack. My father wrote a very nice letter to stand moral, and he got a

very nice letter back. -- to Stan Laurel. All of the great names had

been here. Harry Houdini performed on the stage. We are told that he

escaped from a box which had been made by the men from the local

shipyard in as little as 12 minutes. You can see as you stand here in

front of the stage how magnificent the original building was. The

extraordinary decoration around the front of the circle, looking up into

the gods. And of course, that magnificent dome at the top. You can

see very clearly the nautical theme of the theatre, with the front of

that box representing the stern of a ship. I have wonderful memories of

this place from my early childhood. It was always a very magical place

to be. Particularly the tunnel down stairs leading into the stalls,

which was dazzling, and had wonderful red carpets and golden

walls. It was like walking into fairyland, it was a very, very

special place. It's sad to see it in this state. But I'm hopeful that it

will eventually get back to how it was originally, which would be

fantastic. The beauty of this theatre is that it is recoverable.

Even though it's gone through so many transformations, it's been a

nightclub, it's been a bingo hall, there is still the original

magnificent theatre underneath. My name is Mark is, I'm the director

of music. I'm part of the team that is striving to get the building up

and running again -- my name is Marcus. We are aiming to create a

space which is multifunctional and the community can use it. We have

put together a choir, our focus is to perform concerts to raise funds

for this building. For me as a musician, the most

attractive and appealing feature of this building is the acoustics as

muck they are sublime will stop probably better than anywhere else

in the city. Aubel the acoustics are sublime.

It's going to take years to get this building to where we needed to be.

But I think for the sake of the community and the locals and the

building that is so steeped in history, it is crucial that we bring

this building to life. we love an old theatre, don't we?

We're big fans. Everyone does, they are beautiful buildings, you can

hear the stories coming off the walls, they are rooms in which Harry

Houdini played, Charlie Chaplin, any number of these up and down the

country. The number of theatres in the country is only in the hundreds

really, but the reason the body I'm involved in... I'm involved in the

Theatres Trust. In 1914-1976 Britain lost 800 theatres. 800? This was to

step into the process, try to advise, check the viability, then to

coordinate with local groups who wanted to campaign, like those

people you saw, to protect the theatres in their environment. Every

year the Theatres Trust publishes a list of theatres that risk register.

It grades in terms of beauty of the building, importance to the

community, and its imminent danger. Thereafter 86 theatres on this

register, is there a favourite for you? This covers everything from the

end of peer theatres to mobile theatres, Brighton hippodrome is a

good example of one sitting at the top for the past few years, built in

1897, used to be a circus theatre, now a boarded-up ruin of a building.

Huge dome, gorgeous building, but the community group there has now,

because a viability study showed it could still work, there was no need

to break them down into small screen cinemas and lose that big

auditorium... Now the local group have raised fundraising from the

national lottery, from the coastal communities fund, so that, we could

possibly restore that. That is the key, the business side, that's the

reason a lot of them have been closing. A lot of them close a long

time ago as well. They became nightclubs or bingo halls, because

bingo halls, at the time the theatre was forced to be viable financially,

the facade... They put a facade around it. When the bingo craze died

down, the theatre building is still there when you take down the facade.

If you lose the building it's gone forever and some of these are

astonishingly good. A lot of them have come back from those uses,

disappeared for 50-60 years then the community and ordered them back,

efforts were made, they were turned back into use. Is there one success

story? The one I thought was working... Verraszto I did I played

in the Dunfermline Alhambra, a 1920s theatre that became a cinema, which

became a bingo hall. For about 60 years wasn't operating as a theatre.

In 2008 they started a campaign to get it going again. They've got the

1930s Lyon side that says Alhambra. In the middle of Dunfermline. The

blood Dunfermline don't have to cross the Firth of Forth over the

Forth Bridge, to get to Edinburgh to see shows, shows come to them

because they've got this fantastic room that they've brought back to

life. Fantastic. You've got developers knocking on the door

because the argument of needing housing and all of that. It's

perfectly fine... Heritage for its own sake, how dare you change these

things... Just the potential of this room remains. These aren't wrecks,

we're not saying... These buildings that can be saved. People would say,

but for development, the Dudley hippodrome, with a huge community,

was going to be flattered for a car park at one stage, then people

stepped in. We've got 36 on the register, not all have community

groups. Some would benefit from having some community work. Some

have fantastic groups in Bradford, Burnley, working really really hard

to save their local theatre. A full list... Breaks your heart. A full

list can be found on our website. Yesterday we had Dara's old mate in

here, Lord Sugar. It's like it's the apprentice week. We've got Nick

Hewer now. We set him a tricky PR challenge that got him buzzing. Have

a look. I'm on a mission to use my

experience from a career in marketing and PR to attempt a

rebranding campaign for some of our least popular wildlife. Today's

subject, the wasp. I'm not actually really sure what wasps do. The first

thing I think of when I think of a wasp is pain, sharp pain. I don't

like wasps, to be honest, I get stung every other year. Wasps

definitely have an image problem. When a bee buzzes into your space,

what is your reaction? Don't hurt it! If a wasp comes near, we say

kill it, kill it fast. The bee has had a charmed life, but now it's

time to fight the wasp's corner. To find out why wasps are valuable to

us I've come to meet one of the UK's leading wasp experts, Doctor Sumner.

