28/01/2013 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker.

Two Michaels on the grit tonight, one a cockney comedian about to

start a best-selling toe. And once responsible for this song, it is

Mickey Flanagan and Mick Fleetwood! What a night, good to see both!

Nice to have you on. First of all, congratulations, 35 years since

Rumours was released. I know! good. Did you think you would go on

for 35 years? I do not think we ever thought about it in terms of

that, but everyone in this band, people who have passed through

Fleetwood Mac, there has never been anyone I would not have imagined

playing somewhere, for nothing, you know. But happily we have done

really well and sustained something which we had no idea could possibly

last this long. So many incredible songs, and you have told one of the

stories, you will tell us later. You are a big fan, and you? He was

singing when you cavemen! I am available after the tour! The songs,

you hear them all the time. You do! I think I got it on tape, then on

final, seedy, and I'm going to download it. And the one after I

pass away will be another formula. That is at Mr Estyn point, it is

great for you, all these different format. -- that is an interesting

Seen busking on Baker Street, Mick Fleetwood, no. It is a good thing,

and the Last Wave, Digital was not so good for us musicians, because

everyone gave everything away for nothing. That was not so good, but

it is calming down, and now we get paid. When it first started, not a

good thing. With Easter few can get your hands on, there is a very

famous front cover, and we had a You cannot actually tell the

difference! I think somebody got a little larger, well, two things!

You look exactly the same. He is the pony tail attached to the

beard? The balls are there as well. How coincidental, I had no idea you

were doing this. If we can do it, so can you at home, send in your

version of the front cover and we Washoe make them a little later.

is a family show! Today we found that the preferred route for the

northern extension of the new high- speed railway. Passengers will not

be buying tickets until 2033, so why is it going to take so long?

Back in Severn another major infrastructure project was given

the go ahead, Crossrail, and Lucy has taken a trip to see how it is

progressing. This Friday the tallest building in

the European Union, the Shard, opens to the public. But I am not

going up, I am going in the opposite direction, descending 40

metres below street level. I'm going to meet Elizabeth, she weighs

tonnes and cost every penny. Elizabeth is one of eight vast

tunnel boring machines which are currently worming their way and the

London's tightly packed streets, Suez and existing Tubelines. This

is Crossrail, the new 73 miles of railway from Essex and out towards

Kent, right across central London and out to Berkshire and

Buckinghamshire. It is the largest construction project in Europe. In

all, 13 miles of new tunnels are being excavated 24 hours a day,

seven days a week. And this is what is being excavated, London earth,

from 40 metres below street level. This is millions of years old,

never been touched. So I have met Elizabeth, and this is Peter,

Crossrail's project manager at his tunnelling site. How on earth did

you get her down here in the first place? Well, Elizabeth comes in

sections. And they are all lowered down and then put together. It is

quite an undertaking. It is a significant amount of work, and as

long as you plan added, it is as safe as putting a train set

together. It is a very big Train Set! You know boys and their toys.

These machines represent the pinnacle of what we currently know,

these are factories and the ground, completely self-contained, and you

have got a big cutting disc at the front which removes the ground.

That Mark is then taken all the way to the back of the machine and away.

