28/04/2014 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

Now, do you remember this? # shine a light to light the way...

It is of course, Katrina And The Waves, the last British winners of

Eurovision back in 1997. Tonight we will find at the promising link

between Katrina and our entry this time, the magnificent Molly who

takes on Eurovision in 12 days' time. First, we meet the woman

behind some of our best TV in recent years such as Last Tango In Halifax,

Scott And Bailey and Unforgiven. And now a creepy thriller. Featuring a

gentleman in a league of his own when it comes to creepy characters.

Please welcome Sally Wainwright and Steve Pemberton! Very nice to see

you both. The big news over the weekend is Dad's Army being made

into a movie. Did you grow up with Dad's Army? I grew up watching it on

a Saturday night after grandstand. Will you be going for a part? We

understand to be Jones will be playing Captain Mainwaring and

Sergeant Wilson will be played by Bill naive -- Toby Jones. I would

like to have a crack at private Godfrey with his sisters. He was

slightly camp and I loved his know we have. Do you think he could do

doddery? I think he could do all of them. In you say you remember

watching it on a Friday night. I remember it being on a Friday but my

memory is not that good! I used to start watching TV at 6:30pm on a

Friday night and go on till midnight. I'm sure that is part

of... Getting your ideas. We will talk about Happy Valley, a new drama

soon. But first of all this afternoon the UK's biggest ever

urgency drill has come to an end testing fire, police and ambulance

crews dealing with a plane crash in the city centre. The One Show was on

in the secret -- The One Show was in on the secret. Just remember, this

is a drill. We are getting reports that a plane

has crashed into the Docklands area of London. This looks terrifyingly

real, but this is in fact an exercise. It has been laid on by the

London Fire Brigade. It is the biggest of its kind. The idea is to

test the emergency services for a full-scale catastrophe. This

Hollywood style disaster set to the Fire Brigade for weeks to build and

involved a huge amount of planning. 400 tonnes of rubble, hundreds of

actors and an actual plane, 28 tonne Boeing 787. The idea is that a plane

has crashed into this building. It has left this trail of destruction,

there are casualties everywhere. The challenge for the emergency services

is how they prioritise their response to this incredibly complex

scenario. 100 metres, over. At the back of the building and in control

of the exercise is the London Fire Brigade Commander. What is the scale

of this? You are looking at fire and rescue personnel, just over 200. In

terms of ambulance, you are looking at hundred 50 police personnel.

Fire, ambulance and police services normally train separately but in a

major incident like the 7/7 bombings, they have to work

together. Today's exercise tests their ability to do just that under

pressure. None of the emergency services taking part knew what to

expect in advance. At the moment the guys are trying to assess what is

going on, counting the casualties and working out what has happened.

Probably 12 casualties, set up your triage over here. I will redirect

them over there. These are huge resources you are deploying, how'd

justify that cost? The public would expect us to be prepared dealing

with a major incident. There is no way to test it without having the

resources here. You either play it for real or you do not. The

casualties in the water. You can see the tail section of the aircraft

under the bridge. The tail section of the plane has broken off in the

dock and there are passengers waiting to be picked up. There is

mistaken information and some of the guys were in the water for over an

hour. Would that be realistic? Normally, we hope not. They're

always improvements to be made. They have been told they are in the

docks, they have taken their best guess and here we have a very large

expanse of water across a number of docs. They have gone to a location

where they think they can access the water but at that point their

judgement was not the right place for access so they have had to be

deployed will stop as the water rescue unfolds, the survivors are

being treated. This is the so-called triage area. This is where the

casualties are brought, they are assessed and they will bring

treatment here -- they will begin treatment here. Are you allergic to

penicillin? I am going to give you something for the pain. The London

Ambulance Service takes the lead in this area. How does this compare to

a real-life situation? They are made up and they are screaming and making

the type of noises that people involved in this sort of incident

would do. It looks very realistic but everybody knows it is pretend.