This is the nest of a yellow jacket wasp, isn't it astonishing? It's

made of paper, they collect bark from a tree, then chew it up into a

ball and smooth it out with their mandibles to produce this really

fine paper. They are incredible origami masters. It's all very

interesting but what has it done for us? Each individual will have been

doing us a service by controlling the insect pests around us. If it's

that plague tomato plants, caterpillars that we'll be eating

your lettuce leaves, because that is what they feed to their brood. OK, a

world without wasps would mean plagues of pests. How do I convince

the wider public to love the wasp? I want to make a short ad, but

capturing viewer attention is hard. Making sure they remember the ad is

even harder. I think we need something creative and unexpected. A

surprise ending that will have lasting impact and will change

people's perceptions. The wasps papermaking skills have given me an

idea that will involve origami expert Tony O'Hare. To put the

commercial together I've enlisted the help of editor Steve White. The

public perception is they are a nuisance, and they sting you. So

we've got to have some sort of softer approach. I've received

footage from the studio. We shot some extreme close-ups, you see what

amazingly engineered creatures they are. Yes. But when you blow them up,

really magnify them, they actually... Your intensifying the

fear factor. I find those rather frightening actually. Sure, we've

got to show what it is, but I don't think we should linger on it. All

you're doing is damaging your argument that is going to come later

on. We need something else. I'm hoping the answer is the origami. I

think we've got here is something rather intriguing. I think it'll

capture the imagination curiosity, rather. We rammed across the

benefits, the value of the wasp. This is a piece of genius. Now it's

time to show the public the finished film.

Has our film convinced the public? I didn't know that. After seeing this

I definitely feel more positive about them but it depends on the

next attack. Whether this positive feeling continues or not. They still

sting but they are more useful than I thought. They obviously do have a

useful purpose but I think they have bad press. I'm happy with that

response. Have I managed to change your mind? I hope so.

They are about a six out of ten, rather than two. You can't deny they

are beautiful to look at but whether or not you want them crawling on

your dinner outside is another matter. Nick Hewer is quite

persuasive and we hear you have the same skills because you won a

debating competition in the 90s. Yes, yeah I did, yeah. We dug up

this photo of you. LAUGHTER That's... What do you remember of

that trip? It was a hell of a trip. Marcus, me and Bernard were winners

of the national debating Championships in Ireland as

students. That was us flying to America, they flew us to a load of

American universities. We won the final, then the prize was we went to

America, a series of American universities, to debate against

their debating teams. On the same motion six times in a row so you can

imagine by the six the debate we pretty much knew what they were

going to say. We would stand up first and say, they are going to

tell you this... They'd be going, how do you know that? We won them

all. Shall we put Dara's skills to the test? We'll put a series of

arguments that, you have to go with them. Whether I find them personally

Republic or difficult? We'll find out in a moment. Bald people aren't

trustworthy. The Grantham if you look around, there is probably a

bald repairs and near you right now, look them in the eyes, do you trust

them, really? What is with female hair, why do they choose to do that?

It's inherently wrong. We were meant to have hair yet these people, these

bald people choose not to have hair. Why? They'll never tell us, they

never tell us why they don't want us to have hair. Very good. Post office

queues are brilliant. They are, they are brilliant. I'm doing this down

the lens as if I'm convincing them. I'm happy to go door-to-door on this

because we live in a fragmented society. And often the only time we

need people in our community is in a post office queue. It's good just to

have that quiet time to finally just... OK. The last one, it's good

to talk in theatres. Of course it is. Because we live in a fragmented

society. LAUGHTER Is good to these theatres, these

recently renovated theatres, did we need them? I think we needed a car

park myself. There is the klaxon! That is worrying, how easily I found

that. There's a prize you won the competition. Can you imagine hearing

these words at school everybody? No homework tonight, or ever! CHEERING

No homework ever. Pupils at one secondary school in Essex may never

have homework again. After the head teacher announced they are going to

let pupils choose how much they want to do. What do the adults think?

Helen has been to find out. They need to have homework, they

need to have a timetable, this is something, these are skills they

will need for the rest of their lives. It's a long time since I was

at school but when I was there we used to get lots of homework. I

think I would have been lazy if I hadn't done homework, so I would

think homework is a good thing. How do you find homework? Boring and

quite hard. Is it? We learn quite a lot at school so I don't think we

need it. They are under pressure, they can't do everything before they

go to bed. In the day they do work really hard. To come home and have

to do all of this what they've learned in the day again at night,

it seems a little bit tyres for them, they get fed up. It's good to

do homework at home because parents can be involved. I think it's a good

interaction time. Teacher can't give them all of that attention that they

can get with their parents at home. When I was doing homework my mum

used to get involved doing it with me, it was nice, it made learning

nice for me because I was doing it with my mum. What would you say if I

showed you those papers, literacy and new Morrissey? It's an

11-year-old Satz test. Underline the subordinate clause in each sentence.

What is a subordinate clause? It's not going to happen. You're finding

become and a nominator, my love. I've forgotten how to do it. Two and

a tent. We asked the right person. How about circling the conjunction.

Yet. Ten out of ten. In the end it becomes your homework because you

have to sit with them all the time and try to make sure they are doing

it properly. They shouldn't be overloaded with homework, I think

they miss out on family life. And playing with friends. On balance,

we've been doing homework for 100 years, I don't know how long. We are

all still here, so I would keep doing it. I love doing homework with

my children, I just enjoy it. And you, can Dara. We had to do it, so

they have to do it, that's the way it works. Thank you for coming. It's

been lovely, it really has. APPLAUSE Tomorrow Barry Gibb will be talking

and singing, not to be missed. See you then. APPLAUSE