And the machine then a lift siege segment which forms around to line

the tunnel. Each segment is two and a half tons, so the entire Ring is

25 tons in weight, so clearly, mechanically, that is the only way

you can erect these things. How far as the tunnelling? Where are you

going to end up? We plan for about 90 metres per week, and our first

stop is the new station at Canary Wharf, which is just over 1.2

kilometres from where we are. you do not end up at Canary Wharf,

somebody has made a mistake. will not end up anywhere else. We

want to get there by the spring of this year. To accommodate this

cavernous new station at Canary Wharf, 100 million litres of water

have been removed from the dock. Now, that is the equivalent to 40

Olympic a size swimming pools. Why is it that you think we need

Crossrail? London as a city is still forecast to grow, by another

700,000 people over the next 10 years. It will enable 200 million

people per year to travel on the Underground, one million more

people to be able to travel into London in less than 45 minutes. It

creates huge regeneration opportunities as London starts to

move out from the centre. What about for the millions of people

who do not live in London thinking, oh, here we go again, another

London project? I understand the argument, but London is the

powerhouse of the UK economy. This time last year we employed 2000,

today it is 7,000, next year it is 14,000. It is the way to create

infrastructure creating growth, but at the same time it creates new

jobs for people to actually work on. We are looking to make sure we give

every encouragement to small and medium-sized business to provide

services do as, too. So if you're not in London, you could be in

Wales or Yorkshire, there are still opportunities to benefit from

Crossrail. I can tell you, as a Welshman, businesses in Wales are

so blind us, and that is true of Scotland, the North, and the

Midlands, and will continue to see that grow. Obviously, that is going

to change the place that you grow up, as an East End lad. It has

changed enough already, it is never-ending. The East End just

used to be working class people, and now you go there, and all walks

of life come to the East End. I saw a man in top hat and flip-flops the

other day. A great source of material, obviously, growing up

there. When I was growing up there, it was broken, still largely

damaged from the war, so we would play on the bomb debris and that.

At least your parents the way you were! It has got more developed,

and with every new thing, like a train station, you go, can displace

get any busier? Shoreditch is unbelievable at the moment.

were nodding, you knew the East End back in the day. Absolutely, we

played many a time around those areas, and you are right, it has

totally changed, and it is changing. If you go out in Shoreditch, any

night of the week now, it is like being in the West End, you know,

bars and restaurants. Very different to the place that you

grew up, because you and your mates, you did not have huge ambitions at

school. Ambitions?! The most ambitious kid in our class,

he wanted to drive a van. He stood out flash! At the careers officer,

I'm going to drive a van! He will never drive a van! No kid from this

school has ever! Gone on to drive a van. His school is here to produce

the people who carry the staff to You did not go on to drive a van,

but he did loads of different stuff before taking to the stage. It was

quite late. My first job was actually carrying fish to the van.

So I did literally carry fish to the van! That was my job, from the

car park to the van. So I got that far, I cracked it there, and I did

loads... When I left the fish market, I went to live in America,

then I came back and was a window- cleaner, painter and decorator. I

had a little phase at teaching, don't want to talk about it! Then I

moved on, I have made furniture for a number of years, in Shoreditch,

back in the day, everybody made furniture, clothing. Do you still

keep your hand in with furniture- making? Not really, no! No. I would

like to! I said to my wife, if I do get a hobby, it would be to go back

and make furniture, but it is not going to happen. It is never going

to happen! One of your trades is your cockney walk, and in case

you're not sure what that means, he is to explain it. Two walks, a bit

casual, yeah, nothing going on. And a slightly quicker one. I cannot

hang a bout, I have got to sign on and get back to work! I am Double

Dizzy! Well, this is the thing, speaking of work, Carrie Grant went

back to Billingsgate Market, where we saw that lovely photo, just to

see what you're all to work pars remember of you. -- Your old work

pass. Anyone know this fella? Mickey Flanagan. Yeah, his dad was

a lovely bloke. Do you remember him working here? Yeah, I remember him.

Can you do is walk? No! A flash What was he like? Like that, very

smiley. A nice little character. started work late, he was easy to

spot. His dad is funnier than him. If you are going to be stuck on a

desert island, he would keep you going. I used to drink with Micky!

Can you do is walk? Of course I can, I taught him how to do it! How are

you doing, son? One of our own, So you remember them. I remember

Jimmy really well, he lent me his flat one weekend. Hello! Apparently,

your dad is funnier. He claims he is funnier. It would be quite good

to send him out, walk out to an empty room afterwards. He is quite

funny. It is called back in the game, Yorkshire, give us an idea.

It is probably been in the whole story up to date, because I talked

a lot about the past, this is more about having success and living a

very grown-up life that I now have, I have a little boy. They bring a

lot of material, youngsters. Standing on stage, you have got the

ability to go backwards in time, he is standing with his clothes on, I

say, go and Peugeot trainers on, and he comes back in the nude. I

say to him, why are you in the nude? He said, well, I had a poo.