Do you learn from this type of thing? The paramedics are using this

training to respond to entry the injuries they see as real as you can

make a training scenario. The first phase of this exercise is drawing to

a close. The training will continue for another two days. What have they

learned so far? We will see that people have not always got things

right so we will start to pick up on that. We have set out to give our

crew is something complex, challenging and realistic to deal

with and to learn lessons out of that. The next challenge is to

tunnel into the building. What the team do not know is what is waiting

for them inside. When they have tunnelled through the hundreds of

tonnes of rubble, this is what they are going to find, the fuselage will

be packed full of casualties. The team will be working 24 hours a day

to sort this lot out. A huge production. It was like a

film set. It was like a Hollywood film set. All the casualties were

made up with very vivid make up. There were amputees there who were

made up of casualties. It was a shocking environment to be in. You

were there on Saturday morning? It started on Saturday morning and the

scenario has been unfolding ever since. There have been guys on the

scene 24 hours a day. It is a really huge scenario. Maybe not as big an

operation as this but how often do the emergency services get together

to do a drill of this type? Once or twice a year they tried to do and

into agency scenario. What is unusual about this is the scale and

the attention to detail. The guys phoned up and persuaded someone to

lend them a 737 fuselage. This is the biggest one that the London Fire

Service have ever put on. This is a big one but they do it fairly

regularly. The important thing is they know how to work together to

operate in the very unlikely event that we see the disaster scenario

like that playing out in Britain. Everyone involved will be very tired

but what kind of lessons will be learned from this and what kind of

analysis will go into it? They're all sorts of levels. There is the

individual response to the hundreds people involved, whether they worked

effectively, there are decisions being made by people coming into the

scene. Did they assess it right? Did they call in the right amount of

support? And then the strategic overview, how did the Fire Service

work with the ambulance service? What about the contribution of the

police? All sorts of levels than they hope to pull it together and

learn from it and obviously, far better to learn on a scenario like

this then to have to learn from the events of a rail accident. The

scenario they are playing at, the idea that a plane has crashed is

incredibly rare. Planes very rarely crash and more rarely crash into

cities. The scenario is based loosely on something that happened

in Amsterdam in 1992 when a cargo plane crashed into a couple of

blocks of flats. Over 40 people died in that incident. But this kind of

incident does not happen often and people do not need to worry about

but you could apply this to another kind of incident so it is an

important learning experience. Thank you, Justin. In a moment, we will be

talking to Sally and Steve about the band 's new BBC thriller Happy

Valley. -- the brand-new BBC thriller. But

first a character who could have stepped off a page of Sally's

scripts. It is a tobacco baron -- a vicar who turned tobacco baron.

This village is in Essex. Just after World War II it was at the centre of

a craze for a crop which is very controversial. That plant was

tobacco. In post-war Britain, tobacco was a much sought-after

commodity. Most adults were smokers. So in 1948 when government

restrictions on tobacco imports from America created a cigarette

shortage, people were prepared to endure long queues to get hold of

their daily fix. But shortages like this meant opportunities for others

and not just on the black market. So when the tower up there needed some

repairs, the vicar here came up with a very enterprising plan. His proper

name was the Reverend Hugh Cuthbertson but the press dubbed him

the wacky pass and because his scheme involved growing his own

tobacco and dishing out advice to people who wanted to join his

smoking club. The vicar grows his own tobacco in the vicarage garden.

His daughter Cecily still lives there. He was a very interesting

person. He was very musical, very intelligent. There is a photograph

here of him in an aircraft? He was very keen on flying and had one of

the first aviation licenses. But he soon turned to a different kind of

heavenly pursuit and became a vicar. He saw an advert from the Bishop of

the Falkland Islands and thought, that will be nice, perhaps it will

be a nice break to go to Scotland! Scotland! The post was actually in

Chile and he remained there for five years before returning to Britain.

In 1940, he became a vicar in Essex and it is here that he began his

unusual horticultural career, growing tobacco in this garden. He

learned how to grow it and he put a piece in the local deanery magazine

that if Sandy wanted to send five shillings then he would tell them

what he knew about tobacco growing. One of the London newspapers picked

it up and one morning he came downstairs to 500 letters. What was

people's reactions to your dad doing this, a Church of England vicar?