There we are! Is it true that he will not be working Mondays? We see

you're not keen on the beginning of the week. It has been my campaign

ever since I can remember to get the whole country not to work on a

Monday. I have not been very successful, but I will be promoting

it. It is interesting that we have been saying for years, nobody likes

Monday, so why are we going in? It doesn't make sense. It never works

for me. Doesn't four and three sound more sensible? You could get

This is tough for me to be here today. I'm really struggling. I had

to leave the pub at 10pm last night, because that's how professional I

am. Good lad. Micky's tour Back In The Game starts next month. Today,

one of the best selling albums of all time is being re-released in a

deluxe new format. One of the most familiar tracks on it has been

played in the bedroom of every aspiring bass guitarist since it

was first released in 1977. Matt Is that the world's most

recognisable bass line? It comes from the song The Chain from the

album Rumours by Fleetwood Mac and yet, The Chain was never released

as a single and that isn't even the beginning of the song.

At the time the song was recorded, the band's line up was Christine

and John, Mick, Stevie nicks and Lindsay buckham. The chain is one

of the only Fleetwood Mac songs credited to the whole band.

chain refers specifically to keeping, you know, every link of

the effort we made to stay together as a band. During recording,

Fleetwood Mac were going through an extremely troubled time and

relationships were strained. It's almost like a prayer. It really was

saying, please let this still be OK. You can't think of a better song to

describe the survival of Fleetwood Mac. The song was worked on with

Christine and then John and myself. There were bits and pieces, concept

not quite knowing what was going on. A previous song by Christine McSree,

keep me there, would provide the rhythm and structure. It was put on

the back burner. We couldn't figure out really what to do with it.

Stevie said, let me throw the meat of the story together. So Stevie

Nicks provided the majority of the lyrics. Her first version was a

very different song. With some reworking from Christine it was

almost there. # If you don't love me now... #

The song wasn't yet complete. It needed an intro. That would come

from a song Buckingham and Nicks released before they joined

Fleetwood Mac. Then suddenly it just went bingo

and it happened. Can you remember the time you first heard... John's

baseline? No, I can't. But boy was it a John McVee special. John is a

melodic player. If you care to actually listen to it, the bass on

a lot of stuff and what he's doing on the bass is such a contribution

melodically to the structure of these songs. You go, like, who was

that guy? How do you feel about the connection to motor sports. It

means that a lot of people are only familiar with the last third of

what is a terrific song? You can't help but love it. I mean, it's just

Parliament of something that happened -- part of something that

happened and you can go, accept it like a lot of things you accept

willingly. We would be shocked if we didn't play that in a concert.

That would be one of the ones that you have to do it. You don't get

tired of playing that? No, love it. Would you fancy playing it now?

Apology for the loss of subtitles for 50 seconds

my God. Yes, sure. If you fancy it. APPLAUSE

That was fantastic. Wasn't that great! We have to say

that Matt surprised you with that, didn't he? Totally. They did great.

They were good. I think they'll have to get the gig. Fantastic.

was a surprise for you but for Matt he had been practising for six

months. The Chain has become famously associated with Formula

One. Is it true that next week you're doing a Top Gear lap? I am.

Excited about that? I'm very excited about it. I've been

boasting to the lads that run the show that I'm fairly conversant

with driving fast, which was probably a really foolish thing to

say, because now, for sure, I'm going to look like an idiot. You'll

be giving it some steam. It's going to be fun. As well as The Chain, so

many incredible songs. Let's remind ourselves of a few of them.

# You can go your own way # Go your own way

# Don't stop thinking about tomorrow

# Don't stop, it'll soon be here # Players only love you when

they're playing # APPLAUSE

Classic tracks there, but the whole album was produced when there was

some strains going on amongst the band, relationships were very

difficult and very tense at that time. This is true. Unbelievable,

and now, because we're on the road April 4th, we start in America.

This package came out and it wasn't planned to go together, but it's

great that it has morphed it's way together. We're get reminded by

questions such as that that it was a personal journey that's not hard

now, but it's interesting looking back and getding into the whole

dialogue of what the hell was really going on. It was a disaster.

We were all desperately unhappy. But the one thing that never

happened, we never discussed breaking up, because what we were

doing, we were so involved in Fleetwood Mac and the music, that

the chemistry was that important to all of us, that we got through it.

That was really, looking back on it, an absolute miracle. It was pretty

grim. A lot of messages in the songs. All of them. If you had to

find new meaning for that, or when you start playing does it take you

back to those times? I'm spared that because I doesn't write the

songs. My relationship with my then-wife Jennie had broken up.

Five of us were in the same boat. I was just spared that I didn't have

to write songs and walk on stages and be personal. So we really came

up with a mutant formula, which is really what it was, when we look

back, to handle that. Because underneath it all, because all the

"rumours" of they don't really like each other. We adore each other

except often have not been able to be together. It's a very different

equation from some corporate hate affair. It's a love affair really.

Touring America. Are you touring Britain? We are, yeah. Absolutely.

Good news. Great. I think that's announced as we sit. We are coming

and working extensively all over Europe and for sure here. Will you

use separate cars and things like that? We share very nicely these

days. All right. It's 200 years today since Mr Darcey first set

hearts fluttering for readers of Pride And Prejudice. But there was

another book in Jane Austen's house that may have held the recipe for

her success.. Arthur Smith discovered.

Chawton in rural Hampshire was home to one of England's greatest

novelists, Jane Austin. I've come to look at one of her mostsprielzed

books, not a first edition of -- most prized books, not a first

edition of Pride And Prejudice but the Austin household recipe book.

This is the first book of recipes that supplied the Austin dining

table. It contains a few handy potions too. There's press pis here

for cold sous, widgeon, pickling, brewing and a remedy for if you've

been bitten by a mad dog. This is clearly a work -- the work of

someone who cared for the people she lived with. The compiler of the

book is Marge why Lloyd, photographed here, Jane regarded

her as a big sister. When Marjah came to stay with the family and

then when they moved into their permanent residence in 1809, Marjah

dn martha moved in with them. She was also an unmarried woman. They

were all clubbing together to help each other out. Unmarried women in

this period had a hard time if they weren't well off. A lot of people

think that Jane Austin was well off. But actually she came from a pretty

poor background. Two unmarried women living together

without much money in the 1800s, what can I expect for dinner? I've

come to the pump rooms in Bath. And tonight, head chef Mark is cooking

us a meal direct from the Austin family recipe book. We have a white

soup, which sounds very basic. It's chicken stock, almonds, hard boiled

egg yokes and some cream. That's it. Just all blended together. What's

the main course? It's rump steak, potatoes, salt and pepper and beef

stock, like a modern day hot pot. Pudding? A straightforward dessert.

It's boiled gooz briz and sugar and water. You have passed those

through a sieve and put them in a tart case and bake it off. What do

you think modern diners would make of this meal? I think they would be

a little bit disappointed with the lack of variety and the lack of

ingredients. I don't think it would go done too well in the resstraubts.

-- restaurant. Are you suggesting I'm not going to enjoy it? Take

yourself back to the time and I think you'll enjoy it. Jane would

normally eat her main meal at 4pm or 5pm with her mother, sister and

Martha. But it wasn't silver service. All the courses were

served at once. One course would have consisted of many different

dishes, placed around quite a large table, if you were having a dinner

party. They would be eating sweet dishes alongside the savoury.

shall follow convention and start with the starter. Here we r, the

white soup. Oh, it's quite a strong taste. It's quite meaty. Yes, a

meaty, woody quality. How do we know this is a dish that Jane would

have eaten. This is written down in the cookery book. White soup was a

popular dish at the time. It's actually mentioned in Pride And

Prejudice. Next it's Marjah's beef recipe. Could do with some brown

sauce maybe. A good age ektive is it's hearty fayer. Yes. Not exactly

sweet but sugar cost a great deal. They did have sugar but it was very

expensive. That was something that the rich had. Gooseberry tart, tart

and nice. Jane Austen died in 1817 aged just

41. She is one of the great writers of English literature and she

provided a vibrant portrait of the society she lived in. But we know

relatively little about her, though today, I have learned she did enjoy

a hearty male. -- meal.

An exhibition called The Story of Pride and Prejudice has opened at

Jane's home at Chawton in Hampshire. Earlier we asked you to recreate

the Rumours album cover. There's the rudge nal and the first is this.

Very good alley and many. Here's the second one. This is Chris and

gentlemen neen. That's a good -- Janine. And your

original balls are here. Here they are. I'm going to hold