Yellow macro I think people were just desperate for a smoke! For a

while there was a mini boom into back growing. He actually promoted

it on health. He believed that by smoking home-grown tobacco he would

be less likely to suffer from cancer but he was a vicar and not a

scientist. Thousands of people turned to him to learn how to grow

and cured tobacco for smoking so he set up a tobacco Co-operative Group

taking in vast amounts of tobacco and curing it for his members. With

a grudging acceptance from customs, for a spell, but as health concerns

mounted, the number of members dwindled steadily and it was finally

wound up last year. He was described as the Baccy Parson. Would he like

that? He didn't like the Baccy Parson label but I don't think

anybody will think of him as anything else. When he started as

enterprise he didn't have all the facts at hand but he did so with

exactly the right intentions, to save his beloved church.

Something very League of Gentlemen about that. Absolutely, I have got a

few ideas there. It's like a British version of Breaking Bad. You sell it

give you a few little ideas. Every night you would get an idea from the

one show. It's lovely to put a face to the main because we have so many

actors and actresses on the sofa and they talk about you, the person

behind the dramas, Suranne Jones from Scott Bailey and Anne Reid

from Last Tango In Halifax, but it's an actual story based on your mum's

situation? My dad died in 2001 and my mum came down to live in Oxford

and we had a granny flat so she moved in. My sister came to stay

with us. She put her name on friends reunited and she found two people

from their class were still alive. And one of them was this man called

Alex Walker, and they got in touch. It turned out he lived in

Northampton which isn't too far away so they agreed to meet up for a cup

of tea. And he came to visit and they genuinely fell in love with

each other. And now the granny annexe is your office? Yes, they got

married and went to live in putting to. Steve, you're the latest to get

the benefits of a Sally Wainwright script. But you had to audition for

the role, didn't you? I found that quite surprising, actually. I would

have assumed you could say, that the person you want but what do have to

do for the audition? Normally, with an audition, you get one scene.

This, you got the whole six episodes so I was able to read it right the

way through from beginning to end, and found it absolutely compelling

and was desperate to do it. I made sure I was well prepared. I had

worked with the director before but I'd never worked with Sally before.

Give us a brief synopsis of your character. It's set in the Calder

Valley in Yorkshire and I'm accountant who wants to centred

children to about a school so it asks his boss for a pay rise and

when he gets turned down, he hatches a kidnap plot and he's completely

out of his depth. A normal guy trying to do the best by his family

and get involved with some bad criminals and the parallel to that,

Sarah Lancashire is a policewoman investigating a crime from her own

past as well so that lots going on. This is Kevin planning that

abduction. He has a daughter. He could afford

to lose half ?1 million easily. It would take about one week to let him

get that kind of money together in cash without arousing suspicion at

the bank. I don't know where you would keep her. There is an element

I haven't thought through yet. You're talking about kidnapping her?

She's just finished college, she hasn't got a job. No one would miss

her. Just for a few days. APPLAUSE

It's very dark. Very, very dark indeed. Where did

the idea come from? I had lots of bits of inspiration that started the

whole thing off. Basically, the BBC asks me what I want to do next and I

think I want to write a police show after the success of Scott Bailey.

I didn't want to write Scott Bailey again but do something else.

I thought an obvious way to go was to have the main character as a

uniformed police officer, rather than detectives. And then, I spent a

lot of time with detectives, Bob and Carol, my advisers. I threw some

ideas around with them and built it up based on their knowledge and

expertise. It's a very real, then. Were you surprised they asked for a

police drama because there seems to be an awful lot on the television of

them? Hinterland started last night and also vary last night for them we

seem to be bombarded. There's a huge amount on telly but that's because

people like it. This is about the characters. Sarah's character is a

policewoman but everybody else isn't. It's about ground level

grassroots policing. Not detectives. I think Sarah's character it is

frustrated that she can't get the information she needs to make the

arrests. It's really unusual in that she becomes involved in this crime

that is not officially investigating. She starts perceiving

what happened. It's not a procedural cop drama in that sense. She just

happens to be a police officer involved in something she's not

investigating. There was a lot going on. We will see it all very soon.

Happy Valley begins on BBC One tomorrow night at 9pm. We've

reported on the rise in the use of anti-depressants over recent years

which is both costly and controversial. Now in a new book out

this month, poet and author Andrew Fusek Peters puts the case for a

very different sort of remedy. My skin is beaten down with the water.

Hammered with temperature. Locked in a battle of willpower.

Whilst swimming has always been part of my life, I grew up in London, and

I always had the sense of wanting to escape the boundaries. And I

remember swimming across the Thames when I was quite young and reaching

the far bank and just feeling there was another country out there. Those

lost echoes of childhood, of everything glittering and glistening

and gold and magic, it was extraordinary.

I came out of a very serious depression a couple of years ago.

The worst period was about six or seven months during which I had two

months in a psychiatric unit and four months at home when I was just

not functioning and they just wanted to die every day. My father was

suffering from pretty much undiagnosed depression I think and

didn't get the support he needed and he killed himself. I think water is

about clarity. I think it gives clearness. I think it is refreshing.

It's very much the opposite of that fog of depression, that darkness,

that despair, that fear of death. All of those things become illusions

when you are in the water. As you go in water, there is a shock. There is

the body's visceral response, something suffuses your body. You

could call it adrenaline but the spirit wakes up. When I swim in wild

water I feel like I belong to the world, I have a place in the world.

I feel like I fit in. The person, Andrew Fusek Peters, had started to

wake up and come back to life again. I remember that first swim

and I thought, it is good, I'm allowed to feel this good, I felt so

bad for so long, I thought that was normal for the rest of my life. It's

not as though I haven't done this before. It merely feels like the

first time every time. I weighed fast up to my waist, and then dip

down. I'm immersed, contained in this cold called from like the first

time every time. I'm in the river and the river is in the and the day

is blessed. Everything is natural. It's natural that you grow old and

die but that you live, there spring, summer, autumn, water flows, that's

natural, and you are of that process. You walk away just feeling

very grateful for all that life has to offer. It's an extraordinary

feeling. It makes you want to jump in. I

don't even like water. He told that beautifully, didn't he? However

enticing Andrew made that time, wild swimming can be dangerous. One piece

of advice being you always know how you would get out before you get in.

For more advice and information head to the One Show website. Now, it's

the 59th Eurovision Song Contest in Copenhagen in just 12 days' time.

And British entry Molly is raring to go. There she is. There's some tough

competition. Here are the frontrunners. Armenia.

# You'll never know... Spain. # We are dancing in the rain... And

Austria. # Ideas like a Phoenix... Goodness me. We don't want them, do

we? AUDIENCE BOOS

. Let's put on Molly's song. # Flying like diamonds. # Standing

beside you. # I have a feeling I will never walk alone # We are

children of the universe # Don't you know? # Dancing at the edge of time

# APPLAUSE Catchy.

Congratulations to being the UK entry. How did this happen? It was a

surprise for everyone including me, actually. I was uploading my music

to the BBC called BBC introducing. I was getting some support from them

and then I got a cold e-mail, I guess, to say do you fancy giving

this a go? And then he wrote the song for it? Every year began behind

the act, of course. Bonnie Tyler, Engelbert Humperdinck. They didn't

do very well. Do you think you have got an advantage because you are

relatively unknown? I don't know, really. I think certainly people are

quite curious because of something quite difficult and different to

what has been done before, and the reason I find it appealing to begin

with was the fact that they wanted to go with someone who wasn't a

household name, who just sounded more cool and contemporary. I am

saying to them, even if you don't go with me, I hope you succeed because

it's a good platform for someone. You put a lot of thought into the

staging of it because visually it's very important. Very quickly, what

can expect? I can't give it away, I'm afraid, it's top secret. You

have limitations we can only have six people on stage. No pre-recorded

vocals. We want to make sure that music is represented properly. Just

don't grow a beard. I don't know. Steve is a fan. There's lots of

people who have an idea of how it should sound. The Internet are so

many covers of Children Of The Universe. Some bad and some good. We

have picked a few and we would like you to choose your favourite. This

is the first ever Your Own Version Song Contest! So the entries are

Jason Barker with his acoustic version of Children of the Universe.

The One-Man Acapella version by Will Drake. And finally, the Spanish

version by Nicxon Jaspe. APPLAUSE

I feel I can aid to see them all again.

Number two. Congratulations. That is the a cappella version. Very good. I

do big fans of Eurovision? Yes. It's always good, isn't it? Molly, best

of luck. And you can watch the first Eurovision semifinal on Tuesday

sixth May 2014 and the second semifinal on Thursday eighth May,

both on BBC Three. We will be back tomorrow night with Matt LeBlanc. I